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timberwolf
05-29-2021, 11:12 PM
I received this email from them this morning.

Looks to be quite expensive $25 each test, has anyone actually done these tests?


Dear

We have released Advanced Ancestry Analysis, curated by Nicola Capelli. This is the combination of new research with exclusive population samples.

Pangea is optimised for all ethnic groups.

Eurasia is particularly accurate for people with origins in Europe and West Asia.

Both tests contain a modern and ancient genetic ancestry analysis, with maps and charts to illustrate your results.

Pangea and Eurasia will have frequent updates and you will also be able to unlock new samples over time.

We have also updated and added new populations samples to the free ancestry oracles!

If you would like to discuss your health and ancestry results from yourDNAportal you can join our new Facebook group

Best wishes

Gemma and the team at yourDNAportal.com

HBA39
05-29-2021, 11:26 PM
I received this email from them this morning.

Looks to be quite expensive $25 each test, has anyone actually done these tests?


Dear

We have released Advanced Ancestry Analysis, curated by Nicola Capelli. This is the combination of new research with exclusive population samples.

Pangea is optimised for all ethnic groups.

Eurasia is particularly accurate for people with origins in Europe and West Asia.

Both tests contain a modern and ancient genetic ancestry analysis, with maps and charts to illustrate your results.

Pangea and Eurasia will have frequent updates and you will also be able to unlock new samples over time.

We have also updated and added new populations samples to the free ancestry oracles!

If you would like to discuss your health and ancestry results from yourDNAportal you can join our new Facebook group

Best wishes

Gemma and the team at yourDNAportal.com

I tried it. Bunch of crap.

digital_noise
05-30-2021, 12:29 AM
I must have given the email a half assed read because I missed the part where they charged for it. I’m done spending money on these raw data analysis products. For $25 they need to provide some examples, walk us through the results etc….(again, maybe they did and I just missed it). As it stands it smells just like all the other cash grabs out there. I don’t need another 1000 genomes project assessment.

Mstock
05-30-2021, 03:20 AM
I tried it and it put me mostly Cornish and welsh. It was a pile of crap. Not even close.

jadegreg
05-30-2021, 12:06 PM
I tried it and it put me mostly Cornish and welsh. It was a pile of crap. Not even close.

I'll take that if you don't want it! I suspect, based on other oracles from yourdnaportal, I'd end up with your German and Norwegian.

hantrolugharsts
05-31-2021, 11:02 AM
Well, it worked very well for me for this result of an Italian ancestor that 23andMe had detected but they had not been able to locate the genes in a specific place, but YourdnaPortal also detected it and located it.

And our position for dnaY is here
BY7449 E-BY7566 YF66572 YF66572
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My father's mitochondrial haplogroup
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EO-ec3-YgHA/YJGgAke1s3I/AAAAAAAAGJ0/igZN5R_zuvggWY5MMyJ2A9KR2zPAnatMQCLcBGAsYHQ/s170/U6a3b1.jpeg

Results of my father:

23andMe

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0E5mceOxdDw/YDLCMD1Cw1I/AAAAAAAAF20/gVd5gFlitFoOx0UsUl7S8zmxvWb_fteuQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1273/Pap%25C3%25A1SpanishItalian.jpeg

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YourdnaPortal 23andMe File
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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-86zutaFKLUo/YLN0Kex7oYI/AAAAAAAAGRc/315yYhpsxX8VAwFOPDYNV8sffKo9kP2KACLcBGAsYHQ/s1302/ModernMape2mape.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_YjUG9uXm6g/YLN1HIO7ChI/AAAAAAAAGRs/nuc4uYS0GP08MSxPySu1bqCr8AdLgRlmACLcBGAsYHQ/s1299/ModernMape3.jpeg

Italy_Prealps : 2%
The Lombardian Alps and Prealps extend from the northern border of Lombardy, and indeed of Italy, with Switzerland, down to the valley of the river Po, gradually descending from Alpine mountain ranges through hills down to a pretty flat landscape with an Alpine backdrop closer to the river. Administratively, this region encompasses three Lombardian provinces - Bergamo, Brescia and Sondrio. The Venetian Prealps (Prealpi Venete in Italian) are a mountain range in the south-eastern part of the Alps. They are located in Triveneto, in the north-eastern part of Italy. Administratively the range is divided between the Italian provinces of Trento (in the Region of Trentino Alto Adige), Verona, Vicenza, Treviso, Belluno (in the Region of Veneto) and Pordenone (in the Region of Friuli Venezia Giulia). The Venetian Prealps are drained by the rivers Adige, Brenta, Piave and other minor rivers and streams, all of them tributaries of the Adriatic sea.

MR J
06-01-2021, 01:17 AM
My results were pretty good. Too much Scandinavian but I suppose it's from my British Isles ancestry. According to the moderators, the updates will be frequent. 448874488844889

Hazmatnik
06-03-2021, 04:51 AM
Very entertaining, without much sense, except maybe fourth oracle run.
For the amount of laughter i produced it was well worth!

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lifeisdandy
06-03-2021, 06:35 PM
What is the levant_nabataean even based on? I'm like 80% of it

Mariusz95
06-03-2021, 11:00 PM
Pangea modern seems to be the best for me:

Eastern Slav 90.5 %
Norway 9%

Second oracle run:

Eastern Slav 87.5 %
Sweden 12.5 %

Nicola made a very good job with this report. As always.

Garimund
06-04-2021, 12:29 AM
Pretty neat addition to Yourdnaportal.

