PDA

View Full Version : Iberian Eurogenes K13 Results Compilation/ Recopilacion de Eurogenes K13 Ibericos.



estesiquesabe
03-13-2021, 10:38 PM
Iberian Eurogenes K13 Results Compilation/ Recopilacion de Eurogenes K13 Ibericos.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oJJvHUDZBtb3z3KWsv0d_wCqH007fj9WyEa7zrtnxuY/edit?usp=sharing

estesiquesabe
03-13-2021, 10:39 PM
kikillokikon,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0 .64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
Mask Salesman,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0 .73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
Shurmandril,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0 ,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
Noff,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.8 8,0.36,0,1.85
Gold_fenix(spaniard),42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3 .08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
Ibericus(spaniard),40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3. 30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
polaciones(Spanish),42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05 ,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
Gaita(Galician),37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97, 0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain),43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1 .32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
Shadogowah,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00, 0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
Padre_Gallop,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.0 0,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
Gallop,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00, 1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
Gaditanian,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1 .98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
Helen,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
Padre_Gixajo,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
Tío_abuelo Gixajo,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00, 0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
Defcon2,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
Spaniard20,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00, 1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
Gixajo,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
Primo_padre_Gixajo,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.2 3,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
Madre_Gixajo,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
Madre_Spaniard20,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03 ,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
Padre_Spaniard20,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60 ,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
Padre_Helen,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
F.A_(kit),45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
Mujer_primo_padre_Gixajo,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.5 3,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31

Portugueses

FilhoV,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Vasconcelos,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00, 0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Brás,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0 .94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Brás_girlfriend,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0 .45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Damiao,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Pedro_Rubén,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Padre_Pedro_Rubén,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.3 1,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Madre_Pedro_Rubén,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74 ,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Luso,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0 .33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Padre_Luso,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Madre_Luso,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04, 0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70

50/50 español/portugués.


MadMax,40.36,9.28,26.90,3.85,13.09,2.82,1.09,0.00, 0.00,0.39,0.00,2.24,0.00

mokordo
03-13-2021, 11:27 PM
Eltano70,29.96,13.12,18.87,8.52,12.82,1.03,0,1.21, 0.21,10.03,0,1.44,2.8
de]

¿Estás seguro que este es español?

mokordo
03-13-2021, 11:34 PM
Ya he visto como ordenar en clusters los samples, con los que tenía yo podía hacer 4 clusters, parecidos a las 4 ramas del PCA Euclidiano que posteé.

Tendré que incluir los nuevos que añadió Xabi.

¿Hago clusters por separado de españoles y portugueses?

Si quieres te paso el archivo de Plink por correo Xabi y añades los que yo no tenía tú mismo.

Mañana probaré con PAST, he probado varios PCAs, pero hay tantas formas de configurarlos que no sé cual es la que se suele usar en los PCAs que siempre se suelen usar para el K13.

¿Alguno sabe cual es la configuración exacta que se suele usar en los PCAs del K13? Más que nada es porque son los que estamos habituados a ver.

mokordo
03-13-2021, 11:45 PM
Creo que mezclando españoles y portugueses 4 clusters son los adecuados.

https://i.imgur.com/s3vsezX.png

Con 5 clusters, en el cluster 5 se queda solito Gaditanian.

https://i.imgur.com/t4E5T1K.png

mokordo
03-13-2021, 11:52 PM
Con dos clusters discrimina aproximadamente portugueses y españoles, pero no del todo bien.

https://i.imgur.com/j3CDBag.png

Con tres clusters el grupo pseudo-vascoide lo discrimina relativamente bien, y un poco pocha la separación portugués/español:

https://i.imgur.com/Q1XTBRE.png

mokordo
03-13-2021, 11:53 PM
Para que conste aquí también:

https://i.imgur.com/JGbH4V6.png

mokordo
03-13-2021, 11:57 PM
Pues vosotros diréis, mañana añadiré los individuos que añadió Xabi, y trato de hacer clusters de españoles y portugueses por separado, y luego cada cual puede hacer las referencias que quiera como crea oportuno y podemos ir probándolas.

O como veáis, por aquí nos veremos y vamos comentando.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 12:13 AM
Las bolitas de colores somos nosotros, cada color un país (salvo Madmax que tiene color propio) y cada letra del eje X es un componente, en orden desde el origen (North Atlantic hasta SSA)

he variado el Jitter al 50% para que no estemos todos apelotonados en una línea y no podamos discriminar colores.

https://i.imgur.com/Xnf73eV.png

Ruderico
03-14-2021, 12:24 AM
Seria interesante ver lo mismo pero en K15

mokordo
03-14-2021, 01:25 AM
Seria interesante ver lo mismo pero en K15

Como dijo Jack el destripador: "Vamos por partes".

Pero sí, podemos abrir otro thread con el k15.

Pero corremos el riesgo de dispersarnos.

O eso o repartimos tareas.

JJJ
03-14-2021, 08:54 AM
Como dijo Jack el destripador: "Vamos por partes".

Pero sí, podemos abrir otro thread con el k15.

Pero corremos el riesgo de dispersarnos.

O eso o repartimos tareas.

Necesitas numeros de kits o te vale con coordenadas k13?

alejandromb92
03-14-2021, 09:04 AM
kikillokikon,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0 .64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
Mask Salesman,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0 .73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
Shurmandril,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0 ,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
Eltano70,29.96,13.12,18.87,8.52,12.82,1.03,0,1.21, 0.21,10.03,0,1.44,2.8
Noff,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.8 8,0.36,0,1.85
Gold_fenix(spaniard),42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3 .08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
Ibericus(spaniard),40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3. 30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
polaciones(Spanish),42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05 ,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
Gaita(Galician),37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97, 0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain),43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1 .32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
Shadogowah,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00, 0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
Padre_Gallop,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.0 0,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
Gallop,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00, 1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
Gaditanian,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1 .98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
Helen,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
Padre_Gixajo,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
Tío_abuelo Gixajo,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00, 0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
Defcon2,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
Spaniard20,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00, 1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
Gixajo,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
Primo_padre_Gixajo,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.2 3,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
Madre_Gixajo,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
Madre_Spaniard20,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03 ,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
Padre_Spaniard20,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60 ,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
Padre_Helen,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
F.A_(kit),45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
Mujer_primo_padre_Gixajo,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.5 3,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31

Portugueses

FilhoV,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Vasconcelos,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00, 0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Brás,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0 .94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Brás_girlfriend,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0 .45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Damiao,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Pedro_Rubén,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Padre_Pedro_Rubén,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.3 1,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Madre_Pedro_Rubén,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74 ,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Luso,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0 .33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Padre_Luso,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Madre_Luso,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04, 0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70

50/50 español/portugués.


MadMax,40.36,9.28,26.90,3.85,13.09,2.82,1.09,0.00, 0.00,0.39,0.00,2,24,0.00

Llevo una hora tratando de modelarme con estas muestras pero no encuentro el error, no me deja.

:(

JJJ
03-14-2021, 09:12 AM
Target: Juan
Distance: 2.7622% / 2.76222687
43.1 Shadogowah
33.0 Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain)
10.1 Shurmandril
8.0 Gaditanian
5.8 Padre_Gallop

Shurmandril :lol:


Llevo una hora tratando de modelarme con estas muestras pero no encuentro el error, no me deja.

:(

Publica la coordenada personal que estás usando.

alejandromb92
03-14-2021, 09:16 AM
Target: Juan
Distance: 2.7622% / 2.76222687
43.1 Shadogowah
33.0 Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain)
10.1 Shurmandril
8.0 Gaditanian
5.8 Padre_Gallop

Shurmandril :lol:



Publica la coordenada personal que estás usando.

Alejandro,31.01,13.08,23.62,5.76,18.61,3.35,1.01,0 .00,0.46,0.00,0.00,1.73,1.38

JJJ
03-14-2021, 09:21 AM
Alejandro,31.01,13.08,23.62,5.76,18.61,3.35,1.01,0 .00,0.46,0.00,0.00,1.73,1.38

Target: Alejandro
Distance: 7.3380% / 7.33797771
33.6 Eltano70
29.7 Madre_Spaniard20
26.9 Gaditanian
9.8 Helen

Está bien, será fallo al poner el spreadsheet en source.

JJJ
03-14-2021, 09:39 AM
Tengo dos más de este foro.

(por)Endovelicus,39.97,7.43,23.43,3.59,17.3,3.21,0 ,0,0,0.59,0.01,0.16,4.3
(esp)lrp1985,41.00,10.57,30.54,3.94,10.93,0,0.32,0 ,0,0,0.38,0.31,2.01

mokordo
03-14-2021, 10:41 AM
Tengo dos más de este foro.

(por)Endovelicus,39.97,7.43,23.43,3.59,17.3,3.21,0 ,0,0,0.59,0.01,0.16,4.3
(esp)lrp1985,41.00,10.57,30.54,3.94,10.93,0,0.32,0 ,0,0,0.38,0.31,2.01

Ahora me voy a ir, luego a la tarde añadiré todos los nuevos.

Por ahora con las coordenadas vale. Lo de los números de kits sería para lo del proyecto de Gedmatch, para mandar e-mails a cada persona para tratar de conocer sus orígenes, y porque con números de kits se puede consultar gedmatch para sacar también cualquier otra coordenada del DOdecad, k15 o lo que haga falta.

A mí cuantos más números de kits me paséis, mejor, pero se tiene que hacer por PM, porque ha comentado Ruderico que no se pueden postear números de kits en el foro de forma pública (de otras personas) o te banean.

Todo lo que vaya acumulando, si alguno lo quiere utilizar se lo paso.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 11:15 AM
Publica la coordenada personal que estás usando.

Una coordenada de MadMax estaba mal, ponía "2,24" en vez de "2.24", así que contaba 14 coordenadas en vez de 13.

Creo que aquí están todos bien:


kikillokikon,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0 .64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
Mask Salesman,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0 .73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
Shurmandril,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0 ,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
Noff,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.8 8,0.36,0,1.85
Gold_fenix(spaniard),42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3 .08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
Ibericus(spaniard),40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3. 30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
polaciones(Spanish),42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05 ,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
Gaita(Galician),37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97, 0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain),43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1 .32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
Shadogowah,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00, 0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
Padre_Gallop,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.0 0,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
Gallop,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00, 1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
Gaditanian,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1 .98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
Helen,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
Padre_Gixajo,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
Tío_abuelo Gixajo,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00, 0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
Defcon2,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
Spaniard20,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00, 1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
Gixajo,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
Primo_padre_Gixajo,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.2 3,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
Madre_Gixajo,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
Madre_Spaniard20,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03 ,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
Padre_Spaniard20,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60 ,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
Padre_Helen,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
F.A_(kit),45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
Mujer_primo_padre_Gixajo,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.5 3,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31
FilhoV,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Vasconcelos,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00, 0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Brás,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0 .94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Brás_girlfriend,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0 .45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Damiao,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Pedro_Rubén,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Padre_Pedro_Rubén,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.3 1,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Madre_Pedro_Rubén,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Luso,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0 .33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Padre_Luso,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Madre_Luso,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04, 0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70
MadMax,40.36,9.28,26.90,3.85,13.09,2.82,1.09,0.00, 0.00,0.39,0.00,2.24,0.00

Se supone que habíamos quedado a las doce, pero todavía no ha llamado nadie, así que aprovecho el tiempo de espera hasta que me vaya.:beerchug:

estesiquesabe
03-14-2021, 11:45 AM
¿Estás seguro que este es español?

No, no es español. Lo quito, ya lo siento.

