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Luso
07-18-2020, 04:58 PM
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Aiden
05-28-2021, 09:41 AM
Southern Portuguese but hardly any Portugal :P

Luso
06-04-2021, 02:18 AM
Southern Portuguese but hardly any Portugal :P

ik, very odd..

chocoholic
06-04-2021, 02:39 AM
ik, very odd..

Spanish and Portuguese DNA are pretty similar IIRC, so the fact you got Spanish doesn’t surprise me. Your 6% North African is cool. Do you get any North African on 23andme, or just Iberian? I definitely wonder if the Iberian category on there includes Moorish markers.

Luso
06-04-2021, 02:42 AM
Spanish and Portuguese DNA are pretty similar IIRC, so the fact you got Spanish doesn’t surprise me. Your 6% North African is cool. Do you get any North African on 23andme, or just Iberian? I definitely wonder if the Iberian category on there includes Moorish markers.

on 23andMe I got 1% North African and 1% cypriot

chocoholic
06-04-2021, 02:51 AM
on 23andMe I got 1% North African and 1% cypriot

Yeah, then you probably have some Moorish ancestry buried into your Iberian percentages as well. I’d definitely recommend G25 to see if you have any Levantine or North African ancestry. From the reference sheet, just choose the Portuguese samples, and some of the North African ones, to see what you would get on there. I’m pretty good at making tailored models, so hmu if you need any help.

Luso
06-04-2021, 02:57 AM
Yeah, then you probably have some Moorish ancestry buried into your Iberian percentages as well. I’d definitely recommend G25 to see if you have any Levantine or North African ancestry. From the reference sheet, just choose the Portuguese samples, and some of the North African ones, to see what you would get on there. I’m pretty good at making tailored models, so hmu if you need any help.

I have my g25, if you send me the code i could show my results.

Luso
07-20-2021, 07:14 AM
Forgot to add the "Regions in Europe":

https://i.imgur.com/MO33jR0.png

I'm from the Algarve and I only get .30% of "Portugal Algarve" :biggrin1:

Tomenable
07-20-2021, 07:24 AM
Algarve was the last area of Portugal to be reconquered from the Moors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Algarve#The_conquest_of_Algarve

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algarve#History

"In the mid-13th century, during the Reconquista, the Kingdom of Portugal took over the region in a series of successful military campaigns against the Moors. Al-Gharb became the Kingdom of the Algarve, and the Moors were expelled in 1294. As the southernmost region to be conquered by the Portuguese, the coveted territory became for a while the end goal of the Kingdom of Portugal’s expansionist policy known as Reconquista and by itself one of the reasons behind the foundation of Portugal. There were subsequent Moorish attempts to recapture the region, without success."

BTW what do you score in other DNA tests ???

Luso
07-20-2021, 07:34 AM
Algarve was the last area of Portugal to be reconquered from the Moors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Algarve#The_conquest_of_Algarve

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algarve#History

"In the mid-13th century, during the Reconquista, the Kingdom of Portugal took over the region in a series of successful military campaigns against the Moors. Al-Gharb became the Kingdom of the Algarve, and the Moors were expelled in 1294. As the southernmost region to be conquered by the Portuguese, the coveted territory became for a while the end goal of the Kingdom of Portugal’s expansionist policy known as Reconquista and by itself one of the reasons behind the foundation of Portugal. There were subsequent Moorish attempts to recapture the region, without success."



Yes, and my family is from the town of Silves which was the former capital of the Kingdom of the Algarve. It was held by the moors for a long time: "After 713, when the Moors invaded Iberia, Silves became part of the Umayyad Emirate of Córdoba under the Arabic name of Shilb (شلب). In the 10th century, it was one of the most important towns in western Al-Andalus." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silves,_Portugal)


BTW what do you score in other DNA tests ???


Here is my 23andMe:
https://i.imgur.com/nUQloCT.png

Here is my AncestryDNA:
https://i.imgur.com/GNNuoRk.png

Here is my FTDNA results:
https://i.imgur.com/ufhMIUw.png

Here is myHeritage results:
https://i.imgur.com/Pr5TvQh.png

Here is my ADNTRO:
https://i.imgur.com/31LWr8s.png

Tomenable
07-20-2021, 07:39 AM
Azores ???

Looks like "you like islands" - Baleares, Azores...

Luso
07-20-2021, 07:46 AM
Azores ???

Looks like "you like islands" - Baleares, Azores...

It gives 99% of Portuguese people the Azores as the top region no matter where you're from in Portugal because most test-takers are Azoreans. The island was not inhabited by anyone until 1432 so everyone on that island is of mainland Portuguese ancestry. AncestryDNA, and myheritage pinpointed that I'm southern Portuguese well.

My second region is Faro which is accurate for my ancestry:

https://i.imgur.com/bY7Zw5G.png

https://i.imgur.com/eTfvhV9.png

AncestryDNA shows it:

https://i.imgur.com/mpKX7Ew.png

Myheritage is also pretty accurate although I only know about Faro not these other marked areas:

https://i.imgur.com/LwJIaRp.png

Tomenable
07-20-2021, 07:59 AM
It gives 99% of Portuguese people the Azores as the top region no matter where you're from

So it is like Malopolskie for Polish people. It seems every Pole scores Malopolskie as the top region in 23andMe.

They give me my correct region as well, but it is far down the list (not 2nd but 6th from the top in my case):

https://i.imgur.com/HJIFpat.png

^^^
They used to give me Ukraine (Lviv Oblast) before the update - now they say they do not detect Ukraine.

But they detect Russia instead, quite weird:

https://i.imgur.com/SA0KWJY.png