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Tomenable
04-02-2021, 06:28 AM
My grandmother:

https://i.imgur.com/jg6Q575.png

My mother:

https://i.imgur.com/Zv2XSfF.png

My father:

https://i.imgur.com/Ii3czrr.png

Waldemar
04-02-2021, 09:01 AM
Me:
https://i.postimg.cc/RVjt84N9/Screenshot-20210402-095731-My-Heritage.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/SRF7dnN3/Screenshot-20210402-071756-My-Heritage.jpg



My wife:
https://i.postimg.cc/cH4tYJ57/Screenshot-20210402-095753-My-Heritage.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/nzQGq4Zq/Screenshot-20210402-071836-My-Heritage.jpg

BalkanKiwi
04-02-2021, 10:03 AM
Thanks for sharing. How accurate do you find the given Genetic Groups to be compared to Polish ancestry on paper?

Mariusz95
04-02-2021, 10:11 AM
Most people have assigned their genetic groups to one ethnicity. Do you think that if my mom has genetic groups only for east european she will get 100 % east european in update?

Waldemar
04-02-2021, 10:15 AM
Thanks for sharing. How accurate do you find the given Genetic Groups to be compared to Polish ancestry on paper?

They are actually quite accurate. Probably the best I've seen so far.

Tomenable
04-02-2021, 11:29 AM
They are actually quite accurate.

My father has this for years 1600-1650 (I expected rather Southern Greater Poland):

https://i.imgur.com/XkTTuSD.png

https://i.imgur.com/EVEix3L.png

But Greater Poland is correct as a region. That said, I expected southern parts of it.

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My direct paternal line is from Koźmin Wielkopolski in Southern Wielkopolska AFAIK:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C5%BAmin_Wielkopolski

But I don't have paper trail genealogy researched as far back as 1600s, so who knows.

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Waldemar - what do you score for years 1600-1650 ???

Waldemar
04-02-2021, 11:50 AM
Waldemar - what do you score for years 1600-1650 ???

Me:
https://i.postimg.cc/wxGS0Sf5/Screenshot-20210402-124839-My-Heritage.jpg

My wife:
https://i.postimg.cc/HnRRnycv/Screenshot-20210402-124809-My-Heritage.jpg

Tomenable
04-02-2021, 11:51 AM
Me:
https://i.postimg.cc/wxGS0Sf5/Screenshot-20210402-124839-My-Heritage.jpg

Oh, so it is the same for everyone who belongs to this group (Polska #3)...

The whole group is from Chełst and Skępe. :)

Tomenable
04-02-2021, 09:32 PM
Do you think that if my mom has genetic groups only for east european she will get 100 % east european in update?

No, I do not think so.

slowian
04-04-2021, 03:26 PM
My mom (South Eastern Poland - now Ukraine, Stanislawowskie and Podole)

https://i.imgur.com/uYbLSBJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/7iuydHN.png
https://i.imgur.com/gRipDU3.png
https://i.imgur.com/IIrs25r.png

My father ( half SIlesia, half Lemberg - Lwów)

https://i.imgur.com/6KkwMzt.png

Tomenable
04-04-2021, 03:36 PM
I cant insert image... :(

Try uploading it to Imgur - https://imgur.com/

And then insert the link between

pzkw
04-22-2021, 10:07 PM
My MH Polish results and groups details
44462

Mariusz95
04-24-2021, 08:47 AM
My MH Polish results and groups details
44462

Do you know from what ancestor do you have Netherlands, Germany and England? I have the same group

Riverman
04-24-2021, 10:08 AM
Do you know from what ancestor do you have Netherlands, Germany and England? I have the same group

Look at the description he posted too, its the genetic group for NCE with Ashkenazi admixture.
Interestingly he has no AJ percentage and no North Western European, but gets Ashkenazi admixture and Germany as genetic groups. So one of these two aspects of his results must be wrong, but which one is hard to determine.

Mariusz95
04-24-2021, 10:24 AM
Look at the description he posted too, its the genetic group for NCE with Ashkenazi admixture.
Interestingly he has no AJ percentage and no North Western European, but gets Ashkenazi admixture and Germany as genetic groups. So one of these two aspects of his results must be wrong, but which one is hard to determine.

I'm very curious how MH want to put Northwestern Ashkenazi category on the map after update. Now they have only eastern Ashkenazi ethnicity and if I'm not wrong they will not add no additional ethnicities.

