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Dimaggio1103
04-08-2014, 06:04 AM
So I got tested at 23andme and it gave me R1b1b2a1a haplogroup. Which is outdated and actually R1b1a2a1a. My question is how would one go about searching through the raw data for SNPs to further find my subblade. I assume I cannot just be R1b1a2a1a which split at I believe the bronze age. I have tried promethease but cannot understand results as it gives me a bunch of results for y haplogroup. I really dont feel like paying a couple hundred more just to find out through FTDNA. Any help would very much be appreciated. I have been researching for weeks and come up empty.

A little on my background. I don't know my father his last name was McCargar which family lore states is either Irish or Scottish, and beyond that nothing. I figured that as I have a dark red beard and auburn hair. My two kids have also red tinge to their hair. I am more than willing to upload any data or share any info. 23andme states im 99% northern European. 33% Irish/British (Scotland in there >:( ) 11% french german and 3% scandanavian, rest is in unspecified northern european.

Again thanks for any help this has been a nightmare to try and figure out.

MikeWhalen
04-08-2014, 02:21 PM
Hi Dimaggio-welcome to the forum!

There are many more folks around here that can help you better than I, but I can throw a few suggestions, you might have already done them...

I to have results from 23& me, of course one of the problems will be that there are alot more Y snp's that have been discovered in the last year through other tests so trying to keep up with the hunt for your 'terminal' snp can be quite a challenge
Many of us no longer go by the ridiculous 17 letter string of alphabet soup (ie R1b1a2a1a) that defines a haplogroup, as its just gotten crazy how fast it all changes and shifts. There was a time I would have known what 23&me means as your terminal SNP but no longer...I suggest you call your haplogroup by the actual SNP, like R-L21 or what not-it will be simpler for both you and everyone else

I'm not sure your going to have any luck finding a deeper or terminal SNP from your 23&me results as they already have, 'theoretically' found the terminal snp from what they have tested...you might get lucky and check if they tested a relevant snp but was not yet identified as a legitimate haplogroup snp-but just so you know, odds are, you will have to get more testing done, as have the rest of us, to chase down your newest haplogroup

in any case, if you do want to manually search your 23 results, which is fairly easy, here is a simple 'ish' way to do it

-once you have the actual SNP according to 23, you could check some of the lists out there that detail the known 'downstream' SNP's, ISSOG has one big tree http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html you can check
-others have easier to read one like MikeWWW's , this is the one I use for my group, I'm not sure its the one for you, if not, there are other simpler tree's to use.... https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R-L21/
-mine for instance was ID'd by 23&Me as R-L21, later testing elsewhere showed me to be L21-L513 (FTdna a la cart), later, with even more testing I did a manual search for the 8 known SNP's downstream of L513 and the new test NG's Geno-2, tested for some, but not all of them-no luck

Once you have identified all the possible downstream SNP's of your official Terminal SNP, you can then find thier Rs # with this link.... http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_YDNA_SNP_Index.html
once you have the rs#, you can use the search feature on the 23&me raw data page of results and see if they have the new SNP's and if you were ancestor or derived

If you already know these little tricks, I guess I typed a bunch of stuff for nothing...time for another coffee :)

If I was unclear or missed a step, my appologies, let me know

bottom line, with all the new finds in the world of SNP's, dont be suprised if you have to decide to get more testing

good luck

Mike

Clinton P
04-08-2014, 03:24 PM
Just to put things in to perspective, and to show how things have moved on and have left 23andMe Y-DNA testing behind….

23andMe currently tests for 2,329 Y-DNA SNPs (of which ~1,005 have failed). So, realistically, 23andMe test for ~1,324 Y-DNA SNPs.

There are over 52,000 Y-DNA SNPs currently registered, and the number is growing every week.

So you can see, 23andMe only offers about 2.5% of the Y-DNA SNPs that are known.

To get the full picture….
NatGeo tests for ~12,000 Y-DNA SNPs and BritainsDNA tests for ~14,000 Y-DNA SNPs.

Clinton P

Dimaggio1103
04-08-2014, 03:36 PM
So basically then there is nothing I can do. I have to go pay someone else now to find out where my paternal line comes from. what a waste of money 23andme is. is there autismal ethnicity even correct? I wish I would have known this from the start. So who is the best bet to find my true haplogroup without paying an ungodly amount?