Ya he visto como ordenar en clusters los samples, con los que tenía yo podía hacer 4 clusters, parecidos a las 4 ramas del PCA Euclidiano que posteé.

Tendré que incluir los nuevos que añadió Xabi.

¿Hago clusters por separado de españoles y portugueses?

Si quieres te paso el archivo de Plink por correo Xabi y añades los que yo no tenía tú mismo.

Mañana probaré con PAST, he probado varios PCAs, pero hay tantas formas de configurarlos que no sé cual es la que se suele usar en los PCAs que siempre se suelen usar para el K13.

¿Alguno sabe cual es la configuración exacta que se suele usar en los PCAs del K13? Más que nada es porque son los que estamos habituados a ver.

No se usar Plink.

estesiquesabe
03-14-2021, 11:45 AM
Llevo una hora tratando de modelarme con estas muestras pero no encuentro el error, no me deja.

:(

Pues igual he puesto alguna coordenada mal, ya lo siento. Alguno quiere permisos en el drive?

estesiquesabe
03-14-2021, 12:11 PM
DibugitosXinos,34.79,10.34,27.34,2.46,18.38,3.11,0 ,0,0,0,0.86 ,2.27,0.43
Dr. Corgi(Andalucia),37.56,10.64,25.55,5.09,14.58,3.85 ,0,0.29,0,0,0,1.73,0.71
Secssi,44.02,7.56,30.17,0.47,11.8,2.79,0.07,1.51,1 .51,0,0.17,0,1.18
Moondust,38.31,11.79,32.21,0,12.32,0,2.05,0,0.62,0 ,0.06,1.24,1.31
Scotland,34.09,12.00,24.57,7.19,17.18,2.27,0,0.16, 0,0.51,0.69,1.33,0
4you,37.58,7.15,27.76,1.45,15.79,4.82,0,0.32,0,1.3 8,0.34,1.40,2.00

estesiquesabe
03-14-2021, 12:18 PM
Tsoukalicious(Cordoba),38.03,10.51,27.34,1.86,14.5 8,3.64,0,0.90,0,0,0.92,1.48,0.73

JJJ
03-14-2021, 12:45 PM
DibugitosXinos,34.79,10.34,27.34,2.46,18.38,3.11,0 ,0,0,0,0.86 ,2.27,0.43
Dr. Corgi(Andalucia),37.56,10.64,25.55,5.09,14.58,3.85 ,0,0.29,0,0,0,1.73,0.71
Secssi,44.02,7.56,30.17,0.47,11.8,2.79,0.07,1.51,1 .51,0,0.17,0,1.18
Moondust,38.31,11.79,32.21,0,12.32,0,2.05,0,0.62,0 ,0.06,1.24,1.31
Scotland,34.09,12.00,24.57,7.19,17.18,2.27,0,0.16, 0,0.51,0.69,1.33,0
4you,37.58,7.15,27.76,1.45,15.79,4.82,0,0.32,0,1.3 8,0.34,1.40,2.00

:D :D

JJJ
03-14-2021, 12:50 PM
Una coordenada de MadMax estaba mal, ponía "2,24" en vez de "2.24", así que contaba 14 coordenadas en vez de 13.

Creo que aquí están todos bien:


kikillokikon,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0 .64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
Mask Salesman,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0 .73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
Shurmandril,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0 ,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
Noff,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.8 8,0.36,0,1.85
Gold_fenix(spaniard),42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3 .08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
Ibericus(spaniard),40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3. 30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
polaciones(Spanish),42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05 ,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
Gaita(Galician),37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97, 0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain),43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1 .32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
Shadogowah,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00, 0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
Padre_Gallop,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.0 0,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
Gallop,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00, 1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
Gaditanian,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1 .98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
Helen,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
Padre_Gixajo,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
Tío_abuelo Gixajo,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00, 0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
Defcon2,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
Spaniard20,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00, 1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
Gixajo,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
Primo_padre_Gixajo,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.2 3,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
Madre_Gixajo,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
Madre_Spaniard20,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03 ,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
Padre_Spaniard20,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60 ,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
Padre_Helen,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
F.A_(kit),45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
Mujer_primo_padre_Gixajo,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.5 3,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31
FilhoV,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Vasconcelos,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00, 0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Brás,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0 .94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Brás_girlfriend,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0 .45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Damiao,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Pedro_Rubén,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Padre_Pedro_Rubén,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.3 1,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Madre_Pedro_Rubén,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Luso,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0 .33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Padre_Luso,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Madre_Luso,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04, 0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70
MadMax,40.36,9.28,26.90,3.85,13.09,2.82,1.09,0.00, 0.00,0.39,0.00,2.24,0.00

Se supone que habíamos quedado a las doce, pero todavía no ha llamado nadie, así que aprovecho el tiempo de espera hasta que me vaya.:beerchug:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-EthD0lSeHHrJJx8qMg8FIGuVEgZkUSl/view

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?23293-Fancy-G25-PCA-plot&p=757863

Pídele que te añada, yo creo que estarás en el anillo superior entre los vascos y franceses, escorado hacia los vascos.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 02:51 PM
No, no es español. Lo quito, ya lo siento.


No se usar Plink.

Yo del todo tampoco, pero es bastante intuitivo y se aprende sobre la marcha.

Una vez que tienes hecha correctamente una primera tabla es cuestión de seleccionar y probar diferentes opciones, por eso digo, puedo pasar a cualquiera el archivo de la tabla de ayer,abrirla con plink y luego ya es cuestión de ir añadiendo nuevos individuos.

O borrar los datos, añadir dos columnas , cambiar nombres de componentes y sirve para el k15.

Con el G25 no lo he probado, pero no quiero dispersarme hasta que no esté todo esto al menos encaminado.

No consigo encontrar PAST para descargarlo, no está en el enlace que guardé en su día de una universidad Noruega donde se podía descargar. En realidad creo que es muy similar al PLINK.

¿Alguno tiene un enlace fiable para descargárselo? Probé otros sitios pero no me lo baja, y tienen pinta de meter virus a cascoporro.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 02:59 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-EthD0lSeHHrJJx8qMg8FIGuVEgZkUSl/view

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?23293-Fancy-G25-PCA-plot&p=757863

Pídele que te añada, yo creo que estarás en el anillo superior entre los vascos y franceses, escorado hacia los vascos.

Yo quiero hacer mis propios PCAs cuando quiera y con lo que quiera yo, para contar con más información de como hacer las referencias, no quiero tener que depender de otros. Yo ya sé como ploteo en ese PCA, igual que mis padres, no es eso lo que quiero.

Creo que ya sé como emular ese PCA con PLINK, pero ahora me voy a echar una siesta, que estoy cansado.:biggrin1:

JJJ
03-14-2021, 03:00 PM
Yo del todo tampoco, pero es bastante intuitivo y se aprende sobre la marcha.

Una vez que tienes hecha correctamente una primera tabla es cuestión de seleccionar y probar diferentes opciones, por eso digo, puedo pasar a cualquiera el archivo de la tabla de ayer,abrirla con plink y luego ya es cuestión de ir añadiendo nuevos individuos.

O borrar los datos, añadir dos columnas , cambiar nombres de componentes y sirve para el k15.

Con el G25 no lo he probado, pero no quiero dispersarme hasta que no esté todo esto al menos encaminado.

No consigo encontrar PAST para descargarlo, no está en el enlace que guardé en su día de una universidad Noruega donde se podía descargar. En realidad creo que es muy similar al PLINK.

¿Alguno tiene un enlace fiable para descargárselo? Probé otros sitios pero no me lo baja, y tienen pinta de meter virus a cascoporro.

También andaba buscando el enlace ese de Noruega, y no es posible descargarlo desde ahí?

Quién sabe de esto es ruderico.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 05:21 PM
Estos son todos los que hay por el momento, creo.

Españoles.

kikillokikon,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0 .64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
Mask Salesman,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0 .73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
Shurmandril,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0 ,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
Noff,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.8 8,0.36,0,1.85
Gold_fenix(spaniard),42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3 .08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
Ibericus(spaniard),40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3. 30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
polaciones(Spanish),42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05 ,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
Gaita(Galician),37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97, 0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain),43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1 .32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
Shadogowah,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00, 0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
Padre_Gallop,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.0 0,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
Gallop,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00, 1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
Gaditanian,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1 .98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
Helen,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
Padre_Gixajo,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
Tío_abuelo Gixajo,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00, 0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
Defcon2,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
Spaniard20,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00, 1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
Gixajo,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
Primo_padre_Gixajo,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.2 3,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
Madre_Gixajo,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
Madre_Spaniard20,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03 ,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
Padre_Spaniard20,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60 ,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
Padre_Helen,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
F.A_(kit),45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
Mujer_primo_padre_Gixajo,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.5 3,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31
robert_tce,46.38,4.95,26.19,2.11,11.71,3.98,0.46,0 .16,0.00,0.00,0.55,1.7,1.81
irp1985,41.00,10.57,30.54,3.94,10.93,0.00,0.32,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.31,2.01


Portugueses.

FilhoV,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Vasconcelos,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00, 0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Brás,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0 .94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Brás_girlfriend,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0 .45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Damiao,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Pedro_Rubén,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Padre_Pedro_Rubén,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.3 1,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Madre_Pedro_Rubén,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Luso,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0 .33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Padre_Luso,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Madre_Luso,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04, 0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70
Endovelicus,39.97,7.43,23.43,3.59,17.3,3.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.59,0.01,0.16,4.3

50/50.

MadMax,40.36,9.28,26.90,3.85,13.09,2.82,1.09,0.00, 0.00,0.39,0.00,2.24,0.00

estesiquesabe
03-14-2021, 05:53 PM
Estos son todos los que hay por el momento, creo.

Españoles.

kikillokikon,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0 .64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
Mask Salesman,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0 .73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
Shurmandril,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0 ,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
Noff,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.8 8,0.36,0,1.85
Gold_fenix(spaniard),42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3 .08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
Ibericus(spaniard),40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3. 30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
polaciones(Spanish),42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05 ,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
Gaita(Galician),37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97, 0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain),43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1 .32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
Shadogowah,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00, 0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
Padre_Gallop,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.0 0,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
Gallop,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00, 1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
Gaditanian,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1 .98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
Helen,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
Padre_Gixajo,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
Tío_abuelo Gixajo,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00, 0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
Defcon2,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
Spaniard20,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00, 1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
Gixajo,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
Primo_padre_Gixajo,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.2 3,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
Madre_Gixajo,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
Madre_Spaniard20,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03 ,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
Padre_Spaniard20,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60 ,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
Padre_Helen,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
F.A_(kit),45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
Mujer_primo_padre_Gixajo,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.5 3,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31
robert_tce,46.38,4.95,26.19,2.11,11.71,3.98,0.46,0 .16,0.00,0.00,0.55,1.7,1.81
irp1985,41.00,10.57,30.54,3.94,10.93,0.00,0.32,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.31,2.01


Portugueses.

FilhoV,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Vasconcelos,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00, 0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Brás,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0 .94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Brás_girlfriend,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0 .45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Damiao,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Pedro_Rubén,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Padre_Pedro_Rubén,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.3 1,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Madre_Pedro_Rubén,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Luso,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0 .33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Padre_Luso,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Madre_Luso,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04, 0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70
Endovelicus,39.97,7.43,23.43,3.59,17.3,3.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.59,0.01,0.16,4.3

50/50.

