View Full Version : E-Z5009 (E-M183): From the the Maghreb to Europe and the New World

04-06-2020, 08:48 AM
I just got my results from the Yseq panel that I ordered: E-Z5009*. It's a bit disappointing, to be honest, because I was hoping to go a bit further downstream. The only reference to Z-5009 in general that I could find on these forums is this:

E-Z5009 (tmrca 1900 ybp) is highly correlated with Spanish settlers in the New World, and it's basal branches are in the Maghreb. With a tmrca of 1900, it points to a clear Maghrebi founder line in Iberia that became somewhat successful in the New World.
(The semitic origin of Al Andalus (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?14989-The-Semitic-Origin-of-Al-Andalus))

Regarding the Z-5009* paragroup in particular, Yfull tree (https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z5009/) shows all the countries in Maghreb plus Mauritania, Belgium and England. Meanwhile FTDNA public haplotree has a bunch of new sub-branches for which Yseq doesn't test plus the following branch participants:

Morocco - 13 participants

Algeria - 6 participants

Spain - 4 participants

France - 4 participants

Tunisia - 3 participants

Saudi Arabia - 3 participants

Egypt - 2 participants

Libya - 2 participants

Lebanon - 2 participants

Mauritania - 2 participants

Puerto Rico - 1 participant

Scotland - 1 participant

United States - 1 participant

Switzerland - 1 participant

Colombia - 1 participant

Any other Z-5009 around here?

04-06-2020, 04:17 PM
Z5009 is widespread in Morocco and Algeria:


Join this facebook group if you have questions about your haplogroup because many guys there are z5009:


05-23-2020, 08:24 PM
Does anyone know how to interpret y-str results within this clade? I have noticed there almost no DYS458=19 in Spain, but there seem to be plenty from Algeria to the east.

Iberia: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/IberianDNA?iframe=yresults

Libya: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Libya?iframe=yresults

05-24-2020, 09:29 PM
The first rule of Fight Club is: order BigY700. The second rule of Fight Club is: order bam-file. Third rule of Fight Club: upload your bam to Yfull.com
(Tyler Durden. Fight Club)

10-13-2020, 11:09 PM
great post
if was people Maghreb countries did more tests Y-big and upload in Y-full will be see most sample from Maghreb countries

01-17-2021, 09:23 PM
I'm E-Z5009

E-Z5009 > E-FT31300

My origins is from South West Morocco (Chichaoua region)