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Adamm
09-14-2020, 01:45 PM
A second ancient Guanche sample has been added to the YFULL tree -by the E-M81 project administrator- with an estimated age of 1650 ybp, and the sample turned out on the Senhaji clade E-FT76699 which is shared by 3 other Moroccans from the Senhaja tribe south of Morocco and one English person. It is safe to say based upon the current information that the guanches indeed came from Southern Morocco.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-FT76699/

https://i.imgur.com/vK7wUYQ.png

Adamm
09-14-2020, 02:24 PM
Autosomal results of this sample:

https://i.imgur.com/1foBjuC.png

Ibericus
09-14-2020, 02:49 PM
I agree with you but I think it's going to take some time to conclusively prove that this particular line jumped from southern Morocco directly to the Canary islands. The problem is that it may have travelled to the Iberian peninsula during the Islamic period and then down to Canary islands with the conquistadores. In fact there may be more penisular spaniards under that branch that actual Guanches (in absolute numbers).

Adamm
09-14-2020, 03:07 PM
I agree with you but I think it's going to take some time to conclusively prove that this particular line jumped from southern Morocco directly to the Canary islands. The problem is that it may have travelled to the Iberian peninsula during the Islamic period and then down to Canary islands with the conquistadores. In fact there may be more penisular spaniards under that branch that actual Guanches (in absolute numbers).

This sample in particular is older than Islamic period as he lived more than 1400 years ago, it's also one of the oldest Guanche sample which is sequenced.

" Two individuals from Tenerife (gun001 and gun012) and one from Gran Canaria (gun013) carried the U6b1a haplotype, which is hypothesized to be endemic to and a founder lineage of the Canary Islands (Tables 1 and S1) [15]."

https://i.imgur.com/RS1IchA.png

Also this picture illustrates where the 3 matches of this sample come from in Morocco, which is very close to the Canary Islands:

https://i.imgur.com/D7bIWar.png

Ibericus
09-14-2020, 03:24 PM
Awesome, I take back my words. I thought it was present-day.

Adamm
09-14-2020, 04:50 PM
On a PCA:

https://i.imgur.com/RRZmxGj.png
https://i.imgur.com/okQxKzO.png

tibussio
10-31-2020, 07:17 AM
OR MAURITANIA , at that time all that areas were tribal feuds and the name was tribes of atlas

Adamm
10-31-2020, 02:30 PM
OR MAURITANIA , at that time all that areas were tribal feuds and the name was tribes of atlas

The autosomalic profile of the guanches matches best with North Moroccans, Central Moroccans and Soussis in particular.

Farroukh
10-31-2020, 05:05 PM
Dear Tibussio,
Where did you test your Y-DNA? Was it FTDNA?

Mauritanian E-M34 is interesting.

End of offtop.

Megatron
02-21-2021, 03:31 PM
Interesting!

Squad
02-23-2021, 05:55 AM
Btw guys, the ancient studies about Guanches I think the Y-DNA results were erroneous. Haplogroup I at 10% lol

ahsap
02-23-2021, 06:05 AM
Btw guys, the ancient studies about Guanches I think the Y-DNA results were erroneous. Haplogroup I at 10% lol

Where is link for that study?

capsian
02-24-2021, 01:12 PM
Where is link for that study?

Fergel at 2009