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Celtarion
07-06-2014, 08:26 PM
Here is the percentage of M4"67+ tested by Geno 2.0

2053

Dr_McNinja
07-07-2014, 09:53 PM
How are you M30? Do you have Indian ancestors that you know of?

Sein
07-07-2014, 10:12 PM
For what it's worth, there seems to be an appreciable amount of M30 in the Near East/North Africa (apparently, it's been found in Palestinians, Yemenis, Egyptians, and Tunisians. It's also found in Iran). At 23andMe, there is an Italian individual with M30, and a French individual with M30. At Geno 2.0, a separate Italian person had M30. I have no clue how M30 spread throughout the Near East, and even ended up in the British Isles, France, and Italy. I think there is even some M30 in China and Myanmar.

Celtarion
07-08-2014, 06:33 PM
How are you M30? Do you have Indian ancestors that you know of?

Hi, I have no Indian ancestors known.

Celtarion
07-08-2014, 06:58 PM
For what it's worth, there seems to be an appreciable amount of M30 in the Near East/North Africa (apparently, it's been found in Palestinians, Yemenis, Egyptians, and Tunisians. It's also found in Iran). At 23andMe, there is an Italian individual with M30, and a French individual with M30. At Geno 2.0, a separate Italian person had M30. I have no clue how M30 spread throughout the Near East, and even ended up in the British Isles, France, and Italy. I think there is even some M30 in China and Myanmar.

The french on 23andMe who is M30 is me. Not a formal conclusion of course, but M30 could have been a kind of traveller. My final haplogroup is M30-C16234T .

parasar
07-09-2014, 12:27 AM
Might have been part of an early dispersal such as this one:


Ancient DNA methodology was applied to analyse sequences extracted from freshly unearthed remains (teeth) of 4 individuals deeply deposited in slightly alkaline soil of the Tell Ashara (ancient Terqa) and Tell Masaikh (ancient Kar-Assurnasirpal) Syrian archaeological sites, both in the middle Euphrates valley. Dated to the period between 2.5 Kyrs BC and 0.5 Kyrs AD the studied individuals carried mtDNA haplotypes corresponding to the M4b1, M49 and/or M61 haplogroups, which are believed to have arisen in the area of the Indian subcontinent during the Upper Paleolithic and are absent in people living today in Syria. However, they are present in people inhabiting today’s Tibet, Himalayas, India and Pakistan. We anticipate that the analysed remains from Mesopotamia belonged to people with genetic affinity to the Indian subcontinent since the distribution of identified ancient haplotypes indicates solid link with populations from the region of South Asia-Tibet (Trans-Himalaya). They may have been descendants of migrants from much earlier times, spreading the clades of the macrohaplogroup M throughout Eurasia and founding regional Mesopotamian groups like that of Terqa
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0073682

Terqa had confirmed trade connection to SE Asia which most likely was via India.
Cloves in Puzurum's house. http://books.google.com/books?id=rhQxc4GW8soC&pg=PA54

palamede
07-09-2014, 06:25 PM
Might have been part of an early dispersal such as this one:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0073682

Terqa had confirmed trade connection to SE Asia which most likely was via India.
Cloves in Puzurum's house. http://books.google.com/books?id=rhQxc4GW8soC&pg=PA54

The first presence of Kassite kings was repaired at Terqa before they occupied Babylone. The original homeland of the Kassites is not well known,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Kassite_rulers
"Around the same time a king of the middle Euphrates kingdom called Ḫana, successor state of Mari,[4] bore the name Kaštiliašu, but apart from this name there is no evidence that the region was occupied by Kassites during this time, and he was succeeded by Šunuhru-Ammu, whose name is Amorite. Two seal impressions[i 3] found at Ḫana's capital Terqa[4][5] read, "[Gi]mil Ninkar[ak], son of Arši-a[ḫum], [se]rvant of Ila[ba], [and K]aštili[ašu]". Frayne speculates that Kaštiliašu may have been a Babylonian installed by Samsu-iluna after his defeat of Iadiḫ-abu and not a native ruler.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kassites
"They first appeared in the annals of history in the 18th century BC when they attacked Babylonia in the 9th year of the reign of Samsu-iluna (reigned ca. 1749–1712 BC), the son of Hammurabi. Samsu-iluna repelled them, as did Abi-Eshuh, but they subsequently gained control of Babylonia circa 1570 BC some 25 years after the fall of Babylon to the Hittites in ca. 1595 BC,"