MikeWhalen
04-08-2014, 03:44 PM
National Geographics Geno-2 test is a pretty good bang for the buck...depending on sales, between 160-199 US I think....does alot more of the Y snp's than 23&me, but not all of them...also does a deep job on the MTdna and autosomal stuff, but I'm not sure your interested.

The other way, if you learn your way around the different SNP tree's...)Which is your actual terminal SNP as per 23 anyway?) is to do FTdna's a la cart testing, you might be able to narrow down the possibilities to 2-3 and then get the 30-40 $ test for each snp to see if you have it...but that is a gamble and you have to know your stuff and be lucky in narrowing it down

anyway, my 2 cents is the Geno 2 through NG, the test is actually done by FTdna and you can put your results in their huge data base-you might find an interesting match somewhere that helps in your hunt for your roots

Mike

evon
04-08-2014, 03:47 PM
So basically then there is nothing I can do. I have to go pay someone else now to find out where my paternal line comes from. what a waste of money 23andme is. is there autismal ethnicity even correct? I wish I would have known this from the start. So who is the best bet to find my true haplogroup without paying an ungodly amount?

Autosomal DNA is much more important (bigger part of your ancestry) then YDNA and mtDNA results, so its hardly a waste of money ;)

Dimaggio1103
04-08-2014, 03:49 PM
So if I roll with nat geo what are the odds of them giving me the BS Haplogroup designation that 23andme just gave me? if the odds of them refining it are 95% then i will definitely do it.

Dimaggio1103
04-08-2014, 03:50 PM
So their autosomal is accurate?

evon
04-08-2014, 03:52 PM
So their autosomal is accurate?

You mean Ancestry composition? The DNA is correct, but the tools that 23andme have are not infallible, i would check out Gedmatch.com for more info.. You will need to get familiar with the various tools at 23andme.com if you are to investigate the results you have been given...

Dimaggio1103
04-08-2014, 03:56 PM
Yes sir I did that already. GEDMatch gives me weird results like romanian, orcadian and freaking denmark. lol I went my whole life thinking I was Italian but get 0% Italian. I used Euro K13 with oracle

So on the haplogroup front is the FtDNA 67 marker test better than geno 2.0?

Mehrdad
04-08-2014, 04:05 PM
Well if it makes you feel better my wife's autosomal from 23andMe has her as mostly Scandinavian and her father as mostly British Isles.

Clinton P
04-08-2014, 04:19 PM
A little on my background. I don't know my father his last name was McCargar which family lore states is either Irish or Scottish, and beyond that nothing. I figured that as I have a dark red beard and auburn hair. My two kids have also red tinge to their hair. I am more than willing to upload any data or share any info. 23andme states im 99% northern European. 33% Irish/British (Scotland in there >:( ) 11% french german and 3% scandanavian, rest is in unspecified northern european.

Since your paternal ancestry appears to be European, I would suggest BritainsDNA may be the better choice, for the following reason....

NatGeo has selected their 12,000 Y-DNA SNPs from a worldwide population, whereas BritainsDNA have selected their 14,000 Y-DNA SNPs from a mainly European population and therefore has a bias in favour of haplogroup R1b1a2a1a.

Clinton P

Dimaggio1103
04-08-2014, 04:45 PM
That's over 300 USD though. That's an expensive question to ask. lol

I really just want to know were I come from, was hoping autosomal DNA would tell me that but gives me vague British/Irish Which includes scotland. So I still have no way of separating if im Irish or Scottish. So was hoping Haplogroup might give me more luck. Kinda bummed man. Since haplogroup is out of the question for now any advice on ethnicity calculators? Like I said the euro K13 gave me weird results at a distance of 2.6 dodecade got me below .9 but the results seemed even more weird.

