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Halgurd
11-09-2020, 11:28 AM
Apologies if this has been posted before

Iraqi Arabs
Haplogroups | Observed (n) | %
J1 93 36.6
E1b1b 35 13.8
J2a1b 24 9.4
J2 17 6.7
R1a 16 6.3
R1b 15 5.9
J2b 11 4.3
UP 8 3.1
G2a 7 2.7
L 6 2.4
Q 6 2.4
T 5 2.0
E1a 2 0.8
I2 2 0.8
I2b1 2 0.8
E1b1a 1 0.4
J2a1 1 0.4
N 1 0.4
O3 1 0.4
R2 1 0.4
Total 254

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72283-1

RCO
11-09-2020, 11:41 AM
Nothing new here, it would be a good article only if they tested Y-DNA NGS because we need to know the SNPs structure and we need results from other unknow Northern Middle Eastern populations. 1500 years ago nobody would know what was an Iraqi Arab, so that's another problem.

subzero85
11-29-2020, 07:57 PM
This is from the Iraq DNA project with non-Iraqi results thrown out.

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/iraq/dna-results

This consists of 1680 samples.

Haplogroup %
J1 31.85%
J2 20.30%
E1b (and E) 12.02%
G 6.67%
R1b 6.67%
R1a 6.19%
T 5.65%
L 2.80%
Q 2.32%
R2 1.01%
J1* DYS388 = 13/14 0.95%
I 0.83%
H 0.60%
C 0.54%
K 0.42%
O 0.42%
N 0.36%
F 0.18%
D 0.12%
A 0.06%
B 0.06%
Grand Total 100.00%

Helves
12-01-2020, 09:07 PM
This is from the Iraq DNA project with non-Iraqi results thrown out.

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/iraq/dna-results

This consists of 1680 samples.

Haplogroup %
J1 31.85%
J2 20.30%
E1b (and E) 12.02%
G 6.67%
R1b 6.67%
R1a 6.19%
T 5.65%
L 2.80%
Q 2.32%
R2 1.01%
J1* DYS388 = 13/14 0.95%
I 0.83%
H 0.60%
C 0.54%
K 0.42%
O 0.42%
N 0.36%
F 0.18%
D 0.12%
A 0.06%
B 0.06%
Grand Total 100.00%

Is there a fast way to calculate this or did you just do it manually?

subzero85
12-02-2020, 05:24 PM
Is there a fast way to calculate this or did you just do it manually?

I imported it into Microsoft Excel, filtered out non-Iraqis. Created a column to "zoom" out to the root, H-M69, H-M82 => H for example.

Than I made a pivot table to display the final results with the new column.

aaronbee2010
12-02-2020, 06:07 PM
This is from the Iraq DNA project with non-Iraqi results thrown out.

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/iraq/dna-results

This consists of 1680 samples.

Haplogroup %
J1 31.85%
J2 20.30%
E1b (and E) 12.02%
G 6.67%
R1b 6.67%
R1a 6.19%
T 5.65%
L 2.80%
Q 2.32%
R2 1.01%
J1* DYS388 = 13/14 0.95%
I 0.83%
H 0.60%
C 0.54%
K 0.42%
O 0.42%
N 0.36%
F 0.18%
D 0.12%
A 0.06%
B 0.06%
Grand Total 100.00%

Samples 637339 and 729901 are R2, not R1b.

Farroukh
12-08-2020, 05:49 PM
Mashallah, Iraqi people contains whole line of basic Y-haplogroups, except M and S :)

This is the strong evidence of Iraq as a crossroad of the world. More than ~60% is Middle Eastern lines, ~20% Southern Asia, ~10% Central Asia, ~10% other regions (Africa, Europe)

I am still waiting for Sumerian Y-DNA, key to the past of Iraq.

subzero85
12-08-2020, 05:51 PM
Mashallah, Iraqi people contains whole line of basic Y-haplogroups, except M and S :)

This is the strong evidence of Iraq as a crossroad of the world. More than ~60% is Middle Eastern lines, ~20% Southern Asia, ~10% Central Asia, ~10% other regions (Africa, Europe)

I am still waiting for Sumerian Y-DNA, key to the past of Iraq.

I suspect some of the H and R men could be descendants of South Asian pilgrims. Some have the surname Al-Hindi/Al-Hindawi.

Southern Iraq has some Iraqis of African descent.

A true melting pot.

Farroukh
12-08-2020, 06:32 PM
Yes, they seems to be migrants from Southern Asia

KLMDG
03-25-2021, 01:41 PM
Nothing new here, it would be a good article only if they tested Y-DNA NGS because we need to know the SNPs structure and we need results from other unknow Northern Middle Eastern populations. 1500 years ago nobody would know what was an Iraqi Arab, so that's another problem.

Lakhmids capitol (Al-Hirah) was in modern day Iraq
and Tayy tribe existed in Iraq since pre-Islamic times
so what do you mean by "1500 years ago nobody would know what was an Iraqi Arab" ?

bunduqdari
04-21-2021, 09:23 AM
Lakhmids capitol (Al-Hirah) was in modern day Iraq
and Tayy tribe existed in Iraq since pre-Islamic times
so what do you mean by "1500 years ago nobody would know what was an Iraqi Arab" ?

Not only that, but when the Sassanians conquered what's now Iraq they named northern Mesopotamia Arbayestan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbayistan). This was the Syriac name for the region, named after the fact that Arabs were living in northern Mesopotamia. The Kings of the Kingdom of Hatra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hatra) took on the title 'king of Arabs'. This was 2000 years ago, centuries before Islam. And in addition to that, a part of southern Turkey known as Sumatar Harabesi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatar_Harabesi)was known as: ""the seat of the governors of 'Arab," who derived their authority from Sin.[6] Five of the Syriac inscriptions at Sumatar Harabesi refer to "the 'Arab", only one of which has been dated (circa 165 CE).[7] Jan Rėtso writes that these inscriptions confirm the presence of Arabs in the area around Edessa, as mentioned twice in the writings of Pliny the Elder." And that is only Mesopotamia. In ancient Lebanon, Arabs are mentioned as fighting against Alexander the Great's conquest of Tyre. Arabs also founded the city of Palmyra in Syria and their presence in Syria goes back even further than Mesoptamia.

What RCO is doing is peddling simplistic cliches about Arabs coming out of Arabia with Islam.