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Little bit
09-08-2012, 11:16 AM
I was curious how accurate this tool is and any thoughts about my husband's results:
http://members.bex.net/jtcullen515/HaploTest.htm

His designation at 23andme is R1b1b2a1a2f (v2) and so far only 2 panels have come in at FTDNA. The 3rd panel is being rerun, and DF13 is positive. He is part of R-L21 Plus and with the 2 panels I noticed he had some uncommon results for DYS459 8-9 and DYS464 13-13-15-17. It appears his results are model for Irish cluster III:
http://www.irishtype3dna.org/index.php#irish3

Cullen's predictor results with 2 panels:
Haplogroups and probabilities are as follows:
R1b-IrishIII =>100%

A few questions:
-Any one else have this? My husband had lots of 12 marker matches but only 17 matches at 25 markers, all 2 step. How common is this group?
-The link says all Irish III's should test L226 to confirm and I see 3 of the 25 marker matches show L226 as their terminal snp. Any thoughts?

Finally, look at these 2 maps:

Map of Frawley name in Ireland:
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/th_Screenshot2012-09-08at61017AM.png (http://s953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/?action=view&current=Screenshot2012-09-08at61017AM.png)

Map of origins of Irish Type III:
http://www.irishtype3dna.org/origins.php

Edward Frawley Sr. always said his parents were from County Clare...appears to be true?

CelticGerman
09-13-2012, 08:03 PM
67 marker: R1b UB 57%, R1b 12%, R1b-North/South 12%, R1b South Irish 6%, R1b S29 Frisian2 5%, R1b-S28 4%, R1b Leinster 3%.

Try to understand. I'm R1b U152 Z36 and German.

Little bit
09-14-2012, 12:31 PM
Ok, done deal. Third panel came in: still 100% match for Irish III and only 1 match at 37 markers: R1b1a2a1a1b4h L226. Looks like I'll order the L226 to confirm and that's it.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/th_Screenshot2012-09-14at72419AM.png (http://s953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/?action=view&current=Screenshot2012-09-14at72419AM.png)

Here he is, Frawley patriarch from County Clare, Ireland:

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/th_Frawleypatriarch.jpg (http://s953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/?action=view&current=Frawleypatriarch.jpg)

Little bit
10-25-2012, 01:51 PM
Finally got results for L226...that felt like it took forever! It's confirmed:

Your Haplogroup Tests Taken
R1b1a2a1a1b4h L226+ DF13+

I would recommend anyone to plug your STR's into this tool to see what your predictions are. Just might save you a lot of money in testing, like it did for me. I got a haplogroup assignment with just 37 markers and 2 SNP tests by using the 100% Irish III prediction and skipping to the terminal snp.

jowston
10-25-2012, 11:32 PM
His I1 subclade predictor has been pretty accurate.

Jim

Dibran
02-12-2017, 11:27 PM
Is there a version of this calculator for 23andme raw data?

deadly77
02-13-2017, 02:28 AM
Is there a version of this calculator for 23andme raw data?

For the Cullen predictor, you need to put in Y-STR values. 23andme doesn't test Y-STR markers - they test a small amount of Y-SNPs.

RobertCasey
02-13-2017, 01:50 PM
Finally got results for L226...that felt like it took forever! It's confirmed:

Your Haplogroup Tests Taken
R1b1a2a1a1b4h L226+ DF13+

I would recommend anyone to plug your STR's into this tool to see what your predictions are. Just might save you a lot of money in testing, like it did for me. I got a haplogroup assignment with just 37 markers and 2 SNP tests by using the 100% Irish III prediction and skipping to the terminal snp.

Since you are now confirmed to be L226 positive, I recommend the following:

1) I highly recommend upgrading to 67 markers as charting (prediction at a lower level) requires 67 markers. Prediction of L226 can be done at 37 markers which is not real common but L226 can be predicted at 37 markers since it has some pretty unique mutations in the first 37 markers. I currently have over 75 % of L226 charted at the 67 marker resolution:

http://www.rcasey.net/DNA/R_L226/Haplotrees/L226_Home.pdf

2) After you order the 67 upgrade, you should then order the very leading edge L226 SNP Pack for $120. It includes 90 % of the known 43 L226 branches as well as including 100 additional private and equivalent YSNPs. After 50 L226 SNP packs, charting of L226 grew from 40 % to 75 % since we doubled the percentage of well tested submissions from 10 % to 20 %. This charting requires 67 markers for accuracy since I am now doing prediction below L226 which has much smaller signature where 37 markers are not enough. Here are the current branches under L226:

http://www.rcasey.net/DNA/R_L226/Haplotrees/L226_Tree.pdf

3) Since you have already tested positive for L226, I suggest that you join L226 haplogroup project
(hit the "Join" button on the far right top of the screen):

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-l226-project/about/background

4) If you have 67 markers, your L226 status could be confirmed by my L21 SNP predictor tool:

http://www.rcasey.net/DNA/R-L21_SNP_Predictor_Intro.html

For L226 and M222 (and probably many others), it is no longer necessary to confirm your L21 status as
these two YSNPs are very genetically isolated from other L21 testers. There is overlap in the signature
of L226 in the R1a haplogroup - but the genetic distance is huge at 30 and 40.

Welcome to L226 - your friendly L226 co-admin.

LarryMc
01-21-2018, 01:03 PM
Ok, done deal. Third panel came in: still 100% match for Irish III and only 1 match at 37 markers: R1b1a2a1a1b4h L226. Looks like I'll order the L226 to confirm and that's it.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/th_Screenshot2012-09-14at72419AM.png (http://s953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/?action=view&current=Screenshot2012-09-14at72419AM.png)

Here he is, Frawley patriarch from County Clare, Ireland:

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/th_Frawleypatriarch.jpg (http://s953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/LB234/?action=view&current=Frawleypatriarch.jpg)
William Frawley aka Fred Mertz on "I love Lucy"... Too much resemblance for there not to be a connection!