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avvaiyar
01-06-2022, 07:25 PM
This Chinese study comprises genomes of Liao dynasty, Northern wei and Northern Zhou dynasty. Does anybody know when this study will be ever published?

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SG_Jun
01-09-2022, 04:51 PM
This Chinese study comprises genomes of Liao dynasty, Northern wei and Northern Zhou dynasty. Does anybody know when this study will be ever published?

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Well honestly this is a pretty old study. For some context, this photo was taken at a presentation by Fudan University in China which is one of the main research institutions in this field. No idea if they have any intentions on releasing any additional information or even publishing the study. Also, recently there have been some news spreading that Yelu Daoqing's (the great grandson of Yelu Yuzhi, paternal cousin of Liao Dynasty founding emperor Yelu Abaoji) ancient remains have been tested and they have turned out to belong to Haplogroup N1b-F2930 instead which is a different branch from N1a2-M128 as suggested earlier. N1a2-M128 is said to have been from another unmarked family grave of the Yelu Khitans.

Link: https://www.coderstudy.co/zh-Hant/article/14mz7_15m8v.html

Lately however, a branch of N1a2-M128 which is F1998 has been gaining plenty of attention in China for a different reason -- for being the most likely Y-haplogroup of the Ji clan which founded the Western Zhou Dynasty, one of the longest, earliest and most influential dynasties in Chinese history. More about the Zhou Dynasty here: https://www.worldhistory.org/Zhou_Dynasty/#:~:text=The%20Zhou%20Dynasty%20made%20significant %20cultural%20contributions%20to%20agriculture%2C% 20education,as%20political%20and%20religious%20inn ovations.

Two ancient elite samples of N-F1998 were discovered at Licheng Xiguan Grave site (黎城西关黎国墓地), in line with earlier reports of N-F1998 also being found among aristocratic graves at Xinancheng (西南呈) by Fudan University. Based on current research by 23mofang (largest DNA testing company in China), it seems that N-F1998 also fits the geographic distribution and TMRCA, population boom around the dawn of the Western Zhou Dynasty, therefore it is currently the prime candidate for the Y-DNA haplogroup of the Ji family clan

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354025208_Ancient_Y-DNA_with_reconstructed_phylogeny_provide_insights_ into_the_demographic_history_of_paternal_haplogrou p_N1a2-F1360

https://www.23mofang.com/ancestry/family/6180f908d1dde90007137aaf

How influential was the Ji family clan and the Zhou Dynasty you may ask. Even the legendary Yellow Emperor in Chinese mythology bears the same last name Ji (姬).

avvaiyar
01-10-2022, 08:38 AM
What really happened to N1a and N1b lineages in modern China? It appears both was prominent lineage in prehistoric China since afaik some four published Neolithic Yellow river samples are tested for N1b especially recently published two Pingliantai samples [north China] from Ning et. al. 2021. The Hongshan culture seems rich in N1a but none of the modern populations in NE China and Korea have decent frequency. However, southern minorities like Yi people have good frequency of N1b as well Han Chinese from Guangzhou so this lineage survived in south China.

Also how reliable are the samples which tested to be C2b(C3*) in that Fudan tests?

SG_Jun
01-10-2022, 08:58 AM
What really happened to N1a and N1b lineages in modern China? It appears both was prominent lineage in prehistoric China since afaik some four published Neolithic Yellow river samples are tested for N1b especially recently published two Pingliantai samples [north China] from Ning et. al. 2021. The Hongshan culture seems rich in N1a but none of the modern populations in NE China and Korea have decent frequency. However, southern minorities like Yi people have good frequency of N1b as well Han Chinese from Guangzhou so this lineage survived in south China.

Also how reliable are the samples which tested to be C2b(C3*) in that Fudan tests?

Indeed N1b-F2930 was rather prominent in China during the neolithic and bronze age periods, especially in the West Liao River and lower reaches of the Yellow River where multiple samples of N1b-F2930 were found. Three ancient neolithic samples of N1b1-CTS582 dating back 9600 to 8000 years ago were also found in Shandong province, northern China from Xiaojingshan, Boshan and Bianbian. These three samples also serve as the reference population for coastal Northeast Asian autosomal DNA. Also as you mentioned the sample of N1b2-M1819 from Pingliangtai, Henan province. No one really knows what happened or why their population as a percentage of the overall population decreased so much. Various subclades of Haplogroup O2-M122 including 002611, M117 are now some of the most populous in China, it could be due to climate change or a rapid population boom of other people groups which sidelined these subclades of N. As it seems for now, N1b-F2930 was likely one of the main patrilineal markers for millet farmers in neolithic and bronze age northern China, but even today millet is no longer a staple food crop in the northern China where it has been replaced with wheat from West Asia, and southern China on the other hand had always been populated by rice agriculturalists.

The subclades found at Hongshan were tested to be N1 (xN1a, N1c) by the way, which suggests that it is most likely a subclade of N1b-F2930 (which had not been discovered at the time when tests were carried out on these ancient samples). So no, the Hongshan culture was not rich in N1a. The Upper Xiajiadian culture which succeeded Hongshan and Lower Xiajiadian however has been found to contain some N1a1a3-F4063 at Longtoushan archaeological site, which is a subclade of N1a1-TAT. There was also a shift towards some sort of pastoralism or nomadism by the time of Upper Xiajiadian.

The ethnogenesis of the Yi people (彝族) is an interesting topic. They speak a language of Sino-Tibetan>Tibeto-Burman origin but they do have diverse origins with multiple Y-haplogroups and even a caste system of their own. Most of the Haplogroup N1b-F2930 found among the Yi ethnicity today belongs to the N1b2-CTS4714 subclade which is predominantly spread around western China. It is not unheard of for southwestern ethnic minorities to have interesting Y-haplogroups atypical for their geographical location such as N, even the Hani people (哈尼族) in Yunnan province are also noted for their high frequency of Haplogroup Q.

Han Chinese from Guangzhou do not have any higher frequency of N1b-F2930 compared to Chinese from other parts of the country, I know the study you are referring to from Wikipedia. However that is only one study and it is relatively old with a very small amount of samples being taken. If anything, Guangdong province (of which Guangzhou is the provincial capital) has a lower frequency of N1b-F2930 compared to rest of the country (accounting only for 3.13% of the male population). Based on current data from 23mofang (the largest genetic testing company in China), Qinghai province in northwestern China has the highest frequency of N1b-F2930 at 5.20%, followed by Shanghai at 5.09%, Chongqing at 5.02%, Sichuan at 4.82% and Tibet at 4.62%, however as far as ancient samples go, based on current evidence N1b-F2930's early area of activity was most likely, once again, the region of the West Liao River (especially centered around the region of Chifeng, Inner Mongolia) and the lower reaches of the Yellow River in northern China.

