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Coldmountains
10-31-2020, 09:45 AM
Yfull uploaded some Srubnaya samples and analyzed their R1a clades, which unsurprisingly are mainly under under Z93.

More interesting here is that many if not most Srubnaya samples are under rare and basal Z93* clades with some, Z280*, Z2124 and Z2123. So many of the Srubnaya clades diverged earlier from most of the Scythian/Saka R1a clades than Indo-Aryan L657, which is like Scythian Z2124 clades also under Z94. None of the Srubnaya clades seems to be very common today and they are often spread over a very wide region. It seems their clades were mostly replaced by Saka/Cimmerians/Scythians from the east who brought Mongol_N-like admix and also more eastern Z94 and Z2124 clades. Some of the Srubnaya clades were likely still present among later Scythians/Sarmatians and because of that some Srubnaya clades seem to match modern day East Europeans and North Caucasians. Based on all this i would speculate, that Srubnaya belonged to an extinct branch of Indo-Iranians or at least to some kind of early diverged Para-Iranics.

MUR003
Muradym 8 Srubno-alakulskaya 1880 - 1685 BCE R1a-Z93>BY226207 https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/R-BY226207/ (closest matches modern day Italian and Saudi Arabian samples)

KZB002
Kazburun 1 Srubno-alakulskaya 1875 - 1665 BCE R1a-Z93>YP5585 https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/R-YP5585*/ (closest matches modern day Indian and British samples)

KZB007
Kazburun 1 Srubno-alakulskaya 1755 - 1630 BCE R-Z93>Z94>Z2124>Z2125>Z2123>Y934>BY30762 https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/R-BY30762/ (closest matches modern day East European and North Caucasian samples)

KZB008
Kazburun 1 Srubno-alakulskaya 1880 -1690 BCE R-Z283>Z282>Z280* https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/R-Z280*/

KZB005 is based on his BAM files also under R1a-Z280* but i could not find him on Yfull yet. He is the brother of KZB008 so he will be under the same clade.

KZB005
kzb005 Kazburun 1 Srubno-alakulskaya 1880 - 1690 BCE

Coldmountains
10-31-2020, 05:09 PM
Other Srubnaya samples from another study which were not yet uploaded on Yfull.

I0232
I0232 Novoselki, Samara 1850-1200 BCE R-Z93>FGC82884>YP1506 Here analyzed: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?20521-Y-Chromosome-Haplogroup-assignments-for-2500-ancient-samples/page3 https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP1506/ (closest matches modern day samples from Pakistan and the Altai region)

I0430
I0430 Spiridonovka II, Samara 1850-1600 BCE R-Z93>Z94>Z2124>Z2125>Z2123 Here analyzed: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?20521-Y-Chromosome-Haplogroup-assignments-for-2500-ancient-samples/page3 Yfull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2123/

I0361
I0361 Spiridonovka II, Samara 1850-1600 BCE R-Z93>Z94>Z2124 Here analyzed: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?20521-Y-Chromosome-Haplogroup-assignments-for-2500-ancient-samples/page3 Yfull:https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2124/

I0423
I0423 Barinovka I, Samara 1850-1200 BCE R-Z93 Here analyzed: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?20521-Y-Chromosome-Haplogroup-assignments-for-2500-ancient-samples/page3 Yfull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z93/

I0424
I0424 Barinovka I, Samara 1850-1200 BCE R-Z93 Here analyzed: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?20521-Y-Chromosome-Haplogroup-assignments-for-2500-ancient-samples/page3 Yfull:https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z93/

I0360
I0360 Spiridonovka IV, Samara 2050-1650 BCE R1a-M417 Here analyzed: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?20521-Y-Chromosome-Haplogroup-assignments-for-2500-ancient-samples/page3 Yfull:https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M417/