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Nqp15hhu
04-19-2021, 12:33 PM
My LivingDNA upload from AncestryDna is heavily Irish (85%). This seems exaggerated, based on what I know about my ancestry, and what I recorded on Ancestry itself.

My fathers results are only 37% Irish and show up many of the regions I would expect. If I add my fathers Ireland and NW Scotland result, that stat is close to the 48% Irish he records on Ancestry. It is not close to the 63% I have on ancestry, more 94%.

Given the low 37% Irish from my father, the 85% Irish statistic for myself seems wrong. I was thinking of buying a LivingDNA kit as it may show more accurate results for myself. Would this be a waste of money? Would it show the same sort of result?

Nqp15hhu
04-19-2021, 04:07 PM
This is my mumís results: https://i.imgur.com/Ci1txWP.jpg

My dads: https://i.imgur.com/qUgIWIz.png

If I add together and divide =
Ireland = 90+ 37/2 = 63.5%, my ancestryDna is 63% Irish
NI and SW Scotland = 5.4 + 36/2 = 20.7%
Highlands = 12.4 + 2.4 /2 = 7.4%
Cumbria = 3.9 + 1.2/2 = 2.55%
Northumbria = 8 + 1/2 = 4.5%
East Anglia = 2.4/2 = 1.2%

In reality:
https://i.imgur.com/au3VFQR.jpg

So it appears that this might be accurate for my parents but not me. I wonder if the NI and SW Scotland is being misinterpreted as Irish?

Both my parents have Northumbria.

boilermeschew827
04-20-2021, 01:12 PM
I wouldn't waste my money, but that's my opinion.

I bought a swab kit in 2018 that was updated last year and it's "meh" at best. My Ancestry upload is very similar, I can see the macro regions so I opted not to pay for the details since they seem to be pretty close.

My 23andMe kit appears to show more Southern Euro, which is intriguing since my paid swab only shows French in the form of minor Basque or other groups - otherwise it completely misses it. I'd pay for it out of curiosity, but not for $50.

Paid swab kit (cannot post JPEGs for some reason, it says the JPEG exceeds kb amount? I am not sure, they are small files)
NE Europe 50.8%
Scandinavia 18.1%
NW Germanic 14%
Scotland and Ireland 14.9%
Basque 2.2%

Ancestry upload
NE Europe 52.2%
NW Europe 38.3%
I assume the rest is Scotland and Ireland

23andMe upload
NE Europe 46.1%
NW Europe 33.9%
Europe South 13.4%
I assume the rest is Scotland and Ireland

NW and NE Europe are all relatively small spreads, in opposite directions though; NE is too high and NW is too low in all results, they should be reversed, but it's a minor complaint all things considered; but some German may be going to that NE number. The difference with 23andMe is the Southern Euro proxy, for French, which should be near 25% theoretically.

Maybe someone with actual ancestry from UK/Ireland has some input on the differences in their kits.

HBA39
04-20-2021, 01:28 PM
LivingDNA overestimated my British ancestry quite a bit. I think that’s what it does with a lot of peoples results.

Nqp15hhu
04-20-2021, 02:46 PM
I wouldn't waste my money, but that's my opinion.

I bought a swab kit in 2018 that was updated last year and it's "meh" at best. My Ancestry upload is very similar, I can see the macro regions so I opted not to pay for the details since they seem to be pretty close.

My 23andMe kit appears to show more Southern Euro, which is intriguing since my paid swab only shows French in the form of minor Basque or other groups - otherwise it completely misses it. I'd pay for it out of curiosity, but not for $50.

Paid swab kit (cannot post JPEGs for some reason, it says the JPEG exceeds kb amount? I am not sure, they are small files)
NE Europe 50.8%
Scandinavia 18.1%
NW Germanic 14%
Scotland and Ireland 14.9%
Basque 2.2%

Ancestry upload
NE Europe 52.2%
NW Europe 38.3%
I assume the rest is Scotland and Ireland

23andMe upload
NE Europe 46.1%
NW Europe 33.9%
Europe South 13.4%
I assume the rest is Scotland and Ireland

NW and NE Europe are all relatively small spreads, in opposite directions though; NE is too high and NW is too low in all results, they should be reversed, but it's a minor complaint all things considered; but some German may be going to that NE number. The difference with 23andMe is the Southern Euro proxy, for French, which should be near 25% theoretically.

Maybe someone with actual ancestry from UK/Ireland has some input on the differences in their kits.

Thanks I have been looking for reviews of it from an Irish or British perspective but canít find many.

jadegreg
04-20-2021, 03:10 PM
Owen, it's really touch and go. For some people it can be more accurate with the paid test (My Sister), with respect to recorded ancestry, and for others the Ancestry upload appears more accurate (which has the least useable SNPs for their ancestry analysis). In my Brother's, Mother's and my case there is practically no difference, less than a couple of percent difference with respect to most regions. I think for Fionn, the upload was more accurate, and Jessie the paid test was more accurate, but neither were really approaching 'acceptable'. In my opinion, I would wait, until they announce that they've actually intoduced more Scottish and Irish samples, as they have threatened to do, going on 3+ years now.........

Bog Body
05-02-2021, 09:09 PM
My LivingDNA upload from AncestryDna is heavily Irish (85%). This seems exaggerated, based on what I know about my ancestry, and what I recorded on Ancestry itself.

My fathers results are only 37% Irish and show up many of the regions I would expect. If I add my fathers Ireland and NW Scotland result, that stat is close to the 48% Irish he records on Ancestry. It is not close to the 63% I have on ancestry, more 94%.

Given the low 37% Irish from my father, the 85% Irish statistic for myself seems wrong. I was thinking of buying a LivingDNA kit as it may show more accurate results for myself. Would this be a waste of money? Would it show the same sort of result?

I did an upload (23andMe) and a kit. I have a smaller amount of Irish than you but I would say the kit more accurately assessed my Irish (ancestors from Co. Clare and Laois), English, and definitely my continental Germanic ancestry. Results below (upload on left, kit on right).

As jadegreg suggested, I'd wait until they have an update with more sampling. (If that ever happens.)
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