Pangea Moderns:
Main:

England 36%
Ireland 36%
Gascony 22.5%
Baltic 2.5%
Alania 1.5%
Somalia-Eritrea 1%

Second:
Ireland 31.25%
Gascony 25%
Schleswig-Holstein 25%
England 18.75%

LesPoilus
06-05-2021, 11:13 PM
Pangea Ancient. Don't know what to think about these results.


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timberwolf
06-05-2021, 11:31 PM
Pangea Ancient. Don't know what to think about these results.


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What were your Pangea modern results?

LesPoilus
06-05-2021, 11:36 PM
What were your Pangea modern results?


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timberwolf
06-05-2021, 11:39 PM
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Ok, are you Breton and Southern French?

LesPoilus
06-05-2021, 11:47 PM
I am from different parts of France. Basically half North (including Normandy and Sarthe close to Brittany), and half South of France (Gascony and Alpes de Haute Provence).

Garimund
06-05-2021, 11:48 PM
What were your Pangea modern results?

Timberwolf, did you do this? And if so, what were your results?

timberwolf
06-05-2021, 11:53 PM
Timberwolf, did you do this? And if so, what were your results?

No mate not yet, plan to sometime in the next few weeks.

timberwolf
06-06-2021, 12:09 AM
I am from different parts of France. Basically half North (including NormaOk, ndy and Sarthe close to Brittany), and half South of France (Gascony and Alpes de Haute Provence).

Ok, then your results are not too bad, quite impressive.

casteneda
06-06-2021, 08:57 PM
Here is mine. I'm mainly Croatian from my dad's side, and a mixture of Western European/Jewish from my mom's side.

Pangea Modern:
Norway 42%
Eastern Slav 37%
Sardinia 14.5%
Ural Ugrofinnic 4%
Iran 1.5%
Papua 1%

Eurasia Modern:
Slovenia 33.5%
Baltic 24%
Wales 15.5%
Sardinia 6.5%
Savoie 5.5%
Aquitaine 5%
South Slav 4%
Cornwall 3%
Austria 1.5%
Melanesian 1%

It's interesting, but hard to say if it's good or bad for me. Middle of the road I guess. Norway seems insanely high--I usually just receive a small percentage of that on other tests. Both tests seem very Baltic/Russian heavy to me, and I have no known dna from that region. Papuan/Melanesian pops up on both results. I'm beginning to think that's real because although it doesn't pop up in the commercial tests, but that region pops up specifically for me in over 10 other tests that I've done over the years. I have no idea where it's from?

LesPoilus
06-06-2021, 09:03 PM
Here is mine. I'm mainly Croatian from my dad's side, and a mixture of Western European/Jewish from my mom's side.

Pangea Modern:
Norway 42%
Eastern Slav 37%
Sardinia 14.5%
Ural Ugrofinnic 4%
Iran 1.5%
Papua 1%

Eurasia Modern:
Slovenia 33.5%
Baltic 24%
Wales 15.5%
Sardinia 6.5%
Savoie 5.5%
Aquitaine 5%
South Slav 4%
Cornwall 3%
Austria 1.5%
Melanesian 1%

It's interesting, but hard to say if it's good or bad for me. Middle of the road I guess. Norway seems insanely high--I usually just receive a small percentage of that on other tests. Both tests seem very Baltic/Russian heavy to me, and I have no known dna from that region. Papuan/Melanesian pops up on both results. I'm beginning to think that's real because although it doesn't pop up in the commercial tests, but that region pops up specifically for me in over 10 other tests that I've done over the years. I have no idea where it's from?

Can you say which test seems the more accurate?

casteneda
06-07-2021, 03:14 AM
Can you say which test seems the more accurate?

That's really a hard call. They are both pretty similar in my case. Both turned out very Baltic heavy for me, and I am not aware of having a Baltic ancestor from the past six generations on either side of my tree, so I'm wondering if they are mixing up Baltic with Balkan (Croatian) in the results somehow.

Arnfried
06-07-2021, 04:38 PM
As I am a real patsy when I see Ancient admixture tests, I tried the two (Eurasia and Pangea), and after 42 euros less in my bank account I obtained this:



Eurasia 'Ancient':

Main oracle run
Celtic_Briton : 26.5%
Gaul_Ligurian_Cisalpina : 19%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 16.5%
Gaul_Belgae : 14.5%
Viking_Sigtuna : 5%
Alanic_Russia : 3.5%
Gaul_Arverni : 3.5%
Gaul_Allobroges : 3%
Greco_Seleucid : 3%
American_South_Guarani : 2.5%
Illyrian-Liburni : 2%
Populations under 0.5% : 1.0 % (Gaul Aedui and Viking Sweden Malmo)

Second Oracle Run
Celtic_Scot-Pict : 20%
Gaul_Redones : 15%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 15%
Gaul_Aedui : 10%
Gaul_Ligurian_Cisalpina : 10%
Gaul_Arverni : 5%
Gaul_Bituriges : 5%
Greco_Pelagonian : 5%
Greco_Seleucid : 5%
Tatar_Russia : 5%
Viking_Sweden_Malmo : 5%

Third Oracle Run
Gaul_Aedui : 20%
Gaul_Redones : 20%
Gaul_Bituriges : 10%
Gaul_Ligurian_Cisalpina : 10%
Germanic_Suebi : 10%
Illyrian-Histrii : 10%
Tatar_Russia : 10%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 10%

Fourth Oracle Run
Celtic_Briton : 50%
Gaul_Ligurian_Cisalpina : 50%



Pangea 'Ancient':

