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Poliak0
01-17-2021, 11:44 PM
Hello :)

I open this thread to share researches about I-Y14722 haplogroup and his subclades.

According to FamilyTreeDNA i have the subclade : I-BY100859.

I am currently documenting myself on it. :)

Cordially,
Lucas.

Poliak0
01-19-2021, 06:22 PM
Thanks to http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html and https://phylogeographer.com/mygrations/ we can see theorical migrations of Haplogroups.

As for I-Y14722 we obtain theses maps :

SNP Tracker :

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phylogeographer:

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These tools are very interesting. But I don't understand few things.

Why geolocation for HG I-Y14722 is different on both tool ?
Is geolocation reliable on these tools ? I think that it depends on the number of samples ?

I would like to estimate in which ancient population were my paternal lineage.
There is no doubt that it has belonged to atlantic bronze age which covered the atlantic façade.

But after how is it possible to know ?

Cordially,

deadly77
01-19-2021, 06:48 PM
Welcome to the Anthrogenica forum.

One reason for the differences may be the data source - SNP Tracker was developed by Rob Spencer and uses the samples at FTDNA as source data, while Phylogeographer/Mygrations was developed by Hunter Provyn and uses the samples at YFull as source data. FTDNA has the largest Y-DNA customer database, but there are some samples that are at YFull that are not at FTDNA - WGS testers, academic study samples, ancient DNA. YFull's tree also only includes NGS tests while FTDNA's database includes partially tested individuals (ie, folks who have done SNP packs but not Big Y).

Both these mapping tools are great endeavors but both have some of the same limitations - low sample size and the locations are self reported by testers. Nevertheless, they are both pretty useful and nice tools.

Poliak0
01-19-2021, 07:51 PM
Thanks for all the détails :)

Yes that means that we should better use both jointly.

Poliak0
11-22-2021, 09:12 PM
On YFull we observe matches all along the Atlantic coasts.
Ancient DNA with HG I-Y14718 has been found in the Wartberg culture (West Germany) near 5000 BCE but it is a long time ago and descendants seem to have travel a lot since.

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Poliak0
11-22-2021, 09:30 PM
FTDNA results are also showing a geographical spread on the Atlantic coasts countries (also one I-Y14722 is in Switzerland)

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Poliak0
11-22-2021, 09:32 PM
The country report of I-Y14722 is interesting :

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Poliak0
11-22-2021, 09:34 PM
Unfortunatly the are not enough data to draw conslusion or robust assumptions.

deadly77
11-23-2021, 06:10 AM
I deleted your last post - you added a screenshot of your FTDNA matches which included surnames and ancestor names associated with their FTDNA kit numbers. Please don't share non-public information about others without their consent (see 3.5 in the Terms of Service here https://anthrogenica.com/faq.php).

Poliak0
11-24-2021, 04:24 PM
Ah sorry. I dindn't think of that. ^^'