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Slimm623
04-25-2020, 10:28 PM
I'm definitely I2a1b2a1a, which I know is now S17250. I have reason to believe I'm I2a1b2a1a1a and want to know more about it. I have seen trees and diagrams online that show subclades with their new labelling, but I can't find any way to match the old to the new.

If there is no direct way to check these things, does anyone happen to know what current subclade I'm looking for?

ph2ter
04-27-2020, 10:42 PM
I'm definitely I2a1b2a1a, which I know is now S17250. I have reason to believe I'm I2a1b2a1a1a and want to know more about it. I have seen trees and diagrams online that show subclades with their new labelling, but I can't find any way to match the old to the new.

If there is no direct way to check these things, does anyone happen to know what current subclade I'm looking for?

I2a1b2a1a1a = S17250
I2a1b2a1a = CTS10228

This is old version from 2018
https://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpI.html

The new version:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH2aUkqHUV8coChJOCxGeXMg6QdyRTPthWOpW8IyCJE/edit#gid=198726360

Slimm623
04-28-2020, 03:26 PM
I2a1b2a1a1a = S17250
I2a1b2a1a = CTS10228

This is old version from 2018
https://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpI.html

The new version:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH2aUkqHUV8coChJOCxGeXMg6QdyRTPthWOpW8IyCJE/edit#gid=198726360

Thank you very much. It's weird how the old version uses a more specific classification.

the new ISOGG says I2a1b2a1a1 = Y52464, whereas

the old ISOGG says I2a1b2a1a1a = S17250/YP204

I will, of course, use the latest tree, but it seems almost as if they realized that I2a1b2a1a1a should never have existed in the first place.

ph2ter
04-28-2020, 06:03 PM
Thank you very much. It's weird how the old version uses a more specific classification.

the new ISOGG says I2a1b2a1a1 = Y52464, whereas

the old ISOGG says I2a1b2a1a1a = S17250/YP204

I will, of course, use the latest tree, but it seems almost as if they realized that I2a1b2a1a1a should never have existed in the first place.
It doesn't go that way.
The nomenclature changed because the new upstream branches were discovered.

ArmandoR1b
05-03-2020, 03:56 AM
I2a1b2a1a1a = S17250
I2a1b2a1a = CTS10228

This is old version from 2018
https://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpI.html

The new version:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH2aUkqHUV8coChJOCxGeXMg6QdyRTPthWOpW8IyCJE/edit#gid=198726360

S17250/YP204 is now showing up as I2a1a2b1a1a1. That shows how silly it is to use the longhand name. It's been at least 6 years since FTDNA moved away from longhand names and 2 years since 23andme moved away from longhand names and here we are still using longhand names all because of WeGene. Some companies just refuse to modernize.