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ph2ter
04-11-2020, 05:49 PM
https://i.imgur.com/OkWwM1i.png

https://i.imgur.com/OaV1L68.png

https://i.imgur.com/sq0BfUJ.png

Andour
04-12-2020, 12:24 PM
Thanks ever so much, Ph2ter. I knew you wouldn't let me down on this. A precious map, clear, informative, and long-awaited. Now duly downloaded and stored. :beerchug:

dosas
04-12-2020, 01:06 PM
Very nice map.

Do you know what subclade is the Mycenaean Z2103? Has it been uploaded as a BAM somewhere?

ph2ter
04-12-2020, 04:21 PM
Very nice map.

Do you know what subclade is the Mycenaean Z2103? Has it been uploaded as a BAM somewhere?
I don't know anything about the samples. I've only put on the map the data which is stored on the indo-european.eu page.

ph2ter
04-13-2020, 10:24 AM
Very nice map.

Do you know what subclade is the Mycenaean Z2103? Has it been uploaded as a BAM somewhere?
In the source data it says:

MycenaeanElite1 Reference 37.730792 22.756382 37.731 22.7 M R1bZ2103 R1b-Z2103 R-Z2103 R-Z2103 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/R;name=R-Z2103 R-Z2103 https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2103/ R1b1a1b1b R1b R1bZ2103 (Ryukendo) ReichLab2019?(2nd hand report) 1500 BC -1400 -1600 -1200 1600 BC 1200 BC 1749 BC 1251 BC 1250 1201 1299 Mycenaean Mycenaean_Elite Mycenae? Greece

Generalissimo
04-13-2020, 10:31 AM
In the source data it says:

MycenaeanElite1 Reference 37.730792 22.756382 37.731 22.7 M R1bZ2103 R1b-Z2103 R-Z2103 R-Z2103 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/R;name=R-Z2103 R-Z2103 https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2103/ R1b1a1b1b R1b R1bZ2103 (Ryukendo) ReichLab2019?(2nd hand report) 1500 BC -1400 -1600 -1200 1600 BC 1200 BC 1749 BC 1251 BC 1250 1201 1299 Mycenaean Mycenaean_Elite Mycenae? Greece

It's actually U106 as far as I know. There might also be a P312 in a Minoan sample.

But I wouldn't rely on these results until they've been released, and I certainly wouldn't rely on anything from Carlos Quiles' blog.

Dewsloth
04-13-2020, 02:31 PM
Love the maps ... especially the non-isogg ones :lol:


Some day the Viking study will be published (and data released) and we can try to tell more about the Viking DF19 found on the Swedish island.

Farroukh
05-06-2020, 10:21 AM
Ekaterina Yatsishina's presentation (22:49) (in Russian) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOOVE32-nXI) about DNA analysis of Egyptian mummies from the Pushkin Museum (https://pushkinmuseum.art/exposition_collection/collections/archeology/index.php?lang=en&combi_coll_struct=1#objects).

One of them was the bearer of R1b1a1b (equal to R1b-V1636 (https://yfull.com/tree/R-V1636/) or R1b-FT40455 (https://yfull.com/tree/R-FT40455/))

But who was him? The museum exhibits the sarcophagi of Shepsi-pu-Min, Mahu, Khor-Aha and many others...

We can delete Khor-Aha from this list cause the mummy came out as a female (https://www.academia.edu/37446247/Interdisciplinary_Study_of_Egyptian_Mummies_from_t he_Pushkin_State_Museum_of_Fine_Arts_Collection_at _the_National_Research_Centre_Kurchatov_Institute_ ).

UPD: R1b1a1b was eq. to R1b-V1636 on ISOGG-2017 tree (https://isogg.org/tree/2017/ISOGG_HapgrpR17.html). Today it is R1b-M269 level (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JvXoBCBBk42DIF7BYPaLsQ1jojN3etgDR8pByaTRnq4/edit#gid=1078904281)