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Shadogowah
06-04-2020, 07:27 PM
Tengo curiosidad por confirmar si todos compartimos más o menos las mismas. Abro hilo con las mías.

A 6 cM:

- 1 segmento de F999916 LBK, Stuttgart 7ky.

A 5 cM:

- 2 segmentos de F999916 LBK, Stuttgart 7ky
- 1 segmento de F999933 BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky

A 4 cM:

- 4 segmentos de F999916 LBK, Stuttgart 7ky
- 4 segmentos de F999933 BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky
- 1 segmento de F999918 Loschbour, Luxembourg, 8ky
- 1 segmento de F999937 NE1, Hungary, 7.2ky

JJJ
06-04-2020, 09:33 PM
Solo veo los ky que son los mismos, se encuentra en GEDmatch Archaic Matches?

Shadogowah
06-04-2020, 10:07 PM
Solo veo los ky que son los mismos, se encuentra en GEDmatch Archaic Matches?

Si. En archaic matches.

Shadogowah
06-19-2020, 12:15 PM
¿Nadie quiere poner las suyas?

¿Podéis decirme al menos si tenéis algo parecido?

Mi hipotésis inicial es que todo el mundo puntúe más o menos igual.

mokordo
06-20-2020, 01:26 PM
¿Nadie quiere poner las suyas?

¿Podéis decirme al menos si tenéis algo parecido?

Mi hipotésis inicial es que todo el mundo puntúe más o menos igual.

Me suena mirarlo en su día y creo que coincidíamos en las muestras, pero yo con menos centiMorgans que tú. No tenía fragmentos de más de 5 cM con ninguna.

Shadogowah
06-20-2020, 04:28 PM
Me suena mirarlo en su día y creo que coincidíamos en las muestras, pero yo con menos centiMorgans que tú. No tenía fragmentos de más de 5 cM con ninguna.

Supongo que no es nada fiable pero me gustaría saber si son los mismos segmentos y no simplemente casualidades aleatorias. Al fin y al cabo hace diez mil años no había tanta gente pululando por Europa.

hantrolugharsts
06-02-2021, 01:48 PM
Comparing Kit hantro FTDNA [Oxford (FTDNA)] and Kit F999916 (LBK Stuttgart 7ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 4.0 cM

Largest segment = 4.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 8.6cM (0.239 Pct)

2 shared segments found for this comparison.

hantro`s Father 23andMe

Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 4.0 cM

Largest segment = 5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 5cM (0.138 Pct)

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

170559 SNPs used for this comparison.

hantro´s Father FTDNA

No Share

mokordo
06-04-2021, 01:03 PM
Compre

Sobre ese individuo(individua en este caso), es básicamente una granjera neolítica, con un 80% EEF, y supongo que como nosotros tenemos más de un 50% de EEF, nos suele salir cercano(aparte de compartir pequeños trozos de nuestro genoma).


Remains discovered in Stuttgart, Germany were identified as having been from a female, likely between 22–30 years old, who was a member of a Neolithic farming community. Evidence from excavations of this site shows inhabitants from a number of different cultures throughout the ancient past, and it is not specific to only Neolithic farming communities. Artifacts, such as pottery dating to around 5,500–4,800 BCE, and evidence of ritualized burial practices suggest that at least one of the remains and inhabitants was likely from the Linearbandkeramik (LBK) culture. The LBK culture has been identified as one of the first farming cultures in Europe, and they are known for their distinctive pottery and burial practices.

Creo que esta es la muestra en el K15:

LBK_Stuttgart,4.32,16.09,0.01,0.01,47.18,0.01,27.4 0,5.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01

En el k13 hay varios individuos etiquetados como de esa cultura:

I0018_Germany_LBK_EN_7140_ybp,15.88,0.00,49.99,0.0 0,30.50,3.63,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0022_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,15.65,0.00,42.75,0.0 0,35.61,5.99,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0025_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,17.92,0.00,47.03,0.0 0,31.86,3.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0026_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,14.40,0.00,45.82,0.0 0,34.91,4.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0046_Germany_LBK_EN_7051_ybp,13.82,0.00,47.91,0.0 0,34.56,3.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0048_Germany_LBK_EN_7056_ybp,9.78,0.00,48.17,0.00 ,38.36,3.69,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0054_Germany_LBK_EN_7072_ybp,17.59,0.00,49.31,0.0 0,31.49,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0056_Germany_LBK_EN_7061_ybp,19.69,0.00,45.17,0.0 0,31.22,3.92,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0057_Germany_LBK_EN_7070_ybp,12.63,0.00,47.29,0.0 0,34.66,5.33,0.00,0.09,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I2008_Germany_LBK_EN_7052_ybp,12.37,0.00,52.91,0.0 0,32.72,2.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I2026_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,14.02,0.00,47.20,0.0 0,38.79,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I2029_Germany_LBK_EN_7126_ybp,19.22,0.48,42.64,0.0 0,33.49,4.17,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I2030_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,11.88,0.00,46.99,0.0 0,36.26,4.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I2032_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,14.28,0.00,44.77,0.0 0,36.15,4.80,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I2036_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,11.21,0.00,50.57,0.0 0,34.59,3.63,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I2037_Germany_LBK_EN_7056_ybp,14.16,0.00,48.29,0.0 0,35.75,1.50,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.29,0.00,0.00
I2038_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,13.51,0.00,48.90,0.0 0,34.56,3.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I1550_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,17.25,0.00,47.61,0.0 0,32.40,2.74,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0821_Germany_LBK_EN_6976_ybp,14.88,0.00,47.86,0.0 0,35.02,2.25,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0659_Germany_LBK_EN_7037_ybp,15.02,0.00,47.74,0.0 0,33.06,4.18,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
I0100_Germany_LBK_EN_6977_ybp,16.42,0.00,47.76,0.0 0,33.97,1.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00



