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Palisto
09-06-2012, 05:13 AM
I analyzed all fully sequenced mtDNAs with the haplogroup H5a1:
http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2012/09/mtdna-haplogroup-h5a1.html
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Jaska
09-06-2012, 03:47 PM
There are no subgroups included, like H5a1e? (Northern Finland)
So what would you say about the migration of H5a1?

Eldon
09-06-2012, 08:52 PM
I am EF418607 (America) and have the 7691C mutation. I also found this mutation in a Coble sample from America. I am wondering how many samples have to show a particular mutation before a new sub-clade is formed?
Eldon

Rathna
09-06-2012, 09:18 PM
I am EF418607 (America) and have the 7691C mutation. I also found this mutation in a Coble sample from America. I am wondering how many samples have to show a particular mutation before a new sub-clade is formed?
Eldon
3 not closely related.

Palisto
09-06-2012, 09:36 PM
There are no subgroups included, like H5a1e? (Northern Finland)
So what would you say about the migration of H5a1?

H5a1e is included in the tree. Both samples from Finland belong to H1a1e [AY339431(Finland) Moilanen; AY339432(Finland) Moilanen].
The migration of H5a1e is not clear; it is an independent branch with no overlapping SNPs with other H5a1 individuals.

H5a1 itself is a subbranch of H5a, so to understand the initial migration of H5a1 we have to look at the "mother" branch H5a and the "sibling" branch "H5a2". Then, we can look into other related branches like H5b (the "uncle" branch) and H5 (the "grandfather" branch). I will do all of it in the next days.

Edit:
I updated my approach here:
http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2012/09/mtdna-haplogroup-h5_6.html
and here:
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?275-H5-analysis-of-fully-sequenced-mtDNA

Yggdrasil
10-19-2013, 08:25 AM
3 not closely related.

If you know you are not related within 350 years, is that "not closely related" in this context?

emmental
07-04-2014, 12:08 PM
I am H5a1j and can trace my maternal line to Netherlands, c1650.

GailT
07-04-2014, 01:32 PM
H5a1 itself is a subbranch of H5a, so to understand the initial migration of H5a1 we have to look at the "mother" branch H5a and the "sibling" branch "H5a2". Then, we can look into other related branches like H5b (the "uncle" branch) and H5 (the "grandfather" branch).

Or one could say the sister, aunt and grandmother branches. :)

kjjohnston
10-24-2014, 06:39 PM
I am H5a1j and can trace my maternal line to Netherlands, c1650.

My father is also H5a1j. His maternal ancestry is not far from the Netherlands in East Anglia, England but we can only trace it back to the early 1800s. I wonder if the 16209C marker is recent and found in a localized region.

smparry
01-26-2016, 08:19 PM
My marker is H5a1p, and I am finding it difficult to discover any information for this particular sub group. It is the "p" part that seems to be the problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

thetick
02-04-2016, 05:01 AM
For H5a1p below is all I could find.

Only 2 entries in GenBank -- 2 no origin identified
http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/h5a1p-q_genbank_sequences.htm

and 3 entries at H5 Project. They look like British names?
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mtDNA_H5?iframe=mtresults

Certainly more people need to TEST and SHARE their results for anymore details.

Chad Rohlfsen
08-17-2017, 02:38 AM
I'm H5a1. My maternal line goes to England.

Pat Benham
08-18-2017, 01:05 PM
FTDNA has me as full sequence H5a1. My mt line is located in Cheshire UK. There are only four zero difference matches shown with me. Two of them share a UK Derbyshire mt ancestor. The other two are one UK and one Finnish. This last is strange as it seems that because I share with so few we have a recent mutation. The suggests the Finnish match might have gained the same mutation independently.

mangumheel
08-28-2017, 03:01 PM
I have 2 H5a1 full sequence results (amongst cousins) in my various mitochondrial lines: one which traces back to England; the other to Germany.

gstockman
10-15-2017, 05:19 PM
I am H5a1--T152C!
My mother was born in Scotland in 1918.
Her maternal line was in Scotland at least as far back as 1800.

10-15-2017, 05:58 PM
My wife’s mtdna is H5a1, and she is from Central Poland.

JFWinstone
01-29-2018, 06:37 PM
23andme has mine as H5a1. James Lick and Wegene has it as H5a1g1. Furthest maternal line relative I've found so far is a Sarah Smith born abt 1761 in Dorset.