MadMax,40.36,9.28,26.90,3.85,13.09,2.82,1.09,0.00, 0.00,0.39,0.00,2.24,0.00

Y algunos mas que he posteado mas arriba (y en el datasheet)

Estos son nuevos:
Vasco-Cantabro /Salamanca,41.18,10.46,30.08,5.78,9.35,1.61,0,0.08, 0,0,0.88,0.53,0
Lebrija_Sevilla,40.54,8.13,27.18,0,17.73,2.93,0,0. 32,0,1.25,0.98,0.66,0.27
Castellón,40.93,11.79,28.52,5.3,8.67,1.95,0.26,0.7 ,0.12,0.14,0.71,0.21,0.7
Castellón,46,6.91,24.8,5.14,12.25,1.63,0,1.36,0,0. 14,0,0.87,0.91
Castellón,42.39,12.61,25.51,1.97,12.7,2.2,0,0,0.39 ,0.95,0.34,0,0.95

estesiquesabe
03-14-2021, 05:59 PM
Vamos a intentar cambiar todos los nombres que tenemos por poblaciones. Por ejemplo Defcon, en vez de defcon llamarle Extremeño.
Y a los Portugueses igual, a ver si podemos separar por regiones

JJJ
03-14-2021, 06:44 PM
Yo quiero hacer mis propios PCAs cuando quiera y con lo que quiera yo, para contar con más información de como hacer las referencias, no quiero tener que depender de otros. Yo ya sé como ploteo en ese PCA, igual que mis padres, no es eso lo que quiero.

Creo que ya sé como emular ese PCA con PLINK, pero ahora me voy a echar una siesta, que estoy cansado.:biggrin1:

Y qué significa mi posición en ese pca? que soy español?

mokordo
03-14-2021, 07:18 PM
Y algunos mas que he posteado mas arriba (y en el datasheet)

Estos son nuevos:
Vasco-Cantabro /Salamanca,41.18,10.46,30.08,5.78,9.35,1.61,0,0.08, 0,0,0.88,0.53,0
Lebrija_Sevilla,40.54,8.13,27.18,0,17.73,2.93,0,0. 32,0,1.25,0.98,0.66,0.27
Castellón,40.93,11.79,28.52,5.3,8.67,1.95,0.26,0.7 ,0.12,0.14,0.71,0.21,0.7
Castellón,46,6.91,24.8,5.14,12.25,1.63,0,1.36,0,0. 14,0,0.87,0.91
Castellón,42.39,12.61,25.51,1.97,12.7,2.2,0,0,0.39 ,0.95,0.34,0,0.95

Maldito seas, acababa de meter los nuevos en la tabla.>:(

Los llamo Castellón1, 2 y 3. ¿No tienen nombre los pobres?Los orígenes son 100% de ahí supongo.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 07:34 PM
Hecha, 33 españoles.

https://i.imgur.com/86HwuRC.png

Portugueses actualizados, 12.

https://i.imgur.com/ZAFucCa.png

Jugueteo con estos antes de añadir resultados de varios kits que tengo apuntados.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 07:39 PM
Si véis algún error, decídmelo.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 07:51 PM
"datasheet", no puedo probarlo ahora mismo para ver si están bien, voy a cenar.:)


Shadogowah,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00, 0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
Padre_Gallop,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.0 0,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
Gallop,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00, 1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
Gaditanian,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1 .98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
Helen,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
Padre_Gixajo,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
Tío_abuelo Gixajo,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00, 0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
Defcon2,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
Spaniard20,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00, 1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
Gixajo,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
Primo_padre_Gixajo,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.2 3,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
Madre_Gixajo,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
Madre_Spaniard20,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03 ,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
Padre_Spaniard20,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60 ,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
Padre_Helen,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
F.A_(kit),45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
Mujer_primo_padre_Gixajo,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.5 3,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31
robert_tce,46.38,4.95,26.19,2.11,11.71,3.98,0.46,0 .16,0.00,0.00,0.55,1.7,1.81
irp1985,41.00,10.57,30.54,3.94,10.93,0.00,0.32,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.31,2.01
kikillokikon,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0 .64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
Mask Salesman,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0 .73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
Shurmandril,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0 ,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
Noff,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.8 8,0.36,0,1.85
Gold_fenix(spaniard),42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3 .08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
Ibericus(spaniard),40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3. 30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
polaciones(Spanish),42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05 ,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
Gaita(Galician),37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97, 0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain),43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1 .32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
Vasco/Cantabro/Salaman,41.18,10.46,30.08,5.78,9.35,1.61,0.00,0.08 ,0.00,0.00,0.88,0.53,0.00
Lebrija_Sevilla,40.54,8.13,27.18,0,17.73,2.93,0.00 ,0.32,0.00,1.25,0.98,0.66,0.27
Castellón1,40.93,11.79,28.52,5.3,8.67,1.95,0.26,0. 7,0.12,0.14,0.71,0.21,0.70
Castellón2,46,6.91,24.8,5.14,12.25,1.63,0.00,1.36, 0.00,0.14,0,0.87,0.91
Castellón3,42.39,12.61,25.51,1.97,12.7,2.2,0.00,0. 00,0.39,0.95,0.34,0.00,0.95


FilhoV,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Vasconcelos,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00, 0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Brás,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0 .94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Brás_girlfriend,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0 .45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Damiao,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Pedro_Rubén,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Padre_Pedro_Rubén,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.3 1,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Madre_Pedro_Rubén,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Luso,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0 .33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Padre_Luso,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Madre_Luso,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04, 0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70
Endovelicus,39.97,7.43,23.43,3.59,17.3,3.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.59,0.01,0.16,4.3


MadMax,40.36,9.28,26.90,3.85,13.09,2.82,1.09,0.00, 0.00,0.39,0.00,2.24,0.00

estesiquesabe
03-14-2021, 07:56 PM
Hecha, 33 españoles.

https://i.imgur.com/86HwuRC.png

Portugueses actualizados, 12.

https://i.imgur.com/ZAFucCa.png

Jugueteo con estos antes de añadir resultados de varios kits que tengo apuntados.

Muy buen trabajo; faltarian estos:
DibugitosXinos,34.79,10.34,27.34,2.46,18.38,3.11,0 ,0,0,0,0.86 ,2.27,0.43
Dr. Corgi(Andalucia),37.56,10.64,25.55,5.09,14.58,3.85 ,0,0.29,0,0,0,1.73,0.71
Secssi,44.02,7.56,30.17,0.47,11.8,2.79,0.07,1.51,1 .51,0,0.17,0,1.18
Moondust,38.31,11.79,32.21,0,12.32,0,2.05,0,0.62,0 ,0.06,1.24,1.31
Scotland,34.09,12.00,24.57,7.19,17.18,2.27,0,0.16, 0,0.51,0.69,1.33,0
4you,37.58,7.15,27.76,1.45,15.79,4.82,0,0.32,0,1.3 8,0.34,1.40,2.00
Tsoukalicious(Cordoba),38.03,10.51,27.34,1.86,14.5 8,3.64,0,0.90,0,0,0.92,1.48,0.73

mokordo
03-14-2021, 08:27 PM
Muy buen trabajo; faltarian estos:
DibugitosXinos,34.79,10.34,27.34,2.46,18.38,3.11,0 ,0,0,0,0.86 ,2.27,0.43
Dr. Corgi(Andalucia),37.56,10.64,25.55,5.09,14.58,3.85 ,0,0.29,0,0,0,1.73,0.71
Secssi,44.02,7.56,30.17,0.47,11.8,2.79,0.07,1.51,1 .51,0,0.17,0,1.18
Moondust,38.31,11.79,32.21,0,12.32,0,2.05,0,0.62,0 ,0.06,1.24,1.31
Scotland,34.09,12.00,24.57,7.19,17.18,2.27,0,0.16, 0,0.51,0.69,1.33,0
4you,37.58,7.15,27.76,1.45,15.79,4.82,0,0.32,0,1.3 8,0.34,1.40,2.00
Tsoukalicious(Cordoba),38.03,10.51,27.34,1.86,14.5 8,3.64,0,0.90,0,0,0.92,1.48,0.73

:mad2:

mokordo
03-14-2021, 08:36 PM
Actualizo...


Shadogowah,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00, 0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
Padre_Gallop,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.0 0,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
Gallop,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00, 1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
Gaditanian,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1 .98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
Helen,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
Padre_Gixajo,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
Tío_abuelo Gixajo,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00, 0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
Defcon2,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
Spaniard20,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00, 1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
Gixajo,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
Primo_padre_Gixajo,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.2 3,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
Madre_Gixajo,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
Madre_Spaniard20,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03 ,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
Padre_Spaniard20,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60 ,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
Padre_Helen,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
F.A_(kit),45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
Mujer_primo_padre_Gixajo,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.5 3,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31
robert_tce,46.38,4.95,26.19,2.11,11.71,3.98,0.46,0 .16,0.00,0.00,0.55,1.7,1.81
irp1985,41.00,10.57,30.54,3.94,10.93,0.00,0.32,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.31,2.01
kikillokikon,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0 .64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
Mask Salesman,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0 .73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
Shurmandril,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0 ,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
Noff,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.8 8,0.36,0,1.85
Gold_fenix(spaniard),42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3 .08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
Ibericus(spaniard),40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3. 30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
polaciones(Spanish),42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05 ,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
Gaita(Galician),37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97, 0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain),43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1 .32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
Vasco/Cantabro/Salaman,41.18,10.46,30.08,5.78,9.35,1.61,0.00,0.08 ,0.00,0.00,0.88,0.53,0.00
Lebrija_Sevilla,40.54,8.13,27.18,0,17.73,2.93,0.00 ,0.32,0.00,1.25,0.98,0.66,0.27
Castellón1,40.93,11.79,28.52,5.3,8.67,1.95,0.26,0. 7,0.12,0.14,0.71,0.21,0.70
Castellón2,46,6.91,24.8,5.14,12.25,1.63,0.00,1.36, 0.00,0.14,0,0.87,0.91
Castellón3,42.39,12.61,25.51,1.97,12.7,2.2,0.00,0. 00,0.39,0.95,0.34,0.00,0.95
DibugitosXinos,34.79,10.34,27.34,2.46,18.38,3.11,0 .00,0.00,0,0.00,0.86,2.27,0.43
Dr. Corgi(Andalucia),37.56,10.64,25.55,5.09,14.58,3.85 ,0.00,0.29,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.73,0.71
Secssi,44.02,7.56,30.17,0.47,11.8,2.79,0.07,1.51,1 .51,0.00,0.17,0.00,1.18
Moondust,38.31,11.79,32.21,0.00,12.32,0.00,2.05,0. 00,0.62,0,0.06,1.24,1.31
Scotland,34.09,12.00,24.57,7.19,17.18,2.27,0.00,0. 16,0.00,0.51,0.69,1.33,0.00
4you,37.58,7.15,27.76,1.45,15.79,4.82,0.00,0.32,0. 00,1.38,0.34,1.40,2.00
Tsoukalicious(Cordoba),38.03,10.51,27.34,1.86,14.5 8,3.64,0.00,0.90,0.00,0.00,0.92,1.48,0.73



FilhoV,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Vasconcelos,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00, 0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Brás,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0 .94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Brás_girlfriend,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0 .45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Damiao,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Pedro_Rubén,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Padre_Pedro_Rubén,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.3 1,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Madre_Pedro_Rubén,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Luso,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0 .33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Padre_Luso,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Madre_Luso,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04, 0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70
Endovelicus,39.97,7.43,23.43,3.59,17.3,3.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.59,0.01,0.16,4.3


MadMax,40.36,9.28,26.90,3.85,13.09,2.82,1.09,0.00, 0.00,0.39,0.00,2.24,0.00

Si puedes quítale los espacios en blanco antes de pasármelos.:)

El Scotland ese es un poco raruno...

estesiquesabe
03-14-2021, 08:44 PM
Actualizo...