Main Oracle Run
Hallstatt_Celt : 36%
Germanic_Friesland : 20.5%
Celtic-La-Tene : 18%
Iberian : 9.5%
Assyrian : 7.5%
Anzick : 3%
Cisalpine_Gaul : 2%
North_Caucasus : 1.5%
Italic-Tribes : 1%
Mycenaean : 1%

Second Oracle Run
Hallstatt_Celt : 30%
Celtic-La-Tene : 25%
Germanic_Friesland : 15%
Cisalpine_Gaul : 15%
Anzick : 5%
Iberian : 5%
North_Caucasus : 5%

Third Oracle Run
Celtic-La-Tene : 50%
Hallstatt_Celt : 20%
Celtic_Gaul : 10%
Germanic_Friesland : 10%
Ostrogothic : 10%

Fourth Oracle Run
Celtic-La-Tene : 50%
Scythian_Hungary : 50%



It's not so bad. As I'm mainly French, I logically obtained high amount of Celtic/Gauls tribes or cultures, with small amount of Germanic, Italic and Iberian. My Native American component is still spotting, in the same proportion as usual. On the other side Assyrian is new and strange for me...

For the modern period, which interest me a little less, I give only the main oracle run:

Eurasia:

Savoie : 27.5%
Cornwall : 23.5%
Aquitaine : 15.5%
Ireland : 9.5%
Black-Sea_Anatolia : 8.5%
Scotland : 7%
America_Central : 3%
Sardinia : 2.5%
Norway : 2%
Russia_Alania : 1%



Pangea:

Aosta_Valley : 49%
Orkney : 24%
Gascony : 15.5%
Alania : 6.5%
Mayan : 3%
Italy_North : 1.5%
Populations under 0.5% : 0.5 % (Sardinia)

Trelvern
06-07-2021, 06:04 PM
Mine



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Main run

Celtic_Briton : 35.5%
Gaul_Belgae : 25.5%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 15%
Gaul_Redones : 13%
Gaul_Allobroges : 4.5%
Viking_Sigtuna : 3.5%
American_South_Guarani : 1%
Gaul_Arverni : 1%

2nd

Celtic_Briton : 25%
Gaul_Redones : 25%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 20%
Celtic_Scot-Pict : 10%
Gaul_Belgae : 5%
Illyrian-Histrii : 5%
Viking_Sigtuna : 5%
Viking_Sweden_Malmo : 5%

3rd

Celtic_Briton : 40%
Gaul_Redones : 20%
Gaul_Belgae : 10%
Greco_Pelagonian : 10%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 10%
Viking_Sigtuna : 10%

4th


Celtic_Briton : 50%
Gaul_Belgae : 50%

Arnfried
06-07-2021, 06:08 PM
Mine:


Main run

Celtic_Briton : 35.5%
Gaul_Belgae : 25.5%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 15%
Gaul_Redones : 13%
Gaul_Allobroges : 4.5%
Viking_Sigtuna : 3.5%
American_South_Guarani : 1%
Gaul_Arverni : 1%

2nd

Celtic_Briton : 25%
Gaul_Redones : 25%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 20%
Celtic_Scot-Pict : 10%
Gaul_Belgae : 5%
Illyrian-Histrii : 5%
Viking_Sigtuna : 5%
Viking_Sweden_Malmo : 5%

3rd

Celtic_Briton : 40%
Gaul_Redones : 20%
Gaul_Belgae : 10%
Greco_Pelagonian : 10%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 10%
Viking_Sigtuna : 10%

4th


Celtic_Briton : 50%
Gaul_Belgae : 50%

Our results are very close! We have almost the same populations.

LesPoilus
06-07-2021, 06:17 PM
The problem i have with these results is how the ancient ancestry components are labelled. It sounds too much like marketing.

Arnfried
06-07-2021, 06:28 PM
The problem i have with these results is how the ancient ancestry components are labelled. It sounds too much like marketing.

Of course it's marketing.
There's no scientific samples assigned with security for Arverns, Redones, or Bituriges for exemple.
This is just extrapolation, may be with modern populations of areas concerned, or may be average as we did with G25 (ex. Haedui = average of Northeastern Gauls and Southern Gauls)?

Cascio
06-07-2021, 07:02 PM
Of course it's marketing.
There's no scientific samples assigned with security for Arverns, Redones, or Bituriges for exemple.
This is just extrapolation, may be with modern populations of areas concerned, or may be average as we did with G25 (ex. Haedui = average of Northeastern Gauls and Southern Gauls)?

It's marketing all right and you can add the Cisalpine Gauls (no official sample yet!) to your list.

Do you consider the 4th run (50/50) at all useful? In your view, is the modern equivalent accurate?

LesPoilus
06-07-2021, 07:37 PM
My 4th Ancient Pangea run is just absurd, ie 100% Hallstatt Celt...The modern one is more accurate but still dubious.

Arnfried
06-07-2021, 08:20 PM
It's marketing all right and you can add the Cisalpine Gauls (no official sample yet!) to your list.

Do you consider the 4th run (50/50) at all useful? In your view, is the modern equivalent accurate?

Eurasia modern's fourth oracle give me Wales 50% and Italia_North 50 %, while Pangea's one give me Orkney 50% and Aragon 50%.
If I take the mid-point of theses, I find France... So this is not in my opinion totally inaccurate.

