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tipirneni
03-29-2022, 11:51 PM
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982221004231 sequenced some of the Catalhoyuk samples from the data n = 9 such co-buried individuals associated with Buildings 17, 50, and 114.



Sk.1885 (burial feature 84, Level South M, Middle period, Building 50): the primary flexed burial of a male child. He was 7 years ± 2yrs at death, excavated in 1995. This individual was interred directly above Sk.2033 (see below) in the southwest corner of B.50. Radiocarbon dating places this individual between 6905–6885 cal BCE (1%) or 6825–6635 cal BCE (92%) or 6625–6600 cal BCE (2%) (Table Z2).

Sk.2033 (burial feature 84, Level South M, Middle period, Building 50): the primary flexed burial of a male child 3 years ± 1yr at death, excavated in 1995. This individual was interred directly below Sk.1885 (see previous) in the southwest corner of B.50. Radiocarbon dating places this individual between 6690-6590 cal BCE (95%) (Table Z2).

Sk.2779.1 (burial feature 265, Level South M, Middle period, Building 50): the primary burial of a male neonate (0-2 months at death based on measurements of the basi-occipital bone), excavated in 1997. The burial was heavily disturbed by Mellaart’s earlier excavations in this building during the 1960s.

Sk.2842 (burial feature 274, Level South M, Middle period, Building 50): a disturbed primary burial of a female infant aged 18 months (±6 months) at death based on dental development. It was excavated in 1998 from Building 50, located in the South Area of the site. The body was placed in a small pit near the center of the main room and was partially disturbed by a later burial. Radiocarbon dating of the petrous bone places this individual between 6690-6505 cal BCE (95%) (Table Z2).

Sk.2779.1 (burial feature 265, Level South M, Middle period, Building 50): the primary burial of a male neonate (0-2 months at death based on measurements of the basi-occipital bone), excavated in 1997. The burial was heavily disturbed by Mellaart’s earlier excavations in this building during the 1960s.

Sk.2842 (burial feature 274, Level South M, Middle period, Building 50): a disturbed primary burial of a female infant aged 18 months (±6 months) at death based on dental development. It was excavated in 1998 from Building 50, located in the South Area of the site. The body was placed in a small pit near the center of the main room and was partially disturbed by a later burial. Radiocarbon dating of the petrous bone places this individual between 6690-6505 cal BCE (95%) (Table Z2).


2728 F.258 Çatalhöyük South M 50 6695-6505 (95%) Infant XX 0.08 K1a -
2842 F.274 Çatalhöyük South M 50 6690-6505 (95%) Child XX 0.09 K1a -
2017 F.96 Çatalhöyük South M 50 6815–6790 (2%) 6775–6595 (93%) Neonate XX 0.03 T2 -
1885 F.84 Çatalhöyük South M 50 6905–6885 (1%) 6825–6635 (92%) 6625–6600 (2%) Child XY 0.07 K1a G2a2a1
2033 F.84/86 Çatalhöyük South M 50 6690–6590 (95%) Child XY 0.01 H2a2a1d H3a1
2779 F.265 Çatalhöyük South M 50 - Infant XY 0.27 H2a2a C1a2

The other Haplogroups in the same burial were G2a2a1 and C1a2

tipirneni
03-30-2022, 02:15 PM
It is also pertinent to note that multiple H3 sub-clades are present among Kamma caste. The parts of Telugu shows close similarity to some parts of Hittite. Some of the Hittite phrases look as it is in the Telugu language used by Kammas. The name Kamma itself probably derived from the ancient goddess Kummanu cult and from previous palaic Kammama cult and continued as Elamite Kamul and Luwian Kamrusepa. The Bronze Age Kamboj group probably adopted from this early Anatolian farmer group god/goddess when it spread into Urals and further.

https://i.ibb.co/X4MkNYn/kammama.png
https://i.ibb.co/52ybfS8/kamul.png

https://m.psecn.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I000022VAn_a72Lw/fit=1000x750/88846C-5-Aslantepe-Hittite-Relief-Orthostat-Gods.jpg

tipirneni
03-30-2022, 03:06 PM
Muršili, after returning from his northwestern campaign simply states:
nu URU Ḫattuši arḫa uu̯anun ‘I came back to Ḫattuša’ (Annaals KBo V 8 IV 2)
I was probably not only one, because Puhvel goes even further and translates ‘came home to Ḫattuša’:

Hittite -> Nu URu Hattusi arha uuanun
Telugu -> Na URu Hattus ki tirigu vachanun

tipirneni
03-30-2022, 07:29 PM
Pp. 103-119: “A New Reading of the Middle Elamite Text Shun I 9,” by Jalil Bakhtiari

There are four complete or almost complete unprovenanced bricks and twenty-one brick fragments from the site of Toll-e Bard-e Karegar in Khuzestan belonging to the only Elamite inscription mentioning the god Kamul. All of them represent exemplars of the one and the same text (ShuN I 9), written in the name of the Elamite king Shutruk-Nahhunte I (ca. 1190–1155 BCE). The text describes a temple that the king had rebuilt and dedicated to the god Kamul. In this article, a new reading and translation of the last sentence of the text that is divided into four sections and compared with parallels in Old and Middle-Elamite texts, is suggested. In addition, the brick fragments TBK 16 and 28 are reread and classified and TBK 89, 114, 122, and 127 are published.
https://www.asor.org/news/2021/06/jcs73-toc/

tipirneni
03-30-2022, 11:48 PM
Alternately the Solar goddess and goddess of magic might have derived from some Paleolithic population from Siberia since we have instances of Arinna the Solar goddess matching the Finno-Ugric solar deities and some of the Amerind have solar deities like Unelanuhi. This probably happened prior to the Holocene and developed in these Caucausian Anatolian cline as the goddess Kammamma during the Mesolithic/Neolithic/Chalcolithic and spread into Urals/SC Asia etc...