Joe B
04-08-2014, 05:05 PM
Welcome to Anthrogenica.
If you want to get a good look at your paternal background, short tandem repeats (http://isogg.org/wiki/Y-STR) (STRs) are a necessary componant in addition to SNPs. Look at the R1b and Subclades Gateway Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/default.aspx?section=ycolorized) for a good look at STRs and other good information.
ISOGG wiki is a great resourse. Y-DNA STR testing chart (http://isogg.org/wiki/Y-DNA_STR_testing_chart)

Good Luck

Clinton P
04-08-2014, 05:06 PM
That's over 300 USD though. That's an expensive question to ask. lol

I really just want to know were I come from, was hoping autosomal DNA would tell me that but gives me vague British/Irish Which includes scotland. So I still have no way of separating if im Irish or Scottish. So was hoping Haplogroup might give me more luck. Kinda bummed man. Since haplogroup is out of the question for now any advice on ethnicity calculators? Like I said the euro K13 gave me weird results at a distance of 2.6 dodecade got me below .9 but the results seemed even more weird.

Try this .... SPatial Ancestry analysis (SPA) "model" files from Eurogenes (http://www.bga101.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/spatial-ancestry-analysis-spa-model.html)

Clinton P

Dimaggio1103
04-08-2014, 05:27 PM
Try this .... SPatial Ancestry analysis (SPA) "model" files from Eurogenes (http://www.bga101.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/spatial-ancestry-analysis-spa-model.html)

Clinton P

I tried that just now. Using single out put it put me at austria, double or split out put came out as Denmark first and off the cost of greece and italy for the second. Does not seem accurate at all. Why do I keep getting Denmark? Nobody in my family that I know of is from there??

Dimaggio1103
04-08-2014, 05:40 PM
Ok i tried again using the europe model I used the eurasian the first time. Europe model is intresting. It puts me of the cost of Aberdeen Scotland, and kinda close to orkney islands. The McCargar last name was thought to either come from Irland or abrdeen scottland. My gedmatch comes up with orcadian a few times, and 23and me just puts me in 11% British/Irish and unspecified northern european. Is this pretty official I am of Scottish heritage? My second marker is of the cost of france, not sure what thats about though. Maybe italy?

Jessie
08-14-2016, 11:31 AM
Ok i tried again using the europe model I used the eurasian the first time. Europe model is intresting. It puts me of the cost of Aberdeen Scotland, and kinda close to orkney islands. The McCargar last name was thought to either come from Irland or abrdeen scottland. My gedmatch comes up with orcadian a few times, and 23and me just puts me in 11% British/Irish and unspecified northern european. Is this pretty official I am of Scottish heritage? My second marker is of the cost of france, not sure what thats about though. Maybe italy?

What do you get on Eurogenes K13 and K15? If you could put the full Oracle list including you mixed mode Oracles that could help.

sktibo
09-17-2016, 10:37 AM
Hi there,

Curious about Y haplogroup, 23andme kit gave me the old "R1b1b2a1a" I can't recall what it is in modern terminology, but I've read that often it turns out that these are actually U106? anything I can do by looking at the SNP's to try and figure anything out further? thank you.

ArmandoR1b
09-17-2016, 12:31 PM
Hi there,

Curious about Y haplogroup, 23andme kit gave me the old "R1b1b2a1a" I can't recall what it is in modern terminology, but I've read that often it turns out that these are actually U106? anything I can do by looking at the SNP's to try and figure anything out further? thank you.

U106 is R1b1b2a1a1. You are negative for U106, L21, and U152 which are all tested by 23andme. That means you have a very high likelihood of being positive for DF27, DF99, DF19, L238, or A9063 with DF27 being the most common of those but you need an R1b SNP pack from FTDNA or the R1b panel from Yseq.net to confirm your subclade.

If you still want to look at your raw data and compare it to other SNPs these are most of the R1b SNPs tested by 23andme and their mutations.

R1b1b2 rs9786153 T->C R1b-M269
R1b1b2a rs9786142 T->A R1b-L49
R1b1b2a1 rs9786140 G->A R1b-L51
R1b1b2a1a rs13304168 C->T L52 (phylogenetically equivalent to L11/S127, L151, P310/S129, P311/S128
R1b1b2a1a1 rs16981293 C>T (M405/S21/U106) R1b-U106
R1b1b2a1a1a rs17222279 G->A (M467/S29/U198) downstream of R1b-U106
R1b1b2a1a1d rs13303755 G->T (L48) downstream of R1b-U106
R1b1b2a1a1d1 rs34283263 G->A (L47) downstream of R1b-U106
R1b1b2a1a1d1a rs34738655 G->A L44
R1b1b2a1a1d1a1 rs35760092 T->G L45, L46, L164
R1b1b2a1a2 rs34276300 C->A (P312) not tested in v3 or v4
R1b1b2a1a2b i3000029 A->T M153 downstream of DF27
R1b1b2a1a2c i3000043 G->A M167/SRY2627 downstream of DF27
R1b1b2a1a2d rs1236440 C->T (S28) R1b-U152 downstream of P312
R1b1b2a1a2d3* rs2566671 C->T R1b-L2 downstream of R1b-U152
R1b1b2a1a2d3a rs7067305 G->A R1b-L20 downstream of R1b-L2
R1b1b2a1a2f rs11799226 C->G (L21) R1b-L21 downstream of P312
R1b1b2a1a2f2 rs20321 G->A R1b-M222 downstream of R1b-L21

