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Rathna
03-19-2014, 01:29 AM
I consider Ian Logan a friend, but how is it possible to do this? He has written an interesting post on Rootsweb, where I don't write after my banishment of 2007, about the possible haplogroup of Richard III. His basal hg. is J1c2c. This:
J1c2c T146C G10685A T13281C A13933G
1 EF177422(Portugal) Pereira J1c2c 18-DEC-2006
A73G T146C G185A A188G A235G A263G C295T 315.1C C462T T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T4216C A4769G C7028T A8860G A10398G G10685A A11251G G11719A A12612G T13281C G13708A A13933G C14766T T14798C A15326G C15452A C16069T T16126C C16291T T16519C
2. GU949564(Russia) FTDNA J1c2c 09-MAR-2010
A73G T146C G185A A188G G228A A263G C295T 315.1C C462T T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T4216C A4769G C7028T A8860G A10398G G10685A A11251G G11719A A12612G T13281C G13708A A13933G C14766T T14798C A15326G C15452A C16069T T16126C G16213A T16519C
3. JQ703882 Behar J1c2c 07-APR-2012
A73G T146C G185A A188G A263G C295T 315.1C C462T T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T4216C A4769G C7028T G8027A A8860G A10398G G10685A A11251G G11719A A12612G T13281C G13708A A13933G C14766T A14769G T14798C A15326G C15452A C16069T T16126C T16519C
4. JQ797822 Pala J1c2c 22-MAY-2012
A73G G185A A188G A263G C295T 309.1C 315.1C C462T T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T4216C A4769G C7028T T8433C C8727T A8860G A10398G A11251G G11719A A12612G G13708A C14766T T14798C A15326G C15452A C16069T T16126C T16362C G16390A
5. KF161665(Denmark) Li J1c2c 01-OCT-2013
A73G T146C G185A A188G A263G C295T 315.1C C462T T489C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T4216C A4769G C7028T A7374G G8392A A8860G A10398G G10685A A11251G G11719A A12612G T13281C G13708A A13933G C14766T T14798C A15326G C15452A C16069T T16126C T16519C
Pala's sample (thus from Sardinia, Italy) lacks all the four mutations of J1c2c, thus what has to do with this subclade? It has the mutation A188G, thus it is J1c2, the ancestor of all the subclades. Perhaps it is true, as Ian Logan says, that J1c2c wandered around the Baltic, but certainly before wandered Southwards (Italy or nearby), and perhaps before somewhere else.

P.S. Actually it is classified J1c2j by the last Phylotree, and, given the numerous subclades of J1c2, only a large comparing of them can say where this haplogroup came from, but it is too late now for doing this.

JohnStorch
08-29-2015, 05:06 PM
The only post on the J1c2 board is a banned user? That's not good. Anybody else around to discuss this mtDNA haplogroup?

By way of introduction: My Maternal Line J1c2. My mother and maternal grandmother were born in the US, but my great grandmother in that line came from Lipusz, a village in Kościerzyna County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, in northern Poland. She and her ancestors were of the Kashubian ethnic group.

Táltos
08-29-2015, 05:26 PM
The only post on the J1c2 board is a banned user? That's not good. Anybody else around to discuss this mtDNA haplogroup?

By way of introduction: My Maternal Line J1c2. My mother and maternal grandmother were born in the US, but my great grandmother in that line came from Lipusz, a village in Kościerzyna County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, in northern Poland. She and her ancestors were of the Kashubian ethnic group.

Welcome to Anthrogenica!

Well there is at least one other member here who is mtDNA J1c2. http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?4792-Hg-Q-Ancient-DNA Sorry for the link to the Y DNA Q forum. If he comes on here, which isn't often he usually posts about Y DNA Q. Looking at his listed flags his direct maternal line is likely to be Russian.

Though not J1c2, Little bit, and Gray Fox belong to subclades of J1c and I'm sure would be able to help.

Gray Fox
08-29-2015, 05:59 PM
I'm not the most informed individual regarding mtDNA, but I can tell you a little bit about my own specific line.

Up until a few weeks ago I had assumed that the geographic region from which my J1c8 hailed was somewhere in Britain. However a 23&me relative sent me the following message..

"We share the same Maternal Haplogroup! I was born in Yugoslavia and my family immigrated to the USA in 1950 as refugees.
I belong to an ethnic group called "Donauschwaben." My native language is a dialect of German. My mother's name was Noll.

My maiden name was Diener."

Donauschwaben translates to "Danube Swabian". She's only a fifth cousin, but due to her recent immigration to the US and the fact that she is J1c8, I'm thinking this must be a fairly old mtDNA cousin.

So, I'm guessing my maternal J1c8 line must have originally hailed from southern Germany or potentially somewhere a bit more eastern, such as described above by my Donauschwaben cousin.

Hope this helps to paint a better picture of the J1c landscape!

Шад
08-29-2015, 07:52 PM
Hi all
I am J1c2
My mother and her ancestors (by direct mother line) were born and lived in the Voronezh region, Russia.