Shadogowah,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00, 0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
Padre_Gallop,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.0 0,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
Gallop,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00, 1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
Gaditanian,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1 .98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
Helen,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
Padre_Gixajo,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
Tío_abuelo Gixajo,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00, 0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
Defcon2,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
Spaniard20,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00, 1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
Gixajo,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
Primo_padre_Gixajo,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.2 3,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
Madre_Gixajo,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
Madre_Spaniard20,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03 ,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
Padre_Spaniard20,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60 ,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
Padre_Helen,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
F.A_(kit),45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
Mujer_primo_padre_Gixajo,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.5 3,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31
robert_tce,46.38,4.95,26.19,2.11,11.71,3.98,0.46,0 .16,0.00,0.00,0.55,1.7,1.81
irp1985,41.00,10.57,30.54,3.94,10.93,0.00,0.32,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.31,2.01
kikillokikon,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0 .64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
Mask Salesman,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0 .73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
Shurmandril,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0 ,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
Noff,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.8 8,0.36,0,1.85
Gold_fenix(spaniard),42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3 .08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
Ibericus(spaniard),40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3. 30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
polaciones(Spanish),42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05 ,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
Gaita(Galician),37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97, 0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
Spaniard2.0_frnd(Spain),43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1 .32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
Vasco/Cantabro/Salaman,41.18,10.46,30.08,5.78,9.35,1.61,0.00,0.08 ,0.00,0.00,0.88,0.53,0.00
Lebrija_Sevilla,40.54,8.13,27.18,0,17.73,2.93,0.00 ,0.32,0.00,1.25,0.98,0.66,0.27
Castellón1,40.93,11.79,28.52,5.3,8.67,1.95,0.26,0. 7,0.12,0.14,0.71,0.21,0.70
Castellón2,46,6.91,24.8,5.14,12.25,1.63,0.00,1.36, 0.00,0.14,0,0.87,0.91
Castellón3,42.39,12.61,25.51,1.97,12.7,2.2,0.00,0. 00,0.39,0.95,0.34,0.00,0.95
DibugitosXinos,34.79,10.34,27.34,2.46,18.38,3.11,0 .00,0.00,0,0.00,0.86,2.27,0.43
Dr. Corgi(Andalucia),37.56,10.64,25.55,5.09,14.58,3.85 ,0.00,0.29,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.73,0.71
Secssi,44.02,7.56,30.17,0.47,11.8,2.79,0.07,1.51,1 .51,0.00,0.17,0.00,1.18
Moondust,38.31,11.79,32.21,0.00,12.32,0.00,2.05,0. 00,0.62,0,0.06,1.24,1.31
Scotland,34.09,12.00,24.57,7.19,17.18,2.27,0.00,0. 16,0.00,0.51,0.69,1.33,0.00
4you,37.58,7.15,27.76,1.45,15.79,4.82,0.00,0.32,0. 00,1.38,0.34,1.40,2.00
Tsoukalicious(Cordoba),38.03,10.51,27.34,1.86,14.5 8,3.64,0.00,0.90,0.00,0.00,0.92,1.48,0.73



FilhoV,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Vasconcelos,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00, 0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Brás,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0 .94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Brás_girlfriend,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0 .45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Damiao,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Pedro_Rubén,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Padre_Pedro_Rubén,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.3 1,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Madre_Pedro_Rubén,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Luso,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0 .33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Padre_Luso,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Madre_Luso,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04, 0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70
Endovelicus,39.97,7.43,23.43,3.59,17.3,3.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.59,0.01,0.16,4.3


MadMax,40.36,9.28,26.90,3.85,13.09,2.82,1.09,0.00, 0.00,0.39,0.00,2.24,0.00

Si puedes quítale los espacios en blanco antes de pasármelos.:)

El Scotland ese es un poco raruno...

Perdón jaja. Es de andalucia, tiene a sus padres testados. A ver si le puedo pedir sus k13s

mokordo
03-14-2021, 09:01 PM
Perdón jaja. Es de andalucia, tiene a sus padres testados. A ver si le puedo pedir sus k13s

No, está bien, no es tan raro.

Andaluces son los que más hay para hacer una referencia regional maja, pero no suficientes para hacer por provincias aún.

Portugueses igual, con 12 se puede ir haciendo una referencia general, creo yo.

Voy a meterme a ver si consigo un PCA "reconocible".

mokordo
03-14-2021, 09:03 PM
Y qué significa mi posición en ese pca? que soy español?

Puedo asegurar, que es practicamente seguro que no eres sueco.

JJJ
03-14-2021, 09:05 PM
Puedo asegurar, que es practicamente seguro que no eres sueco.

Haz un PCA donde diga que soy español como acostumbran hacer.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 09:11 PM
Vamos a intentar cambiar todos los nombres que tenemos por poblaciones. Por ejemplo Defcon, en vez de defcon llamarle Extremeño.
Y a los Portugueses igual, a ver si podemos separar por regiones

Tendríamos que aclarar crierios, yo propondría hacer referencias regionales con solo aquellos que tengan origen mayoritario en cada región, o mayoritariamente de una provincia/región y algo en de provincia vecina, a poder ser(4 abuelos de una región o 3 abuelos de una región y 1 abuelo de una región vecina)

Los demás, incluido yo, nos vamos directos por ahora a una referencia general.

De los de orígenes desconocidos o no del todo claros, lo mismo, salvo que sus resultados sean claramente de una región o plotee en el cluster de alguna de ellas de forma clara, igual pueden ser rescatados para alguna referencia regional.

De todas formas, ahí están los samples, cada cual en su casa que haga las medias con las referencias que le de la gana.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 09:17 PM
Haz un PCA donde diga que soy español como acostumbran hacer.

Si me dejáis de una vez meterme con ello, igual consigo hacerlo algun año, so pesaus!!!

Probaré con el datasheet completo del k13 a ver si consigo algo similar a lo de siempre. O al menos, parecido...:P

Pero antes cotillearé los PCAs de otros a ver si consigo alguna pista sin preguntar nada a nadie.

Lo de ordenar por clusters de distancias entre samples numerándolos ya sé hacerlo, pero los otros son más intuitivos para ver agrupaciones, ¿No?

JJJ
03-14-2021, 09:19 PM
Si me dejáis de una vez meterme con ello, igual consigo hacerlo algun año, so pesaus!!!

Probaré con el datasheet completo del k13 a ver si consigo algo similar a lo de siempre. O al menos, parecido...:P

Pero antes cotillearé los PCAs de otros a ver si consigo alguna pista sin preguntar nada a nadie.

Lo de ordenar por clusters de distancias entre samples numerándolos ya sé hacerlo, pero los otros son más intuitivos para ver agrupaciones, ¿No?

Hice yo uno tranquilo, no hacen falta programas complejos para hacerlo, si hacen falta cambios o añadir cosas dígame.

https://i.imgur.com/zogg2S4.png

mokordo
03-14-2021, 10:28 PM
......


Haz un PCA donde diga que soy español como acostumbran hacer.

Dos posibles variaciones. No tengo más que los averages del datasheet para usar como referencias.No los he adornado mucho, dar colores a los plots de cada refgerencia según grupos y nada más.

Opiniones.

https://i.imgur.com/ZfgFeKI.png

https://i.imgur.com/nyC87K1.png

mokordo
03-14-2021, 10:32 PM
Tened en cuenta que no he metido todo el datasheet, más que nada porque es un coñazo cambiar colores, y sobre todo porque salen las letras tan pequeñas que apenas se leen, pero he hecho la prueba (sin cambiar parámetros para darle una apariencia y orientación más parecida a la que estamos acostumbrados).

Así a pelo el datasheet completo sin cambiar nada sale así:

https://i.imgur.com/Ftzzsqq.png

En otro momento jugaré con él, pero ahora me basta con saber como hacerlo.:)

mokordo
03-14-2021, 10:33 PM
Cuantas más referencias, la forma y orientación van cambiando, no os asustéis.

Yo creo que la cosa marcha.¿No?

estesiquesabe
03-14-2021, 10:52 PM
De locos gixajo, al final ya veras como defcon te estará todo el día pidiendo PCAs :lol:

JJJ
03-14-2021, 11:15 PM
De locos gixajo, al final ya veras como defcon te estará todo el día pidiendo PCAs :lol:

Si, bueno, pero me gustaría trastrear por mí mismo, a ser posible con past4 también.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 11:17 PM
De locos gixajo, al final ya veras como defcon te estará todo el día pidiendo PCAs :lol:

5 Euros por PCA, que pida los que quiera.:biggrin1:

No, en serio, es fácil hacer estos, pero habrá que mejorarlos.

Yo creo que con esas referencias base en el PCA, va que chuta para españoles y portugueses,¿No?

Otro día haré un PCA con esa base y con todos los samples que hemos recopilado hasta ahora. Al que se salga del cluster general le pegamos entre todos.

Me quedan añadir los kits que tengo apuntados, y buscar más.

mokordo
03-14-2021, 11:29 PM
Si, bueno, pero me gustaría trastrear por mí mismo, a ser posible con past4 también.

Oye, si tienes un link para descargar PAST pásamelo, el que tenía yo guardado ya no sirve.

Por lo que me ha parecido ver, el PAST y el PLINK en cuestión de PCAs son muy similares.

Es muy fácil, ya verás, con PLINK al menos una vez que haces la tabla, lo demás es configurar opciones y elegir lo que más te guste.

Es posible que todo lo que he hecho ayer y hoy sea muy mejorable, pero ya van saliendo cosas.

JJJ
03-14-2021, 11:32 PM
Oye, si tienes un link para descargar PAST pásamelo, el que tenía yo guardado ya no sirve.

Por lo que me ha parecido ver, el PAST y el PLINK en cuestión de PCAs son muy similares.

Cuando se conecte Ruderico le preguntamos que no sé.

Luso
03-14-2021, 11:40 PM
Solo Portugueses:

Target: Luso
Distance: 321.0046% / 3.21004573
53.4 Padre_Luso
38.2 Madre_Pedro_Rubén
8.4 Pedro_Rubén

Con Espanoles:

Target: Luso
Distance: 263.8751% / 2.63875127
41.0 Pedro_Rubén
22.2 Primo_padre_Gixajo
18.8 Spaniard20
12.4 MaskSalesman
5.6 robert_tce

mokordo
03-14-2021, 11:42 PM
Si, bueno, pero me gustaría trastrear por mí mismo, a ser posible con past4 también.

Ahora que me acuerdo, lo del mapa ese que posteaste, en PLINK hay una opción de juntar referencias, coordenadas geográficas y Google Maps que puede servir para hacer mapas de ese estilo.

Y hace tiempo te pasé también este enlace:

https://www.giscloud.com/

Donde si te registras (aunque igual no es gratis) puedes hacer mapas del tipo que quieres:

https://editor.giscloud.com/map/1220111/walid-euclidean-g25map

Pedro Ruben
03-14-2021, 11:57 PM
Solo Portugueses:

Target: Luso
Distance: 321.0046% / 3.21004573
53.4 Padre_Luso
38.2 Madre_Pedro_Rubén
8.4 Pedro_Rubén

Con Espanoles:

Target: Luso
Distance: 263.8751% / 2.63875127
41.0 Pedro_Rubén
22.2 Primo_padre_Gixajo
18.8 Spaniard20
12.4 MaskSalesman
5.6 robert_tce

41.0 Pedro_Rubén a lot of Pedro :P

Ruderico
03-15-2021, 10:20 AM
Oye, si tienes un link para descargar PAST pásamelo, el que tenía yo guardado ya no sirve.

Por lo que me ha parecido ver, el PAST y el PLINK en cuestión de PCAs son muy similares.