You can plug those longhand named in to the mutation mapper at 23andme to see their mutations.

If you are not on the new experience the mutation mapper is at https://www.23andme.com/you/labs/haplogroup_tree_mut_mapper/

If you are on the new experience the mutation mapper is at https://www.23andme.com/you/labs/haplogroup_tree_mut_mapper/results/?lineage_type=paternal&haplogroup

JohnHowellsTyrfro
09-17-2016, 04:41 PM
That's over 300 USD though. That's an expensive question to ask. lol

I really just want to know were I come from, was hoping autosomal DNA would tell me that but gives me vague British/Irish Which includes scotland. So I still have no way of separating if im Irish or Scottish. So was hoping Haplogroup might give me more luck. Kinda bummed man. Since haplogroup is out of the question for now any advice on ethnicity calculators? Like I said the euro K13 gave me weird results at a distance of 2.6 dodecade got me below .9 but the results seemed even more weird.

Would Family Finder be any use to you? It's quite reasonably priced I think. I'm awaiting test results although I'm not really sure what it is going to tell me.

sktibo
09-17-2016, 10:45 PM
U106 is R1b1b2a1a1. You are negative for U106, L21, and U152 which are all tested by 23andme. That means you have a very high likelihood of being positive for DF27, DF99, DF19, L238, or A9063 with DF27 being the most common of those but you need an R1b SNP pack from FTDNA or the R1b panel from Yseq.net to confirm your subclade.

If you still want to look at your raw data and compare it to other SNPs these are most of the R1b SNPs tested by 23andme and their mutations.

R1b1b2 rs9786153 T->C R1b-M269
R1b1b2a rs9786142 T->A R1b-L49
R1b1b2a1 rs9786140 G->A R1b-L51
R1b1b2a1a rs13304168 C->T L52 (phylogenetically equivalent to L11/S127, L151, P310/S129, P311/S128
R1b1b2a1a1 rs16981293 C>T (M405/S21/U106) R1b-U106
R1b1b2a1a1a rs17222279 G->A (M467/S29/U198) downstream of R1b-U106
R1b1b2a1a1d rs13303755 G->T (L48) downstream of R1b-U106
R1b1b2a1a1d1 rs34283263 G->A (L47) downstream of R1b-U106
R1b1b2a1a1d1a rs34738655 G->A L44
R1b1b2a1a1d1a1 rs35760092 T->G L45, L46, L164
R1b1b2a1a2 rs34276300 C->A (P312) not tested in v3 or v4
R1b1b2a1a2b i3000029 A->T M153 downstream of DF27
R1b1b2a1a2c i3000043 G->A M167/SRY2627 downstream of DF27
R1b1b2a1a2d rs1236440 C->T (S28) R1b-U152 downstream of P312
R1b1b2a1a2d3* rs2566671 C->T R1b-L2 downstream of R1b-U152
R1b1b2a1a2d3a rs7067305 G->A R1b-L20 downstream of R1b-L2
R1b1b2a1a2f rs11799226 C->G (L21) R1b-L21 downstream of P312
R1b1b2a1a2f2 rs20321 G->A R1b-M222 downstream of R1b-L21

You can plug those longhand named in to the mutation mapper at 23andme to see their mutations.

If you are not on the new experience the mutation mapper is at https://www.23andme.com/you/labs/haplogroup_tree_mut_mapper/

If you are on the new experience the mutation mapper is at https://www.23andme.com/you/labs/haplogroup_tree_mut_mapper/results/?lineage_type=paternal&haplogroup

Hi and thank you for your help.
I went to 23andme, plugged in all the mutations listed, and they all scored "ancestral" which assume means negative. The only thing that was strange was that when I entered R1b1b2a1a2 (P312), the SNP was greyed out and I wasn't able to click on it to see whether it was ancestral or derived.