Details:
http://forensicdna.ru/db/the_tree/tx/hg/J/tx_J1c2_601233.htm

JohnStorch
09-06-2015, 08:40 PM
The following link does touch on the J1c subclades a little bit:

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J_mtDNA.shtml

Otherwise, just trying to follow the trail in wikipedia, I cannot find where the various branches split off, but (using my case as an example), the Kashubians descended from Pomeranian tribes, Pomeranians were a group of West Slavic tribes which, in turn, were a branch of Slavs and they derived from Proto-Indo-Europeans... and I think that would be mtDNA J. How all the subclades of that break down, I have no clue. I see from the linked article, there are even subclades of J1c2. Is there any publicly available testing that goes that far down the branches? Even mt Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA?

Tomoboy092
07-17-2017, 06:44 PM
I'm j1c2 and my furthest back maternal line ancestor was a Catherine Harry born in margam South Wales uk as far as I can trace back my haplogroup seems to be Welsh

Dream
12-05-2017, 06:32 PM
My female cousin just got the result J1c2. Her mom’s mom is also my grandma (my dad’s mom). My grandmother is from Munich, Germany and her family has ancestry in Bavaria all the way back to the 13th century. Of course that doesn’t mean that specific maternal line traces there....

fostert
01-06-2018, 07:29 PM
I have been identified by a mtDNA test at both FamilyTreeDNA and LivingDNA as J1c2e. On paper I can only trace my maternal line back to my 2nd great-grandmother Dokica (Daketsa) Basaraba (1872-1941), from the Bukovina region in Ukraine. However, from the amount of Balkans ethnicity some calculators give me, I suspect going a bit further back my maternal line might be found in Romania, or more SE Europe than Ukraine. This is just supposition really.

nicoleafot
02-19-2018, 09:08 PM
Hi all
I have not seen anyone posting with J1C2R subclade, so if anyone has any information- it would be greatly appreciated:)!

Dewsloth
02-28-2018, 07:12 PM
Descendants of Hester Mahieu (aka Hester le Mahieu or Esther Mahieu) have been tested and are J1c2.
She was born around 1584 in Cambridge (according to most records) and her parents were reportedly Walloon refugees originally from around Lille.
Her husband Francis and son John were Mayflower passengers, and she joined them in Plymouth with the couple's two other children, Jane and Jacob, arriving on the ship Anne in 1623.

Tomoboy092
06-12-2018, 04:26 AM
Recent update thanks to livingDNA Iv found out my maternal Haplogroup is j1c2b5 and is from margam South Wales UK as far back as I can trace and J1c2b5 seems to be British specific?

JoeyP37
07-03-2018, 06:44 PM
I am J1c2b and my matriline originates in County Waterford, Ireland. First matrilineal ancestor to be born in the US was my great-grandmother Alice Robishaw, whose mother, Nellie Ryan, was born in Lemybrien, Co. Waterford, in 1873.

claudefrancis
10-12-2018, 07:34 AM
Hi Everybody

today I receive the result of my mtdna full sequence and of my mother J1c2t complete.
My mother is born in Italy and of family is italian but now I watch about 1 distance
about UK ans Sweden.

pmokeefe
12-19-2018, 01:43 AM
My aunt (father's sister, so not my mtDNA) was tested at FTDNA as Haplogroup - J1c2.
The oldest person on her maternal line was Matilda Morris, there's a marriage record from 1818 in Tennessee to a James Lloyd, she was thought to be born in North Carolina in 1802. Morris and Lloyd are both Welsh names, I believe, but unfortunately that's all I know.

digital_noise
01-06-2019, 04:04 AM
J1c2p here. Have not spent much time checking out mtDNA honestly. At this point, I believe everyone was english

Шад
03-17-2019, 12:46 PM
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/J1c2/

DianaAva
05-28-2019, 06:32 AM
Hi,

My maternal haplogroup is also J1c2p. There's so little evidence online about it, it's quite frustrating. I don't have any British heritage in my maternal line. I am lucky enough to still have my maternal G-mother alive (she's 89) so I tested her to see if there are any other clues in her ancestry heritage estimations, but she came out as 90% Balkan, 10% Middle Eastern/Sephardi. So I'm pretty much lost at this point. On FTDNA I only have mtDNA - Matches at genetic distance 1 the closest. Their oldest known female ancestors are from everywhere from Poland, Sweden, UK and the States...

saul.llorente
12-19-2019, 10:15 AM
Hi everyone! Congrats for this fantastic forum Btw.
This is being so hard to estimate origins andcertainties about mtdna. Maybe because male supremacy in the past (Forced marriages,orphanhood, abandonments, etc...)
My mtdna is J1c2a and my direct mother line come from old Castille and central Iberia (proved by baptismal records, until my great great granmother (1831).

Regards

M-j1c2e
01-26-2020, 10:44 PM
Hi I am j1c2e , my maternal family comes from village Revna Czernowtiz Bukovina Austria. They did not speak Ukrainian but some other languages . They came to canada 1903. My question is what does the letter e represent.
I can't find anything about j1c2e except the Basques and Persia, also la hoya and Navarre have this same mitochondrial dna sequence.
Thanks

M-j1c2e
01-26-2020, 10:53 PM
Hello anyone else j1c2e mitochondrial dna?
I am new at this so any help understanding the breakdown of dna would be useful. I have looked at several sites but still not understanding.