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madaleninha
06-11-2021, 11:05 PM
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From the Swedish artist Oscar Nilsson

vasil
06-11-2021, 11:50 PM
45125
45126

From the Swedish artist Oscar Nilsson

Looks familiar probably like an actress i saw in something but cant quite put my finger on it other than that looks Scandinavian.

Aleph
06-12-2021, 12:13 AM
Does this have published measurements that you know about?

madaleninha
06-12-2021, 01:01 AM
Does this have published measurements that you know about?

No. These skulls were recently discovered, and there is nothing about them in the old books. I had already found data on La Brana's skulls, but about those from Motala, I didn't find anything. You can try asking artist Oscar Nilsson on Facebook.

JoeyP37
06-12-2021, 12:52 PM
Is she wearing...a skunk pelt? Still, looks very different from the chewing gum girl they found in Denmark, almost like a modern Scandinavian. Of course, this is a hunter-gatherer, while chewing gum girl was a Neolithic farmer.

Tomenable
06-12-2021, 02:13 PM
Strong browridges.

Strider99
06-12-2021, 04:19 PM
Is she wearing...a skunk pelt? Still, looks very different from the chewing gum girl they found in Denmark, almost like a modern Scandinavian. Of course, this is a hunter-gatherer, while chewing gum girl was a Neolithic farmer.

The Syltholm girl was a hunter-gatherer as well (in the genetic sense but also lifestyle-wise). She would probably have belonged to an Ertebölle culture group. Oscar Nilsson who makes a lot of these reconstructions has reconstructed this Ertebölle girl, the 7000 year old Tybrind girl found in Denmark: 45136

As far as I know the only reconstruction of a Scandinavian Neolithic farmer that has been done was also made by Oscar Nilsson. It was of "Hallonflickan" (raspberry girl, because her last meal before she died was a large quantity of raspberries). She was a Funnelbeaker woman from Falbygden in Västergötland, Western Sweden. Here's the reconstruction: 45135
The link below unfortunately is not available in English but it has some interesting pictures, apparently she has been speculated to have been a human sacrifice.
https://www.falkoping.se/falbygdens-museum/upptack-falbygden/historien-om-hallonflickan
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallonflickan

While I think Nilsson's reconstructions are good, I also get the impression that parts of it is more art than science. For example, his reconstruction of one of the oldest human remains found in Sweden (Bredgård man from 7800 BC) looks hilariously similar to his reconstruction of 13th century nobleman Birger Jarl. However, the skulls of both individuals are well-preserved and look extremely different, so it's pretty weird that the reconstructions come out looking so similar. I think that pigmentation is really where their similarities would end at (Bredgård man had alleles for fair hair and blue eyes much like the Jarl), so maybe the detailed facial features of some of these reconstructions should be taken with a grain of salt.
Images of Bredgård man's remains in link below for reference.
https://www.ulricehamn.se/uppleva/bibliotek/ulricehamnsbygdens-forskarrum/forntiden/
https://www.ulricehamn.se/innehall/2016/11/Bredg%C3%A5rdsmannen.pdf

Edit: Nilsson's Corded Ware reconstruction. From "Bergsgraven" in Östergötland: 45137
http://www.linkopingshistoria.se/stenalder/bondestenalder/

Aleph
07-04-2021, 09:54 PM
No. These skulls were recently discovered, and there is nothing about them in the old books. I had already found data on La Brana's skulls, but about those from Motala, I didn't find anything. You can try asking artist Oscar Nilsson on Facebook.

I don't have a facebook account.

Cascio
07-18-2021, 02:03 PM
Looks familiar probably like an actress i saw in something but cant quite put my finger on it other than that looks Scandinavian.

:behindsofa:

vasil
07-18-2021, 03:25 PM
:behindsofa:

Figured it out she looks like Rose Leslie to me at least.