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sheepslayer
08-03-2020, 11:18 PM
I made trees for S1194 and Z2118 using data from the FTDNA block tree. Eupedia doesn't have a tree for either of these branches, so I figured I would make something that looks good. All dates are from YFull
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RBHeadge
09-16-2020, 01:52 AM
Thanks for putting this together.
I would add that FT68442 is from Germany, and the two haplogroups under FT52936 (FT137205 and FT52869) are from Switzerland/Germany.

I do have a question about the eras listed. Is it correct to put PF7589 as Enolithic Steppe? Or would it be Chalcolthic or EBA?

sheepslayer
09-16-2020, 04:32 PM
Since I posted this I figured out how to boil each tree down to its most basic structure. I accomplish this by removing all mutations that do not lie at the head of a branch, thus getting rid of long progressions of SNPs who denote the same tree split. Though I have not yet found the time to give these branches dates, here is what I have so far:
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I also did this for U106, I-CTS10057, and J-PF5116 so if anybody is interested in seeing those trees, shoot me a PM and I will make a post in the relevant thread/category :) Heads of branches containing two or more branches become "families," and families below the head of each "family progression" become one of the relevant family's "levels," in bold.


Thanks for putting this together.
I would add that FT68442 is from Germany, and the two haplogroups under FT52936 (FT137205 and FT52869) are from Switzerland/Germany.

I do have a question about the eras listed. Is it correct to put PF7589 as Enolithic Steppe? Or would it be Chalcolthic or EBA?

According to YFull, PF7589/Z2118 is a brother clade to L52 beneath L51, and PF7589 was formed around 3750 BC. Eneolithic steppe is a good description for when and where this branch formed :) And I do plan to denote the origins of each branch as I continue to add to these new trees.