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rms2
11-17-2020, 10:09 PM
Here (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0241278) is a new Beaker paper with more L2 in it, unless I am mistaken about the long hand haplogroup designation R1b1a1a2a1a2b1.

I'm waiting for Single Grave Corded Ware in the Netherlands. Where's that paper?

Another Beaker paper is like a "new" Dracula movie or "Rocky 115".

MitchellSince1893
11-17-2020, 11:29 PM
I don’t read too much into it but figure 5 appears to show a genetic horizon from Steppe to European & Anatolian Neolithic with Corded Ware closer to Steppe and Bell Beaker closer to old European

It appears to illustrate the gradual genetic transition from Steppe to mixture of Steppe and old Europe
I know this is a “no duh” for many of us, but this graphic really highlights it.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figure?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0241278.g004

jdean
11-18-2020, 12:46 AM
Here (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0241278) is a new Beaker paper with more L2 in it, unless I am mistaken about the long hand haplogroup designation R1b1a1a2a1a2b1.

I'm waiting for Single Grave Corded Ware in the Netherlands. Where's that paper?

Another Beaker paper is like a "new" Dracula movie or "Rocky 115".

I joked with an old friend today that even U152 are getting board with Continental BB coming back U152 again and again : )

And I hadn't even looking at the paper, just a guess : ))))

MitchellSince1893
11-18-2020, 01:20 AM
I joked with an old friend today that even U152 are getting board with Continental BB coming back U152 again and again : )

And I hadn't even looking at the paper, just a guess : ))))

Even L2 guys are like “yeah L2 Bell Beaker blah blah blah...but what subclade is it?” They rarely test/identify the subclade. Frustrating.

Dewsloth
11-18-2020, 07:13 AM
Even L2 guys are like “yeah L2 Bell Beaker blah blah blah...but what subclade is it?” They rarely test/identify the subclade. Frustrating.

:lol:
Maternal genetic diversity is high with 23 different mitochondrial haplotypes from 34 individuals, whereas all males belong to one single Y-chromosome haplogroup without any detectable contribution from Y-chromosomes typical of the farmers who had been the sole inhabitants of the region hundreds of years before.

Once again, showing where DF19 wasn't. :behindsofa:

rms2
11-18-2020, 12:10 PM
Don't want to sound ungrateful. I certainly appreciate the way Beaker turned out, given all those years prior to Olalde et al and all the BS we had to endure on various DNA discussion venues.

But at this point I'm kind of Beakered out.

Now I want Mr. Peabody and Sherman to take the Wayback Machine a little further into the past and a little farther east.

41250

jdean
11-18-2020, 05:21 PM
41250

: )))))

GoldenHind
11-18-2020, 05:49 PM
Here (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0241278) is a new Beaker paper with more L2 in it, unless I am mistaken about the long hand haplogroup designation R1b1a1a2a1a2b1.

I'm waiting for Single Grave Corded Ware in the Netherlands. Where's that paper?

Another Beaker paper is like a "new" Dracula movie or "Rocky 115".

Yet, AFAIK, we still don't have a single sample from the northern Beaker province.