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02-16-2020, 10:33 PM
A friend of mine for whom I have already posted a few times. This time I've decided to post everything that he gets from Morley predictor because it mentions some "quirks" with his data .
Raw data from Myheritage.
Does it look normal provided the limitations of the tool and the data ?


experimental tree

(most likely) I1a1b
I1-L22

I1
I1-L759 (I1-CTS10140, I1-CTS10338)

A1
A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)

I2a2a
I2-CTS10125 (I2-CTS429, I2-CTS5286)

J2a1i
J2-L88 (J2-L198)

ISOGG tree

(most likely) I1a1b
I1-L22

I1
I1-L64 (I1-L75, I1-L80)

S1c
S-P83

A1
A-L985 (A-L986, A-L989)

O1a1
O-M307






Y chromosome statistics:
Y: 3495 markers (87 no-calls)
0% of calls for this chromosome are heterozygous

Other chromosome statistics:
1: 45474 markers (168 no-calls)
2: 46458 markers (204 no-calls)
3: 42459 markers (197 no-calls)
4: 39531 markers (263 no-calls)
5: 37674 markers (209 no-calls)
6: 43616 markers (249 no-calls)
7: 34228 markers (201 no-calls)
8: 31914 markers (157 no-calls)
9: 21832 markers (91 no-calls)
10: 30755 markers (139 no-calls)
11: 30252 markers (147 no-calls)
12: 26460 markers (112 no-calls)
13: 19151 markers (109 no-calls)
14: 17039 markers (64 no-calls)
15: 16628 markers (54 no-calls)
16: 17922 markers (57 no-calls)
17: 16330 markers (60 no-calls)
18: 15863 markers (62 no-calls)
19: 12924 markers (49 no-calls)
20: 13508 markers (42 no-calls)
21: 7742 markers (33 no-calls)
22: 8397 markers (20 no-calls)
X: 29694 markers (1141 no-calls)

Your data has:
7 Y-DNA position(s) with heterozygous calls. This may be a quirk of your autosomal DNA product. Further information is needed before these positions can be handled.
80 Y-DNA position(s) lacking mutations recognised by the genetic genealogy community. These Y-DNA positions may not be very useful.
1253 unrecognised position(s). Are you using data from a source other than AncestryDNA, 23andMe or MyHeritage?
463 recognised mutation(s) with positive calls.
1292 recognised mutation(s) with negative calls.
97 recognised mutation(s) with no-calls.


Extracted SNP calls


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Ayetooey
02-17-2020, 02:41 AM
Looks normal to me, everyone gets that no call stuff. He's almost defo I1, if not I1, possibly I2. Would suggest testing further with FTDNA if he's curious.

spruithean
02-17-2020, 03:33 AM
If he is curious he could test with FTDNA, STRs can reliably predict I1, but SNP testing is better suited to confirming the L22 position.

lacreme
02-17-2020, 08:47 AM
Looks normal to me, everyone gets that no call stuff. He's almost defo I1, if not I1, possibly I2. Would suggest testing further with FTDNA if he's curious.

Thanks!
In case of the latter, is any subclade of I2 a possibility or will he fall under I2a2a as the tool shows ?



If he is curious he could test with FTDNA, STRs can reliably predict I1, but SNP testing is better suited to confirming the L22 position.

Should he start by purchasing Y-37 or Y-111 ? And after that what should he do next ?

lgmayka
02-17-2020, 03:34 PM
Should he start by purchasing Y-37 or Y-111 ? And after that what should he do next ?
An alternative would be Yseq's Top-Level Orientation Panel (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=56898), which determines a man's most specific subclade via successive testing of haplotree branches.

spruithean
02-17-2020, 10:36 PM
Thanks!
In case of the latter, is any subclade of I2 a possibility or will he fall under I2a2a as the tool shows ?




Should he start by purchasing Y-37 or Y-111 ? And after that what should he do next ?

Purchasing Y37 or Y111 will only add more STRs, while this could be useful (depending on the end goal), it still isn't a SNP test. You could reasonably predict Haplogroup I1 based on the values at DYS459 (8-9) and DYS455 (8), but of course coincidental mutations can lead to haplotypes not belonging to I1 to possess the same pattern at these sites. SNP testing is a better way to confirm a haplogroup IMO.