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Kae Lesi
08-03-2021, 12:56 PM
Hi

I'm Kae Lesi

I'm from Maluku / Moluccan

Both of my parents from Moluccan...

My Y-DNA is N-M231... I'm very confused... is there someone who can explain it ?

Kae Lesi
08-03-2021, 01:02 PM
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Pylsteen
08-03-2021, 01:17 PM
Haplogroup N is widely distributed in northern Asia; in your case, I would think a link with Chinese merchants in the most probable; further SNP testing would be needed to see which subclade you belong to.

Kae Lesi
08-03-2021, 02:14 PM
Haplogroup N is widely distributed in northern Asia; in your case, I would think a link with Chinese merchants in the most probable; further SNP testing would be needed to see which subclade you belong to.

yes, i'm waiting for further results from FTDNA...

I once read an article: According to anthropologist A.H. Keane, Maluku Island has always been inhabited by ethnic groups, namely the Alifuros, a mixed nation of Caucasus-Mongoloid people and Papuans. Is it related to Haplogroup N which is mostly found in North and Central Asia?

Tsakhur
08-14-2021, 08:20 PM
Hi

I'm Kae Lesi

I'm from Maluku / Moluccan

Both of my parents from Moluccan...

My Y-DNA is N-M231... I'm very confused... is there someone who can explain it ?

There are two other Moluccan users here btw.

Tsakhur
08-14-2021, 08:21 PM
Hi

I'm Kae Lesi

I'm from Maluku / Moluccan

Both of my parents from Moluccan...

My Y-DNA is N-M231... I'm very confused... is there someone who can explain it ?

Also can you try out this calculator?: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?17794-New-Simulated-AASI-G25-Coordinates-(-Updates)/page24



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witness
08-14-2021, 09:06 PM
Hi I am half Moluccan from Ambonese mother and Romanian Ashkenazi Jewish father.My maternal grandparents were from Hulaliu and Ema.

witness
08-14-2021, 09:08 PM
yes, i'm waiting for further results from FTDNA...

I once read an article: According to anthropologist A.H. Keane, Maluku Island has always been inhabited by ethnic groups, namely the Alifuros, a mixed nation of Caucasus-Mongoloid people and Papuans. Is it related to Haplogroup N which is mostly found in North and Central Asia?

The Indigineous Moluccans are a mix of Austronesians and Papuans.Our Paternal Haplogroups are majority Melanesian and South Eurasian (Australoid) and our Maternal Haplogroups are more Austronesian and East Eurasian (Mongoloid).The first people in Maluku were the common ancestors of Papuans and Aboriginals.

witness
08-14-2021, 09:14 PM
Hi

I'm Kae Lesi

I'm from Maluku / Moluccan

Both of my parents from Moluccan...

My Y-DNA is N-M231... I'm very confused... is there someone who can explain it ?

What islands and villages are your parents descended from?

Kae Lesi
08-17-2021, 09:50 AM
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Kae Lesi
08-17-2021, 09:51 AM
The Indigineous Moluccans are a mix of Austronesians and Papuans.Our Paternal Haplogroups are majority Melanesian and South Eurasian (Australoid) and our Maternal Haplogroups are more Austronesian and East Eurasian (Mongoloid).The first people in Maluku were the common ancestors of Papuans and Aboriginals.

indeed. i think so...

Kae Lesi
08-17-2021, 09:51 AM
What islands and villages are your parents descended from?

Ceiram Island (Seram)