Garimund
06-07-2021, 09:29 PM
Pangea:

Main Oracle Run

Hallstatt_Celt : 34%
Celtic_Orkney : 24%
Celtic_Breton : 23.5%
Anglo-Saxon : 16%
Numidian : 1.5%

Second Oracle Run

Hallstatt_Celt : 35%
Celtic_Breton : 30%
Anglo-Saxon : 15%
Celtic_Orkney : 15%
Germanic_Friesland : 5%

Third Oracle Run

Hallstatt_Celt : 30%
Anglo-Saxon : 20%
Celtic_Breton : 20%
Celtic_Orkney : 20%
Celtic_Gaul : 10%

Fourth Oracle Run

Germanic_Friesland : 50%
Hallstatt_Celt : 50%

Eurasia:

Main Oracle Run

Anglo-Saxon : 36.5%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 30%
Celtic_Briton : 19.5%
Viking_Sigtuna : 10.5%
Finno-Ugric_Urals : 1.5%
Guanche_Canarias : 1%
Kushitic-Horner : 1%

Second Oracle Run

Anglo-Saxon : 25%
Celtic_Briton : 25%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 20%
Viking_Sigtuna : 15%
Gaul_Redones : 5%
Guanche_Canarias : 5%
Viking_Danelaw_England : 5%

Third Oracle Run

Gaul_Redones : 30%
Viking_Danelaw_England : 20%
Gaul_Aedui : 10%
Germanic_Suebi : 10%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 10%
Viking_Norse_Gudvangen : 10%
Viking_Sigtuna : 10%

Fourth Oracle Run

Anglo-Saxon : 50%
Gaul_Santones : 50%

timberwolf
06-08-2021, 05:41 AM
Pangea Modern

Main Run
England 36,5
Ireland 25.5
Gascony 22
Orkney 13
Scotland 3

@nd run
England 31.25
Gascony 25
Ireland 18.75
Orkney 18.75
Scotland 6.25

3rd run
England 25
Gascony25
Ireland25
Orkney 12.5
Scotland 12.5

4th run
Brittany 50
England 50

which if you change Brittany to Cornwall and include Ulster Scots as part of England, it is very good.

Just confirms what I already know I am Isles with a pull toward Southern French or Northern Spanish populations.

timberwolf
06-08-2021, 05:53 AM
With Pangea Ancient

The fourth Oracle

Celtic Orkney 50
Hallstatt Celtic 50

Apart from a small amount of Anglo Saxon and even smaller amounts of Iberian, the other oracles were solidly Celt.

LesPoilus
06-08-2021, 06:37 AM
Here, the "algorithms" are not at odds but, as most of the time, the reference samples are.

timberwolf
06-08-2021, 06:53 AM
Here, the "algorithms" are not at odds but, as most of the time, the reference samples are.

Yes it is always the reference samples that determines how good any calculators, as samplings improve so will these calculators, it is a evolving science.

Hazmatnik
06-11-2021, 03:21 AM
I decided to make little test and purchased Pangea for both Ancestry kit and my superkit (2147546 snps in it):

4th oracle run:

Ancestry kit

East_Balkan : 50%
Southern_Slav : 50%

Superkit

Baltic : 50%
Italy_South : 50%

Very inconsistent

MR J
07-02-2021, 12:34 PM
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Some of my updated results. Mine seem pretty good. It is my understanding that they're continuously updating and trying to make improvements. I think the reports and the oracles are a fun and interesting way to look at your admixture. Just don't take them too seriously. These tests detect genetic similiarity across lots of poplations so don't expect one of your exact ancestral homelands to appear in your results necessarily. For instance, I'm not going to throw a fit because one of the reports gave me Wales instead of Scotland. It's still valid in a genetic sense.

Mariusz95
07-02-2021, 12:46 PM
Does someone know how to understand Gaul Arverni and Aquitaine? Eurasia gives me 18% this samples in main oracle. Maybe some celtic ?

MR J
07-02-2021, 01:01 PM
Does someone know how to understand Gaul Arverni and Aquitaine? Eurasia gives me 18% this samples in main oracle. Maybe some celtic ?

Gauls were Celtic, yes. Aquitaine would have some of this admixture but lean a bit more southern towards Iberia.

Mariusz95
07-02-2021, 01:13 PM
Gauls were Celtic, yes. Aquitaine would have some of this admixture but lean a bit more southern towards Iberia.

Iberia is totally incorrect in my case. Curious what I will get in the next updates.

JFWinstone
07-02-2021, 04:32 PM
I've only done these for my mum so far due to lack of funds but these are hers.

Eurasia Ancient Main Oracle:

Celtic Briton - 37.5%
Himalayan - 30%
African Bantu - 10.5%
African Bornu Empire - 6.5%
Germanic Suebi - 3.5%
Andhra Kingdom - 2.5%
Germanic Rugii - 2.5%
Gaul Averni - 2%
Viking Sweden Malmo - 2%
Baltic Suwalki - 1.5%
Oceania Melanesian - 1%

Eurasia Modern Origins - Main Oracle:

Wales: 43%
Han China: 11%
Guinea Gulf: 10%
Indochina: 7.5%
South Asia Kanjar: 7%
Eastern Bantu: 6.5%
Japanese: 5%
English Cumbria: 3%
Norway: 2.5%
Melanesian: 1.5%
Uttar Pradesh: 1.5%
Under 0.5%
Finland
Mongolia
Nilotic Ethiopia

Pangea Ancient: Main Oracle:

Viking Norse: 44%
Ancient Indochina: 22%
Bantu Kenya: 8.5%
Africa Nok Culture: 7.5%
Turkic: 6.5%
Chamar India: 4%
Vedic India: 2.5%
Iberian Montelavar: 2%
Melanesian: 1%
Mycenaean: 1%
Under 0.5%
Central African
Terramare

Pangea Modern: Main Oracle

Norway: 46%
Bantu Tanzania: 10.5%
Malaysia: 9%
Indochinese: 8%
Tibeto-Burman Burmese: 7%
Guinean Gulf: 6.5%
Bengal: 5%
Sardinia: 2.5%
Ural Ugrofinnic: 2%
Punjab: 1.5%
Melanesia: 1%
Uttar Pradesh: 1%

Nqp15hhu
07-02-2021, 04:54 PM
Bit of a waste of money, but whatever.

