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LUKE33
04-08-2014, 09:22 AM
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I am posting the primary N1b2 Jewish Full mtDNA sequence here for the benefit of newer members.

I would like to thank Bennett Greenspan ( https://www.familytreedna.com/ ) for sending me the snapshot image .

Members are more than welcome to add further information about N1b2.

Good day to you !

Rathna
04-08-2014, 09:50 AM
This is what Costa et al. 2013 write:

"In our unpublished database of 6991 HVS-I sequences, however, we identified two Italian samples with the 16176A marker, which we completely sequenced. We confirmed that they belong to N1b2 but diverge before the Ashkenazi lineages ~5 ka, nesting the Ashkenazi cluster (Fig. 6; Supplementary Table S5). This striking result suggests that the Italian lineages may be relicts of a dispersal from the Near East into Europe before 5 ka, and that N1b2 was assimilated into the ancestral Ashkenazi population on the north Mediterranean ~2 ka. Although we found only two samples suggesting an Italian ancestry for N1b2, the control-region database available for inspection is very large (28,418 HVS-I sequences from Europe, the Near East and the Caucasus, of which 278, or ~1%, were N1b). Moreover, the conclusion is supported by our previous founder analysis of N1b HVS-I sequences, which dated the dispersal into Europe to the late Pleistocene/early Holocene24".

P.S. Perhaps you should know that I wrote this many years ago on some forum, that, even though many deleted my posts, I conserve printed and probably they are running on the web yet.

FourEyedLady
01-25-2015, 05:23 AM
I am 50% N1b2 but what am I supposed to do with the sequence you posted?

AJL
01-25-2015, 07:13 PM
I am 50% N1b2 but what am I supposed to do with the sequence you posted?

What do you mean "50% N1b2"? Where did you test, and at what level, and what mutations do you have?

rashir
04-07-2015, 04:23 AM
Hi. I'm mtDNA N1b2 as well. I have the 16176C marker and not G to A. Does anyone out there know what this means? I'm Ashkenazi Jewish (93.1%). Looking forward to yr responses.

kingjohn
09-23-2016, 02:13 PM
to what is your opinion ?
on this mtdna n1b2 in lombard remain:

Lombard

Hungary

Szolad [13, 22]



530-600 AD






N1b2



Alt 2014

source :http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0110793

n1b2 is a typical aschenazi clade so very wierd to find it in lombard remain they are germanic tribes :\

rashir
10-31-2016, 04:05 PM
Hi guys. Am I correct in guessing that our mt DNA haplogroup N1b2, N1b, N1b1, etc are exclusively Jewish haplogroups?

Your thoughts? It seems that way to me.

GailT
10-31-2016, 09:24 PM
Behar has an age estimate of about 20,000 years for N1b so it would not be limited to a Jewish population. You would need to look at individual subclades of N1b to find ones that might specifically indicate Jewish maternal ancestry.

The comments above and the paper linked to above appear to use an old version of Phylotree, and the samples rare N1b1, not N1b2. There are only 3 N1b2 samples in GenBank, from Somalia and Yemen, but there might be more N1b2 samples at FTDNA. Did you test the full mtDNA sequence and join the N haplogroup project?

Omaar
08-20-2018, 12:33 PM
Hi. I'm mtDNA N1b2 as well. I have the 16176C marker and not G to A. Does anyone out there know what this means? I'm Ashkenazi Jewish (93.1%). Looking forward to yr responses.
Have you done FMS (mtFullSequence test)?

Omaar
09-09-2018, 10:00 AM
1696

I am posting the primary N1b2 Jewish Full mtDNA sequence here for the benefit of newer members.

I would like to thank Bennett Greenspan ( https://www.familytreedna.com/ ) for sending me the snapshot image .

Members are more than welcome to add further information about N1b2.

