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drobbah
01-31-2020, 07:26 PM
Levantines/Egyptians
Target: Levant_JOR_EBA
Distance: 3.6552% / 0.03655228
45.6 Levant_Natufian
33.0 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
20.6 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
0.8 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C

Target: EGY_Late_Period
Distance: 2.6972% / 0.02697196
45.6 Levant_Natufian
20.2 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
14.0 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C
9.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
4.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
4.2 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
1.6 Dinka
0.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Palestinian
Distance: 1.6137% / 0.01613667
28.4 Levant_Natufian
23.6 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
17.4 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
8.4 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
6.4 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_BA
5.8 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
4.4 Anatolia_IA
3.0 Dinka
1.4 Yoruba
1.2 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res

Target: Egyptian
Distance: 1.4789% / 0.01478854
31.2 Levant_Natufian
17.2 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
14.0 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
9.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
7.8 Dinka
7.4 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
6.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
4.0 Yoruba
2.8 MAR_Taforalt




Arabians

Target: Yemenite_Mahra
Distance: 4.7053% / 0.04705256
68.2 Levant_Natufian
31.8 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C

Target: Yemenite_Amran
Distance: 3.0971% / 0.03097061
53.2 Levant_Natufian
37.4 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
6.2 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
2.8 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res
0.4 Yoruba

Target: Saudi
Distance: 5.0610% / 0.05060999
63.4 Levant_Natufian
35.0 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
1.6 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res

Target: Yemenite_Al_Jawf
Distance: 4.6510% / 0.04650983
62.0 Levant_Natufian
26.2 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
8.6 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C
2.8 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
0.4 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res



Semitic speakers of the Horn
Target: Ethiopian_Amhara
Distance: 4.0989% / 0.04098920
49.8 Levant_Natufian
35.2 Dinka
8.2 ETH_4500BP
6.8 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C

Target: Eritrean
Distance: 4.0310% / 0.04030978
52.0 Levant_Natufian
35.8 Dinka
8.4 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
3.8 ETH_4500BP


Why is it EBA Jordan sample has significant Anatolian but the Semitic speakers of both Arabia and Northern Ethiopia/Eritrea either completely lack it or carry it under 10%?

Dorkymon
01-31-2020, 08:05 PM
Because they are different people.

Bealfire
01-31-2020, 08:10 PM
They are sure different populations sparsed by space and time that's why. From a common Levant BA source, they've diverged.

drobbah
01-31-2020, 10:04 PM
They are sure different populations sparsed by space and time that's why. From a common Levant BA source, they've diverged.

That Levantine source is like 20% Anatolian while some groups in Arabia either have it in very low percentage or don't carry it all like the Mahra.What has caused the Arabs to lose their Anatolian admixture? Is it possible there was indigenous Natufian rich populations that lived in Arabia or is it possible the ancestors of these Arabians prior to migrating into the Peninsula never carried Anatolian ancestry?

Ricardo Canedo
02-17-2020, 03:44 PM
I modeled Bedouins in Global25 as 70% Natufian, 10% Anatolian farmer and 20% Iranian farmer. The Anatolian farmer percentage is still much lower than that of Levantine Arabs but higher than in your model. I believe that Arabia was settled early by Levantines and received much less Anatolian, Iranian and Caucasian influence.

drobbah
03-29-2020, 03:36 AM
I modeled Bedouins in Global25 as 70% Natufian, 10% Anatolian farmer and 20% Iranian farmer. The Anatolian farmer percentage is still much lower than that of Levantine Arabs but higher than in your model. I believe that Arabia was settled early by Levantines and received much less Anatolian, Iranian and Caucasian influence.
Perhaps the Arabian Peninsula was inhabited by pure Natufian-like people.

Semitic ancestors of the Arabians
Target: Levant_JOR_EBA
Distance: 4.6655% / 0.04665549
48.4 Levant_Natufian
33.4 Anatolia_Barcin_C
11.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
6.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N

Highly Natufian Arabians
Target: Yemenite_Mahra
Distance: 5.1774% / 0.05177411
71.6 Levant_Natufian
15.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
13.0 Anatolia_Barcin_C

Target: BedouinB
Distance: 5.1707% / 0.05170731
69.0 Levant_Natufian
16.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
14.4 Anatolia_Barcin_C

DNADiver
05-12-2020, 11:55 PM
hello,

what is the difference between Arabian and middle eastern?

Arabic are Semitic.