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Tomenable
03-23-2022, 10:41 PM
Table with data: https://i.imgur.com/YXbls7e.png

https://i.imgur.com/YXbls7e.png

passenger
03-24-2022, 01:56 AM
FYI, you can find all the U.S. census data on the bureau's website: https://www.census.gov/history/www/through_the_decades/overview/

Tomenable
03-24-2022, 02:05 AM
FYI, you can find all the U.S. census data on the bureau's website: https://www.census.gov/history/www/through_the_decades/overview/

Thanks! When making that table I used not just Census Bureau data but also Office of Indian Affairs data.

Because the Census Bureau in 1880 counted only taxed Indians. Those not taxed were counted by OoIA.

Indians taxed - 66407
Indians not taxed - 240136
Indians in Alaska - 32996 (counted by special agent Ivan Petrof)
TOTAL - 339539

I suspect that those 600 with "unknown" race in Florida could also be Indians (Seminole remnants) - so:

TOTAL - 340139

I also confronted 1880 data with pre-contact data (but this data is incomplete, many tribes are missing):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Am ericas#Estimations_by_tribe

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Comparison by macro-region (pre-contact / early contact population vs. 1880 and % remaining in 1880):

https://i.imgur.com/oCS2kkn.png

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Figures for Mexican Cession are without California, which is counted separately. This is how I counted it:

https://i.imgur.com/F4h17El.png

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BTW, between 1880 and 1890 Indian population further declined by 20% (from 340,000 to 274,000).

There is no exact Indian census data before 1880 (in 1870 numbers were based mostly on estimates). But I suppose that in previous decades (1870-1880, 1860-1870 and so on) losses were also at least 20% per decade, or higher. So perhaps in 1870 there were at least 425,000 Indians, in 1860 at least 531,000 Indians, in 1850 at least 664,000 - etc.

passenger
03-24-2022, 02:25 AM
^^Gotcha. I didn't realize this was a table you'd compiled yourself.

The discrepancies in the statistics on Indians/Native Americans are indeed interesting. I'd imagine there was a great deal of underreporting in the Eastern states for a number of reasons.

Tomenable
03-24-2022, 02:38 AM
^^Gotcha. I didn't realize this was a table you'd compiled yourself.

The discrepancies in the statistics on Indians/Native Americans are indeed interesting. I'd imagine there was a great deal of underreporting in the Eastern states for a number of reasons.

I suppose in the Eastern states there were many mixed-race people (Native-white or Native-black) counted as White or Black in 1880. In the 20th century such mixed people started to identify as Natives and that's why you have many self-reported Natives again in the Eastern USA. But I think there are none or only very few full-blooded individuals among them.

Luso
03-24-2022, 03:39 AM
Very cool, it's nice that you added the non-tax paying native american's to the %'s too.

The Other/Unknown category is quite interesting. Especially how Florida has the most at 600, is there any explanation for this category? Maybe they just skipped them in the census classification?

Edit: I see you mentioned it could be native americans. That would make sense.

Tomenable
04-05-2022, 02:25 AM
My proposed estimates of the Native American population in what is now the USA (without Canada):

Year - Native population / Colonial population

1600 - ca. 3 million / 1 thousand
1701 - 2.5 million / 271 thousand
1743 - 2.3 million / 1 million
1769 - 2.1 million / 2.1 million
1783 - 2 million / 3 million
1800 - 1.8 million / 5.4 million
1810 - 1.65 million / 7.3 million
1820 - 1.5 million / 9.5 million
1830 - 1.4 million / 13 million
1840 - 1.2 million / 17 million
1850 - 1 million / 23 million
1860 - 760 thousand / 31.5 million
1865 - 670 thousand / 35 million
1870 - 570 thousand / 38.5 million
1875 - 460 thousand / 44 million
1880 - 343323 (census) / 50 million

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Now just the Wild West (including California, excluding New Mexico):

Year - Native population / Colonial population

1820 - 1 million / 6 thousand
1830 - 950 thousand / 9 thousand
1840 - 850 thousand / 12 thousand
1845 - 780 thousand / 20 thousand
1850 - 700 thousand / 130 thousand
1855 - 600 thousand / 0.5 million
1860 - 500 thousand / 0.8 million
1865 - 430 thousand / 1.3 million
1870 - 365 thousand / 1.8 million
1875 - 300 thousand / 2.9 million
1880 - 232938 (census) / 4 million