Foundations of the Modern World BC:

Main Oracle Run

Populations
Celtic_Briton : 71%
Germanic_Suebi : 11%
Viking_Sigtuna : 8.5%
Andhra_Kingdom : 2.5%
Tatar_Russia : 2.5%
Gaul_Arverni : 1.5%
Germanic_Rugii : 1.5%
Anglo-Saxon : 1%

Second Oracle Run

Celtic_Briton : 60%
Anglo-Saxon : 10%
Gaul_Arverni : 10%
Germanic_Rugii : 5%
Germanic_Suebi : 5%
Tatar_Russia : 5%
Viking_Danish : 5%


Third Oracle Run

Celtic_Briton : 60%
Anglo-Saxon : 10%
Gaul_Arverni : 10%
Tatar_Russia : 10%
Viking_Danish : 10%


Fourth Oracle Run

Celtic_Briton : 50%
Germanic_Suebi : 50%


Eurasia - Modern Origins

Main Oracle Run

Wales : 45.5%
Ireland : 24.5%
Scotland : 23%
Kalash : 4%
Norway : 3%


Second Oracle Run

Wales : 43.75%
Ireland : 37.5%
Kalash : 6.25%
Norway : 6.25%
Scotland : 6.25%


Third Oracle Run

Wales : 37.5%
Ireland : 25%
Scotland : 25%
Thuringia : 12.5%


Fourth Oracle Run

Scotland : 50%
Wales : 50%

firemonkey
07-03-2021, 12:39 PM
Foundations of modern world


Anglo-Saxon : 29%
Viking_Sigtuna : 22.5%
Celtic_Briton : 11.5%
Gaul_Redones : 11.5%
Viking_Danelaw_England : 9%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 8.5%
Gaul_Santones : 7%
Kushitic-Horner : 1%


Anglo-Saxon : 20%
Gaul_Redones : 20%
Viking_Sigtuna : 15%
Viking_Danelaw_England : 10%
Viking_Norse_Gudvangen : 10%
Celtic_Briton : 5%
Celtic_Scot-Pict : 5%
Gaul_Santones : 5%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 5%
Viking_Norse_Faroes : 5%

Anglo-Saxon : 30%
Celtic_Briton : 20%
Gaul_Belgae : 10%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 10%
Viking_Danelaw_England : 10%
Viking_Norse_Gudvangen : 10%
Viking_Sigtuna : 10%

Celtic_Briton : 50%
Viking_Norse_Gudvangen : 50%

Eurasia modern

Cornwall : 37%
Norway : 29.5%
Ireland : 17.5%
Scotland : 15%
Somalia-Eritrea : 1%

Cornwall : 31.25%
Ireland : 25%
Norway : 25%
English_Yorkshire : 6.25%
Orkney : 6.25%
Scotland : 6.25%

Cornwall : 37.5%
Norway : 25%
Ireland : 12.5%
Orkney : 12.5%
Scotland : 12.5%

Ireland : 50%
Orkney : 50%

Jessie
07-03-2021, 01:24 PM
Foundations of the modern world

First Run
Viking_Sigtuna : 36%
Gaul_Redones : 26.5%
Germanic_Suebi : 18.5%
Anglo-Saxon : 8.5%
Celtic_Briton : 8.5%
Tatar_Russia : 1.5%

Second Run
Gaul_Redones : 25%
Viking_Sigtuna : 25%
Germanic_Suebi : 20%
Anglo-Saxon : 15%
Celtic_Briton : 5%
Celtic_Scot-Pict : 5%
Viking_Sweden_Malmo : 5%

Third Run
Anglo-Saxon : 20%
Gaul_Redones : 20%
Germanic_Suebi : 20%
Viking_Sigtuna : 20%
Celtic_Briton : 10%
Viking_Norse_Stavanger : 10%

Fourth Run
Gaul_Redones : 50%
Viking_Sweden_Malmo : 50%

Modern
First Run
Norway : 50.5%
Scotland : 24%
Ireland : 23%
Russia_Alania : 2%

Second Run
Scotland : 43.75%
Ireland : 31.25%
Norway : 18.75%
Finland : 6.25%

Third Run
Norway : 50%
Scotland : 50%

Fourth Run
Ireland : 50%
Norway : 50%

Pangea
Homogenesis and Civilisations
3000 BC-1000 AD

First Run
Anglo-Saxon : 50.5%
Viking_Dane : 29%
Hallstatt_Celt : 15.5%
North_Caucasus : 2.5%
Celtic_Breton : 2%

Second Run
Anglo-Saxon : 40%
Viking_Dane : 30%
Celtic_Breton : 15%
Germanic_Friesland : 10%
Hallstatt_Celt : 5%

Third Run
Anglo-Saxon : 40%
Germanic_Friesland : 20%
Viking_Dane : 20%
Celtic_Breton : 10%
Hallstatt_Celt : 10%