Riverman
04-24-2021, 10:47 AM
I'm very curious how MH want to put Northwestern Ashkenazi category on the map after update. Now they have only eastern Ashkenazi ethnicity and if I'm not wrong they will not add no additional ethnicities.

There is no Northwestern Ashkenazi category which can be distinguished in mixed individuals, but people with significant Northern ancestry which have some kind of Ashkenazi ancestry. That's one of the mixed clusters, there are more for different ethnicities.

pzkw
04-24-2021, 02:31 PM
I might have some clues from where the German and maybe Ashkenazi came from: my grandma was born in Markowa - a village in podkarpackie where until 18 century German was spoken and many people have polonized German surnames (including my grandma). Check the wikipedia entry "Głuchoniemcy" (Walddeutschen).

My question is about the "Top places" feature: actually most my genetic groups have Germany as the first listed place from 1600 up to 1800-1850, then comes Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, etc. Does this mean that my ancestors came to present day Poland that late from the Western Europe?

Mariusz95
04-24-2021, 06:01 PM
I might have some clues from where the German and maybe Ashkenazi came from: my grandma was born in Markowa - a village in podkarpackie where until 18 century German was spoken and many people have polonized German surnames (including my grandma). Check the wikipedia entry "Głuchoniemcy" (Walddeutschen).

My question is about the "Top places" feature: actually most my genetic groups have Germany as the first listed place from 1600 up to 1800-1850, then comes Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, etc. Does this mean that my ancestors came to present day Poland that late from the Western Europe?

You have to know that every Pole get almost the same genetic groups and not to take them to seriously. Imo you don't have to suggest yourself where in Poland your ancestors lived ( to connections with Germany or Ukraine) because we had a lot of wars and I would say that each region in Poland can be connected with Germans or Ukrainians

pzkw
04-24-2021, 06:22 PM
Right, but wars were pretty common all over Europe until 1945, so I don't think there is anything special with us. Genetics testing and traditional genealogy are complementary, that's why I try to make assumptions from where specific admixtures may have come. It's rather easy to spot clearly German surname in family tree, so the results may basically confirm ambiguous facts from someone's genealogy.

Mariusz95
04-24-2021, 06:32 PM
Right, but wars were pretty common all over Europe until 1945, so I don't think there is anything special with us. Genetics testing and traditional genealogy are complementary, that's why I try to make assumptions from where specific admixtures may have come. It's rather easy to spot clearly German surname in family tree, so the results may basically confirm ambiguous facts from someone's genealogy.

I noticed one problem with genetic groups. My grandma 25 % northgerman got 0 genetic groups from Germany. All slavic. My mom too. But her sister 2 german groups. Me 1 plus Germany Netherlands England. The last group is a little bit weird because me and my mom are related with Swedes who got this group too. But in my family only me

Riverman
04-24-2021, 06:42 PM
I might have some clues from where the German and maybe Ashkenazi came from: my grandma was born in Markowa - a village in podkarpackie where until 18 century German was spoken and many people have polonized German surnames (including my grandma). Check the wikipedia entry "Głuchoniemcy" (Walddeutschen).

My question is about the "Top places" feature: actually most my genetic groups have Germany as the first listed place from 1600 up to 1800-1850, then comes Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, etc. Does this mean that my ancestors came to present day Poland that late from the Western Europe?

There is definitely German ancestry in the Transcarpathian region, including recent from different German regions.

Concerning the time line: This feature just shows you which members of your cluster have a tree going back that far.
Like for me most of the records I have start about 1650. In some places there simply are no records before 1750.
So if I would make such a map for myself, the earliestancestors would all depend on available records.
Same for all these clusters.
It doesnt help if 90 percent came from Poland, if most of these Polish ancestors left no records behind or their descendantsgot no access to those which exist.

Mariusz95
04-24-2021, 06:49 PM
There is definitely German ancestry in the Transcarpathian region, including recent from different German regions.

Concerning the time line: This feature just shows you which members of your cluster have a tree going back that far.
Like for me most of the records I have start about 1650. In some places there simply are no records before 1750.
So if I would make such a map for myself, the earliestancestors would all depend on available records.
Same for all these clusters.
It doesnt help if 90 percent came from Poland, if most of these Polish ancestors left no records behind or their descendantsgot no access to those which exist.

My friends have the same groups with no German ancestry. Even Romanian ancestry is not detected.