Good day to you !
I received my Full Mitochondrial Sequence (FMS) results from FTDNA and it is N1b2.
"Haplogroup N1b2 is a branch on the maternal tree of human kind. The woman who started this branch lived at some point between recent generations and 3,200 years ago (Behar et al., 2012b).
"This lineage is one of the founding lineages among Ashkenazi Jews. It is a significant percentage of maternal lineages among them. However, it is rare outside of this isolated population, making its exact origin unclear."

Fungene
09-09-2018, 01:02 PM
I received my Full Mitochondrial Sequence (FMS) results from FTDNA and it is N1b2.
"Haplogroup N1b2 is a branch on the maternal tree of human kind. The woman who started this branch lived at some point between recent generations and 3,200 years ago (Behar et al., 2012b).
"This lineage is one of the founding lineages among Ashkenazi Jews. It is a significant percentage of maternal lineages among them. However, it is rare outside of this isolated population, making its exact origin unclear."

There is more recent information. N1b2 is older than 3200 years:
Sample #I2431, 4725-4605 calBCE, Bulgaria Middle Chalcolithic, Ivanono, Bulgaria is N1b2. His Y-haplogroup is G2a2b2a1a1c1a.
That's over 6600 years ago.

The parent clade, N1b is much older:
Sample #I1072, 11840-9760 BCE, Natufian, Raqefet Cave, Israel, is N1b. His Y-haplogroup is E1b1b1b2.
Interesting to see the difference between estimates and dates of ancient samples.

Omaar
09-09-2018, 04:30 PM
But, there is difference between “formed” and “TMRCA”? The statement of (Behar et al., 2012b) means “TMRCA”.

Fungene
09-09-2018, 06:34 PM
But, there is difference between “formed” and “TMRCA”? The statement of (Behar et al., 2012b) means “TMRCA”.

Behar’s 2008 and Costa’s 2013 studies were based on modern mtDNA samples. Their TMRCA and time of formation are estimates established by applying statistical calculations to information from modern DNA (and making assumptions about a few things, such as mutation rates.)
Ancient DNA gives empirical data from the past. It is still not easy to obtain and comparatively rare. In weighing evidence about the past, common sense suggests that information from ancient DNA should supersede estimates based on modern DNA.

Omaar
03-27-2019, 03:54 PM
There is more recent information. N1b2 is older than 3200 years:
Sample #I2431, 4725-4605 calBCE, Bulgaria Middle Chalcolithic, Ivanono, Bulgaria is N1b2. His Y-haplogroup is G2a2b2a1a1c1a.
That's over 6600 years ago.

The parent clade, N1b is much older:
Sample #I1072, 11840-9760 BCE, Natufian, Raqefet Cave, Israel, is N1b. His Y-haplogroup is E1b1b1b2.
Interesting to see the difference between estimates and dates of ancient samples.

I uploaded my mtdna's FASTA file on Yfull. It was N1b2. It turned out to be a new subclade N1b2a formed 15400 ybp, TMRCA 9300 ybp. So far It was found in Yemen and Somalia. Is it Natufian?

NetNomad
03-27-2019, 04:01 PM
I uploaded my mtdna's FASTA file on Yfull. It was N1b2. It turned out to be a new subclade N1b2a formed 15400 ybp, TMRCA 9300 ybp. So far It was found in Yemen and Somalia. Is it Natufian?

Likely.

Or a population related to them of whom the name/material culture is unknown.

Шад
03-31-2019, 05:43 PM
1696

I am posting the primary N1b2 Jewish Full mtDNA sequence here for the benefit of newer members.

I would like to thank Bennett Greenspan ( https://www.familytreedna.com/ ) for sending me the snapshot image .

Members are more than welcome to add further information about N1b2.

Good day to you !

https://yfull.com/mtree/N1b/

eshl
10-14-2019, 08:17 AM
Based on the research paper from Fudan University in China, they found evidence of majority of Mongolian Tuo Clan belong to N1B2.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333631601_Molecular_genealogy_of_Tusi_Lu's_family_ reveals_their_paternal_relationship_with_Jochi_Gen ghis_Khan's_eldest_son