Fourth Run
Celtic_Orkney : 50%
Viking_Dane : 50%

Modern Origins
First Run
Ireland : 38.5%
England : 36.5%
North_Sea : 21%
Alania : 2%
Sweden : 2%

Second Run
Ireland : 43.75%
England : 25%
Schleswig-Holstein : 12.5%
Sweden : 12.5%
Orkney : 6.25%

Third Run
Ireland : 50%
North_Sea : 25%
England : 12.5%
Schleswig-Holstein : 12.5%

Fourth Run
England : 100%

Not really very accurate for an Irish person. On all these type oracles my dna comes out Insular Celtic with some Scandinavian and a small amount of Caucasus.

boilermeschew827
07-03-2021, 01:54 PM
Pangea ancient:

main
Baltic 18.5%
Viking Geats 18.5%
Celtic Briton 17.5%
Celtic Orkney 15.5%
Anglo Saxon 13%
Early Slav 7.5%
Viking Swede 3%
Celtic England 2%
Viking Norse 1.5%
Ancient Indochina 1%
Chamar India 1%

second run
Celtic Briton 30%
Baltic 20%
Viking Dane 15%
Anglo Saxon 10%
Celtic Orkney 5%
Viking Swede 3%
Viking Norse 5%

third run
Celtic Orkney 30%
Baltic 20%
Celtic Breton 10%
Magyar 10%
Viking Dane 10%
Viking Geats 10%
Viking Swede 10%

fourth run
Early Slav 50%
Germanic Friesland 50%

modern
main

England 27%
Baltic 26%
Ireland 21.5%
Finland 7%
Sweden 6.5%
Gascony 6%
Scotland 4%
Bengal 1%

second

England 31.25%
Baltic 18.75%
Ireland 18.75%
Finland 12.5%
Gascony 6.25%
Sorb 6.25%
Sweden 6.25%

third run
Baltic 25%
North Sea 25%
Finland 12.5%
Gascony 12.5%
Ireland 12.5%
Orkney 12.5%

fourth run
Ireland 50%
Sorb 50%

Pangea is weird for me. Lot's England/Ireland/Orkney. The third run is probably makes the most sense IMO. The ancients miss any Gaul etc...

I'll list the other reports in a separate post, too many for one...

boilermeschew827
07-03-2021, 02:07 PM
Eurasia

ancients

main

Germanic Rugii 16.5%
Viking Sweden Uppsala 13.5%
Viking Danelaw England 10%
Gaul_Arverni 9%
Viking Norse Faroes 9%
Viking Sigtuna 9%
Baltic Suwalki 7.5%
Gaul Santones 6%
Baltic Slavic 5%
Viking Pomeranian 4.5%
Finno-Ugric Urals 3.5%
Nordic Finnish Turku 3%
Germanic Jutes Frisian 1%
Vascones Iberia Atlantic 1%

Second run

Baltic Suwalki 15%
Viking Danelaw England 15%
Viking Sweden Uppsala 15%
Gaul_Arverni 10%
Gaul Redones 10%
Gaul Aedui 5%
Germanic Baiuvari Thuringi 5%
Germanic Jutes Frisian 5%
Germanic Rugii 5%
Germanic Suebi 5%
Nordic Finnish Turku 5%
Viking Pomeranian 5%

third run

Germanic Gaul Frankish 20%
Viking Danelaw England 20%
Viking Uppsala 20%
Baltic Suwalki 10%
Gaul Arverni 10%
Germanic Rugii 10%
Viking Pomeranian 10%

fourth
Germanic Baiuvari Thuringi 50%
Viking Uppsala 50%

Modern

Baltic 21.5%
Jutland 21.5%
Wales 16.5%
England Yorkshire 12.5%
Finland 11%
English Cumbria 10.5%
Aquitaine 4.5%

second run

English Cumbria 25%
Wales 18.75%
Baltic 12.5%
Dutch 12.5%
Russia Smolensk 12.5%
English Yorkshire 6.25%
Jutland 6.25%
Russian Arkhangelsk 6.25%


Third run

English Cumbria 25%
Jutland 25%
Austria 12.5%
Baltic 12.5%
Russian Arkhangelsk 12.5%
Wales 12.5%

fourth run

Cornwall 50%
Finland 50%

Eurasia is better IMO for myself. The ancients make sense as well.

Nqp15hhu
07-03-2021, 02:44 PM
In some ways, it's much like my K36 report: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1peXavf3Jj0zXS_1ymGVQzsMNfEqkSwH6/view

firemonkey
07-03-2021, 02:46 PM
Pangea

Ancient

Anglo-Saxon : 49%
Hallstatt_Celt : 33%
Viking_Norse : 15%
Celtic_Breton : 2%


Anglo-Saxon : 50%
Hallstatt_Celt : 30%
Viking_Norse : 15%
Celtic_Breton : 5%


Anglo-Saxon : 50%
Hallstatt_Celt : 30%
Viking_Dane : 20%

Anglo-Saxon : 50%
Hallstatt_Celt : 50%


Modern


Ireland : 48.5%
England : 39%
Gascony : 6%
Norway : 6%


England : 37.5%
Ireland : 25%
Norway : 18.75%
Gascony : 12.5%
.North_Sea : 6.25%


England : 62.5%
Ireland : 25%
Brittany : 12.5%

Ireland : 100%

Finn
07-03-2021, 04:09 PM
In some ways, it's much like my K36 report: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1peXavf3Jj0zXS_1ymGVQzsMNfEqkSwH6/view

May be no coincidence, cooperation with Lukasz?

vettor
07-03-2021, 04:13 PM
is K36 any good in yourDNAportal ?


