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pgbk87
08-29-2012, 03:28 PM
This is my small scale attempt at mimicing ancestry projects that have popped up in the last couple years:

Link To The Google Docs Spreadsheet Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar_HXyqrt1pBdGs0d1lwWkxxTFZoNzhwV2RvWGRKU 2c#gid=45)

Y-DNA
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mtDNA
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q593/pgbk87/ScreenShot2012-08-28at75121PM.png

Admixture Scores
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q593/pgbk87/ScreenShot2012-08-28at75046PM.png

Map of Participant's Hometowns
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q593/pgbk87/ScreenShot2012-08-28at75012PM.png


I think Kriols have more European Y-DNA (Paternal Line) than I've found so far. I say this because no Belizean (of any ethnicity) descends from a European woman, yet Kriols usually get atleast 20% European. So all of our European admixture comes through men.

Also, it seems like all Kriol people have a little Maya ancestry. Many also have some East Indian as well.

Garifuna peoples native admixture seems to come solely through native women. So this means African men displaced native men to create Garifuna people. Garifuna people also descend from African women too though.

The multiethnic's show that Belize is really among the most mixed places on earth! lol

apophis99942
08-29-2012, 04:04 PM
Those mitochondrial lineages vaguely remind me of the Brazilian Amazon according to Carvalho: a lot of L3 and L2 present alongside A. The presence of Y-DNA O is interesting to me, do you know which group there in Belize it might be most associated with?

Spark
08-29-2012, 05:38 PM
Well done, pgbk. B) We needed this.


Those mitochondrial lineages vaguely remind me of the Brazilian Amazon according to Carvalho: a lot of L3 and L2 present alongside A. The presence of Y-DNA O is interesting to me, do you know which group there in Belize it might be most associated with?

Y-DNA O2a1a is found almost exclusively among tribal peoples of South and Southeastern Asia -- Austronesian-influenced or proto-Austronesian peoples.

apophis99942
08-29-2012, 05:47 PM
If it's O2a1a-PK4, could it be indicative of some recent Chinese genetic contributions? See, I don't about that because I'm not sure how common the exogamy would be with other Belizeans.

My reference: http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t254755.html

pgbk87
08-30-2012, 02:01 PM
Those mitochondrial lineages vaguely remind me of the Brazilian Amazon according to Carvalho: a lot of L3 and L2 present alongside A. The presence of Y-DNA O is interesting to me, do you know which group there in Belize it might be most associated with?

O likely came from a small Chinese immigration to Belize.


Well done, pgbk. B) We needed this.

Y-DNA O2a1a is found almost exclusively among tribal peoples of South and Southeastern Asia -- Austronesian-influenced or proto-Austronesian peoples.

Thanks, I've tried to dig up as much info as possible.


If it's O2a1a-PK4, could it be indicative of some recent Chinese genetic contributions? See, I don't about that because I'm not sure how common the exogamy would be with other Belizeans.

My reference: http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t254755.html

I think different (but small) waves of Chinese immigrants have integrated at different lengths into Belizean society

AppalachianGumbo
09-01-2012, 02:31 AM
Subbed, so I can follow.

pgbk87
09-12-2012, 01:30 PM
Subbed, so I can follow.

Hey Jedi, I mean Gumbo lol

Don Felipe
02-18-2013, 09:02 PM
Good job! Already over 30 Belizeans tested sofar and included in your project. That's quite a good sample size already if you ask me. Nice touch also on providing the background details on each participant.

I got curious about Belizean AF results after seeing yours ;)
Of course the AF database might be quite limited still I noticed sofar you got more Honduras than Jamaican matches. Is this generally so and are there any Garifuna among them maybe?

pgbk87
02-20-2013, 12:43 AM
Good job! Already over 30 Belizeans tested sofar and included in your project. That's quite a good sample size already if you ask me. Nice touch also on providing the background details on each participant.

Thanks. I have found 3 more since I have posted this. I haven't received their genomes, so I can't add them. I am actually in the process of creating my own ADMIXTURE calculator. Hopefully one that focuses more on African and Amerind diversity, with North and South European references.


I got curious about Belizean AF results after seeing yours ;)
Of course the AF database might be quite limited still I noticed sofar you got more Honduras than Jamaican matches. Is this generally so and are there any Garifuna among them maybe?

Generally in terms of relatedness it's: Hondurans>Jamaicans>Caymanians>Guatemalans>Mexicans>Other Anglophone Caribbeans>Aframs>Everyone else


The Hondurans are mix of Garifunas, Bay Islanders and Mestizo-Triracials. Most of the Guatemalans are interestingly adoptees of mostly or completely native ancestry.

Don Felipe
02-20-2013, 10:13 PM
I am actually in the process of creating my own ADMIXTURE calculator. Hopefully one that focuses more on African and Amerind diversity, with North and South European references.

Cool! Keep me posted, when it's ready, bro. B)



Generally in terms of relatedness it's: Hondurans>Jamaicans>Caymanians>Guatemalans>Mexicans>Other Anglophone Caribbeans>Aframs>Everyone else


The Hondurans are mix of Garifunas, Bay Islanders and Mestizo-Triracials. Most of the Guatemalans are interestingly adoptees of mostly or completely native ancestry.

Fascinating as most of the people tested sofar seem to be Kriol or Garifuna, but still they get more Central American matches than Carribean ones.

pgbk87
02-27-2013, 02:49 PM
Fascinating as most of the people tested sofar seem to be Kriol or Garifuna, but still they get more Central American matches than Carribean ones.

Well I think this is because of being in Central America for 180-400 years, and intermixing with native and Mestizos (for Kriols)

Don Felipe
02-27-2013, 07:05 PM
Yeah must be. I don't know much about specifics of Belizean ethnogenesis. But i guess i figured the Kriols and Garifuna would be relative isolates kind of similar to Jamaican descendants in Panama. But they must have been longer established and also had more contacts with neighbouring populations.