Y en el G25(scaled), también hay varios(Stuttgart está en Baden-Württenberg, pero no reconozco ninguna sigla que pueda indicarnos cual de estas muestras es esa exactamente):


DEU_LBK_HBS,0.1244086,0.182592,0.0124072,-0.0896648,0.0641812,-0.0429073,-0.0036896,-0.0041883,0.0414365,0.0872364,0.0092805,0.0126936,-0.023927,0.0001514,-0.038877,-0.0078295,0.0197988,0.00515,0.0125886,-0.0122746,-0.0098015,0.0061826,-0.0089292,-0.0052416,-0.0037063
DEU_LBK_KD,0.127482,0.183811,0.023381,-0.086564,0.079707,-0.043228,-0.010575,0.021691,0.052767,0.091118,0.011205,0.018 583,-0.015461,-0.006881,-0.044109,-0.020419,0.002217,0.015836,0.015587,-0.021635,-0.004243,0.022999,-0.025882,0.010363,-0.002994
DEU_LBK_SCH,0.1142784,0.1787332,0.0100314,-0.0908276,0.0607496,-0.0401042,0.000329,-0.0073844,0.0417638,0.0824072,0.009776,0.0103108,-0.0229828,0.0046242,-0.0385172,-0.0069476,0.018019,0.00451,0.0144304,-0.0110304,-0.0054652,0.0019288,-0.0053244,-0.0122186,-0.0034966
DEU_LBK_SMH,0.1203421,0.1797025,0.015942,-0.0828642,0.0596754,-0.0407307,-0.0022112,-0.0044264,0.0449487,0.0840605,0.0068277,0.011417,-0.0237046,0.0007444,-0.03699,-0.0066837,0.0194035,0.0016067,0.0141925,-0.0104368,-0.0090976,0.0036702,-0.0058822,-0.0043379,-0.0037395
DEU_LBK_UW,0.129758,0.178733,0.01961,-0.081719,0.068013,-0.042949,-0.00282,-0.006692,0.037837,0.082553,0.002923,0.019033,-0.022002,0.006193,-0.042616,-0.006762,0.026859,0.006841,0.015209,-0.008254,-0.015972,0.016075,0.000493,-0.005904,-0.007784

hantrolugharsts
06-04-2021, 10:03 PM
Siguiendo la línea del hilo con Gedmatch tenía estos resultados míos aprovechando que tuve un tiempo para esta aplicación concreta comparé con los kits que pude obtener en ese momento y que estaban porque los kits ahí hoy están y mañana no. Una pequeña muestra de neolítico, LBK, corded ware, Bell, así como el que no quiere la cosa, pues ahí están los números de kits por si alguien quiere probar con ellos.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dm2Wrf72reA/XvaKHN4wY4I/AAAAAAAAEGI/--fG-x6KTIIAR2d0GiYfIWrItdSFlvZ9gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/LBKi0054.jpeg

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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ryBL-4voHqc/XvaN8kxXXTI/AAAAAAAAEGc/wKRorHW3mIkqyJb4CVVdrIjuBgx8ahlOgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/CordedWareGermanyI0103.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KkPEEXMHJLc/XvaOAecj_vI/AAAAAAAAEGg/H5ApmWvxpzg2JjxWu3ZGvUXznWzRoNdmgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/CordedWareGermanyI0104.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2Yn2suyqplU/XvaZF2QhOQI/AAAAAAAAEII/vfSbgdd-nqEl-V1GsYiJO8NDoeJmLQaeACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BeakerNorthItalyI2477.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zvm9eQEUIwc/XvaaSPSgtiI/AAAAAAAAEIc/S4HYfRstUVgBkALjhD94nO-wgmENK5rqgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BeakerNoSteppeItalyi2477.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i-izjuZRaTo/Xvaaw1nPh7I/AAAAAAAAEIk/GLQOedoVLboQKqVCryZY3FerAeR1eUSpwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BeakerNorthItalyi2478.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Yu4vVV0rZ-4/XvakdRS2TGI/AAAAAAAAEKQ/h5Odfd9ZHa83r0HVOu0QFS7HyCYDRktkwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/NeolithicPodoliaILK002.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cX-6qEDgfBA/XvagjUuRC8I/AAAAAAAAEJw/xh_20699nso7SmhV65XlmxUZ47ZzaD8KgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BeakerSouthFranceI3874.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mmj3LBSYQfk/Xvaba2WO82I/AAAAAAAAEIw/f8pnuYeUJGYIW3TA_A5xkK3TVOxZhpdzwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/NeolithicRomaniai2532.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OLNYGNl_xt8/Xvabe6_-P9I/AAAAAAAAEI0/yd47p2UejBccY-9abLZKtFqpcF1zFn3EgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/NeolithicOrkneyI2630.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hkPwjhTKA0E/XvaeE3KgW4I/AAAAAAAAEJY/Wk6GvPF6SEcuVzwrz4q7Kewdd76D2wjkQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/NeolithicOrkneyI2650.JPEG

Xemks
06-05-2021, 01:32 PM
¿Cómo puedo saber el número de Kit de los que salen en Archaic DNA Matches para comparar en One-to-one?

Xemks
06-05-2021, 02:08 PM
¿Cómo puedo saber el número de Kit de los que salen en Archaic DNA Matches para comparar en One-to-one?

Mientras tanto posteo esto:

Resultados con +3cM:
45017
F999800: 1 segmento en el 8.
F999824: 1 segmento en el 11.

Desaparecen al subir a +4cM.

Resultados +4cM:
45019
F999800: 2 segmentos, uno en el 10 y otro en el 21.
F999805: 1 segmento en el 8.

Desaparecen al subir a +5cM.

Resultados +6cM:
45021
F999800: 1 segmento en 22.

Desaparecen al subir a +7cM.

Resultados +9cM:
45022
F999852: 1 segmento en el 11.

Desaparece al subir a +10cM.

Si tenéis cualquier apreciación que hacer, es bienvenida porque aún no controlo mucho del tema cM y cómo interpretar más allá de lo que me dicte el sentido común, jajaja.

castrogonzalo
06-15-2021, 09:22 PM
Tengo curiosidad por confirmar si todos compartimos más o menos las mismas. Abro hilo con las mías.

A 6 cM:

- 1 segmento de F999916 LBK, Stuttgart 7ky.

A 5 cM:

- 2 segmentos de F999916 LBK, Stuttgart 7ky
- 1 segmento de F999933 BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky

A 4 cM:

- 4 segmentos de F999916 LBK, Stuttgart 7ky
- 4 segmentos de F999933 BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky
- 1 segmento de F999918 Loschbour, Luxembourg, 8ky
- 1 segmento de F999937 NE1, Hungary, 7.2ky

A 6 cM:

- 1 segmento de F999834 Mina18, La Mina, Spain, 3.8ky BCE, Iberian Mid Neolithic.

A 5 cM:

- 1 segmento de F999800 Rathlin1, Ireland, 2.0ky cal BCE
- 1 segmento de F999830 SVP12, Novoselki, Samara, Russia, 1.5ky cal BCE
- 1 segmento de F999834 Mina18, La Mina, Spain, 3.8ky BCE, Iberian Mid Neolithic.

A 4 cM:

- F999800 Rathlin1, Ireland, 2.0ky cal BCE
- F999805 Ballynahatty, Ireland, 3.2ky cal BCE
- F999812 ESP24, Germany, 3.2ky cal BCE
- F999822 UWS4, Unterwiederstedt, Germany, 5.1ky cal BCE
- F999825 ESP11, Esperstedt, Germany, 2.4ky cal BCE
- F999830 SVP12, Novoselki, Samara, Russia, 1.5ky cal BCE
- F999834 Mina18, La Mina, Spain, 3.8ky BCE, Iberian Mid Neolithic.

darkblur
06-25-2021, 06:15 AM
Hola.
Lo tienes en la izquierda, al principio de cada fila, ej: F999700

Shadogowah
06-25-2021, 09:47 AM
A nadie más le sale el abuelo de Loschbour?

darkblur
06-25-2021, 11:55 AM
A mi me salía, pero creo que han cambiado las muestras, la mayoría de muestras actuales no estaban antes.

rober_tce
06-25-2021, 05:50 PM
A mí me salen muchas muestras alemanas y algunas de Anatolia, escandinavas e ibéricas, incluso me sale alguna eslava. El que dice Shado no me aparece.

Shadogowah
06-25-2021, 07:33 PM
A mí me salen muchas muestras alemanas y algunas de Anatolia, escandinavas e ibéricas, incluso me sale alguna eslava. El que dice Shado no me aparece.

Tengo que probar otra vez. Dicen que las han cambiado.

Davidtab
06-30-2021, 08:05 AM
A mí me sale:
+2cm F999800 Rathlin1 Ireland 2.0ky
+4cm F999804 Kotias Georgia 9.7ky
+5cm F999811 HAL36C Germany 1.1ky

Y nada más.