View Full Version : Y-DNA Haplogroups of male Mayflower passengers (who have living descendants)

Wing Genealogist
11-03-2021, 06:17 PM
At the present time, we are sufficiently aware of the Y-DNA haplogroup of 16 Mayflower families:

Billington: R1b-U106>>Z381>>L48>>Z8>>Z12>Z8175>CTS10742>BY14508>BY145737
Bradford: I1-M253>DF29>Z63>BY151>BY351>BY3407>CTS2910>Y10994>Y21374>Y21371>Y21370>Y21372
Brewster: I1-M253>Z17954>FGC47136>S2304>Z17942>Z17928>Z17926>Z17924>A9783>A19407>FT1754
Cooke: I2a2a I-M223>CTS616>FGC15071>BY1003>L1229>Z2069>Z2068>Z2054>Y4746>FGC15109>FGC15105>BY18>Y4761>Y4760>FGC57449>FGC57463>FGC57458>FGC57464
Doty: R1b-L21>DF13>ZZ10_1>Z16423Z255>L159(.2)>Z16429>Z16433>A1248>A1245>A1254>FT78842
Eaton: R1b-U106>>U198>S10591>Z37884
Fuller: R1b-U106>>S12025>FGC12021>S17339>FGC53777>S25007>FGC31905>FGC53757>BZ3170>Y85916
Hopkins: R1b-U106>>Z381>>L48>Z9>Z331>>FGC12346>FGC49706>A10233>BY3322>A10236>FGC49708>FGC52137>FGC52139>FGC52155>FGC52156>FGC71620>FGC71615
Howland: R1b-U106>>Z381>>L48>Z9>>Z8>Z1>Z344>Z6>A96>S10415>A9701>A9703
Rogers: R1b-L21>DF13>ZZ10_1>Z253>FGC3268>ZZ6_1>BY43439>BY4303>FGC59516>FGC59535>FGC59523>FT260099
Samson: I2a2a I-M223>P222>CTS616>CTS10057>Z161>FGC3575>S2452>L801>Z165>CTS1977>Y4946>Y8935>Y12052>FTB708>FTB4532
Soule: R1b-DF29>Z58>Z59>>Z61>Z60>Z140>Z141>Z2535>YSC0000261>L338>S12289>A20032
Standish: I-M170>P215>CTS2257>L460>P214>S2525>L38>S2606>FGC29656>BY1183>Y18919>S4556>BY14000>FT276288>FT276480
White: R1b L21>DF13>Z39589>DF49>>M222
Winslow: I1-M253>DF29>Z58>Z59>CTS8647>Z61>S9939>S23468>S20652>S11023>BY34545>BY34542>BY71464

What strikes me is how little R1b-L21 is found in this group. L21 is the dominant Y-DNA haplogroup in the British Isles, with approximately 37% of males today falling into this haplogroup. This is roughly twice as high as the percentage found in the Mayflower passengers (18.75%). In addition, five families fall under R1b-U106 and three fall under I-M253.

Anyone else care to comment?

11-03-2021, 06:20 PM
Also Warren (see my sig), apparently another non-L21.

Edit: If you look at all my colonial era known YDNA ancestors below, only one was L21.
Was Britain shedding its more Germanic/Continental members at a faster rate?

Wing Genealogist
11-03-2021, 06:22 PM
We have DNA Y-STR results for descendants of two additional passengers (Alden & Warren) but we currently can only predict where Alden falls under P312 and likely under the STR based clade: Z38841 (parent clade of both U152 & DF27). For Warren descendants we have conflicting calls falling under either E-V13 or R1b-M269 (so one or both individuals have a problem in their line).

Wing Genealogist
11-03-2021, 06:36 PM
It might be an interesting study to explore how closely/distantly connected the Pilgrims/Separatists of New Plimouth Colony are from the Puritan Massachusetts Bay Colony (genetics wise). My hunch is the early Bay Colony settlers (who were by and large from East Anglia) may have a higher percentage of L21 and a correspondingly lower percentage of U106 and I-M253.

It is also possible where the Scrooby Congregation may have skewed the Mayflower settlers haplogroups due to their more northerly location in England.

11-03-2021, 06:48 PM
A bunch of mine originated in Sudbury, with at least one family (the Waterburys) probably coming earlier from the continent and "Anglicising" their surname from [von] Wasserburg:

Sudbury was one of the first towns in which Edward III settled the Flemings,[3] allowing the weaving and silk industries to prosper for centuries during the Late Middle Ages. As the main town in the area, Sudbury prospered too, and many great houses and churches were built, giving the town a major historical legacy. The Woolsack in the House of Lords was originally stuffed with wool from the Sudbury area, a sign of both the importance of the wool industry and of the wealth of the donors.

One citizen of Sudbury, Archbishop Simon Sudbury showed that not even the Tower of London guarantees safety. On 14 June 1381 guards opened the Tower's doors and allowed a party of rebellious peasants to enter. Sudbury, inventor of the poll tax, was dragged to Tower Hill and beheaded.[9] His body was afterwards buried in Canterbury Cathedral, but his skull is kept in St Gregory's Church,[10] one of the three medieval churches in Sudbury. Simon's concerns for his native town are reflected in the founding of St Leonard's Hospital in 1372, a place of respite, towards Long Melford, for lepers.[11] For the College of St Gregory, which he founded in 1375 to support eight priests, he used his father's former house and an adjoining plot.[12]

From the 16th to 18th century the weaving industry was less consistently profitable and Sudbury experienced periods of varying prosperity.[13] By means of the borough court, the mayor and corporation directed the affairs of the town. They built a house of correction (1624) for 'rogues, vagabonds and sturdy beggars' and tried to finance the reconstruction of Ballingdon Bridge, which disappeared during a storm on 4 September 1594. Among theatrical companies that they paid to visit Sudbury were Lord Strange's Men (1592) and the King's Men (1610). Minor infringements, such as not attending church, were punished by fines; for worse offenders there was a stocks or a whipping. During the Civil War a 12-strong band of watchmen was created to prevent the town's enemies, presumed to be Royalists, burning it down.[14]

Sudbury and the surrounding area, like much of East Anglia, was a hotbed of Puritan sentiment during much of the 17th century. Sudbury was among the towns called "notorious wasps' nests of dissent."[15] During the 1630s, many families departed for the Massachusetts Bay Colony as part of the wave of emigration that occurred during the Great Migration.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudbury,_Suffolk