Es muy fácil, ya verás, con PLINK al menos una vez que haces la tabla, lo demás es configurar opciones y elegir lo que más te guste.

Es posible que todo lo que he hecho ayer y hoy sea muy mejorable, pero ya van saliendo cosas.

intenta este

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yMO_8v3tfAun_5IUkLSN-8zOiGiZ0jkQ/view?usp=sharing

mokordo
03-15-2021, 01:54 PM
intenta este

url]

I must be retarded, PLINK is PAST, I downloaded your PAST and it opens PLINK...:D

Same version, same all.

So fantastic.

mokordo
03-15-2021, 08:20 PM
41 españoles y 12 portugueses.

¿Estáis bien colocados así?

https://i.imgur.com/4JGgtWx.png

Andour
03-15-2021, 09:01 PM
If you are interested, here below the K13 results of my Portuguese son-in-law. From Minho, close to the Galician border.

AR_Minho,37.94,14.02,25.17,2.18,12.52,4.18,0.74,0, 0.14,0,0.23,1.62,1.26

Sorry for reacting a bit late...

mokordo
03-15-2021, 09:18 PM
If you are interested, here below the K13 results of my Portuguese son-in-law. From Minho, close to the Galician border.

AR_Minho,37.94,14.02,25.17,2.18,12.52,4.18,0.74,0, 0.14,0,0.23,1.62,1.26

Sorry for reacting a bit late...

Merci beaucoup, un nouvel échantillon est toujours bienvenu.

Il n'est jamais trop tard pour bien faire.(Peut etre c'est une traduction trop littérale du proverbe espagnol "Nunca es tarde si la dicha es buena")

Il est déjà inclus dans le PCA. Pensez-vous que sa position est correcte?


https://i.imgur.com/6Fa2nbC.png

RCO
03-15-2021, 10:03 PM
80% Português Colonial + Germânico (Silesia) + Lombardia + Inglês + Ameríndio + Africano
RCO,35.61,15.5,22.17,0.84,13.52,1.5,0.65,0, 0.16,4.22,1.57,2.71,1.55

North_Atlantic 35.61*
Baltic 15.5*
West_Med 22.17*
West_Asian 0.84*
East_Med 13.52*
Red_Sea 1.5
South_Asian 0.65
East_Asian - * **
Siberian 0.16*
Amerindian 4.22*
Oceanian 1.57*
Northeast_African 2.71*
Sub-Saharan 1.55

Ruderico
03-15-2021, 10:05 PM
Merci beaucoup, un nouvel échantillon est toujours bienvenu.

Il n'est jamais trop tard pour bien faire.(Peut etre c'est une traduction trop littérale du proverbe espagnol "Nunca es tarde si la dicha es buena")

Il est déjà inclus dans le PCA. Pensez-vous que sa position est correcte?



Ph2ter tiene un PCA de datos de K13 con centenas de usuarios aquí https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?14617-Eurogenes-K13-PCA-Megaplot
Hay aun otro igual, pero de K15

Edit: Clusters
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKkmLHKY/clusters.png


con correlaciones
https://i.postimg.cc/MH7F5ydX/clusters-correl.png

mokordo
03-15-2021, 10:30 PM
Ph2ter tiene un PCA de datos de K13 con centenas de usuarios aquí https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?14617-Eurogenes-K13-PCA-Megaplot
Hay aun otro igual, pero de K15

R]

Hay tantas posibilidades de configurar todas las opciones, que uno tiene que elgir bien cual presentar.

Pero su uso es bastante intuitivo y sencillo ¿No crees?.

Un francés nos ha pasado otro individuo portugués ya está incluido en la lista de coordenadas y en la tabla correspondiente para usar en PLINK/PAST.

mokordo
03-15-2021, 10:35 PM
80% Português Colonial + Germânico (Silesia) + Lombardia + Inglês + Ameríndio + Africano
RCO,35.61,15.5,22.17,0.84,13.52,1.5,0.65,0, 0.16,4.22,1.57,2.71,1.55

5

Eres muy cercano a españoles y portugueses, pero comprenderás que no podamos usar tus coordenadas para hacer estas referencias.

RCO
03-15-2021, 11:22 PM
Los sistemas siempre muestran más al norte y al este que la Península Ibérica debido a la mezcla germánica y amerindia.
Valeu amigo, até a próxima !

Andour
03-16-2021, 01:22 AM
Merci beaucoup, un nouvel échantillon est toujours bienvenu.

Il n'est jamais trop tard pour bien faire.(Peut etre c'est une traduction trop littérale du proverbe espagnol "Nunca es tarde si la dicha es buena")

Il est déjà inclus dans le PCA. Pensez-vous que sa position est correcte?


https://i.imgur.com/6Fa2nbC.png

Sí, la posición parece correcta. Siempre aterriza bastante al norte del bloque ibérico. ¿Quizás por su fracción báltica (la más alta de toda la lista ibérica, creo)? ¿Una herencia sueva, tal vez? ¿O hay algo de verdad en estas historias de vikingos en Povoa de Varzim? No sé...

Ruderico
03-16-2021, 07:14 AM
Sí, la posición parece correcta. Siempre aterriza bastante al norte del bloque ibérico. ¿Quizás por su fracción báltica (la más alta de toda la lista ibérica, creo)? ¿Una herencia sueva, tal vez? ¿O hay algo de verdad en estas historias de vikingos en Povoa de Varzim? No sé...

Es verdad que hubo asentamiento 'vikingo' en Póvoa y hay pruebas culturales como las runas locales (link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siglas_poveiras)), etc, pero fue algo exclusivamente local hay ~1100 años. Me parece poco probable que tenga cualquier tipo de impacto hoy, con todos los movimientos poblacionales que hubo desde entonces especialmente en el litoral del norte de Portugal. Si no estoy en error tu yerno es de Melgaço, no? Melgaço es un pueblo ya en el interior de Minho, no es una región que tenga mucho contacto con los pueblos del litoral, generalmente la tendencia fue del interior fue de "donar" personas, y el litoral de recibirlas. Es posible que él tenga heredado mayor aporte de origen germánico, creo que no seria algo extraño para una persona del interior de Alto Minho.

estesiquesabe
03-17-2021, 03:38 PM
Castilla/Aragon,40.89,10.96,29.34,2.59,13.46,0,0.45,0,0.92, 0,0.23,1.17,0
Valladolid,38.38,14.1,25.95,0,12.97,4.9,0,0,0,0.73 ,0.75,2.19,0
Cantabria,42.08,13.24,28.76,0.5,12.28,0.2,0.52,0,0 .71,0.56,0,0.87,0.28
Aragones/Madrileño/Balear/Valenciano,39.11,12.88,28.57,0.26,13.45,3.98,0,0,0 ,0,0.82,0.93,0

mokordo
03-17-2021, 06:41 PM
Castilla/Aragon,40.89,10.96,29.34,2.59,13.46,0,0.45,0,0.92, 0,0.23,1.17,0
Valladolid,38.38,14.1,25.95,0,12.97,4.9,0,0,0,0.73 ,0.75,2.19,0
Cantabria,42.08,13.24,28.76,0.5,12.28,0.2,0.52,0,0 .71,0.56,0,0.87,0.28
Aragones/Madrileño/Balear/Valenciano,39.11,12.88,28.57,0.26,13.45,3.98,0,0,0 ,0,0.82,0.93,0

Voy a mirar 4 kits que tengo localizados y añado mis 4 y tus 4.

Si quieres te paso por e-mail la tabla (de open office pero puedes abrirla con excell) y el documento de texto con las coordenadas, para que las uses tú .

Si alguien quiere estas dos cosas, que me pase su email y se lo paso igualmente.

estesiquesabe
03-17-2021, 06:47 PM
Voy a mirar 4 kits que tengo localizados y añado mis 4 y tus 4.

Si quieres te paso por e-mail la tabla (de open office pero puedes abrirla con excell) y el documento de texto con las coordenadas, para que las uses tú .

Si alguien quiere estas dos cosas, que me pase su email y se lo paso igualmente.
Perfecto, yo ire añadiendo bastantes mas kits, pero es cuestión de tiempo. Poco a poco, creo una buena forma de sacar kits es en los videos de youtube, si alguien quiere puede preguntar por sus K13s y K15s y una procedencia, aunque yo no lo he hecho.

mokordo
03-17-2021, 07:26 PM
Perfecto, yo ire añadiendo bastantes mas kits, pero es cuestión de tiempo. Poco a poco, creo una buena forma de sacar kits es en los videos de youtube, si alguien quiere puede preguntar por sus K13s y K15s y una procedencia, aunque yo no lo he hecho.

Falta de añadir los orígenes de los que sepamos, abre los archivos a ver si la configuración no ha cambiado al convertirse en archivos de microsoft office.

El archivo DAT es para abrir con el PLINK/PAST, pero como hice un montón diferentes para los PCAs, no sé cual te he pasado exactamente, les puse nombres parecidos.

Si hay algún problema me dices.

estesiquesabe
03-17-2021, 07:57 PM
Falta de añadir los orígenes de los que sepamos, abre los archivos a ver si la configuración no ha cambiado al convertirse en archivos de microsoft office.

El archivo DAT es para abrir con el PLINK/PAST, pero como hice un montón diferentes para los PCAs, no sé cual te he pasado exactamente, les puse nombres parecidos.

Si hay algún problema me dices.
Esta perfecto, gracias, te parece bien si hago la tabla de excel publica?

mokordo
03-17-2021, 08:13 PM
Esta perfecto, gracias, te parece bien si hago la tabla de excel publica?

Yo preferiría que mejor que nos la pasemos por correo entre nosotros o compartirla de otra forma, con el trabajo que nos estamos tomando si la hacemos pública todos los que se asomen por aquí se van a aprovechar de nosotros.

Pásasela a quien creas conveniente,esa tabla es tuya también, pero eso, mejor por medios en la que no se exponga públicamente todo.

O también puedes subirla "a la nube" y compartir el link al documento en privado entre nosotros.

(que malo soy)

mokordo
03-17-2021, 08:19 PM
Esta perfecto, gracias, te parece bien si hago la tabla de excel publica?

Cuando tengamos las referencias ya las haremos públicas.

Por cierto, se pueden ir haciendo ya varias referencias regionales españolas (y una buena portuguesa con 13 individuos) con esos samples que tenemos.

Para PCAs de PAST, pones poblaciones de referencia del datasheet, luego cortas y pegas en la tabla los individuos que quieras plotear, y en multivariate tienes varias opciones de PCAs.

COn esa misma tabla haces PCAs de árbol diferentes y listas de clusters numerados.

Luego puedes probar diferentes configuraciones a tu gusto.

Todo eso si quieres consultarlo para desechar referencias que veas un poco fuera de norma, si no, directamente te puedes fiar de los orígenes que nos dan.

mokordo
04-08-2021, 01:06 PM
Bueno, vamos dejando por aquí las primeras que voy haciendo.

La portuguesa es provisional, porque tengo un montón de K13 portugueses que me pasaron amablemente, y apenas he pasado unos pocos individuos al formato de coordenadas de vahaduo.


Portugal(n=13),38.33,11.17,25.67,2.35,13.59,3.31,0 .20,0.15,0.27,0.56,0.29,2.20,1.91

Y las primeras provinciales o regionales españolas (voy por orden alfabético), alguna solo tiene dos. En la alavesa al final no añadí a mi madre, ni otro sample individual que encontré a través de Gedmatch.