Eurogenes K36

Closest population distances
Population

Distance
BA_Hungary_BR2

1.631
BA_Hungary_RISE373

1.871
i3757_Celtiberian_IA

1.953
DA112_Hallstatt-Bylany_800BC

2.182
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF22

2.184
I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent

2.213
IA_Britain_York_3DRIF16

2.277
BA_Hungary_RISE483

2.301


........................................


Admix 2 Oracle
Population

Value
BA_I9006_Mycenean

50
LNBA_Urnfield_Germany_I0099

50

........................................


Admix 4 Oracle
Population

Value
BA_Hungary_RISE373

50
BA_I9006_Mycenean

25
DA112_Hallstatt-Bylany_800BC

25

Finn
07-03-2021, 04:32 PM
Yes I'm an addict.....

I must say with all the haircutting difference needly done

IA/Early middle ages

I
Viking_Danish : 31.5%
Viking_Sigtuna : 23.5%
Gaul_Belgae : 18%
Germanic_Rugii : 13%
Germanic_Jutes-Frisian : 5.5%
Germanic_Baiuvari-Thuringi : 4.5%
Baltic_Suwalki : 1.5%
Gothic_Barbarian : 1.5%

II
Viking_Danish : 35%
Viking_Sigtuna : 25%
Germanic_Rugii : 15%
Germanic_Jutes-Frisian : 10%
Gaul_Allobroges : 5%
Gaul_Santones : 5%
Gothic_Barbarian : 5%

III
Viking_Danish : 30%
Gaul_Belgae : 20%
Viking_Sigtuna : 20%
Germanic_Baiuvari-Thuringi : 10%
Viking_Norse_Faroes : 10%
Viking_Sweden_Uppsala : 10%

IV.
Germanic_Jutes-Frisian : 50%
Germanic_Rugii : 50%

Modern
I
Jutland : 80%
English_Cumbria : 10.5%
English_Yorkshire : 9%

II
Jutland : 50%
English_Yorkshire : 18.75%
English_Cumbria : 12.5%
Finland : 6.25%
Ireland : 6.25%
Scotland : 6.25%

III
English_Cumbria : 25%
Ireland : 25%
Norway : 25%
English_Yorkshire : 12.5%
Finland : 12.5%

IV
Friesland : 50%
Jutland : 50%

Finn
07-03-2021, 05:08 PM
Pangea

Ancient

I
Viking_Dane : 35%
Anglo-Saxon : 28%
Viking_Norse : 27%
Hallstatt_Celt : 8.5%
Celtic_Orkney : 1%

II
Viking_Dane : 50%
Anglo-Saxon : 20%
Viking_Norse : 20%
Celtic_Orkney : 5%
Hallstatt_Celt : 5%

III
Viking_Norse : 50%
Anglo-Saxon : 20%
Celtic_Breton : 10%
Celtic_Orkney : 10%
Viking_Dane : 10%

IV
Anglo-Saxon : 50%
Viking_Dane : 50%

Modern

I
North_Sea : 21%
Sweden : 20%
Orkney : 16%
England : 15%
Norway : 15%
Ireland : 13%

II
North_Sea : 25%
Orkney : 25%
Sweden : 25%
Ireland : 18.75%
Norway : 6.25%

III
Sweden : 37.5%
Orkney : 25%
England : 12.5%
Ireland : 12.5%
Norway : 12.5%

IV
England : 50%
Norway : 50%

Same kind of conclusion as Jessie it gives very generalized a good impression, in my case between the Isles and Scandinavia....

Garimund
07-03-2021, 05:37 PM
Updated:

Eurasia

I.
Anglo-Saxon : 36.5%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 30%
Celtic_Briton : 19.5%
Viking_Sigtuna : 10.5%
Finno-Ugric_Urals : 1.5%
Guanche_Canarias : 1%
Kushitic-Horner : 1%

II.
Anglo-Saxon : 30%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 25%
Celtic_Briton : 10%
Gaul_Redones : 10%
Viking_Norse_Gudvangen : 10%
Gaul_Santones : 5%
Germanic_Suebi : 5%
Viking_Sweden_Uppsala : 5%

III.
Celtic_Briton : 30%
Anglo-Saxon : 20%
Gaul_Aedui : 10%
Gaul_Redones : 10%
Roman_Iberia : 10%
Viking_Danelaw_England : 10%
Viking_Norse_Gudvangen : 10%

IV.
Anglo-Saxon : 50%
Gaul_Santones : 50%

Moderns:

I.
Cornwall : 94%
Aquitaine : 2%
Red-Sea_Arabia : 1.5%
Somalia-Eritrea : 1.5%

II.
Cornwall : 25%
Ireland : 18.75%
Scotland : 18.75%
Celtic-Iberian : 12.5%
Norway : 12.5%
Aquitaine : 6.25%
Dutch : 6.25%

III.
Dutch : 25%
English_Yorkshire : 25%
Aquitaine : 12.5%
Cornwall : 12.5%
Ireland : 12.5%
Wales : 12.5%

IV.
English_Yorkshire : 50%
Wales : 50%

Pangea:

I.
Hallstatt_Celt : 36.5%
Anglo-Saxon : 32%
Celtic_Breton : 20.5%
Celtic_Orkney : 7.5%
Numidian : 1.5%
North_Caucasus : 1%

II.
Anglo-Saxon : 35%
Celtic_Breton : 35%
Hallstatt_Celt : 20%
Celtic_Orkney : 5%
Iberian_Montelavar : 5%

III.
Anglo-Saxon : 30%
Hallstatt_Celt : 30%
Celtic_Breton : 20%
Celtic_Gaul : 10%
Celtic_Orkney : 10%

IV.
Germanic_Friesland : 50%
Hallstatt_Celt : 50%

Moderns:

I.
England : 36.5%
Ireland : 35.5%
Gascony : 22.5%
Baltic : 2.5%
Alania : 1.5%
Somalia-Eritrea : 1%

II.
Ireland : 37.5%
Gascony : 25%
England : 18.75%
Orkney : 12.5%
Baltic : 6.25%

III.
England : 25%
Gascony : 25%
Ireland : 25%
Schleswig-Holstein : 25%

IV.
Gascony : 50%
Sweden : 50%

Aroon1916
07-03-2021, 09:29 PM
I don't mind Your DNA Portal. Grain of salt time as with all these things.
By the final oracle, I am usually a split between Scandinavia and Germany.
Updated results

I will post Eurasia first.

Eurasia (Ancient)

Main Oracle:
Viking_Sigtuna : 31%
Germanic_Suebi : 18%
Celtic_Briton : 12.5%
Gaul_Arverni : 10%
Viking_Danish : 4.5
Gaul_Belgae : 4%
Gaul_Redones : 3%
Slavic_Czechia : 2.5%
Baltic_Suwalki : 1.5%
Balto-Slavic : 1.5%
Gaul_Santones : 1.5%
Viking_Sweden_Malmo : 1.5%
Viking_Sweden_Uppsala : 1.5%
Alanic_Russia : 1%
Anglo-Saxon : 1%
Gaul_Allobroges : 1%
Tatar_Russia : 1%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 1%
Populations under 0.5% : 2.0 %

Second Oracle:
Viking_Sigtuna : 30%
Germanic_Suebi : 15%
Anglo-Saxon : 5%
Balto-Slavic : 5%
Celtic_Briton : 5%
Celtic_Scot-Pict : 5%
Gaul_Arverni : 5%
Gaul_Santones : 5%
Germanic_Baiuvari-Thuringi : 5%
Tatar_Russia : 5%
Vascones_Iberia_Atlantic : 5%
Viking_Danish : 5%
Viking_Norse_Faroes : 5%

Third Oracle:
Viking_Sigtuna : 30%
Germanic_Suebi : 20%
Anglo-Saxon : 10%
Celtic_Briton : 10%
Gaul_Arverni : 10%
Gaul_Ligurian_Cisalpina : 10%
Viking_Sweden_Uppsala : 10%

Fourth Oracle:
Germanic_Baiuvari-Thuringi : 50%
Viking_Norse_Faroes : 50%

Modern
Main Oracle:
Wales : 29%
Scotland : 15.5%
Jutland : 14.5%
Ireland : 10.5%
Norway : 10%
Russian_Smolensk : 9%
Cornwall : 2%
Russia_Alania : 2%
Russian_Arkhangelsk : 2%
Aquitaine : 1.5%
Austria : 1.5%
Baltic : 1.5%
Populations under 0.5% : 1.0 %

Second Oracle:
Ireland : 25%
Wales : 25%
Scotland : 18.75%
Austria : 6.25%
Baltic : 6.25%
Norway : 6.25%
Russia_Erzya : 6.25%
Thuringia : 6.25%

Third Oracle:
Ireland : 25%
Wales : 25%
Austria : 12.5%
Norway : 12.5%
Russian_Moscow : 12.5%
Scotland : 12.5%

Fourth Oracle:
Norway : 50%
Thuringia : 50%

Aroon1916
07-03-2021, 09:32 PM
Pangea (Ancient)

Main Oracle:
Viking_Norse : 32%
Viking_Geats : 21.5%
Germanic_Friesland : 16%
Celtic_Breton : 10.5%
Celtic_England : 5.5%
Anglo-Saxon : 4.5%
Celtic_Orkney : 2.5%
Iberian_Montelavar : 2.5%
North_Caucasus : 2.5%
Early_Slav : 1.5%
Sarmatian : 1%

Second Oracle:
Germanic_Friesland : 30%
Viking_Dane : 25%
Viking_Norse : 20%
Celtic_Breton : 5%
Celtic_England : 5%
Celtic_Gaul : 5%
Hallstatt_Celt : 5%
Sarmatian : 5%

Third Oracle:
Germanic_Friesland : 20%
Viking_Dane : 20%
Viking_Norse : 20%
Anglo-Saxon : 10%
Celtic_England : 10%
Hallstatt_Celt : 10%
Sarmatian : 10%

Fourth Oracle:
Germanic_Bavaria : 50%
Viking_Norse : 50%

Modern
Main Oracle:
Sweden : 44.5%
Orkney : 32%
Brandenburg : 9.5%
Alania : 4%
Gascony : 4%
Norway : 3.5%
Scotland : 2.5%

Second Oracle:
Orkney : 56.25%
Brandenburg : 18.75%
North_Sea : 6.25%
Norway : 6.25%
Sweden : 6.25%
Tatar : 6.25%

Third Oracle:
Orkney : 50%
Brandenburg : 25%
Sweden : 25%

Fourth Oracle:
North_Sea : 50%
Schleswig-Holstein : 50%

Cascio
07-04-2021, 07:17 AM
In general, it looks as if only the Fourth Oracle (50/50) Modern makes ANY sense. :biggrin1: