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dosas
10-02-2020, 09:40 AM
David mentioned recently that the Steppe component in Greeks is Corded-Ware derived. The below model (scaled, default penalty) reflects this nicely:

https://i.ibb.co/4W3wvB6/table.png

lacreme
10-02-2020, 12:52 PM
Should we assume that "Corded Ware" is the total of the various corded ware groups on the ancient datasheet ?
If so, my friend's model is the following

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.0303% / 0.02030288
49.0 TUR_Barcin_N
20.4 Corded_Ware_Baltic_early
9.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
8.8 Corded_Ware_DEU
8.0 Levant_PPNB
4.0 GEO_CHG

dosas
10-02-2020, 01:09 PM
The one I used was the 2337 BCE Poland, but feel free to use some other.

lacreme
10-02-2020, 01:31 PM
The one I used was the 2337 BCE Poland, but feel free to use some other.

Do you mean the Poland proto-unetice average?

(There is also poland and poland early on the list)

Greekscholar
10-02-2020, 02:28 PM
Interesting. I must be using different Corded Ware populations than you, as this model is showing almost no Levant PPBN in some of our Mainland Posters here.

Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
Distance: 2.8766% / 0.02876646
39.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
26.8 Corded_Ware_POL
19.2 Levant_PPNB
11.2 GEO_CHG
3.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS_Dad(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
Distance: 2.9141% / 0.02914090
38.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 Corded_Ware_POL
19.0 Levant_PPNB
8.8 GEO_CHG
6.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
Distance: 2.1538% / 0.02153760
43.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
24.6 Corded_Ware_POL
13.8 Levant_PPNB
10.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
8.0 GEO_CHG

Target: Christos_scaled(Peloponnese/Thessaly)
Distance: 3.2666% / 0.03266584
49.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
35.0 Corded_Ware_POL
8.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
4.8 GEO_CHG
1.8 Levant_PPNB
1.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Anthony_C_scaled(Peloponnese)
Distance: 3.1410% / 0.03140958
52.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
37.6 Corded_Ware_POL
7.0 GEO_CHG
1.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.4 Levant_PPNB

Target: ChristosA_family(Pelopennese/Arvanite):ChristosA_scaled(Peloponnese/Arvanite)
Distance: 2.5339% / 0.02533884
53.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
37.6 Corded_Ware_POL
5.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
3.8 GEO_CHG
0.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Andrewid
10-02-2020, 02:31 PM
Can you add Cypriot Greek avarage into the mix? Obviously very low.

I just got this:

Target: Andrewid_scaled
Distance: 2.5158% / 0.02515807
38.0 TUR_Barcin_N
26.2 Levant_PPNB
13.2 GEO_CHG
13.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
9.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early

dosas
10-02-2020, 03:09 PM
Interesting. I must be using different Corded Ware populations than you, as this model is showing almost no Levant PPBN in some of our Mainland Posters here.




It's probably because of the difference in penalties, or because some users are too northern shifted for the reference populations. I just realized I forgot to use the Greek_Thessaly, so this is an updated list with Cyprus, also:


https://i.ibb.co/j40c855/table-1.png

CyrylBojarski
10-02-2020, 04:16 PM
David mentioned recently that the Steppe component in Greeks is Corded-Ware derived. The below model (scaled, default penalty) reflects this nicely:

https://i.ibb.co/4W3wvB6/table.png

Hi, can you please tell me what calculator are you using here?

dosas
10-02-2020, 05:00 PM
Hi, can you please tell me what calculator are you using here?

It's not a calculator, I picked the references individually. They're scaled and with default penalty, I don't remember batch/cycle run, but it was pretty high.

CyrylBojarski
10-02-2020, 05:02 PM
It's not a calculator, I picked the references individually. They're scaled and with default penalty, I don't remember batch/cycle run, but it was pretty high.

How can I use it?

dosas
10-02-2020, 05:04 PM
How can I use it?

https://genoplot.com/

They have a tutorial, you need G25 data for the nmonte runner.

CyrylBojarski
10-02-2020, 05:06 PM
https://genoplot.com/

They have a tutorial, you need G25 data for the nmonte runner.

Thank you. I thought it was not on Genoplot, but somewhere else