ArmandoR1b
09-18-2016, 04:21 AM
Hi and thank you for your help.
I went to 23andme, plugged in all the mutations listed, and they all scored "ancestral" which assume means negative. The only thing that was strange was that when I entered R121b1b2a1a2 (P312), the SNP was greyed out and I wasn't able to click on it to see whether it was ancestral or derived.
Yes, ancestral is negative. Where did you look up your results? Did you download your raw data or go to https://you.23andme.com/tools/data/ or the older site? You should be derived (positive) for the following;

R1b1b2 rs9786153 T->C R1b-M269
R1b1b2a rs9786142 T->A R1b-L49
R1b1b2a1 rs9786140 G->A R1b-L51

R121b1b2a1a2 (P312) wasn't tested in v3 or v4 and you were probably tested after v4 came out. Check their page on the dates for the different versions (https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/218392668-Understanding-the-different-versions-of-the-23andMe-genotyping-chip). The only way to know if you are positive for it is to get tested with another company.

sktibo
09-18-2016, 07:21 AM
Yes, ancestral is negative. Where did you look up your results? Did you download your raw data or go to https://you.23andme.com/tools/data/ or the older site? You should be derived (positive) for the following;

R1b1b2 rs9786153 T->C R1b-M269
R1b1b2a rs9786142 T->A R1b-L49
R1b1b2a1 rs9786140 G->A R1b-L51

R121b1b2a1a2 (P312) wasn't tested in v3 or v4 and you were probably tested after v4 came out. Check their page on the dates for the different versions (https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/218392668-Understanding-the-different-versions-of-the-23andMe-genotyping-chip). The only way to know if you are positive for it is to get tested with another company.

Got the kit March 2013, v3 I think.. that explains that. I used the older site. Should I download and double check?

ArmandoR1b
09-18-2016, 11:18 AM
Got the kit March 2013, v3 I think.. that explains that. I used the older site. Should I download and double check?

You can download the raw data but you will be derived for the following:
R1b1b2 rs9786153 T->C R1b-M269
R1b1b2a rs9786142 T->A R1b-L49
R1b1b2a1 rs9786140 G->A R1b-L51
R1b1b2a1a rs13304168 C->T L52 (phylogenetically equivalent to L11/S127, L151, P310/S129, P311/S128

But you will be ancestral for the rest. So you aren't going to learn anything new other than what has been presented to you.

You can also use the 23andMe To YSNPs tool at http://www.y-str.org/p/tools-utilities.html in order to have an output with a column that tells you if you are derived or not. That program doesn't take into consideration recurrent mutations though.

sktibo
09-18-2016, 11:24 AM
You can download the raw data but you will be derived for the following:
R1b1b2 rs9786153 T->C R1b-M269
R1b1b2a rs9786142 T->A R1b-L49
R1b1b2a1 rs9786140 G->A R1b-L51
R1b1b2a1a rs13304168 C->T L52 (phylogenetically equivalent to L11/S127, L151, P310/S129, P311/S128

But you will be ancestral for the rest. So you aren't going to learn anything new other than what has been presented to you.

You can also use the 23andMe To YSNPs tool at http://www.y-str.org/p/tools-utilities.html in order to have an output with a column that tells you if you are derived or not. That program doesn't take into consideration recurrent mutations though.

Thank you for your help with this.. so if I intend to learn my Y Dna, I'll need to buy one of the rather expensive Y kits... 67 marker minimum is it?

ArmandoR1b
09-18-2016, 11:46 AM
Thank you for your help with this.. so if I intend to learn my Y Dna, I'll need to buy one of the rather expensive Y kits... 67 marker minimum is it?

You can get a $59 12-marker test at https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=R1b and then a $119 SNP pack and if positive for a DF27 subclade you can get that $119 SNP pack.

Or you can get the $75 R1b panel (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=16349) at YSEQ and then if you are positive for DF27 then you can get the $88 DF27 Panel (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=10749) Testing at Yseq is much faster than FTDNA but you can't do STR matching with the FTDNA STR database.

rms2
09-19-2016, 01:18 AM
You can get a $59 12-marker test at https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=R1b and then a $119 SNP pack and if positive for a DF27 subclade you can get that $119 SNP pack.