Asturias(n=3),41.82,10.32,27.78,1.66,11.54,3.32,0. 00,0.67,0.26,0.26,0.90,1.04,0.43
Álava(n=4),48.52,9.15,29.17,0.44,8.44,1.69,0.34,0. 39,0.04,0.29,0.35,0.61,0.59
Andalucía_Oriental(n=6),38.57,9.77,29.37,1.82,12.2 2,4.53,0.47,0.16,0.04,0.28,0.43,1.01,1.34
Andalucía_Occidental(n=4),38.89,9.72,27.55,2.66,13 .74,2.94,0.14,0.58,0.43,0.28,0.36,1.70,1.03
Cantabria(n=2),42.14,11.70,29.22,0.25,11.48,2.13,0 .26,0.00,0.36,0.50,0.39,1.46,0.14
Castilla_y_León(n=4),39.68,11.09,26.59,1.92,13.90, 2.69,0.29,0.14,0.12,0.55,0.53,1.96,0.54

A ver si os funcionan bien, aún puedo hacer alguna más.

Si alguno puede pasarme al menos un gallego (solo tengo uno), y mejor dos o tres, estaría bien.

No tengo ningún catalán ni valenciano, ni balear,aunque hay para hacer una referencia de Castellón.

Tengo mezclados aragoneses, pero ninguno 100% (que yo sepa, porque tengo muchos individuos que no sé cuales son sus orígenes).

mokordo
04-08-2021, 01:18 PM
Pongo esto en el otro foro, para que lo pruebe más gente.

mokordo
04-08-2021, 01:31 PM
No incluí a mi madre en la media alavesa, pero a mi padre y a mi tío abuelo en la andaluza oriental sí los incluí.

No he elegido medias para buscar un resultado medianamente lógico con mis padres o conmigo, acabo de probar todas las referencias que he hecho ahora mismo por primera vez.

Tampoco he tomado como referencia las medias regionales ya existentes en el datasheet (aunque las he probado con ellas para ver si se parecen).

He hecho medias fiándome de los orígenes atribuidos con que me las han pasado, y he quitado aquellos que me ha parecido que debía quitar de la media para evitar solapamientos.

Tiene bastante lógica por ahora, pero según se vayan añadiendo más referencias de otras partes, los resultados irán cambiando.



Target: gixajo
Distance: 5.0567% / 5.05674222 | R2P
66.6 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
33.4 Álava(n=4)


Distance to: gixajo
5.71505031 Asturias(n=3)
5.89144295 Cantabria(n=2)
6.28031050 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
8.18349559 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
8.27116679 Castilla_y_León(n=4)
8.85811492 Portugal(n=13)
8.98981646 Álava(n=4)

*************************************
Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.6475% / 2.64747049 | R2P
100.0 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)


Distance to: gixajo_dad
2.64747049 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
5.40947317 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
5.84395414 Asturias(n=3)
6.08513763 Cantabria(n=2)
6.24201890 Castilla_y_León(n=4)
6.38941312 Portugal(n=13)
12.19416254 Álava(n=4)

*************************************
Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 2.8364% / 2.83635898 | R2P
53.7 Álava(n=4)
46.3 Cantabria(n=2)

Distance to: gixajo_mom
4.52078533 Álava(n=4)
4.97700713 Cantabria(n=2)
5.96922943 Asturias(n=3)
8.53009965 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
9.13229982 Castilla_y_León(n=4)
9.56978056 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
10.36196410 Portugal(n=13)

mokordo
04-08-2021, 01:36 PM
Puse el modo ese con solo dos poblaciones sin darme cuenta, este es el modo normal:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 5.0559% / 5.05585545
64.7 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
32.2 Álava(n=4)
3.1 Cantabria(n=2)

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.6475% / 2.64747049
100.0 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 2.8361% / 2.83611646
54.0 Álava(n=4)
45.2 Cantabria(n=2)
0.8 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)

Ruderico
04-08-2021, 01:53 PM
Distance to: MrsRuderico
2.78643141 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
3.03687339 Castilla_y_León(n=4)
3.28298645 Portugal(n=13)
3.98428162 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
4.17652966 Asturias(n=3)
5.83161213 Cantabria(n=2)
11.22699425 Álava(n=4)

Target: MrsRuderico
Distance: 2.6622% / 2.66223628 | R2P
70.0 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
30.0 Portugal(n=13)

Target: MrsRuderico
Distance: 2.4922% / 2.49218455
38.3 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
38.3 Portugal(n=13)
11.6 Asturias(n=3)
8.3 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
3.5 Álava(n=4)

Target: MrsRuderico
Distance: 2.4951% / 2.49507542 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.1 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
35.4 Portugal(n=13)
21.1 Asturias(n=3)
6.4 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)

Target: MrsRuderico
Distance: 2.5019% / 2.50192890 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.1 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
34.1 Portugal(n=13)
22.8 Asturias(n=3)

Target: MrsRuderico
Distance: 2.6394% / 2.63944094 | ADC: 1x RC
59.5 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
21.0 Portugal(n=13)
19.5 Castilla_y_León(n=4)

Target: MrsRuderico
Distance: 2.7864% / 2.78643141 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)





Distance to: Ruderico
2.31430335 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
3.23668040 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
3.66255375 Asturias(n=3)
3.98741771 Castilla_y_León(n=4)
4.40823094 Portugal(n=13)
4.71391557 Cantabria(n=2)
10.52840444 Álava(n=4)

Target: Ruderico
Distance: 2.0481% / 2.04810733 | R2P
73.8 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
26.2 Asturias(n=3)

Target: Ruderico
Distance: 1.9545% / 1.95454552
69.7 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
17.1 Portugal(n=13)
6.3 Álava(n=4)
5.7 Cantabria(n=2)
1.2 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)

Target: Ruderico
Distance: 1.9747% / 1.97471180 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.3 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
11.8 Asturias(n=3)
11.8 Portugal(n=13)
9.6 Cantabria(n=2)
0.5 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)

Target: Ruderico
Distance: 1.9747% / 1.97471180 | ADC: 0.5x RC
66.3 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
11.8 Asturias(n=3)
11.8 Portugal(n=13)
9.6 Cantabria(n=2)
0.5 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)

Target: Ruderico
Distance: 2.0481% / 2.04810733 | ADC: 1x RC
73.8 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
26.2 Asturias(n=3)




Distance to: Portuguese
1.29695798 Portugal(n=13)
2.14608947 Castilla_y_León(n=4)
3.04642413 Andalucía_Occidental(n=4)
4.91526195 Andalucía_Oriental(n=6)
5.08545966 Asturias(n=3)
6.48704864 Cantabria(n=2)
12.61746012 Álava(n=4)

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 1.1852% / 1.18515862
77.3 Portugal(n=13)
22.7 Castilla_y_León(n=4)

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 1.2970% / 1.29695798 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Portugal(n=13)

Ruderico
04-08-2021, 03:35 PM
Bueno, vamos dejando por aquí las primeras que voy haciendo.

La portuguesa es provisional, porque tengo un montón de K13 portugueses que me pasaron amablemente, y apenas he pasado unos pocos individuos al formato de coordenadas de vahaduo.


Portugal(n=13),38.33,11.17,25.67,2.35,13.59,3.31,0 .20,0.15,0.27,0.56,0.29,2.20,1.91

Y las primeras provinciales o regionales españolas (voy por orden alfabético), alguna solo tiene dos. En la alavesa al final no añadí a mi madre, ni otro sample individual que encontré a través de Gedmatch.


Asturias(n=3),41.82,10.32,27.78,1.66,11.54,3.32,0. 00,0.67,0.26,0.26,0.90,1.04,0.43
Álava(n=4),48.52,9.15,29.17,0.44,8.44,1.69,0.34,0. 39,0.04,0.29,0.35,0.61,0.59
Andalucía_Oriental(n=6),38.57,9.77,29.37,1.82,12.2 2,4.53,0.47,0.16,0.04,0.28,0.43,1.01,1.34
Andalucía_Occidental(n=4),38.89,9.72,27.55,2.66,13 .74,2.94,0.14,0.58,0.43,0.28,0.36,1.70,1.03
Cantabria(n=2),42.14,11.70,29.22,0.25,11.48,2.13,0 .26,0.00,0.36,0.50,0.39,1.46,0.14
Castilla_y_León(n=4),39.68,11.09,26.59,1.92,13.90, 2.69,0.29,0.14,0.12,0.55,0.53,1.96,0.54

A ver si os funcionan bien, aún puedo hacer alguna más.

Si alguno puede pasarme al menos un gallego (solo tengo uno), y mejor dos o tres, estaría bien.

No tengo ningún catalán ni valenciano, ni balear,aunque hay para hacer una referencia de Castellón.

Tengo mezclados aragoneses, pero ninguno 100% (que yo sepa, porque tengo muchos individuos que no sé cuales son sus orígenes).

Castilla Y León es una región muy grande. Estas 4 muestras son de onde? Leonesas o Castellanas? Me aburre un poco que en K13/K15 no hay muestras de CyL cerca de mí, ya que son de lejos las más cercanas en G25

sweuro
04-08-2021, 03:43 PM
Yo tengo más de 100 kits de españoles divididos por regiones, si quieren alguna región en concreto.
También tengo los resultados de eurogenes K15 de esos kits,

mokordo
04-08-2021, 05:56 PM
Castilla Y León es una región muy grande. Estas 4 muestras son de onde? Leonesas o Castellanas? Me aburre un poco que en K13/K15 no hay muestras de CyL cerca de mí, ya que son de lejos las más cercanas en G25

Dos de antepasados diferentes sitios variados del norte de Castilla y León (Burgos en su mayoría pero también Zamora y Palencia, creo), una de Valladolid y otra de un madrileño autodefinido como de orígenes castellano leoneses (indefinidos), y que parecía coherente porque no ploteaba inusitadamente respecto a los otros tres.

Un montón plotean cercanos pero no tengo forma de saber sus orígenes, así que no puedo usarlos. Y a todos los uso con pinzas, porque salvo muy pocos no puedo preguntar o tener forma de conocer sus orígenes exactos.

Con los portugueses lo tengo todavía peor, tengo más samples que los españoles, pero de la enorme mayoría no tengo ningún dato sobre de qué zona son sus abuelos etc...

Según vaya habiendo más samples se irán mejorando,ya ves que voy haciendo referencias por orden alfabético (de las que puedo hacer).

La referencia portuguesa no me he roto mucho la cabeza, he hecho una media de algunos de ellos, y ya está, pero puedo hacer alguna referencia más localizada, como de las Azores, por ejemplo, aunque con pocos samples.

mokordo
04-08-2021, 05:57 PM
Yo tengo más de 100 kits de españoles divididos por regiones, si quieren alguna región en concreto.
También tengo los resultados de eurogenes K15 de esos kits,

Quiero todos los que tengas!!!

mokordo
04-08-2021, 06:02 PM
Mejor por PM, por cierto.

Y gracias.:beerchug:

sweuro
04-08-2021, 06:56 PM
Ya te mande algunos kits por PM.

Aquí algunas medias para Eurogenes K15 con muestras obtenidas de un estudio :


Spanish_Alacant,20.22,29.41,5.54,3.99,21.72,2.81,9 .46,3.66,0.55,0.10,0.10,0.32,0.42,1.32,0.39
Spanish_Barcelonès,22.83,29.57,5.99,4.77,22.06,2.0 4,9.84,1.24,0.00,0.23,0.23,0.03,0.24,0.36,0.57
Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona,21.39,29.34,6.40,4.05,21 .11,2.78,9.48,3.13,0.26,0.37,0.13,0.24,0.25,0.73,0 .35
Spanish_Castelló,23.40,29.17,5.71,3.03,22.84,0.55, 10.71,2.38,0.28,0.31,0.22,0.31,0.31,0.51,0.28
Spanish_Catalunya_Central,21.78,29.69,7.52,3.51,21 .03,1.98,11.46,1.74,0.18,0.17,0.02,0.20,0.23,0.39, 0.09
Spanish_Eivissa,21.22,28.40,6.33,2.93,20.63,2.88,1 2.12,3.34,0.22,0.04,0.40,0.14,0.14,0.71,0.51
Spanish_Girona,23.56,28.03,6.78,2.33,22.43,2.31,10 .25,2.14,0.43,0.09,0.51,0.17,0.16,0.26,0.53
Spanish_Lleida,24.06,28.84,5.68,2.91,21.95,2.48,9. 71,2.51,0.20,0.38,0.30,0.15,0.36,0.30,0.16
Spanish_Mallorca,22.33,26.74,6.59,3.45,21.42,3.72, 10.65,2.88,0.30,0.00,0.25,0.13,0.41,0.70,0.44
Spanish_Menorca,20.15,24.48,7.30,4.04,23.35,3.65,1 0.49,4.32,0.19,0.11,0.00,0.33,0.26,0.69,0.63
Spanish_Penedès,24.01,27.98,7.33,2.98,20.34,3.08,1 0.46,2.01,0.53,0.08,0.15,0.36,0.14,0.37,0.17
Spanish_Peri-Barcelona,22.16,29.52,6.39,3.16,22.12,1.72,10.92,2 .36,0.26,0.19,0.14,0.15,0.16,0.54,0.21
Spanish_Pirineu,22.70,31.38,6.02,2.09,23.35,1.85,7 .55,2.78,0.84,0.05,0.38,0.06,0.32,0.23,0.39
Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre,18.66,31.28,6.70,3.13,22. 57,3.62,8.93,3.69,0.00,0.06,0.14,0.29,0.39,0.45,0. 08
Spanish_València,20.13,29.70,6.80,3.13,23.17,1.58, 9.77,2.79,0.32,0.69,0.09,0.25,0.41,0.78,0.36

muestras creadas por mi obtenidas de kits en gedmatch (Eurogenes K15):


Spaniard_Valencian_n=16,20.75,30.08,5.74,3.55,22.7 6,2.07,10.21,2.32,0.24,0.22,0.14,0.13,0.38,1.10,0. 31

Spaniard_Navarra_n=9,17.66,44.28,4.11,1.98,27.08,0 .24,1.41,1.99,0.23,0.45,0.05,0.32,0.08,0.17,0.01


Spaniard_La_Rioja_n=5,19.57,36.97,5.96,2.67,22.32, 0.42,8.78,1.94,0.23,0.17,0.03,0.20,0.23,0.24,0.29


Spaniard_Galicia_n=10,20.96,28.69,6.05,4.33,22.25, 2.00,8.96,3.43,0.15,0.14,0.22,0.23,0.21,1.86,0.56


Spaniard_Catalan_n=20,21.04,32.05,6.34,2.96,21.77, 2.30,9.32,2.35,0.24,0.26,0.13,0.27,0.13,0.53,0.30


Spaniard_Castilla-León_n=6,20.16,29.05,5.60,3.81,22.39,1.59,11.28,3. 16,0.24,0.07,0.01,0.08,0.38,1.87,0.31


Spaniard_Castilla_La_Mancha_n=8,21.37,31.06,4.20,1 .30,22.35,3.25,10.35,3.08,0.30,0.12,0.07,0.58,0.59 ,1.03,0.34


Spaniard_Cantabria_n=4,19.06,36.54,6.33,4.20,21.77 ,0.68,6.66,2.33,0.08,0.31,0.45,0.28,0.05,0.83,0.44


Spaniard_Canarias_n=8,19.04,26.20,5.74,3.01,20.83, 0.91,13.73,4.33,0.02,0.22,0.22,0.20,0.38,3.49,1.70


Spaniard_Basque_n=15,20.42,43.55,3.82,1.84,24.31,0 .00,3.63,1.12,0.11,0.22,0.35,0.24,0.08,0.21,0.09


Spaniard_Baleares_n=6,21.37,27.64,7.48,3.49,20.95, 3.49,11.23,2.30,0.13,0.59,0.18,0.08,0.18,0.17,0.73


Spaniard_Asturias_n=4,17.82,34.44,6.61,2.55,21.53, 1.11,9.95,3.62,0.09,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.99,0.36


Spaniard_Aragon_n=9,20.24,32.80,6.63,2.48,22.12,1. 03,10.64,2.23,0.10,0.08,0.07,0.29,0.24,0.84,0.21


Spaniard_Andalusian_n=22,19.51,30.36,5.45,2.90,21. 72,1.36,11.99,3.60,0.14,0.43,0.20,0.18,0.17,1.33 0,63

mokordo
04-08-2021, 07:02 PM
Ya te mande algunos kits por PM.

Aquí algunas medias para Eurogenes K15 con muestras obtenidas de un estudio :


Spanish_Alacant,20.22,29.41,5.54,3.99,21.72,2.81,9 .46,3.66,0.55,0.10,0.10,0.32,0.42,1.32,0.39
Spanish_Barcelonès,22.83,29.57,5.99,4.77,22.06,2.0 4,9.84,1.24,0.00,0.23,0.23,0.03,0.24,0.36,0.57
Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona,21.39,29.34,6.40,4.05,21 .11,2.78,9.48,3.13,0.26,0.37,0.13,0.24,0.25,0.73,0 .35
Spanish_Castelló,23.40,29.17,5.71,3.03,22.84,0.55, 10.71,2.38,0.28,0.31,0.22,0.31,0.31,0.51,0.28
Spanish_Catalunya_Central,21.78,29.69,7.52,3.51,21 .03,1.98,11.46,1.74,0.18,0.17,0.02,0.20,0.23,0.39, 0.09
Spanish_Eivissa,21.22,28.40,6.33,2.93,20.63,2.88,1 2.12,3.34,0.22,0.04,0.40,0.14,0.14,0.71,0.51
Spanish_Girona,23.56,28.03,6.78,2.33,22.43,2.31,10 .25,2.14,0.43,0.09,0.51,0.17,0.16,0.26,0.53
Spanish_Lleida,24.06,28.84,5.68,2.91,21.95,2.48,9. 71,2.51,0.20,0.38,0.30,0.15,0.36,0.30,0.16
Spanish_Mallorca,22.33,26.74,6.59,3.45,21.42,3.72, 10.65,2.88,0.30,0.00,0.25,0.13,0.41,0.70,0.44
Spanish_Menorca,20.15,24.48,7.30,4.04,23.35,3.65,1 0.49,4.32,0.19,0.11,0.00,0.33,0.26,0.69,0.63
Spanish_Penedès,24.01,27.98,7.33,2.98,20.34,3.08,1 0.46,2.01,0.53,0.08,0.15,0.36,0.14,0.37,0.17
Spanish_Peri-Barcelona,22.16,29.52,6.39,3.16,22.12,1.72,10.92,2 .36,0.26,0.19,0.14,0.15,0.16,0.54,0.21
Spanish_Pirineu,22.70,31.38,6.02,2.09,23.35,1.85,7 .55,2.78,0.84,0.05,0.38,0.06,0.32,0.23,0.39
Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre,18.66,31.28,6.70,3.13,22. 57,3.62,8.93,3.69,0.00,0.06,0.14,0.29,0.39,0.45,0. 08

Siempre vienen bien, pero como metamos esas referencias(las del k15 me refiero, no los kits que enviaste), que ya las conozco del G25, salimos todos catalanes, lo digo por experiencia propia y de otros foreros que no tenemos ningún antepasado catalán.

Si te parece bien, paso de comarcas por ahora, y hago o regionales, o provinciales, con lo que me has pasado hay suficientes para una referencia para cada provincia, y/o una general para toda Cataluña.

mokordo
04-08-2021, 07:09 PM
Nos falta Valencia para la región valenciana, pero puedo hacer ahora con esas del K15 Comunidad Valenciana, Cataluña y Baleares.

Edit:Más que nada porque me fío que son de un estudio, los kits individuales, antes habrá que echarles un vistazo.

mokordo
04-08-2021, 07:12 PM
Como no respondes las hago ahora y ya está.

sweuro
04-08-2021, 07:15 PM
Nos falta Valencia para la región valenciana, pero puedo hacer ahora con esas del K15 Comunidad Valenciana, Cataluña y Baleares.

Edit:Más que nada porque me fío que son de un estudio, los kits individuales, antes habrá que echarles un vistazo.

Si se me olvidó ponerlo, este es la muestra valenciana del mismo estudio :


Spanish_València,20.13,29.70,6.80,3.13,23.17,1.58, 9.77,2.79,0.32,0.69,0.09,0.25,0.41,0.78,0.36

mokordo
04-08-2021, 07:22 PM
Pues aquí están, si véis algo mal me decís:

Son del K15, no del K13.


Comunidad_Valenciana,21.25,29.43,6.02,3.38,22.58,1 .65,9.98,2.94,0.38,0.37,0.14,0.29,0.38,0.87,0.34
Baleares:average,21.23,26.54,6.74,3.47,21.80,3.42, 11.09,3.51,0.24,0.05,0.22,0.20,0.27,0.70,0.53
Cataluña:average,22.35,29.51,6.53,3.21,21.88,2.43, 9.84,2.40,0.30,0.18,0.22,0.18,0.25,0.40,0.28

mokordo
04-08-2021, 07:23 PM
Si se me olvidó ponerlo, este es la muestra valenciana del mismo estudio :


Spanish_València,20.13,29.70,6.80,3.13,23.17,1.58, 9.77,2.79,0.32,0.69,0.09,0.25,0.41,0.78,0.36


Pues ahora la añado a las otras dos valencianas.

mokordo
04-08-2021, 07:27 PM
Ya cambié la anterior referencia de la Comunidad Valenciana añadiendo Valencia a las otras dos y haciendo la media.

mokordo
04-08-2021, 07:28 PM
Osea, añadí ésta:

K15!!!


Comunidad_Valenciana,21.25,29.43,6.02,3.38,22.58,1 .65,9.98,2.94,0.38,0.37,0.14,0.29,0.38,0.87,0.34

Edit:Me voy a cenar, luego vuelvo si puedo.

Ruderico
04-09-2021, 07:11 AM
Ya te mande algunos kits por PM.

Aquí algunas medias para Eurogenes K15 con muestras obtenidas de un estudio :


Spanish_Alacant,20.22,29.41,5.54,3.99,21.72,2.81,9 .46,3.66,0.55,0.10,0.10,0.32,0.42,1.32,0.39
Spanish_Barcelonès,22.83,29.57,5.99,4.77,22.06,2.0 4,9.84,1.24,0.00,0.23,0.23,0.03,0.24,0.36,0.57
Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona,21.39,29.34,6.40,4.05,21 .11,2.78,9.48,3.13,0.26,0.37,0.13,0.24,0.25,0.73,0 .35
Spanish_Castelló,23.40,29.17,5.71,3.03,22.84,0.55, 10.71,2.38,0.28,0.31,0.22,0.31,0.31,0.51,0.28
Spanish_Catalunya_Central,21.78,29.69,7.52,3.51,21 .03,1.98,11.46,1.74,0.18,0.17,0.02,0.20,0.23,0.39, 0.09
Spanish_Eivissa,21.22,28.40,6.33,2.93,20.63,2.88,1 2.12,3.34,0.22,0.04,0.40,0.14,0.14,0.71,0.51
Spanish_Girona,23.56,28.03,6.78,2.33,22.43,2.31,10 .25,2.14,0.43,0.09,0.51,0.17,0.16,0.26,0.53
Spanish_Lleida,24.06,28.84,5.68,2.91,21.95,2.48,9. 71,2.51,0.20,0.38,0.30,0.15,0.36,0.30,0.16
Spanish_Mallorca,22.33,26.74,6.59,3.45,21.42,3.72, 10.65,2.88,0.30,0.00,0.25,0.13,0.41,0.70,0.44
Spanish_Menorca,20.15,24.48,7.30,4.04,23.35,3.65,1 0.49,4.32,0.19,0.11,0.00,0.33,0.26,0.69,0.63
Spanish_Penedès,24.01,27.98,7.33,2.98,20.34,3.08,1 0.46,2.01,0.53,0.08,0.15,0.36,0.14,0.37,0.17
Spanish_Peri-Barcelona,22.16,29.52,6.39,3.16,22.12,1.72,10.92,2 .36,0.26,0.19,0.14,0.15,0.16,0.54,0.21
Spanish_Pirineu,22.70,31.38,6.02,2.09,23.35,1.85,7 .55,2.78,0.84,0.05,0.38,0.06,0.32,0.23,0.39
Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre,18.66,31.28,6.70,3.13,22. 57,3.62,8.93,3.69,0.00,0.06,0.14,0.29,0.39,0.45,0. 08
Spanish_València,20.13,29.70,6.80,3.13,23.17,1.58, 9.77,2.79,0.32,0.69,0.09,0.25,0.41,0.78,0.36

muestras creadas por mi obtenidas de kits en gedmatch (Eurogenes K15):


Spaniard_Valencian_n=16,20.75,30.08,5.74,3.55,22.7 6,2.07,10.21,2.32,0.24,0.22,0.14,0.13,0.38,1.10,0. 31

Spaniard_Navarra_n=9,17.66,44.28,4.11,1.98,27.08,0 .24,1.41,1.99,0.23,0.45,0.05,0.32,0.08,0.17,0.01


Spaniard_La_Rioja_n=5,19.57,36.97,5.96,2.67,22.32, 0.42,8.78,1.94,0.23,0.17,0.03,0.20,0.23,0.24,0.29


Spaniard_Galicia_n=10,20.96,28.69,6.05,4.33,22.25, 2.00,8.96,3.43,0.15,0.14,0.22,0.23,0.21,1.86,0.56


Spaniard_Catalan_n=20,21.04,32.05,6.34,2.96,21.77, 2.30,9.32,2.35,0.24,0.26,0.13,0.27,0.13,0.53,0.30


Spaniard_Castilla-León_n=6,20.16,29.05,5.60,3.81,22.39,1.59,11.28,3. 16,0.24,0.07,0.01,0.08,0.38,1.87,0.31


Spaniard_Castilla_La_Mancha_n=8,21.37,31.06,4.20,1 .30,22.35,3.25,10.35,3.08,0.30,0.12,0.07,0.58,0.59 ,1.03,0.34


Spaniard_Cantabria_n=4,19.06,36.54,6.33,4.20,21.77 ,0.68,6.66,2.33,0.08,0.31,0.45,0.28,0.05,0.83,0.44


Spaniard_Canarias_n=8,19.04,26.20,5.74,3.01,20.83, 0.91,13.73,4.33,0.02,0.22,0.22,0.20,0.38,3.49,1.70


Spaniard_Basque_n=15,20.42,43.55,3.82,1.84,24.31,0 .00,3.63,1.12,0.11,0.22,0.35,0.24,0.08,0.21,0.09


Spaniard_Baleares_n=6,21.37,27.64,7.48,3.49,20.95, 3.49,11.23,2.30,0.13,0.59,0.18,0.08,0.18,0.17,0.73


Spaniard_Asturias_n=4,17.82,34.44,6.61,2.55,21.53, 1.11,9.95,3.62,0.09,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.99,0.36


Spaniard_Aragon_n=9,20.24,32.80,6.63,2.48,22.12,1. 03,10.64,2.23,0.10,0.08,0.07,0.29,0.24,0.84,0.21


Spaniard_Andalusian_n=22,19.51,30.36,5.45,2.90,21. 72,1.36,11.99,3.60,0.14,0.43,0.20,0.18,0.17,1.33,0 .63


Gracias por compartir esto, personalmente me gusta el K15 porque hace la diferencia entre el Atlantic más Europeo Occidental, y el North Sea más típicamente Escandinavo o Germánico. Por otro lado no estoy seguro que lo hace siempre bien..yo parezco Asturiano, o un Cántabro con niveles occidentales de norte Africano :noidea:

Distance to: Portuguese
2.30182536 Spanish_Mallorca
2.80967970 Spaniard_Galicia_n=10
3.35108938 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
3.35383363 Spanish_Eivissa
3.35589034 Spanish_Alacant
3.39297804 Spaniard_Castilla-León_n=6
3.47347089 Spaniard_Baleares_n=6
3.51486842 Comunidad_Valenciana
3.89385413 Spanish_Girona
3.92427063 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
3.99699887 Spanish_Menorca
4.10119495 Spanish_Lleida
4.29930227 Spanish_Penedès
4.44569455 Spanish_València
4.52963575 Spanish_Castelló
4.55639112 Spanish_Barcelonès
4.68781399 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
4.98766478 Spaniard_Andalusian_n=22
5.18680056 Spaniard_Canarias_n=8
5.52626456 Spaniard_Castilla_La_Mancha_n=8
6.00294928 Spaniard_Catalan_n=20
6.22120567 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
6.46195017 Spanish_Pirineu
7.02869120 Spaniard_Aragon_n=9
9.05860365 Spaniard_Asturias_n=4
11.21575677 Spaniard_Cantabria_n=4
11.24502112 Spaniard_La_Rioja_n=5
19.05594920 Spaniard_Basque_n=15
21.29125407 Spaniard_Navarra_n=9


Distance to: MrsRuderico
5.91370442 Portuguese
6.16921389 Spaniard_Castilla-León_n=6
6.22630709 Spanish_Castelló
6.29091408 Spaniard_Galicia_n=10
6.36688307 Comunidad_Valenciana
6.43342832 Spanish_Barcelonès
6.55831533 Spanish_Alacant
6.78168121 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
6.79883078 Spanish_Lleida
6.85847651 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
6.90735116 Spanish_Mallorca
7.10864966 Spanish_Eivissa
7.17105989 Spaniard_Andalusian_n=22
7.32978854 Spanish_Girona
7.35887899 Spanish_València
7.59387253 Spaniard_Baleares_n=6
7.61303487 Spanish_Menorca
7.84778950 Spaniard_Canarias_n=8
7.89842389 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
7.98268752 Spaniard_Castilla_La_Mancha_n=8
8.14392412 Spanish_Penedès
8.55183606 Spaniard_Catalan_n=20
8.65251986 Spanish_Pirineu
9.20029891 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
9.23473876 Spaniard_Aragon_n=9


Distance to: Ruderico
3.93129750 Spaniard_Asturias_n=4
6.24110567 Spaniard_Cantabria_n=4
6.26379278 Spaniard_La_Rioja_n=5
6.49198737 Spaniard_Aragon_n=9
6.52888965 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
7.17439893 Spaniard_Andalusian_n=22
7.52664600 Spaniard_Catalan_n=20
7.71874342 Spanish_València
8.19463239 Spanish_Alacant
8.26252383 Spaniard_Castilla-León_n=6
8.46057918 Spaniard_Castilla_La_Mancha_n=8
8.60031976 Comunidad_Valenciana
8.81482274 Spaniard_Galicia_n=10
9.00885120 Spanish_Pirineu
9.23964285 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
9.54357899 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
9.86128795 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
10.08794330 Spanish_Eivissa
10.47963740 Spanish_Castelló
10.52965811 Spanish_Barcelonès
10.63262432 Spaniard_Canarias_n=8
10.81637647 Portuguese
10.97065176 Spaniard_Baleares_n=6
11.33265194 Spanish_Lleida
11.42159796 Spanish_Girona

Edit:Si yo quitar 5% de mi Atlantic y agregarlo al North Sea mi resultado ya es más típico

Distance to: Ruderico_PT
3.50729240 Spaniard_Galicia_n=10
3.54668860 Spanish_València
3.61462308 Comunidad_Valenciana
3.80385331 Spaniard_Castilla-León_n=6
4.04376063 Spanish_Alacant
4.15595958 Spaniard_Andalusian_n=22
4.68827260 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
4.70860914 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
4.90412072 Spaniard_Catalan_n=20
4.92889440 Portuguese
4.98224849 Spanish_Castelló
5.00458790 Spaniard_Aragon_n=9
5.02587306 Spanish_Pirineu
5.07753877 Spaniard_Castilla_La_Mancha_n=8
5.11139903 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
5.55577177 Spanish_Eivissa
5.69674468 Spanish_Girona
5.79042313 Spanish_Lleida
5.80043102 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
5.96436920 Spanish_Barcelonès
6.24140209 Spaniard_Asturias_n=4
6.25315920 Spanish_Mallorca
6.35257428 Spaniard_Baleares_n=6
6.47709040 Spaniard_Canarias_n=8
7.00042856 Spanish_Penedès
7.08142641 Spanish_Menorca
8.39851773 Spaniard_La_Rioja_n=5
8.42919925 Spaniard_Cantabria_n=4
15.86924699 Spaniard_Basque_n=15
17.83919561 Spaniard_Navarra_n=9

mokordo
04-10-2021, 11:35 PM
Dos medias "brutas" de todos los samples de cada país hasta la fecha:


España:average(n=79),40.896,10.789,27.822,2.035,12 .634,2.642,0.426,0.298,0.211,0.323,0.420,0.852,0.6 48
Portugal:average(n=76),38.071,11.755,25.736,1.956, 14.011,3.535,0.339,0.327,0.198,0.401,0.416,1.841,1 .372

Amplio las referencias provinciales españolas con Gerona y Lérida, gracias a Defcon2 que los pasó a coordenadas de vahaduo y a sweuro que me pasó los kits :


España_Asturias:(n=3),41.82,10.32,27.78,1.66,11.54 ,3.32,0.00,0.67,0.26,0.26,0.90,1.04,0.43
España_Álava:(n=4),48.52,9.15,29.17,0.44,8.44,1.69 ,0.34,0.39,0.04,0.29,0.35,0.61,0.59
España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4),38.89,9.72,27.55, 2.66,13.74,2.94,0.14,0.58,0.43,0.28,0.36,1.70,1.03
España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6),38.57,9.77,29.37,1. 82,12.22,4.53,0.47,0.16,0.04,0.28,0.43,1.01,1.34
España_Cantabria:(n=2),42.14,11.70,29.22,0.25,11.4 8,2.13,0.26,0.00,0.36,0.50,0.39,1.46,0.14
España_Castellón:(n=3),43.07,10.44,26.28,4.14,11.2 1,1.93,0.09,0.69,0.20,0.41,0.35,0.36,0.85
España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4),39.68,11.09,26.59,1.9 2,13.90,2.69,0.29,0.14,0.12,0.55,0.53,1.96,0.54
España_Extremadura:(n=3),36.72,9.90,28.32,1.52,15. 22,3.18,1.01,0.65,0.33,0.12,0.53,1.02,1.48
España_Lleida:(n=4),40.04,11.68,27.60,1.97,13.87,3 .07,0.00,0.40,0.45,0.08,0.45,0.41,0.00
España_Girona:(n=3),41.97,10.89,27.31,3.21,11.96,2 .21,0.50,0.00,1.08,0.27,0.21,0.03,0.35

mokordo
06-01-2021, 03:38 PM
Sitio equivocado.

mokordo
06-01-2021, 03:40 PM
.............