My grandfather,Chinese,China Dungane，T-Y13290*

[Ghazi du]

I've uploaded yfull，https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-Y13293/ id:YF62618

[drobbah]

Nice! Are you Hui or of Turkic origin?

[Ghazi du]

Hui ，But there is no complete family record. Many Hui people living in Shandong Province of China are similar to the Western Y chromosome。：）

[Ghazi du]

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/xUl82xsNpZHvWpwQ0luxzw I would like to recommend to you a little article written by one of my friends on molecular anthropology of Hui nationality。You can use the translation software to have a look. Thank you

[vettor]

I've uploaded yfull，https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-Y13293/ id:YF62618

Your Dna marker states you are from the T1a1 branch ................but all the T branches, T1a1, T1a2 and T1a3 seem to come from that area of south kazaks ( Aral sea area ) and as far south as Turkmenistan ..............while T2-PH110 branch , which is very very old has been found in Bhutan.

Every T ydna person has snp's from Ydna Haplogroup LT ..................I mean 100% , there is no T person that can avoid not being from haplogroup LT

LT ydna haplogroup originate from Haplogroup K-M9 50000 years ago

[Ghazi du]

Your Dna marker states you are from the T1a1 branch ................but all the T branches, T1a1, T1a2 and T1a3 seem to come from that area of south kazaks ( Aral sea area ) and as far south as Turkmenistan ..............while T2-PH110 branch , which is very very old has been found in Bhutan.

Every T ydna person has snp's from Ydna Haplogroup LT ..................I mean 100% , there is no T person that can avoid not being from haplogroup LT

LT ydna haplogroup originate from Haplogroup K-M9 50000 years ago

I don't quite understand,My branch is T1a3b2a1b。Aren't the following four people from the Middle East? （YFULL TREE）（Two Iraqis and two Saudis）Why do they come from Central Asia?

[vettor]

I don't quite understand,My branch is T1a3b2a1b。Aren't the following four people from the Middle East? （YFULL TREE）（Two Iraqis and two Saudis）Why do they come from Central Asia?

yes it is ....T1a3 ...misprint by myself......like this T1a3 below, another misprint ..................the oldest T1a3 skeleton found in Kazak land

The Iraqi samples are younger than your branch ................they might be part of the Persian story of ..............ancient Persians moving from Uzbekistan to Persia ( iran ) in the late bronze -age

Kok-Mardan ( 1800 yBP - Late Antiquity ) Kaunchi Culture ( Kangju )

DA125 ( 1755 ± 41 yBP )
Kurgan:
Object:
Y-DNA: T1a2a1a1-Y13279
mtDNA: U2e2a1
Diet (d13C%0 / d15N%0): -16,1 / 11,9
Subsistence: Nomadic - Pastoral
Language: Indo-European
Coverage: 0,212
Other IDs: IS6 / Lab. UBA-31227 / CGG_2_016123
Files: FASTQ / FASTQ&BAM (galaxy) / BAM



companies do not have a standard for T1a1 , T1a2, T1a3...............IIRC isogg has another different set of ID names for the 3 branches


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I was told this is also T1a3.....but I cannot find any clear call on it

Gonur Depe ( 3600 yBP - Bronze Age ) Bactria Margiana (BMAC)

I1781 ( 3550 ± 30 yBP / 3841 yBP )
Location: a two-chambered cist in Room 218 in Area 5
Y-DNA: T-M184 (xT1a1a, T1a1b1a, T1a2a1b-Y14637, T1a2b2a1)
mtDNA: T1a1
Age at Death: 25-30
Death Position: Flexed on the right side, oriented NNW
Burial: 20 ceramic vessels along the west wall of the cist
Coverage: 0,345139
Sample: Tooth
Other IDs: Gonur 2003 / Tomb 3012 / Sample 1 / Library S1781.E1.L1, S1781.E1.L2, S1781.E1.L3 / LabN PSUAMS-206

[Ghazi du]

yes it is ....T1a3 ...misprint by myself......like this T1a3 below, another misprint ..................the oldest T1a3 skeleton found in Kazak land

The Iraqi samples are younger than your branch ................they might be part of the Persian story of ..............ancient Persians moving from Uzbekistan to Persia ( iran ) in the late bronze -age

Kok-Mardan ( 1800 yBP - Late Antiquity ) Kaunchi Culture ( Kangju )

DA125 ( 1755 ± 41 yBP )
Kurgan:
Object:
Y-DNA: T1a2a1a1-Y13279
mtDNA: U2e2a1
Diet (d13C%0 / d15N%0): -16,1 / 11,9
Subsistence: Nomadic - Pastoral
Language: Indo-European
Coverage: 0,212
Other IDs: IS6 / Lab. UBA-31227 / CGG_2_016123
Files: FASTQ / FASTQ&BAM (galaxy) / BAM



companies do not have a standard for T1a1 , T1a2, T1a3...............IIRC isogg has another different set of ID names for the 3 branches


..................................................

I was told this is also T1a3.....but I cannot find any clear call on it

Gonur Depe ( 3600 yBP - Bronze Age ) Bactria Margiana (BMAC)

I1781 ( 3550 ± 30 yBP / 3841 yBP )
Location: a two-chambered cist in Room 218 in Area 5
Y-DNA: T-M184 (xT1a1a, T1a1b1a, T1a2a1b-Y14637, T1a2b2a1)
mtDNA: T1a1
Age at Death: 25-30
Death Position: Flexed on the right side, oriented NNW
Burial: 20 ceramic vessels along the west wall of the cist
Coverage: 0,345139
Sample: Tooth
Other IDs: Gonur 2003 / Tomb 3012 / Sample 1 / Library S1781.E1.L1, S1781.E1.L2, S1781.E1.L3 / LabN PSUAMS-206

So do you think my ancestors were from Central Asia or middle east?
i don’t know if you know the Chinese Hui . In the Yuan dynasty, the Mongols caught a lot of such as Central Asians, Middle Easterners, and even some Eastern Europeans a. They intermarried with the Han nationality in the Ming Dynasty, and later formed the Hui nationality. And believe in Islam。

[vettor]

So do you think my ancestors were from Central Asia or middle east?
i don’t know if you know the Chinese Hui . In the Yuan dynasty, the Mongols caught a lot of such as Central Asians, Middle Easterners, and even some Eastern Europeans a. They intermarried with the Han nationality in the Ming Dynasty, and later formed the Hui nationality. And believe in Islam。

Definetly central asia...where LT split aprt into ydna L and ydna T

[Ghazi du]

Definetly central asia...where LT split aprt into ydna L and ydna T

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34585-New-branch-T1a3b-Found-among-the-Khans-of-Kalat
It was said that the royal family of Khans of Kalat was t1a3b. I don't know if it's true or not

[vettor]

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34585-New-branch-T1a3b-Found-among-the-Khans-of-Kalat
It was said that the royal family of Khans of Kalat was t1a3b. I don't know if it's true or not

Their origin is West Kazakhstan .............do you think they are associated with sample DA125 ( T1a3 ) , also from East kazak lands?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Haplogroup_T-M184_tree.png ...................has not been updated in the past year

[J Man]

yes it is ....T1a3 ...misprint by myself......like this T1a3 below, another misprint ..................the oldest T1a3 skeleton found in Kazak land

The Iraqi samples are younger than your branch ................they might be part of the Persian story of ..............ancient Persians moving from Uzbekistan to Persia ( iran ) in the late bronze -age

Kok-Mardan ( 1800 yBP - Late Antiquity ) Kaunchi Culture ( Kangju )

DA125 ( 1755 ± 41 yBP )
Kurgan:
Object:
Y-DNA: T1a2a1a1-Y13279
mtDNA: U2e2a1
Diet (d13C%0 / d15N%0): -16,1 / 11,9
Subsistence: Nomadic - Pastoral
Language: Indo-European
Coverage: 0,212
Other IDs: IS6 / Lab. UBA-31227 / CGG_2_016123
Files: FASTQ / FASTQ&BAM (galaxy) / BAM



companies do not have a standard for T1a1 , T1a2, T1a3...............IIRC isogg has another different set of ID names for the 3 branches


..................................................

I was told this is also T1a3.....but I cannot find any clear call on it

Gonur Depe ( 3600 yBP - Bronze Age ) Bactria Margiana (BMAC)

I1781 ( 3550 ± 30 yBP / 3841 yBP )
Location: a two-chambered cist in Room 218 in Area 5
Y-DNA: T-M184 (xT1a1a, T1a1b1a, T1a2a1b-Y14637, T1a2b2a1)
mtDNA: T1a1
Age at Death: 25-30
Death Position: Flexed on the right side, oriented NNW
Burial: 20 ceramic vessels along the west wall of the cist
Coverage: 0,345139
Sample: Tooth
Other IDs: Gonur 2003 / Tomb 3012 / Sample 1 / Library S1781.E1.L1, S1781.E1.L2, S1781.E1.L3 / LabN PSUAMS-206

Where did you get that information about the diet and subsistence type of DA125?....Nevermind I found the source.