You are right there is not one single ethnic group in the modern world with a substantial amount of N1b-F2930, as a descendant of N1b-F2930 myself, it seems we have all just melded into the surrounding population of East Asia lol.

I think the samples tested to be C2b(C3*) by Fudan are quite reliable.

Ebizur
01-10-2022, 10:24 AM
What really happened to N1a and N1b lineages in modern China? It appears both was prominent lineage in prehistoric China since afaik some four published Neolithic Yellow river samples are tested for N1b especially recently published two Pingliantai samples [north China] from Ning et. al. 2021. The Hongshan culture seems rich in N1a but none of the modern populations in NE China and Korea have decent frequency. However, southern minorities like Yi people have good frequency of N1b as well Han Chinese from Guangzhou so this lineage survived in south China.An incredible diversity of N1a and N1b lineages may be found even among the present-day Chinese. In terms of numbers, the most important are N1b2-M1819 (TMRCA 6870 years, approximately 33.71% of all Y-DNA haplogroup N in China), N1b1-CTS582 (TMRCA 12490 years, approximately 21.06% of all haplogroup N in China), N1a2a-F1101 (TMRCA 8200 years, approximately 17.59% of all haplogroup N in China), N1a1a3-F4063 (TMRCA 7110 years, approximately 12.41% of all haplogroup N in China), and N-Y149447 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-Y149447/) (TMRCA 13870 years, approximately 8.35% of all haplogroup N in China; N-Y149447 is a sister clade of N1a1-Tat). Most of these subclades of N are not found anywhere outside China except where they appear to be ascribable to (proto)historic gene flow from China rather than the reverse.

It seems pretty clear that this is a case of differential reproductive success within (the present-day boundaries of) China itself. Actually, the N-M128 clade, which some people have hypothesized may be linked to the royal Jī clan (姬氏) of Zhou, currently accounts for the Y-DNA of about 0.89% of Chinese males, so there may be more than six million males who are direct patrilineal descendants of the Jī clan in China alone (not including descendants of this clan in foreign countries, such as Korea, Vietnam, and Japan). When you look at the situation in terms of absolute numbers, this clan does not seem to have fared too poorly. They only seem to have faded into obscurity if you compare them to the staggering number of descendants of certain subclades of O2-M122 and C2b1-F2613 that appear to have multiplied exponentially during the Neolithic or even some other subclades that are less well known, such as O1b1a2a1-F3323 (TMRCA 3680 years according to 23mofang, TMRCA 3800 [95% CI 4200 <-> 3400] ybp according to YFull; accounts for the Y-DNA of approximately 2.01% of present-day Chinese males according to 23mofang).

On the other hand, currently available ancient DNA data from China do suggest that various haplogroups may have been geographically segregated to a greater degree in the past than they are at present. It is difficult to discern which haplogroup(s) should be associated with which ethnolinguistic group(s), or even how many ethnolinguistic groups might have existed at any particular time in any particular region of China. One ancient ethnolinguistic group may have completely assimilated into mainstream Chinese culture without any clear indication of their previously separate history, whereas another ancient ethnolinguistic group may have splintered and formed what may now be considered to be a language family rather than a single ethnic group (and, again, some of those splinter groups may have subsequently assimilated into mainstream Chinese culture).

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avvaiyar
01-10-2022, 02:29 PM
Indeed N1b-F2930 was rather prominent in China during the neolithic and bronze age periods, especially in the West Liao River and lower reaches of the Yellow River where multiple samples of N1b-F2930 were found. Three ancient neolithic samples of N1b1-CTS582 dating back 9600 to 8000 years ago were also found in Shandong province, northern China from Xiaojingshan, Boshan and Bianbian. These three samples also serve as the reference population for coastal Northeast Asian autosomal DNA. Also as you mentioned the sample of N1b2-M1819 from Pingliangtai, Henan province. No one really knows what happened or why their population as a percentage of the overall population decreased so much. Various subclades of Haplogroup O2-M122 including 002611, M117 are now some of the most populous in China, it could be due to climate change or a rapid population boom of other people groups which sidelined these subclades of N. As it seems for now, N1b-F2930 was likely one of the main patrilineal markers for millet farmers in neolithic and bronze age northern China, but even today millet is no longer a staple food crop in the northern China where it has been replaced with wheat from West Asia, and southern China on the other hand had always been populated by rice agriculturalists.

The subclades found at Hongshan were tested to be N1 (xN1a, N1c) by the way, which suggests that it is most likely a subclade of N1b-F2930 (which had not been discovered at the time when tests were carried out on these ancient samples). So no, the Hongshan culture was not rich in N1a. The Upper Xiajiadian culture which succeeded Hongshan and Lower Xiajiadian however has been found to contain some N1a1a3-F4063 at Longtoushan archaeological site, which is a subclade of N1a1-TAT. There was also a shift towards some sort of pastoralism or nomadism by the time of Upper Xiajiadian.

The ethnogenesis of the Yi people (彝族) is an interesting topic. They speak a language of Sino-Tibetan>Tibeto-Burman origin but they do have diverse origins with multiple Y-haplogroups and even a caste system of their own. Most of the Haplogroup N1b-F2930 found among the Yi ethnicity today belongs to the N1b2-CTS4714 subclade which is predominantly spread around western China. It is not unheard of for southwestern ethnic minorities to have interesting Y-haplogroups atypical for their geographical location such as N, even the Hani people (哈尼族) in Yunnan province are also noted for their high frequency of Haplogroup Q.

Han Chinese from Guangzhou do not have any higher frequency of N1b-F2930 compared to Chinese from other parts of the country, I know the study you are referring to from Wikipedia. However that is only one study and it is relatively old with a very small amount of samples being taken. If anything, Guangdong province (of which Guangzhou is the provincial capital) has a lower frequency of N1b-F2930 compared to rest of the country (accounting only for 3.13% of the male population). Based on current data from 23mofang (the largest genetic testing company in China), Qinghai province in northwestern China has the highest frequency of N1b-F2930 at 5.20%, followed by Shanghai at 5.09%, Chongqing at 5.02%, Sichuan at 4.82% and Tibet at 4.62%, however as far as ancient samples go, based on current evidence N1b-F2930's early area of activity was most likely, once again, the region of the West Liao River (especially centered around the region of Chifeng, Inner Mongolia) and the lower reaches of the Yellow River in northern China.