Or you can get the $75 R1b panel (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=16349) at YSEQ and then if you are positive for DF27 then you can get the $88 DF27 Panel (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=10749) Testing at Yseq is much faster than FTDNA but you can't do STR matching with the FTDNA STR database.

By the time FTDNA gets done with charging you the return postage for the y-dna kit, that 12-marker test costs you $72.00. I know, because I have ponied up for a couple of them lately. I wish FTDNA would make things easier . . . and quicker.

rms2
09-19-2016, 01:21 AM
So I got tested at 23andme and it gave me R1b1b2a1a haplogroup. Which is outdated and actually R1b1a2a1a. My question is how would one go about searching through the raw data for SNPs to further find my subblade. I assume I cannot just be R1b1a2a1a which split at I believe the bronze age. I have tried promethease but cannot understand results as it gives me a bunch of results for y haplogroup. I really dont feel like paying a couple hundred more just to find out through FTDNA. Any help would very much be appreciated. I have been researching for weeks and come up empty.

A little on my background. I don't know my father his last name was McCargar which family lore states is either Irish or Scottish, and beyond that nothing. I figured that as I have a dark red beard and auburn hair. My two kids have also red tinge to their hair. I am more than willing to upload any data or share any info. 23andme states im 99% northern European. 33% Irish/British (Scotland in there >:( ) 11% french german and 3% scandanavian, rest is in unspecified northern european.

Again thanks for any help this has been a nightmare to try and figure out.

By the way, have you checked your 23andMe results for the red hair variants?

Here is a table that shows some of the most common of them. I carry Arg160Trp (R160W).

11733

sktibo
09-21-2016, 11:31 PM
By the way, have you checked your 23andMe results for the red hair variants?

Here is a table that shows some of the most common of them. I carry Arg160Trp (R160W).

11733

R160W also.

I expected more red hair genes in my report because more of my hair is red than it is dark/brown. Are you half ginger as well?

A Norfolk L-M20
09-22-2016, 06:30 AM
A little on my background. I don't know my father his last name was McCargar which family lore states is either Irish or Scottish, and beyond that nothing. I figured that as I have a dark red beard and auburn hair. My two kids have also red tinge to their hair. I am more than willing to upload any data or share any info. 23andme states im 99% northern European. 33% Irish/British (Scotland in there >:( ) 11% french german and 3% scandanavian, rest is in unspecified northern european.

Again thanks for any help this has been a nightmare to try and figure out.

As long as you are aware (which I am sure that you are), that a Y haplogroup simply follows one very narrow line of ancestry - not even a substantial part of your ancestry. For example, I'm fully English and well documented as such. However, My nearest Big Y lives in SW Pakistan, and my nearest Y111 came from Eastern Iran. My Y does not make me Asian. There is absolutely no indication on any autosome analysis of any remaining Asian. 23andMe for example, has me as 100% European, and 96% NW European.

Neither is red hair any indicator of Irish or Scottish. I have no recorded Irish or Scottish, but I do grow a red beard.

Although this has been posted in a haplogroup board, what I can't resist posting though, is that your 23andMe AC does not look very Irish or Scottish. If you are North American, of general European heritage, then chances are you've had admixture from various parts of Europe. However, your AC results are actually very close to mine. (37% British & Irish, 22% French and German, 1% Scandinavian) and as I said, I'm a well documented local East Anglian in SE England. I'm a big critic of autosomal DNA testing for ancestry. However, I have looked an awful lot at British results, and I can tell you that your results do not look very much like someone with strong Irish or Scottish ancestry. It doesn't mean that you don't have Irish or Scottish ancestry, you more than likely do, and your surname fits for that line. However, the Irish and Scottish usually score 85% to 98% on the 23andMe "British & Irish" percentage in spec mode. I'm not suggesting that you are strong East Anglian, or even English. You are American. But your autosomal results for ancestry suggest a lot of NW European admixture.

By all means chase your Y, I've chased mine all of the way. Y-DNA is cool. But don't go thinking that it represents your entire heritage. Only one of your sixteen great grandparents may have carried it. Seven of them most likely carried veryquite different Y haplogroups.