You are right there is not one single ethnic group in the modern world with a substantial amount of N1b-F2930, as a descendant of N1b-F2930 myself, it seems we have all just melded into the surrounding population of East Asia lol.

I think the samples tested to be C2b(C3*) by Fudan are quite reliable.

Thanks for your info and correction.

Do you know anything about this DNA analysis of Tang Taizong's grandmother?
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Pribislav
01-10-2022, 09:08 PM
An incredible diversity of N1a and N1b lineages may be found even among the present-day Chinese. In terms of numbers, the most important are N1b2-M1819 (TMRCA 6870 years, approximately 33.71% of all Y-DNA haplogroup N in China), N1b1-CTS582 (TMRCA 12490 years, approximately 21.06% of all haplogroup N in China), N1a2a-F1101 (TMRCA 8200 years, approximately 17.59% of all haplogroup N in China), N1a1a3-F4063 (TMRCA 7110 years, approximately 12.41% of all haplogroup N in China), and N-Y149447 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-Y149447/) (TMRCA 13870 years, approximately 8.35% of all haplogroup N in China; N-Y149447 is a sister clade of N1a1-Tat). Most of these subclades of N are not found anywhere outside China except where they appear to be ascribable to (proto)historic gene flow from China rather than the reverse.

It seems pretty clear that this is a case of differential reproductive success within (the present-day boundaries of) China itself. Actually, the N-M128 clade, which some people have hypothesized may be linked to the royal Jī clan (姬氏) of Zhou, currently accounts for the Y-DNA of about 0.89% of Chinese males, so there may be more than six million males who are direct patrilineal descendants of the Jī clan in China alone (not including descendants of this clan in foreign countries, such as Korea, Vietnam, and Japan). When you look at the situation in terms of absolute numbers, this clan does not seem to have fared too poorly. They only seem to have faded into obscurity if you compare them to the staggering number of descendants of certain subclades of O2-M122 and C2b1-F2613 that appear to have multiplied exponentially during the Neolithic or even some other subclades that are less well known, such as O1b1a2a1-F3323 (TMRCA 3680 years according to 23mofang, TMRCA 3800 [95% CI 4200 <-> 3400] ybp according to YFull; accounts for the Y-DNA of approximately 2.01% of present-day Chinese males according to 23mofang).

Great post Ebizur! Can you also share the percentage of total N among the present-day Chinese that goes to subclades N2-Y6503, N1a2b-P43 and F1419 or L708?

SG_Jun
01-11-2022, 01:29 AM
Great post Ebizur! Can you also share the percentage of total N among the present-day Chinese that goes to subclades N2-Y6503, N1a2b-P43 and F1419 or L708?

The issue with 23mofang distribution maps is that they are only available for viewing for anyone with an account belonging to that certain haplogroup. So for instance the distribution map for N1a2b-P43 would only be able to be viewed by someone with an account for anyone who has tested N1a-F1206. And for myself I am only able to view any distribution maps for branches of N1b-F2930. The company itself has shared some maps to the public (like N-M128 or O-F3323 as shown above by Ebizur) but many are not shared publicly.

I have, however, managed to get hold of a distribution map of N2-Y6503 around China because a Serbian man with Haplogroup N2 contacted me to help out with the uploading of his .bam file to 23mofang and payment (since it is all in Chinese language). I managed to get a screenshot of the distribution map for N2-Y6503.

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And this is the distribution map for N1b-F2930
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As for the distribution map of N1a2b-P43 and N-F1419 or N-L708, I could get it for you but I'll have to contact the other N1a-F1206 members of our Haplogroup N community in China on WeChat. It would probably take a while. It would be good if Ebizur has it on hand though :)

SG_Jun
01-11-2022, 05:25 AM
Thanks for your info and correction.

Do you know anything about this DNA analysis of Tang Taizong's grandmother?
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It has been long standing news that Tang Taizong is part Xianbei on his maternal line (some self-proclaimed, ultranationalist pseudo-historians have even used this to claim that Tang Taizong should therefore be considered Xianbei and not Han lol). There is no DNA analysis of Tang Taizong and/or his grandmother but safe to say he would definitely still be considered Han regardless, considering most of his family is still Han

Ebizur
01-11-2022, 12:44 PM
Great post Ebizur! Can you also share the percentage of total N among the present-day Chinese that goes to subclades N2-Y6503, N1a2b-P43 and F1419 or L708?Thank you.

Haplogroup N-M231 on 23mofang as of 2021/12/31
*N-B482/Y6503 (TMRCA 9010 years) 19 members (Gao 高 from Songyuan, Jilin x1, He 何 from Songyuan, Jilin x1, Liu 刘 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x2, Gao 高 from Tangshan, Hebei x2, Zhao 赵 from Zhangjiakou, Hebei x1, He 赫 from Cangzhou, Hebei x1, He 赫 from Shijiazhuang, Hebei x1, Liu 刘 from Shangqiu, Henan x1, Zheng 郑 from Xuchang, Henan x3, Wang 王 from Suzhou, Anhui x1, Jin 金 from Yangzhou, Jiangsu x1, Jin 金 from Shanghai x1, He 何 from Nanchong, Sichuan x1, Lu 路 from Xianyang, Shaanxi x1, Guan 关 from Xinjiang x1)
**N-MF39028 1 member (Shan 单 from Qiqihar, Heilongjiang x1)
**N-FGC28396/Y6467 (TMRCA 3860 years) 1 member (Jin 金 from Beijing x1)
***N-Y6516 (TMRCA 3270 years)
****N-Y7310 (TMRCA 920 years)
*****N-Y7313 (TMRCA 620 years)
******N-FGC28435 (TMRCA 620 years)
*******N-FGC28483 (TMRCA 500 years)
********N-Y81537 1 member (Wu 乌 Other (ethnicity) 其他 from undisclosed x1)
22 members N2-B482/Y6503 total (22/14409 = 0.153% of all N-M231)

*N-P43 (TMRCA 4710 years) 5 members (Galimov from Diaoyu Island x1, Б** from Beijing x1, Jin 金 from Kunming, Yunnan x1, Zhang 张 from Heze, Shandong x2)
**N-Y3195 (TMRCA 4060 years)
***N-Y3185 (TMRCA 2700 years)
****N-VL97 (TMRCA 2700 years)
*****N-FGC38830 (TMRCA 2700 years)
******N-Y30121 (TMRCA 1850 years) 1 member (Sychugov from Russia x1)
**N-VL67 (TMRCA 4710 years) 1 member (bohay from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1)
***N-B525 (TMRCA 2060 years) 32 members (Ma 马 from Nanjing, Jiangsu x1, Yin 尹 from Hengyang, Hunan x1, He 何 from Hanzhong, Shaanxi x1, Yang 杨 from Yingkou, Liaoning x2, Tiemur 铁木尔 from Changji Hui Autonomous Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Chen 陈 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Yang 杨 from Fushun, Liaoning x1, Wang 王 from Linxia Hui AP, Gansu x1, Zhang 张 from Nanyang, Henan x1, Yang 杨 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1, Nie 聂 from Xi'an, Shaanxi x1, Rejifu 热吉甫 from Urumqi, Xinjiang x1, Aili 艾力 from Karamay, Xinjiang x1, Zhang 张 from Jixi, Heilongjiang x2, Sun 孙 from Anyang, Henan x1, He 何 from Beijing x1, Yin 尹 from Ili Kazakh AP, Xinjiang x1, Su 苏 from Huludao, Liaoning x1, Guan 关 from Jilin, Jilin x1, Morzaikebair 莫尔再克拜尔 from Ili Kazakh AP, Xinjiang x1, Ma 马 from Tonghua, Jilin x1, Yang 杨 from Dingxi, Gansu x1, Ba 巴 from Lhasa, Tibet Autonomous Region x1, Ma 马 from Chengde, Hebei x1, Wang 王 from Beijing x1, Chen 陈 from undisclosed x1, Zhi 知 from Diqing Tibetan AP, Yunnan x1, Ma 马 from Diqing Tibetan AP, Yunnan x3)
****N-VL83 (TMRCA 2060 years) 16 members (Zhang 张 from Baoding, Hebei x1, Kelimu 克里木 from Turpan, Xinjiang x1, Xie Guiwen 谢贵文 from Zhangjiakou, Hebei x1, Zhang 张 from Qujing, Yunnan x1, Zhang 张 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Suo 索 from Beijing x1, Na 纳 from Xining, Qinghai x1, Yang 杨 from Baoji, Shaanxi x2, Dong Feifei 董飞非 from Baoji, Shaanxi x1, Kang 康 from Dingxi, Gansu x1, Li 李 from Heze, Shandong x1, Fan 范 from Shijiazhuang, Hebei x1, Amutijiang 阿木提江 from Karamay, Xinjiang x1, Abudureheman 阿卜杜热合曼 from Kashgar Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Borzhijin 孛儿只斤 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1)
***N-P63 (TMRCA 3800 years) 51 members (Bai 白 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Jia 贾 from Huludao, Liaoning x1, Hu 胡 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Xia 夏 from Changji Hui AP, Xinjiang x1, Wu 吴 from Fuxin, Liaoning x9, Sa 萨 from Hulunbuir, Inner Mongolia x1, Hu 呼 from Hohhot, Inner Mongolia x1, Guan 关 from Changchun, Jilin x1, Zhou 周 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Xie 谢 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x1, Wang 王 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x1, Zhao 赵 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x1, Li 李 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x2, A**/E 阿** from Changji Hui AP, Xinjiang x2, Zhang 张 from Songyuan, Jilin x1, Qi 齐 from Beijing x1, Wulianghai 乌梁海 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Bao 包 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x2, Yang 杨 from Qiqihar, Heilongjiang x1, Yekeben 也克本 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Du 杜 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Qian 钱 from Chaoyang, Liaoning x1, Nutuguqin 努图古沁 from Xilingol League, Inner Mongolia x1, He 何 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Hai 海 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Hou 侯 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Borzhijin 孛尔只斤 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Tu 图 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x1, Li 李 from Beijing x1, Wu 吴 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1, Kang 康 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1, zyaxbek from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Zha 查 from undisclosed x1, merkit from Urumqi, Xinjiang x1, Guobule 郭布勒 from Harbin, Heilongjiang x1, Xi 锡 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, E 鄂 from Dandong, Liaoning x1, Zhang 张 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x2, You 尤 from Jiamusi, Heilongjiang x1)
****N-B175 (TMRCA 3800 years) 2 members (Wei 魏 from Beijing x2)
*****N-B227 (TMRCA 3590 years)
******N-Z35131 (TMRCA 3300 years) 6 members (Huang 黄 from Liaoyang, Liaoning x2, Kou 寇 from Dalian, Liaoning x2, Kou 寇 from Yanbian Korean AP, Jilin x1, Wang 王 from Anshan, Liaoning x1)
****N-Z35097 (TMRCA 3130 years)
*****N-Y135851 (TMRCA 1560 years) 1 member (Zhao 赵 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1)
******N-Y125115 (TMRCA 1120 years)
*******N-MF43865 (TMRCA 360 years)
********N-MF167152 1 member (Wu 吴(乌) Mongol from Fuxin, Liaoning x1)
116 members N1a2b-P43 total (116/14409 = 0.805% of all N-M231)

*N-CTS6128/N-F1419 (TMRCA 11220 years) 1 member (Zhang 张 from Guangyuan, Sichuan x1)
**N-Y24317 (TMRCA 10800 years) 8 members (Zhang 张 from Longnan, Gansu x2, A**/E 阿 from directly administered area, Xinjiang x1, Liu 刘 from a district 市辖区 of Chongqing x1, Ni 泥 from Lijiang, Yunnan x1, Ache 阿车 from Lijiang, Yunnan x1, Xiong 熊 from Lijiang, Yunnan x1, Zhang 张 from Lijiang, Yunnan x1)
***N-B187 (TMRCA 1050 years) 1 member (He 何 from a county 县 of Chongqing x1)
**N-L392/N-L708 (TMRCA 7960 years)
***N-Y9022 (TMRCA 4000 years) 1 member (An 安 from Nanjing, Jiangsu x1)
***N-M2126 (TMRCA 6920 years) 8 members (Zhang 张 from Urumqi, Xinjiang x1, Aihaiti 艾海提 from Kashgar Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Xia 夏 from Turpan, Xinjiang x1, Xue 薛 from Xianyang, Shaanxi x1, Turhong 吐尔洪 from Aksu Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Chen 陈 from Qiqihar, Heilongjiang x1, Lu 陆 from Kaifeng, Henan x1, Cui 崔 from Jincheng, Shanxi x1)
****N-M2019 (TMRCA 3960 years) 9 members (Chen 陈 from Xilingol League, Inner Mongolia x1, Wang 王 from Songyuan, Jilin x1, Uyghur ethnic 维吾尔族 from Hami, Xinjiang x1, Han 韩 from Changzhi, Shanxi x1, Xue 薛 from Lüliang, Shanxi x1, Zhao 赵 from Xi'an, Shaanxi x1, Yang 杨 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Niu 牛 from Yan'an, Shaanxi x1, Ren 任 from Cangzhou, Hebei x1)
*****N-M2058 (TMRCA 3810 years) 35 members
******N-MF36044 1 member (Liu 刘 Han Chinese from Qingyang, Gansu x1)
******N-M2016 (TMRCA 3400 years) 17 members
******N-A9408 (TMRCA 3810 years) 55 members
*******N-PH1612 (TMRCA 2350 years) 5 members (Jiang 蒋 from Shangqiu, Henan x1, Han 韩 from Dezhou, Shandong x1, Han 韩 from undisclosed x1, Zhang 张 from Tangshan, Hebei x1, Zheng 郑 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1)
********N-BY67478 1 member (Zhang 张 Han Chinese from Yulin, Shaanxi x1)
********N-A9411 (TMRCA 1700 years) 1 member (Ha 哈 from Ili Kazakh AP, Xinjiang x1)
*********N-PH1896 (TMRCA 1050 years) 14 members (Han 韩 from Dezhou, Shandong x2, Wang 王 from Mudanjiang, Heilongjiang x1, Zhang 张 from Zhongwei, Ningxia x1, Tuohuti 托乎提 from Aksu Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Nu 努 from Hotan Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Hu 虎 from Baoding, Hebei x1, Wang 王 from Tacheng Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Zhou 周 from Suzhou, Anhui x1, Jiang 蒋 from Bozhou, Anhui x1, Han 韩 from Tai'an, Shandong x1, Yu 玉 from Hotan Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Zhao 赵 from Harbin, Heilongjiang x1, Hu 虎 from Bijie, Guizhou x1)
*******N-Y70200 (TMRCA 3200 years) 83 members
********N-Y60223 (TMRCA 2780 years) 210 members
*********N-MF163368 (TMRCA 2220 years)
**********N-MF241288 1 member (Xiao 萧 Han Chinese from Meizhou, Guangdong x1)
**********N-MF191097 1 member (Lu 卢 Han Chinese from Handan, Hebei x1)
**********N-MF217121 1 member (Hu 胡 Han Chinese from Benxi, Liaoning x1)
*********N-MF94610 (TMRCA 2000 years)
**********N-MF194207 (TMRCA 2000 years)
***********N-MF194204 1 member (He 贺 Han Chinese from Xi'an, Shaanxi x1)
****N-L1026 (TMRCA 5020 years) 38 members (Ma 马 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Yan 闫 from Dalian, Liaoning x1, Yan 闫 from Harbin, Heilongjiang x1, A**/E 阿** from Urumqi, Xinjiang x1, Naiman 奈曼 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Liljergren from undisclosed x1, Dui 对 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Naiman 乃蛮 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Irgen Gioro 伊尔艮觉罗 from Harbin, Heilongjiang x1, Kelimuhan 克力木汗 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Dang 党 from Xi'an, Shaanxi x1, Lei 雷 from Zhangjiakou, Hebei x1, Guan 关 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Li 李 from Weifang, Shandong x1, Zhang 张 from Baotou, Inner Mongolia x1, Yan 阎 from Dalian, Liaoning x1, Xue 薛 from Xingtai, Hebei x1, Ai 艾 from Aksu Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Xu 许 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Fu 傅 from Weifang, Shandong x1, He 何 from Dingxi, Gansu x2, Yang 杨 from Lanzhou, Gansu x1, Zhu 朱 from Yulin, Shaanxi x1, Guan 关 from Liaoyang, Liaoning x1, Bu 卜 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Xu 许 from Linfen, Shanxi x1, Wu 武 from Xianyang, Shaanxi x1, Ivars Krutainis from Shanghai x1, Guan 关 from Tonghua, Jilin x1, Lei 雷 from Chengdu, Sichuan x1, Wu 吾 from Hotan Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Jin 金 from Beijing x1, Wang 王 from Changzhi, Shanxi x1, Li 李 from Jiamusi, Heilongjiang x1, Li 李 from Hohhot, Inner Mongolia x2, Zhang 张 from Zhengzhou, Henan x1)
*****N-Z1936 (TMRCA 4880 years) 1 member (M** from Shanghai x1)
*****N-Y6058 (TMRCA 4860 years)
******N-Y16323 (TMRCA 4860 years)
*******N-F4205 (TMRCA 3090 years) 37 members
********N-Y16221 (TMRCA 2950 years)
*********N-Y16220 (TMRCA 2650 years)
**********N-MF258798 1 member (Ma 马 Han Chinese from Zaozhuang, Shandong x1)
**********N-B219 (TMRCA 2610 years) 85 members
***********N-F2288 (TMRCA 1840 years) 8 members (Bai from Chaoyang, Liaoning x1, Gao from Nanjing, Jiangsu x1, Liu from Tangshan, Hebei x2, Zhao from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Bao from Tacheng Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, l** from Beijing x1, Liu from Xianyang, Shaanxi x1)
************N-MF285162 1 member (Xu 徐 Xibo from Shenyang, Liaoning x1)
***********N-Z35327 (TMRCA 2610 years) 4 members (Chai 柴 from Ordos City, Inner Mongolia x1, Ge 葛 from Ordos City, Inner Mongolia x1, Suonancairang 索南才让 from Haidong, Qinghai x1, Dong Weiwei 董炜炜 from Chengdu, Sichuan x1)
************N-B199 (TMRCA 2300 years) 1 member (Huasai from Hulunbuir, Inner Mongolia x1)
******N-CTS10760 (TMRCA 4270 years)
*******N-VL29 (TMRCA 3590 years)
********N-CTS9976 (TMRCA 3590 years)
*********N-L1022 (TMRCA 3460 years)
**********N-Y5004 (TMRCA 3360 years)
***********N-Y7300 (TMRCA 2800 years)
************N-Y15813 (TMRCA 1900 years)
*************N-Y15812 (TMRCA 1650 years)
**************N-Y23576 (TMRCA 1300 years)
***************N-Y15615 (TMRCA 1200 years) 1 member (Lillvik from Hong Kong x1)
********N-Z4908 (TMRCA 3220 years)
*********N-BY33101 (TMRCA 3190 years)
**********N-MF232821 1 member (Bayate 巴雅特 Mongol from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1)
*********N-L550 (TMRCA 2810 years) 1 member (Han 韩 from Yanbian Korean AP, Jilin x1)
633 members N1a1a1-CTS6128/N1a1a1-F1419 total (633/14409 = 4.393% of all N-M231)

SG_Jun
01-11-2022, 03:48 PM
Thank you.

Haplogroup N-M231 on 23mofang as of 2021/12/31
*N-B482/Y6503 (TMRCA 9010 years) 19 members (Gao 高 from Songyuan, Jilin x1, He 何 from Songyuan, Jilin x1, Liu 刘 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x2, Gao 高 from Tangshan, Hebei x2, Zhao 赵 from Zhangjiakou, Hebei x1, He 赫 from Cangzhou, Hebei x1, He 赫 from Shijiazhuang, Hebei x1, Liu 刘 from Shangqiu, Henan x1, Zheng 郑 from Xuchang, Henan x3, Wang 王 from Suzhou, Anhui x1, Jin 金 from Yangzhou, Jiangsu x1, Jin 金 from Shanghai x1, He 何 from Nanchong, Sichuan x1, Lu 路 from Xianyang, Shaanxi x1, Guan 关 from Xinjiang x1)
**N-MF39028 1 member (Shan 单 from Qiqihar, Heilongjiang x1)
**N-FGC28396/Y6467 (TMRCA 3860 years) 1 member (Jin 金 from Beijing x1)
***N-Y6516 (TMRCA 3270 years)
****N-Y7310 (TMRCA 920 years)
*****N-Y7313 (TMRCA 620 years)
******N-FGC28435 (TMRCA 620 years)
*******N-FGC28483 (TMRCA 500 years)
********N-Y81537 1 member (Wu 乌 Other (ethnicity) 其他 from undisclosed x1)
22 members N2-B482/Y6503 total (22/14409 = 0.153% of all N-M231)

*N-P43 (TMRCA 4710 years) 5 members (Galimov from Diaoyu Island x1, Б** from Beijing x1, Jin 金 from Kunming, Yunnan x1, Zhang 张 from Heze, Shandong x2)
**N-Y3195 (TMRCA 4060 years)
***N-Y3185 (TMRCA 2700 years)
****N-VL97 (TMRCA 2700 years)
*****N-FGC38830 (TMRCA 2700 years)
******N-Y30121 (TMRCA 1850 years) 1 member (Sychugov from Russia x1)
**N-VL67 (TMRCA 4710 years) 1 member (bohay from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1)
***N-B525 (TMRCA 2060 years) 32 members (Ma 马 from Nanjing, Jiangsu x1, Yin 尹 from Hengyang, Hunan x1, He 何 from Hanzhong, Shaanxi x1, Yang 杨 from Yingkou, Liaoning x2, Tiemur 铁木尔 from Changji Hui Autonomous Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Chen 陈 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Yang 杨 from Fushun, Liaoning x1, Wang 王 from Linxia Hui AP, Gansu x1, Zhang 张 from Nanyang, Henan x1, Yang 杨 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1, Nie 聂 from Xi'an, Shaanxi x1, Rejifu 热吉甫 from Urumqi, Xinjiang x1, Aili 艾力 from Karamay, Xinjiang x1, Zhang 张 from Jixi, Heilongjiang x2, Sun 孙 from Anyang, Henan x1, He 何 from Beijing x1, Yin 尹 from Ili Kazakh AP, Xinjiang x1, Su 苏 from Huludao, Liaoning x1, Guan 关 from Jilin, Jilin x1, Morzaikebair 莫尔再克拜尔 from Ili Kazakh AP, Xinjiang x1, Ma 马 from Tonghua, Jilin x1, Yang 杨 from Dingxi, Gansu x1, Ba 巴 from Lhasa, Tibet Autonomous Region x1, Ma 马 from Chengde, Hebei x1, Wang 王 from Beijing x1, Chen 陈 from undisclosed x1, Zhi 知 from Diqing Tibetan AP, Yunnan x1, Ma 马 from Diqing Tibetan AP, Yunnan x3)
****N-VL83 (TMRCA 2060 years) 16 members (Zhang 张 from Baoding, Hebei x1, Kelimu 克里木 from Turpan, Xinjiang x1, Xie Guiwen 谢贵文 from Zhangjiakou, Hebei x1, Zhang 张 from Qujing, Yunnan x1, Zhang 张 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Suo 索 from Beijing x1, Na 纳 from Xining, Qinghai x1, Yang 杨 from Baoji, Shaanxi x2, Dong Feifei 董飞非 from Baoji, Shaanxi x1, Kang 康 from Dingxi, Gansu x1, Li 李 from Heze, Shandong x1, Fan 范 from Shijiazhuang, Hebei x1, Amutijiang 阿木提江 from Karamay, Xinjiang x1, Abudureheman 阿卜杜热合曼 from Kashgar Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Borzhijin 孛儿只斤 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1)
***N-P63 (TMRCA 3800 years) 51 members (Bai 白 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Jia 贾 from Huludao, Liaoning x1, Hu 胡 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Xia 夏 from Changji Hui AP, Xinjiang x1, Wu 吴 from Fuxin, Liaoning x9, Sa 萨 from Hulunbuir, Inner Mongolia x1, Hu 呼 from Hohhot, Inner Mongolia x1, Guan 关 from Changchun, Jilin x1, Zhou 周 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Xie 谢 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x1, Wang 王 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x1, Zhao 赵 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x1, Li 李 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x2, A**/E 阿** from Changji Hui AP, Xinjiang x2, Zhang 张 from Songyuan, Jilin x1, Qi 齐 from Beijing x1, Wulianghai 乌梁海 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Bao 包 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x2, Yang 杨 from Qiqihar, Heilongjiang x1, Yekeben 也克本 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Du 杜 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Qian 钱 from Chaoyang, Liaoning x1, Nutuguqin 努图古沁 from Xilingol League, Inner Mongolia x1, He 何 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Hai 海 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Hou 侯 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Borzhijin 孛尔只斤 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Tu 图 from Hinggan League, Inner Mongolia x1, Li 李 from Beijing x1, Wu 吴 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1, Kang 康 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1, zyaxbek from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Zha 查 from undisclosed x1, merkit from Urumqi, Xinjiang x1, Guobule 郭布勒 from Harbin, Heilongjiang x1, Xi 锡 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, E 鄂 from Dandong, Liaoning x1, Zhang 张 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x2, You 尤 from Jiamusi, Heilongjiang x1)
****N-B175 (TMRCA 3800 years) 2 members (Wei 魏 from Beijing x2)
*****N-B227 (TMRCA 3590 years)
******N-Z35131 (TMRCA 3300 years) 6 members (Huang 黄 from Liaoyang, Liaoning x2, Kou 寇 from Dalian, Liaoning x2, Kou 寇 from Yanbian Korean AP, Jilin x1, Wang 王 from Anshan, Liaoning x1)
****N-Z35097 (TMRCA 3130 years)
*****N-Y135851 (TMRCA 1560 years) 1 member (Zhao 赵 from Tongliao, Inner Mongolia x1)
******N-Y125115 (TMRCA 1120 years)
*******N-MF43865 (TMRCA 360 years)
********N-MF167152 1 member (Wu 吴(乌) Mongol from Fuxin, Liaoning x1)
116 members N1a2b-P43 total (116/14409 = 0.805% of all N-M231)

*N-CTS6128/N-F1419 (TMRCA 11220 years) 1 member (Zhang 张 from Guangyuan, Sichuan x1)
**N-Y24317 (TMRCA 10800 years) 8 members (Zhang 张 from Longnan, Gansu x2, A**/E 阿 from directly administered area, Xinjiang x1, Liu 刘 from a district 市辖区 of Chongqing x1, Ni 泥 from Lijiang, Yunnan x1, Ache 阿车 from Lijiang, Yunnan x1, Xiong 熊 from Lijiang, Yunnan x1, Zhang 张 from Lijiang, Yunnan x1)
***N-B187 (TMRCA 1050 years) 1 member (He 何 from a county 县 of Chongqing x1)
**N-L392/N-L708 (TMRCA 7960 years)
***N-Y9022 (TMRCA 4000 years) 1 member (An 安 from Nanjing, Jiangsu x1)
***N-M2126 (TMRCA 6920 years) 8 members (Zhang 张 from Urumqi, Xinjiang x1, Aihaiti 艾海提 from Kashgar Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Xia 夏 from Turpan, Xinjiang x1, Xue 薛 from Xianyang, Shaanxi x1, Turhong 吐尔洪 from Aksu Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Chen 陈 from Qiqihar, Heilongjiang x1, Lu 陆 from Kaifeng, Henan x1, Cui 崔 from Jincheng, Shanxi x1)
****N-M2019 (TMRCA 3960 years) 9 members (Chen 陈 from Xilingol League, Inner Mongolia x1, Wang 王 from Songyuan, Jilin x1, Uyghur ethnic 维吾尔族 from Hami, Xinjiang x1, Han 韩 from Changzhi, Shanxi x1, Xue 薛 from Lüliang, Shanxi x1, Zhao 赵 from Xi'an, Shaanxi x1, Yang 杨 from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Niu 牛 from Yan'an, Shaanxi x1, Ren 任 from Cangzhou, Hebei x1)
*****N-M2058 (TMRCA 3810 years) 35 members
******N-MF36044 1 member (Liu 刘 Han Chinese from Qingyang, Gansu x1)
******N-M2016 (TMRCA 3400 years) 17 members
******N-A9408 (TMRCA 3810 years) 55 members
*******N-PH1612 (TMRCA 2350 years) 5 members (Jiang 蒋 from Shangqiu, Henan x1, Han 韩 from Dezhou, Shandong x1, Han 韩 from undisclosed x1, Zhang 张 from Tangshan, Hebei x1, Zheng 郑 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1)
********N-BY67478 1 member (Zhang 张 Han Chinese from Yulin, Shaanxi x1)
********N-A9411 (TMRCA 1700 years) 1 member (Ha 哈 from Ili Kazakh AP, Xinjiang x1)
*********N-PH1896 (TMRCA 1050 years) 14 members (Han 韩 from Dezhou, Shandong x2, Wang 王 from Mudanjiang, Heilongjiang x1, Zhang 张 from Zhongwei, Ningxia x1, Tuohuti 托乎提 from Aksu Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Nu 努 from Hotan Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Hu 虎 from Baoding, Hebei x1, Wang 王 from Tacheng Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Zhou 周 from Suzhou, Anhui x1, Jiang 蒋 from Bozhou, Anhui x1, Han 韩 from Tai'an, Shandong x1, Yu 玉 from Hotan Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Zhao 赵 from Harbin, Heilongjiang x1, Hu 虎 from Bijie, Guizhou x1)
*******N-Y70200 (TMRCA 3200 years) 83 members
********N-Y60223 (TMRCA 2780 years) 210 members
*********N-MF163368 (TMRCA 2220 years)
**********N-MF241288 1 member (Xiao 萧 Han Chinese from Meizhou, Guangdong x1)
**********N-MF191097 1 member (Lu 卢 Han Chinese from Handan, Hebei x1)
**********N-MF217121 1 member (Hu 胡 Han Chinese from Benxi, Liaoning x1)
*********N-MF94610 (TMRCA 2000 years)
**********N-MF194207 (TMRCA 2000 years)
***********N-MF194204 1 member (He 贺 Han Chinese from Xi'an, Shaanxi x1)
****N-L1026 (TMRCA 5020 years) 38 members (Ma 马 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Yan 闫 from Dalian, Liaoning x1, Yan 闫 from Harbin, Heilongjiang x1, A**/E 阿** from Urumqi, Xinjiang x1, Naiman 奈曼 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Liljergren from undisclosed x1, Dui 对 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Naiman 乃蛮 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Irgen Gioro 伊尔艮觉罗 from Harbin, Heilongjiang x1, Kelimuhan 克力木汗 from Altay Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Dang 党 from Xi'an, Shaanxi x1, Lei 雷 from Zhangjiakou, Hebei x1, Guan 关 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Li 李 from Weifang, Shandong x1, Zhang 张 from Baotou, Inner Mongolia x1, Yan 阎 from Dalian, Liaoning x1, Xue 薛 from Xingtai, Hebei x1, Ai 艾 from Aksu Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Xu 许 from Fuxin, Liaoning x1, Fu 傅 from Weifang, Shandong x1, He 何 from Dingxi, Gansu x2, Yang 杨 from Lanzhou, Gansu x1, Zhu 朱 from Yulin, Shaanxi x1, Guan 关 from Liaoyang, Liaoning x1, Bu 卜 from Shenyang, Liaoning x1, Xu 许 from Linfen, Shanxi x1, Wu 武 from Xianyang, Shaanxi x1, Ivars Krutainis from Shanghai x1, Guan 关 from Tonghua, Jilin x1, Lei 雷 from Chengdu, Sichuan x1, Wu 吾 from Hotan Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, Jin 金 from Beijing x1, Wang 王 from Changzhi, Shanxi x1, Li 李 from Jiamusi, Heilongjiang x1, Li 李 from Hohhot, Inner Mongolia x2, Zhang 张 from Zhengzhou, Henan x1)
*****N-Z1936 (TMRCA 4880 years) 1 member (M** from Shanghai x1)
*****N-Y6058 (TMRCA 4860 years)
******N-Y16323 (TMRCA 4860 years)
*******N-F4205 (TMRCA 3090 years) 37 members
********N-Y16221 (TMRCA 2950 years)
*********N-Y16220 (TMRCA 2650 years)
**********N-MF258798 1 member (Ma 马 Han Chinese from Zaozhuang, Shandong x1)
**********N-B219 (TMRCA 2610 years) 85 members
***********N-F2288 (TMRCA 1840 years) 8 members (Bai from Chaoyang, Liaoning x1, Gao from Nanjing, Jiangsu x1, Liu from Tangshan, Hebei x2, Zhao from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1, Bao from Tacheng Prefecture, Xinjiang x1, l** from Beijing x1, Liu from Xianyang, Shaanxi x1)
************N-MF285162 1 member (Xu 徐 Xibo from Shenyang, Liaoning x1)
***********N-Z35327 (TMRCA 2610 years) 4 members (Chai 柴 from Ordos City, Inner Mongolia x1, Ge 葛 from Ordos City, Inner Mongolia x1, Suonancairang 索南才让 from Haidong, Qinghai x1, Dong Weiwei 董炜炜 from Chengdu, Sichuan x1)
************N-B199 (TMRCA 2300 years) 1 member (Huasai from Hulunbuir, Inner Mongolia x1)
******N-CTS10760 (TMRCA 4270 years)
*******N-VL29 (TMRCA 3590 years)
********N-CTS9976 (TMRCA 3590 years)
*********N-L1022 (TMRCA 3460 years)
**********N-Y5004 (TMRCA 3360 years)
***********N-Y7300 (TMRCA 2800 years)
************N-Y15813 (TMRCA 1900 years)
*************N-Y15812 (TMRCA 1650 years)
**************N-Y23576 (TMRCA 1300 years)
***************N-Y15615 (TMRCA 1200 years) 1 member (Lillvik from Hong Kong x1)
********N-Z4908 (TMRCA 3220 years)
*********N-BY33101 (TMRCA 3190 years)
**********N-MF232821 1 member (Bayate 巴雅特 Mongol from Chifeng, Inner Mongolia x1)
*********N-L550 (TMRCA 2810 years) 1 member (Han 韩 from Yanbian Korean AP, Jilin x1)
633 members N1a1a1-CTS6128/N1a1a1-F1419 total (633/14409 = 4.393% of all N-M231)

Thank you so much for your effort! N-P43 Galimov from Diaoyu Islands is most definitely Russian B) lol

avvaiyar
02-02-2022, 07:21 AM
in line with earlier reports of N-F1998 also being found among aristocratic graves at Xinancheng (西南呈) by Fudan University. Based on current research by 23mofang (largest DNA testing company in China), it seems that N-F1998 also fits the geographic distribution and TMRCA, population boom around the dawn of the Western Zhou Dynasty, therefore it is currently the prime candidate for the Y-DNA haplogroup of the Ji family clan

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354025208_Ancient_Y-DNA_with_reconstructed_phylogeny_provide_insights_ into_the_demographic_history_of_paternal_haplogrou p_N1a2-F1360


The particular tomb [M15] in Xinancheng, in which N-F1998 is found, is interesting, This tomb dates back to the late western Zhou period. The tomb had many characteristics which make it a possibly a high level noble tomb, particularly this tomb had largest amount of burial cart for a western Zhou period tomb (some 14 carts are found, all carts are "one car two horses ")


M15 is buried with stone chimes, and M1, M8, M33, M64, M91, and M93 of the Jinhou Cemetery are also buried with stone chimes. In addition, there are 14 burial cars in the M15 tomb road, which is the largest number of burial cars in the Western Zhou tombs found so far, which is close to the number of burial cars in the tombs of Uncle Jing in Zhangjiapo Jingshu [13], which can also indicate that the level of M15 may be similar to that of Uncle Jing.

Based on the analogy of the south direction of the tomb, the juxtaposition of the couple's cave, the martyrdom of the dog on the second floor, the burial of the stone chime, and the burial of a large number of vehicles in the tomb, the level of the owner of the M15 tomb is close to that of the high-ranking nobles of the Western Zhou Dynasty such as the Marquis of Jin and Uncle Jing, and may also be the princes of the Ji surname. In addition, the tomb shape system and excavated artifact characteristics of the 14 small tombs are basically the same as those of small and medium-sized tombs in Qucun, which belong to the category of Jin culture tombs.

山西山西长子县西南呈西周墓地发掘简报
(https://club.yoogene.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=637&extra=page%3D1)

Now, given this exact lineage also found in aristocrats of Li state (a small Zhou vassal kingdom from Spring and Autoumn period), it's possible this lineage infact closely linked to at least some Zhou people.

avvaiyar
02-02-2022, 07:27 AM
I just acknowledged some of these data are already published but only in Chinese


The paternal genetic haplotype of Yuan Wei, a descendant of the Northern Wei Dynasty, is C3b-F1756, which is a genetic type with high frequency distribution in the eastern Transbaikal-Mongolia Plateau. Considering that the Tuoba Xianbei tribes are also closely related to the Mongolian people in the north Asian type in terms of skull morphological characteristics and maternal genetic relationship, the study believes that the Tuoba tribe originated in the eastern part of the Transbaikal-Mongolian Plateau


In 2016, Jilin University completed the mitochondrial DNA detection of Yuan Hu, the clan of the Northern Wei Dynasty, because the experimental accuracy was too rough-only pointed out that the mitochondrial haplotype belongs to the C type. However, its mitochondrial mutation hotspots are strongly consistent with their previous tests on the residents of the Xianbei cemetery in Dongdajing and Qilang Mountain, indicating that the Tuoba nobles and other Xianbei residents have a very close maternal genetic structure.

隋代鲜卑遗骨反映的拓跋部起源
(https://www-sohu-com.translate.goog/a/219604996_649798?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc)