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vettor
08-17-2014, 02:20 AM
I do not know what this is but here are my 23andme results
I did not bother if result was under 4%

MDLP Ancient Roots K18 Oracle results:
MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 25.91
2 Mediterranean 22.38
3 East_European 20.58
4 Caucasian 12.44
5 Afroasiatic 5.67

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Piedmont 10.27
2 Toscani 12.79
3 North_Italian 13.24
4 Occitan 13.5

Dr_McNinja
08-17-2014, 03:29 AM
My 23andMe and FTDNA raw data results. The Oracle is interesting. I googled Tiwari and they're some kind of North Indian/Nepal Hindu Brahmin group...


23andMe

Population
Caucasian 11.47%
Melano-Austronesian 0.85%
Volga-Uralic 3.64%
East_Siberian 2.03%
West_Siberian 0.71%
South_Central_Asian 26.99%
South_Indian 35.28%
North_West_European 2.73%
Sami-Finnic 1.98%
South_East_Asian -
Archaic_African 0.93%
Mediterranean -
Arctic 1.05%
Afroasiatic -
East_European 6.33%
Roma 4.39%
East_African -
Amerindian 1.61%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tiwari 6.09
2 Pakistani 10.59
3 Kshatriya 11.44
4 Vaish 12
5 Burusho 12.83
6 TN_Brahmin 13.65
7 Brahmins_UP 13.97
8 Brahmins_Tamil 14.06
9 Pathan 14.71
10 Mumbai_Jews 15.43
11 Meghawal 16.3
12 Srivastava 16.91
13 Sindhi 17.18
14 AP_Brahmin 17.33
15 Nepalese 17.41
16 Tharus 17.9
17 Marwadi-Middle-caste 19.87
18 Dharkars 20.64
19 Lambadi 21.24
20 Muslim 21.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.7% Tiwari + 7.3% Kuban_cossack @ 3.39
2 92.4% Tiwari + 7.6% Ukrainian @ 3.41
3 91.8% Tiwari + 8.2% Mordovians @ 3.41
4 92.4% Tiwari + 7.6% South-Russian @ 3.42
5 92.6% Tiwari + 7.4% Center-Russian @ 3.42
6 92.9% Tiwari + 7.1% East-Belarusian @ 3.44
7 92.4% Tiwari + 7.6% Mixed_East_Slav @ 3.44
8 92.8% Tiwari + 7.2% Belarusian @ 3.44
9 93% Tiwari + 7% Lithuanian @ 3.45
10 93.2% Tiwari + 6.8% Mixed_Slav @ 3.47
11 92.5% Tiwari + 7.5% Polish @ 3.48
12 92.6% Tiwari + 7.4% Pole @ 3.48
13 92.7% Tiwari + 7.3% West-Belarusian @ 3.48
14 92.3% Tiwari + 7.7% Ukranians @ 3.48
15 92.3% Tiwari + 7.7% Don_cossack @ 3.49
16 93.4% Tiwari + 6.6% Lithuanians @ 3.5
17 92% Tiwari + 8% Mordovian @ 3.5
18 92.8% Tiwari + 7.2% Estonians @ 3.52
19 93.1% Tiwari + 6.9% Latvian @ 3.53
20 90.1% Tiwari + 9.9% Tatar_Lithuanian @ 3.54

FTDNA

Population
Caucasian 11.43%
Melano-Austronesian 0.86%
Volga-Uralic 3.51%
East_Siberian 1.95%
West_Siberian 0.72%
South_Central_Asian 26.96%
South_Indian 35.27%
North_West_European 2.83%
Sami-Finnic 1.87%
South_East_Asian -
Archaic_African 1.05%
Mediterranean -
Arctic 1.13%
Afroasiatic 0.08%
East_European 6.36%
Roma 4.27%
East_African -
Amerindian 1.71%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tiwari 6.13
2 Pakistani 10.6
3 Kshatriya 11.49
4 Vaish 11.97
5 Burusho 12.85
6 TN_Brahmin 13.66
7 Brahmins_UP 13.98
8 Brahmins_Tamil 14.09
9 Pathan 14.71
10 Mumbai_Jews 15.39
11 Meghawal 16.29
12 Srivastava 16.91
13 Sindhi 17.19
14 AP_Brahmin 17.31
15 Nepalese 17.4
16 Tharus 17.9
17 Marwadi-Middle-caste 19.85
18 Dharkars 20.64
19 Lambadi 21.23
20 Muslim 21.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.7% Tiwari + 7.3% Kuban_cossack @ 3.38
2 92.3% Tiwari + 7.7% Ukrainian @ 3.41
3 92.4% Tiwari + 7.6% South-Russian @ 3.43
4 92.5% Tiwari + 7.5% Center-Russian @ 3.43
5 91.8% Tiwari + 8.2% Mordovians @ 3.43
6 92.9% Tiwari + 7.1% East-Belarusian @ 3.44
7 92.7% Tiwari + 7.3% Belarusian @ 3.44
8 92.3% Tiwari + 7.7% Mixed_East_Slav @ 3.44
9 92.9% Tiwari + 7.1% Lithuanian @ 3.45
10 93.2% Tiwari + 6.8% Mixed_Slav @ 3.47
11 92.4% Tiwari + 7.6% Polish @ 3.48
12 92.6% Tiwari + 7.4% Pole @ 3.48
13 92.6% Tiwari + 7.4% West-Belarusian @ 3.48
14 92.2% Tiwari + 7.8% Ukranians @ 3.48
15 92.2% Tiwari + 7.8% Don_cossack @ 3.49
16 93.3% Tiwari + 6.7% Lithuanians @ 3.5
17 92% Tiwari + 8% Mordovian @ 3.52
18 93% Tiwari + 7% Latvian @ 3.52
19 92.7% Tiwari + 7.3% Estonians @ 3.53
20 90.1% Tiwari + 9.9% Tatar_Lithuanian @ 3.58

Táltos
08-17-2014, 03:33 AM
I do not know what this is but here are my 23andme results
I did not bother if result was under 4%

MDLP Ancient Roots K18 Oracle results:
MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 25.91
2 Mediterranean 22.38
3 East_European 20.58
4 Caucasian 12.44
5 Afroasiatic 5.67

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Piedmont 10.27
2 Toscani 12.79
3 North_Italian 13.24
4 Occitan 13.5

Thanks vettor, I didn't know this was on Gedmatch. Here is mine.

1 East_European 36.09
2 North_West_European 19.26
3 Mediterranean 16.83
4 Caucasian 9.61
5 Volga-Uralic 3.95
6 South_Central_Asian 3.6
7 Sami-Finnic 3.04
8 Roma 1.91
9 Afroasiatic 1.6
10 East_African 0.86
11 Melano-Austronesian 0.76
12 Arctic 0.66
13 South_Indian 0.65
14 Amerindian 0.45
15 Archaic_African 0.38
16 South_East_Asian 0.23
17 West_Siberian 0.13


1 Hungarians 4.8
2 Slovenian 7.76
3 Bosnian 8.01
4 Croat 8.03
5 Austrian 8.44
6 Croat_BH 8.92
7 Serb_BH 9.04
8 Croatian 9.08
9 Serb_Serbia 9.9
10 German 10.15
11 Montenegrian 10.18
12 Czech 10.39
13 Macedonian 12.37
14 Bulgarians 12.47
15 Mixed_CEU 12.82
16 Slovak 13.01
17 Russian_South 13.83
18 Mixed_European 14.05
19 South-German 14.71
20 Gagauz 15.4


1 66% German + 34% Kosovar @ 2.51
2 81.4% Croat + 18.6% Scottish_Argyll @ 2.7
3 50.4% Russian_South + 49.6% Mixed_European @ 2.83
4 67.7% German + 32.3% Greek @ 2.83
5 71.6% German + 28.4% Central-Greek @ 2.85
6 63% Austrian + 37% Russian_South @ 2.9
7 76.3% Croat + 23.7% N._European @ 2.94
8 69.6% Serb_Serbia + 30.4% Swede @ 2.94
9 59.2% Serb_Serbia + 40.8% Mixed_European @ 2.95
10 92.1% Hungarians + 7.9% Turkish_Adana @ 2.96
11 76.4% Bosnian + 23.6% N._European @ 2.96
12 65.9% Croat + 34.1% South-German @ 3
13 57.2% Russian_South + 42.8% North_German @ 3
14 66.4% Mixed_CEU + 33.6% Central-Greek @ 3
15 80.6% Croat + 19.4% British_Kent @ 3.02
16 62.1% Mixed_CEU + 37.9% Greek @ 3.02
17 77.5% Croat + 22.5% Belgian @ 3.04
18 78.5% German + 21.5% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 3.06
19 76.7% German + 23.3% Romanian_Jews @ 3.09
20 81.7% Bosnian + 18.3% Scottish_Argyll @ 3.1

Dr_McNinja
08-17-2014, 03:45 AM
My brother-in-law, HRP0402, a Pahari Jatt:


Population
Caucasian 11.79%
Melano-Austronesian 0.61%
Volga-Uralic 3.19%
East_Siberian -
West_Siberian 2.22%
South_Central_Asian 34.10%
South_Indian 29.46%
North_West_European 5.36%
Sami-Finnic -
South_East_Asian -
Archaic_African 0.55%
Mediterranean 2.64%
Arctic 2.87%
Afroasiatic -
East_European 3.58%
Roma 2.79%
East_African 0.62%
Amerindian 0.22%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan 7.32
2 Burusho 8.61
3 Pakistani 9.03
4 Tiwari 9.91
5 Sindhi 10.07
6 Mumbai_Jews 15.5
7 Vaish 16.42
8 Kshatriya 16.62
9 Kalash 16.72
10 AP_Brahmin 17.33
11 Pashtun 17.43
12 Brahmins_Tamil 17.58
13 TN_Brahmin 17.84
14 Brahmins_UP 18.59
15 Meghawal 19.54
16 Nepalese 19.64
17 Tharus 22.77
18 Tadjik 22.84
19 Srivastava 22.99
20 Uzbek 23.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.7% Pathan + 12.3% Madiga @ 3.43
2 86.2% Pathan + 13.8% Bhil @ 3.45
3 88.1% Pathan + 11.9% Hallaki @ 3.47
4 87.6% Pathan + 12.4% TN_Dalit @ 3.5
5 87% Pathan + 13% Hakkipikki @ 3.54
6 87.8% Pathan + 12.2% Kurumba @ 3.58
7 83.4% Pathan + 16.6% Lodi @ 3.59
8 91.4% Pathan + 8.6% Pulliyar @ 3.62
9 83.6% Pathan + 16.4% Scheduled_Caste_UP @ 3.63
10 86.8% Pathan + 13.2% Chamar @ 3.64
11 84.9% Pathan + 15.1% Kol @ 3.64
12 86.5% Pathan + 13.5% Sakilli @ 3.64
13 90.1% Pathan + 9.9% Malayan @ 3.65
14 84.2% Pathan + 15.8% Dusadh @ 3.66
15 85.3% Pathan + 14.7% Kamsali @ 3.69
16 91% Pathan + 9% Paniya @ 3.7
17 87.1% Pathan + 12.9% AP_Mala @ 3.7
18 84% Pathan + 16% Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 3.7
19 80.2% Pathan + 19.8% Dharkars @ 3.7
20 88.6% Pathan + 11.4% Mala @ 3.7

HRP0370, Afghan Pashtun:


Population
Caucasian 19.50%
Melano-Austronesian -
Volga-Uralic 3.31%
East_Siberian 1.25%
West_Siberian 2.92%
South_Central_Asian 27.38%
South_Indian 14.69%
North_West_European 3.33%
Sami-Finnic 1.75%
South_East_Asian 0.41%
Archaic_African 0.37%
Mediterranean 7.74%
Arctic 1.01%
Afroasiatic 3.88%
East_European 9.61%
Roma 1.77%
East_African 0.70%
Amerindian 0.38%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pashtun 10.01
2 Tajiks 10.85
3 Tadjik 11.49
4 Uzbek 14.55
5 Pathan 14.56
6 Turkmens 16.34
7 Burusho 17.32
8 Kalash 17.96
9 Iranians 20.88
10 Kurd 22.41
11 Azeri 22.42
12 Mumbai_Jews 22.68
13 Sindhi 22.89
14 Pakistani 23.32
15 Turkmen 23.46
16 Uzbekistan_Jew 23.81
17 Kurds 23.99
18 Tiwari 24.56
19 Azeri_Dagestan 25.12
20 Uzbeks 25.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Pathan + 32.8% Crimean_Tatar @ 3.8
2 68.3% Pathan + 31.7% Azov_Greek @ 4.42
3 62.4% Kalash + 37.6% Crimean_Tatar @ 4.97
4 71.9% Pathan + 28.1% Mixed_East_European @ 5.01
5 56.2% Sindhi + 43.8% Crimean_Tatar @ 5.4
6 66.7% Pathan + 33.3% Turks @ 5.4
7 67.6% Pathan + 32.4% Turkish_Aydin @ 5.42
8 61.1% Sindhi + 38.9% Mixed_East_European @ 5.59
9 63.6% Kalash + 36.4% Azov_Greek @ 5.8
10 68.8% Kalash + 31.2% South_Greek @ 5.84
11 70.7% Tajiks + 29.3% Mumbai_Jews @ 5.97
12 81.8% Pashtun + 18.2% Gagauz @ 6.09
13 72.4% Pathan + 27.6% North_Greek @ 6.13
14 82.8% Pashtun + 17.2% Russian_South @ 6.18
15 81.5% Pashtun + 18.5% North_Greek @ 6.21
16 67.3% Kalash + 32.7% North_Greek @ 6.22
17 82.7% Pashtun + 17.3% South_Greek @ 6.23
18 82.7% Pashtun + 17.3% Macedonian @ 6.24
19 82.7% Pashtun + 17.3% Bulgarians @ 6.29
20 82.2% Pashtun + 17.8% Cretan @ 6.3

My mother:


Population
Caucasian 10.45%
Melano-Austronesian 0.41%
Volga-Uralic 3.83%
East_Siberian 1.38%
West_Siberian 1.45%
South_Central_Asian 30.02%
South_Indian 33.08%
North_West_European 1.41%
Sami-Finnic 0.72%
South_East_Asian -
Archaic_African 0.69%
Mediterranean 0.99%
Arctic -
Afroasiatic 0.91%
East_European 7.10%
Roma 5.21%
East_African -
Amerindian 2.35%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tiwari 6.9
2 Pakistani 8.59
3 Burusho 11.47
4 Pathan 12.07
5 Kshatriya 12.62
6 Vaish 13.43
7 Sindhi 14.3
8 TN_Brahmin 14.58
9 Brahmins_Tamil 14.78
10 Brahmins_UP 15.05
11 Mumbai_Jews 15.05
12 AP_Brahmin 16.68
13 Meghawal 17.11
14 Nepalese 17.46
15 Srivastava 18.25
16 Tharus 19.3
17 Marwadi-Middle-caste 20.92
18 Pashtun 21.05
19 Kalash 21.09
20 Dharkars 22.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.8% Tiwari + 8.2% East-Belarusian @ 3.75
2 91.9% Tiwari + 8.1% Hungarian @ 3.83
3 91.4% Tiwari + 8.6% Mixed_East_Slav @ 3.93
4 92.5% Tiwari + 7.5% Lithuanians @ 3.94
5 92.4% Tiwari + 7.6% Mixed_Slav @ 3.96
6 91.5% Tiwari + 8.5% South-Russian @ 3.97
7 91.9% Tiwari + 8.1% Belarusian @ 3.98
8 91.7% Tiwari + 8.3% West-Belarusian @ 3.98
9 91.9% Tiwari + 8.1% Kuban_cossack @ 4.01
10 91.3% Tiwari + 8.7% Ukranians @ 4.02
11 91.7% Tiwari + 8.3% Center-Russian @ 4.02
12 92.2% Tiwari + 7.8% Lithuanian @ 4.04
13 91.7% Tiwari + 8.3% Pole @ 4.05
14 91.6% Tiwari + 8.4% Ukrainian @ 4.07
15 91% Tiwari + 9% Mordovians @ 4.1
16 91.4% Tiwari + 8.6% Don_cossack @ 4.11
17 91.1% Tiwari + 8.9% Mordovian @ 4.13
18 91.7% Tiwari + 8.3% Polish @ 4.13
19 92.3% Tiwari + 7.7% Latvian @ 4.15
20 89.1% Tiwari + 10.9% Tatar_Lithuanian @ 4.18

My mother's mother:


Population
Caucasian 12.04%
Melano-Austronesian 0.39%
Volga-Uralic 4.88%
East_Siberian -
West_Siberian 1.66%
South_Central_Asian 29.63%
South_Indian 32.09%
North_West_European 1.53%
Sami-Finnic -
South_East_Asian 1.66%
Archaic_African 0.90%
Mediterranean 1.16%
Arctic 0.53%
Afroasiatic 0.66%
East_European 6.66%
Roma 4.81%
East_African -
Amerindian 1.40%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tiwari 7.53
2 Pakistani 9.08
3 Burusho 10.18
4 Pathan 11.22
5 Kshatriya 13.83
6 Sindhi 14.4
7 Vaish 14.63
8 Mumbai_Jews 15.11
9 TN_Brahmin 15.89
10 Brahmins_Tamil 16
11 Brahmins_UP 16.23
12 Nepalese 16.61
13 AP_Brahmin 17.68
14 Meghawal 18.34
15 Pashtun 19.5
16 Srivastava 19.57
17 Kalash 20.17
18 Tharus 20.27
19 Marwadi-Middle-caste 22.07
20 Dharkars 23.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% Pashtun + 49.9% Srivastava @ 3.75
2 87.9% Tiwari + 12.1% Tatar_Lithuanian @ 4.45
3 65.8% Kshatriya + 34.2% Tajiks @ 4.5
4 60.4% Pashtun + 39.6% Lodi @ 4.55
5 56.1% Srivastava + 43.9% Tadjik @ 4.55
6 57% Srivastava + 43% Tajiks @ 4.55
7 80.6% Pathan + 19.4% Chenchu @ 4.57
8 83.2% Pathan + 16.8% Santhal @ 4.59
9 54.8% Pashtun + 45.2% Dharkars @ 4.64
10 91.7% Tiwari + 8.3% East-Belarusian @ 4.66
11 91% Tiwari + 9% Mixed_East_Slav @ 4.68
12 90.5% Tiwari + 9.5% Mordovians @ 4.69
13 91.2% Tiwari + 8.8% South-Russian @ 4.7
14 59.3% Kshatriya + 40.7% Pashtun @ 4.7
15 91.1% Tiwari + 8.9% Ukrainian @ 4.7
16 85.5% Pathan + 14.5% Paniya @ 4.71
17 90.6% Tiwari + 9.4% Mordovian @ 4.72
18 90.9% Tiwari + 9.1% Ukranians @ 4.72
19 91.6% Tiwari + 8.4% Kuban_cossack @ 4.74
20 91.4% Tiwari + 8.6% West-Belarusian @ 4.76

My father:


Population
Caucasian 11.07%
Melano-Austronesian 1.07%
Volga-Uralic 1.49%
East_Siberian -
West_Siberian 4.44%
South_Central_Asian 26.73%
South_Indian 35.44%
North_West_European 3.17%
Sami-Finnic 2.53%
South_East_Asian -
Archaic_African 0.72%
Mediterranean 0.68%
Arctic 0.58%
Afroasiatic 0.89%
East_European 5.54%
Roma 4.42%
East_African -
Amerindian 1.24%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tiwari 6.91
2 Pakistani 10.37
3 Vaish 11.57
4 Kshatriya 12
5 TN_Brahmin 12.98
6 Burusho 13.66
7 Brahmins_Tamil 14.15
8 Brahmins_UP 14.17
9 Mumbai_Jews 14.74
10 Pathan 15.03
11 Meghawal 16.25
12 Srivastava 17.35
13 Nepalese 17.36
14 AP_Brahmin 17.48
15 Sindhi 17.48
16 Tharus 17.94
17 Marwadi-Middle-caste 19.97
18 Dharkars 20.49
19 Lambadi 21.32
20 Muslim 21.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.4% TN_Brahmin + 21.6% Lezgin @ 4.5
2 78.9% TN_Brahmin + 21.1% Tabassaran @ 4.57
3 79.5% TN_Brahmin + 20.5% Stalskoe @ 4.58
4 79.6% TN_Brahmin + 20.4% Avar @ 4.72
5 79.3% TN_Brahmin + 20.7% Lezgins @ 4.75
6 79.9% TN_Brahmin + 20.1% Lak @ 4.77
7 70.2% TN_Brahmin + 29.8% Tajiks @ 4.95
8 93.2% Tiwari + 6.8% Kuban_cossack @ 5.01
9 92.1% Tiwari + 7.9% Slovak @ 5.03
10 92.7% Tiwari + 7.3% Ukranians @ 5.06
11 91.8% Tiwari + 8.2% Bosnian @ 5.06
12 93% Tiwari + 7% Polish @ 5.07
13 93.4% Tiwari + 6.6% East-Belarusian @ 5.08
14 92.9% Tiwari + 7.1% Sorbs @ 5.08
15 79.8% TN_Brahmin + 20.2% Kumyks @ 5.08
16 79% TN_Brahmin + 21% Nogais @ 5.08
17 93.3% Tiwari + 6.7% Belarusian @ 5.08
18 92.8% Tiwari + 7.2% Don_cossack @ 5.08
19 92.9% Tiwari + 7.1% Ukrainian @ 5.09
20 80.6% Vaish + 19.4% Azeri_Dagestan @ 5.09

Táltos
08-17-2014, 03:53 AM
Here is with my 23andme result. I'll just list the population that shows some minor differences in percentages. Otherwise they look pretty similar in oracle to my FTDNA one.

1 East_European 36.91
2 North_West_European 18.94
3 Mediterranean 16.86
4 Caucasian 9.66
5 Volga-Uralic 4.06
6 South_Central_Asian 3.51
7 Sami-Finnic 2.63
8 Roma 1.89
9 Afroasiatic 1.7
10 East_African 1.13
11 South_Indian 0.65
12 South_East_Asian 0.54
13 Melano-Austronesian 0.52
14 Amerindian 0.5
15 Arctic 0.37
16 West_Siberian 0.13
17 Archaic_African 0.01

EDIT-Oh darn, I just tried to run my Mom's. Everyone must be on now, I'm getting the error message.

Táltos
08-17-2014, 04:07 AM
Okay now it worked for my Mom.

1 North_West_European 24.83
2 Mediterranean 22.13
3 East_European 18.43
4 Caucasian 13.32
5 South_Central_Asian 5.93
6 Afroasiatic 5.67
7 Sami-Finnic 2.59
8 Roma 2.44
9 Volga-Uralic 1.67
10 West_Siberian 0.76
11 South_East_Asian 0.7
12 South_Indian 0.68
13 East_African 0.37
14 Archaic_African 0.36
15 Melano-Austronesian 0.13
16 Arctic 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Piedmont 9.94
2 Toscani 11.84
3 Occitan 13.15
4 North_Italian 13.51
5 Kosovar 13.72
6 Greek 13.84
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.89
8 South_Greek 15.19
9 Central-Greek 15.33
10 Corsican 16.12
11 Spanish_Extremadura 16.2
12 South-German 16.41
13 Austrian 16.8
14 North_Greek 16.89
15 Sicilian 17.09
16 Portugese 17.6
17 Montenegrian 17.72
18 Macedonian 17.74
19 Bulgarians 17.8
20 Gagauz 17.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.8% Belgian + 47.2% Cretan @ 2.4
2 51.4% Sephardic_Jews + 48.6% Swede @ 2.54
3 55.2% N._European + 44.8% Cretan @ 2.62
4 64.3% North_Greek + 35.7% Orcadian @ 2.67
5 61.6% North_Greek + 38.4% Cornish @ 2.68
6 59.4% North_Greek + 40.6% Welsh @ 2.68
7 56.9% North_Greek + 43.1% Belgian @ 2.7
8 61.5% Sicilian + 38.5% Swede @ 2.77
9 58.7% Sicilian + 41.3% North_German @ 2.91
10 66.8% North_Greek + 33.2% Norwegian @ 2.91
11 60.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 39.2% Mixed_European @ 2.91
12 50.3% Welsh + 49.7% Cretan @ 2.92
13 50.9% Cretan + 49.1% CEU @ 2.94
14 51% South-German + 49% Sicilian @ 2.97
15 61.2% South-German + 38.8% Sephardic_Jews @ 2.98
16 55.6% Sicilian + 44.4% Mixed_European @ 3.01
17 60.5% North_Greek + 39.5% CEU @ 3.02
18 54.6% North_Greek + 45.4% N._European @ 3.16
19 66.9% North_Greek + 33.1% British @ 3.18
20 55% Italian_Abruzzo + 45% Austrian @ 3.19

And her 4 oracle, I forgot to copy mine.
1 Corsican + Jew_Tat + N._European + Slovenian @ 1.456243
2 Corsican + Czech + French + Jew_Tat @ 1.499300
3 Central-Greek + French + Swede + Syrian_Jew @ 1.569556
4 French + Greek + Swede + Syrian_Jew @ 1.607801
5 Cretan + Sephardic_Jews + Swede + Welsh @ 1.626079
6 Belgian + Jew_Tat + Serb_Serbia + Spaniards @ 1.631359
7 French + Jew_Tat + Mixed_CEU + North_Italian @ 1.645730
8 Belgian + French + Gagauz + Syrian_Jew @ 1.646355
9 Jew_Tat + Macedonian + North_German + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.666701
10 Belgian + Corsican + Jew_Tat + Slovenian @ 1.683732
11 Corsican + Hungarians + Jew_Tat + N._European @ 1.693728
12 Bosnian + Jew_Tat + N._European + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.697783
13 French + Greek + Swedish + Syrian_Jew @ 1.700573
14 Cornish + Greek + South-German + Syrian_Jew @ 1.727662
15 Ashkenazy_Jews + Greek-Islands + Swede + Welsh @ 1.730372
16 British_Kent + Druze + Kosovar + South-German @ 1.735710
17 Bosnian + Jew_Tat + N._European + Spaniards @ 1.747272
18 Cornish + Kosovar + South-German + Syrian_Jew @ 1.756422
19 Gagauz + Iraqi_Jews + Spanish_Cataluna + Swede @ 1.764172
20 Belgian + Cretan + Sephardic_Jews + Swede @ 1.784897

Sapporo
08-17-2014, 04:36 AM
Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 32.82
2 South_Indian 28.75
3 Caucasian 11.22
4 Volga-Uralic 5.83
5 East_European 4.9
6 Roma 3.29
7 North_West_European 2.67
8 Sami-Finnic 2.59
9 Mediterranean 1.98
10 Amerindian 1.7
11 West_Siberian 1.26
12 Afroasiatic 1.07
13 Arctic 0.96
14 East_Siberian 0.87
15 East_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan 7.24
2 Burusho 7.88
3 Tiwari 9.01
4 Pakistani 9.14
5 Sindhi 10.62
6 Mumbai_Jews 15.67
7 Kshatriya 16.01
8 Kalash 16.41
9 Pashtun 16.62
10 Vaish 16.71
11 Brahmins_Tamil 18.04
12 AP_Brahmin 18.09
13 TN_Brahmin 18.22
14 Brahmins_UP 18.4
15 Nepalese 18.82
16 Meghawal 20.01
17 Tadjik 22.16
18 Uzbek 22.48
19 Srivastava 22.62
20 Tharus 22.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.7% Pathan + 29.3% Kshatriya @ 3.2
2 56.5% Pathan + 43.5% Tiwari @ 3.23
3 51% Kshatriya + 49% Pashtun @ 3.37
4 87.9% Pathan + 12.1% Chenchu @ 3.4
5 52.6% Pashtun + 47.4% Brahmins_UP @ 3.46
6 81% Pathan + 19% Muslim @ 3.47
7 74% Pathan + 26% Brahmins_UP @ 3.49
8 91.5% Pathan + 8.5% Pulliyar @ 3.55
9 90.1% Pathan + 9.9% Malayan @ 3.55
10 78% Pathan + 22% Srivastava @ 3.57
11 88% Pathan + 12% Kurumba @ 3.58
12 90.7% Pathan + 9.3% Irula @ 3.58
13 91% Pathan + 9% Paniya @ 3.6
14 85.3% Pathan + 14.7% Tharu @ 3.6
15 88.7% Pathan + 11.3% Mala @ 3.63
16 88.7% Pathan + 11.3% Nihali @ 3.64
17 88.5% Pathan + 11.5% Hallaki @ 3.64
18 52.4% Pashtun + 47.6% TN_Brahmin @ 3.66
19 87.4% Pathan + 12.6% Hakkipikki @ 3.69
20 88% Pathan + 12% TN_Dalit @ 3.71

ZephyrousMandaru
08-17-2014, 05:01 AM
MDLP Ancient Roots K18

Population
Caucasian 31.61%
Melano-Austronesian 0.64%
Volga-Uralic 0.21%
East_Siberian 0.63%
West_Siberian 1.36%
South_Central_Asian 13.43%
South_Indian 0.32%
North_West_European 4.74%
Sami-Finnic -
South_East_Asian -
Archaic_African -
Mediterranean 27.77%
Arctic -
Afroasiatic 15.33%
East_European -
Roma 3.08%
East_African 0.86%
Amerindian -

Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Tat 6.1
2 Uzbekistani_Jews 7.24
3 Turks 9.9
4 Kurd_Jew 10.08
5 Iran_Jew 10.19
6 Armenian_Yerevan 10.47
7 Iraqi_Jews 10.96
8 Azeri 11.48
9 Kurds 11.86
10 Syrians 12.7
11 Uzbekistan_Jew 12.71
12 Iraki 13.07
13 Iranians 14.31
14 Cypriots 14.35
15 Syrian_Jew 14.36
16 Kurd 14.36
17 Turkish_Kayseri 15.3
18 Greek-Islands 16.57
19 Druze 17.25
20 Azov_Greek 17.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.7% Iraqi_Jews + 27.3% Cirkassian @ 4.2
2 60.5% Samaritians + 39.5% Urkarah @ 4.3
3 77.2% Iraqi_Jews + 22.8% Chechens @ 4.48
4 76.1% Iraqi_Jews + 23.9% Balkars @ 4.51
5 88.3% Jew_Tat + 11.7% Stalskoe @ 4.52
6 56.5% Armenian_Yerevan + 43.5% Iraki @ 4.57
7 55.7% Armenian_Yerevan + 44.3% Syrians @ 4.58
8 87.3% Jew_Tat + 12.7% Cirkassian @ 4.69
9 75.8% Iraqi_Jews + 24.2% Stalskoe @ 4.73
10 69.3% Jew_Tat + 30.7% Turks @ 4.74
11 76.9% Iraqi_Jews + 23.1% Adygei @ 4.76
12 61.5% Uzbekistani_Jews + 38.5% Turks @ 4.79
13 94% Jew_Tat + 6% British @ 4.79
14 76.3% Armenian_Yerevan + 23.7% Yemenese @ 4.79
15 78.1% Iraqi_Jews + 21.9% Ossetian @ 4.8
16 90% Jew_Tat + 10% Chechens @ 4.82
17 93.5% Jew_Tat + 6.5% British_Kent @ 4.84
18 89.6% Jew_Tat + 10.4% Balkars @ 4.85
19 71.6% Iraqi_Jews + 28.4% Kumyks @ 4.86
20 59.5% Samaritians + 40.5% Chechens @ 4.88


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Jew_Tat @ 6.682077
2 Uzbekistani_Jews @ 8.081502
3 Turks @ 10.705292
4 Kurd_Jew @ 11.396507
5 Iran_Jew @ 11.457560
6 Armenian_Yerevan @ 11.700560
7 Iraqi_Jews @ 12.218586
8 Azeri @ 12.634300
9 Kurds @ 13.385614
10 Syrians @ 14.018161
11 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 14.222176
12 Iraki @ 14.519817
13 Syrian_Jew @ 15.870073
14 Cypriots @ 15.872995
15 Iranians @ 15.944368
16 Kurd @ 16.158611
17 Turkish_Kayseri @ 16.730255
18 Greek-Islands @ 18.414518
19 Jordanians @ 19.025204
20 Druze @ 19.151876

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Yerevan +50% Syrians @ 5.146190


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Yerevan +25% Palestinian +25% Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.568759


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian_Yerevan + Iraqi_Jews + Samaritians + Stalskoe @ 2.963402
2 Armenian_Yerevan + Iran_Jew + Samaritians + Stalskoe @ 3.315587
3 Armenian_Yerevan + Kurd_Jew + Samaritians + Stalskoe @ 3.366618
4 Georgian_Laz + Libyan_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.512092
5 Armenian_Yerevan + Jew_Tat + Samaritians + Stalskoe @ 3.533264
6 Armenian_Yerevan + Armenian_Yerevan + Palestinian + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.568759
7 Georgian_Imereti + Iraki + Morocco_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.597209
8 Georgian_Imereti + Iran_Jew + Morocco_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.623734
9 Georgian_Imereti + Iraqi_Jews + Morocco_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.627693
10 Armenian_Yerevan + Samaritians + Stalskoe + Uzbekistani_Jews @ 3.629356
11 Syrian_Jew + Turkish_Trabzon + Uzbekistan_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.657230
12 Georgian_Imereti + Iraki + Libyan_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.667187
13 Georgian_Imereti + Kurd_Jew + Libyan_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.671171
14 Abhkasians + Iraqi_Jews + Morocco_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.678019
15 Georgians + Iraqi_Jews + Morocco_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.692901
16 Georgian_Laz + Samaritians + Uzbekistan_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.698697
17 Georgian_Laz + Lebanese + Uzbekistan_Jew + Uzbekistani_Jews @ 3.705233
18 Georgian_Imereti + Kurd_Jew + Morocco_Jew + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.711187
19 Armenian_Yerevan + Armenian_Yerevan + Syrians + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.714024
20 Armenian_Yerevan + Armenian_Yerevan + Jordanians + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.720771

icebreaker
08-17-2014, 06:32 AM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.73
2 Mediterranean 22.66
3 South_Central_Asian 12.36
4 Afroasiatic 7.50
5 North_West_European 7.15
6 Roma 4.07
7 East_Siberian 3.39
8 South_East_Asian 3.38
9 Volga-Uralic 2.50
10 West_Siberian 2.33
11 Archaic_African 1.29
12 Sami-Finnic 1.21


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 5.739826
2 Azeri @ 10.466161
3 Jew_Tat @ 14.267959
4 Turkish_Kayseri @ 14.368587
5 Kurds @ 14.551397
6 Azov_Greek @ 15.405555
7 Uzbekistani_Jews @ 15.531707
8 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 15.565109
9 Armenian_Yerevan @ 16.117292
10 Iranians @ 16.348841
11 Kurd @ 16.765196
12 Turkish_Adana @ 17.189079
13 Kurd_Jew @ 17.276716
14 Turkish_Aydin @ 18.522394
15 Iran_Jew @ 18.612484
16 Crimean_Tatar @ 19.295938
17 Iraki @ 19.376579
18 Greek-Islands @ 19.514032
19 Azeri_Dagestan @ 19.773687
20 Cypriots @ 19.913641

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turks +50% Turks @ 5.739826


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Yerevan +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Turkmen @ 4.560082


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Imereti + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.808915
2 Georgian_Laz + Kurds + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.869295
3 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.880846
4 Georgian_Laz + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.913694
5 Georgian_Laz + Kurd + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.986017
6 Georgian_Imereti + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.008128
7 Georgian_Laz + Sephardic_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.017781
8 Georgians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.025112
9 Georgian_Laz + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.056574
10 Abhkasians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.135280
11 Georgian_Imereti + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.136798
12 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.141987
13 Georgian_Laz + Iranians + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 4.158431
14 Abhkasians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.191814
15 Moroccan_Jews + Ossetian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.192041
16 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Kurds + Turkmen @ 4.194941
17 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.206491
18 Georgians + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.217964
19 Armenian_Yerevan + Azeri_Dagestan + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.220737
20 Georgians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.221984

Dr_McNinja
08-17-2014, 10:33 AM
Are there population averages available for this calculator? Would like to know more about the Tiwari population and the West Siberian, Roma, Mediterranean, South Central Asian components.

I think everyone should start using Afghans/Pashtun as the reference population for South Central Asian.

Humanist
08-18-2014, 01:15 AM
Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Tat 6.1
2 Uzbekistani_Jews 7.24
3 Turks 9.9
4 Kurd_Jew 10.08
5 Iran_Jew 10.19
6 Armenian_Yerevan 10.47
7 Iraqi_Jews 10.96
8 Azeri 11.48
9 Kurds 11.86
10 Syrians 12.7
11 Uzbekistan_Jew 12.71
12 Iraki 13.07
13 Iranians 14.31
14 Cypriots 14.35
15 Syrian_Jew 14.36
16 Kurd 14.36
17 Turkish_Kayseri 15.3
18 Greek-Islands 16.57
19 Druze 17.25
20 Azov_Greek 17.62

What do you think of MDLP results in general? Compared to the other open source projects, they are always a bit "off" for Assyrians, when compared to Harappa, Dodecad, and Eurogenes. I reckon it has to do with the focus of the project (i.e. Europeans).

DMXX
08-18-2014, 01:17 AM
What do you think of MDLP results in general? Compared to the other open source projects, they are always a bit "off" for Assyrians, when compared to Harappa, Dodecad, and Eurogenes. I reckon it has to do with the focus of the project (i.e. Europeans).

I also suspect the number of K's might actually render the runs less informative than we'd hope.

ZephyrousMandaru
08-18-2014, 04:42 AM
What do you think of MDLP results in general? Compared to the other open source projects, they are always a bit "off" for Assyrians, when compared to Harappa, Dodecad, and Eurogenes. I reckon it has to do with the focus of the project (i.e. Europeans).

They're alright, but they do tend to produce odd results at times, and some of the clusters could use more appropriate labeling. Another problem with adding several clusters is that, the more clusters you add, the more likely the results will be affected by statistical noise. So there's a definitely a threshold to be stipulated when it comes to inferring the K value. Caucasian and South_Central_Asia could be related components, in fact, it probably corresponds best with Dienekes' "West_Asian" cluster. When I add both my "Caucasian" and "South_Central_Asian" values together, it adds up to 45.04%.

Since Dienekes' West_Asian cluster is basically Caucasus+Gedrosia, this kind of makes sense. The addition of other ancestral clusters, gives ADMIXTURE more options to categorize my genetic substructure. Rather than just relegating it to"West_Asian", since the South_Asian cluster ANI+ASI, the ASI in South Asian could be what's offsetting ANI in West Asians. And because of this, ADMIXTURE probably prefers to just consolidate it into one cluster, that being West_Asian. If ANI and ASI were separated, it might actually have gone into the ANI cluster rather than into West_Asian.

vettor
08-18-2014, 05:49 AM
What do you think of MDLP results in general? Compared to the other open source projects, they are always a bit "off" for Assyrians, when compared to Harappa, Dodecad, and Eurogenes. I reckon it has to do with the focus of the project (i.e. Europeans).

IMO, they are as poor as K36 Eurogenes.......an attempt to move the epi-centre towards iberia

It would be far better if they could explain these new "ethnic' markers!

Again.........why don't these tests ever isolate the alpine people and then we might get a better picture of what the rest are from.........the alpines seem to be part of a north, south , east or west pull in many of these type of tests

Vadim Verenich
08-18-2014, 03:07 PM
Dear contributors,
First and foremost, I'd like thank you for sticking with a brand new Gedmatch MDLP Admixture calculator and providing valuable information about your own results. There is, however, still much room for improvement in estimating more or less accurate estimators of admixture. Unfortunately, It is only by the iterative feedback proccess, that is by calibrating the results of Gedmatch users against the results of reference sample, we'd be able to mitigate the shortcomings of Admixture approach (i.e so called calculator effect) and device more accurate admixture estimators. In order to do so, we need to collect more statistics.
With that being said, i'd like everyone to enter their K18 results into the following spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M3dkIpODqO6eAASF8MbLPnwO0wvprELSlbO_HNf4jis/edit?usp=sharing

MfA
08-18-2014, 03:17 PM
Dear contributors,
First and foremost, I'd like thank you for sticking with a brand new Gedmatch MDLP Admixture calculator and providing valuable information about your own results. There is, however, still much room for improvement in estimating more or less accurate estimators of admixture. Unfortunately, It is only by the iterative feedback proccess, that is by calibrating the results of Gedmatch users against the results of reference sample, we'd be able to mitigate the shortcomings of Admixture approach (i.e so called calculator effect) and device more accurate admixture estimators. In order to do so, we need to collect more statistics.
With that being said, i'd like everyone to enter their K18 results into the following spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M3dkIpODqO6eAASF8MbLPnwO0wvprELSlbO_HNf4jis/edit?usp=sharing

Can you release DiY files for those who weren't able to use GEDmatch? GEDmatch is down till friday.

DMXX
08-18-2014, 03:22 PM
Dear contributors,
First and foremost, I'd like thank you for sticking with a brand new Gedmatch MDLP Admixture calculator and providing valuable information about your own results. There is, however, still much room for improvement in estimating more or less accurate estimators of admixture. Unfortunately, It is only by the iterative feedback proccess, that is by calibrating the results of Gedmatch users against the results of reference sample, we'd be able to mitigate the shortcomings of Admixture approach (i.e so called calculator effect) and device more accurate admixture estimators. In order to do so, we need to collect more statistics.
With that being said, i'd like everyone to enter their K18 results into the following spreadsheet


Thank you Vadim for releasing another calculator for the genetic genealogy community to experiment with. All your hard work is much appreciated.

I'll have to second MfA's comment. GEDmatch may be down until August 22nd. If this isn't possible, we'll have to sit tight until then.

Dr_McNinja
08-18-2014, 03:59 PM
Those population averages are interesting. The Tiwari + 7-8% NE-European does look like a close fit for my results. I'm still confused by how so many South Asian populations have higher South Central Asian than my father and I (~27%). Even the Tamil Nadu Brahmins are at 31% and Andhra Pradesh Brahmins are at 39% (!). Meghawal, Tamil Brahmins are at 33%. My mother and grandmother are barely close to ~30%. Sapporo (HRP0341) and my brother in law (HRP0402) are at 33 and 34 respectively. I would have expected a bigger spread. Especially since HRP0402 hit almost 41% Gedrosian in Harappa.

HRP0370's SCA also looks odd. The Pashtun average is 32% for South Central Asian and under 2% for Mediterranean meanwhile she's at 27 and 7 respectively. There was a "leaky" relationship between Gedrosian and Atlantic-Mediterranean components in other calculators, I wonder if something similar is occurring here since the South Indian and Caucasian are within 1%.

So there's a clear discrepancy between the Gedrosian results for calculator users and reference populations among South Asians here.

Humanist
08-18-2014, 04:59 PM
MDLP Ancient Roots K18

I downloaded the sheet with population values and entered your data. A cluster analysis is below. You are most similar to the East Mizrahim Jews, save for one of the Uzbekistani Jewish groups, who are most similar to Iranians/Kurds/Azeris.

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g326/dok101/dok101014/MDLP_Assyrian.jpg

DMXX
08-18-2014, 05:22 PM
I downloaded the sheet with population values and entered your data. A cluster analysis is below. You are most similar to the East Mizrahim Jews, save for one of the Uzbekistani Jewish groups, who are most similar to Iranians/Kurds/Azeris.

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g326/dok101/dok101014/MDLP_Assyrian.jpg

Interesting to see the Azeris cluster with Iranians and Kurds here. Vadim, where did these Azeri samples come from?

Humanist
08-18-2014, 05:41 PM
Here is a Neighbor-Joining tree. Iraqi Arabs are most similar to the cluster containing Iranians, Kurds, Azeris and one of the Uzbekistani Jewish groups. While Syrian Arabs cluster with their fellow Levantine Arabs (not pictured) in the NJ tree. Also not pictured, Druze cluster with Samaritans, and Cypriots cluster with Syrian Jews.

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g326/dok101/dok101015/MDLP_NJ.jpg

Vadim Verenich
08-18-2014, 06:06 PM
Interesting to see the Azeris cluster with Iranians and Kurds here. Vadim, where did these Azeri samples come from?

Azeris are from Reich Lab's HumanOrigin control dataset

ZephyrousMandaru
08-18-2014, 06:56 PM
Azeris are from Reich Lab's HumanOrigin control dataset

Vadim, it appears that some people removed all the samples from your datasheet, and replaced them with some rather racy photos of nude elderly women, and other odd assorted pornography.

vettor
08-18-2014, 08:36 PM
Dear contributors,
First and foremost, I'd like thank you for sticking with a brand new Gedmatch MDLP Admixture calculator and providing valuable information about your own results. There is, however, still much room for improvement in estimating more or less accurate estimators of admixture. Unfortunately, It is only by the iterative feedback proccess, that is by calibrating the results of Gedmatch users against the results of reference sample, we'd be able to mitigate the shortcomings of Admixture approach (i.e so called calculator effect) and device more accurate admixture estimators. In order to do so, we need to collect more statistics.
With that being said, i'd like everyone to enter their K18 results into the following spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M3dkIpODqO6eAASF8MbLPnwO0wvprELSlbO_HNf4jis/edit?usp=sharing

which cell do I start and where does description of ancestry go?

Dr_McNinja
08-18-2014, 08:58 PM
I just started adding them at the bottom and putting them in parenthesis along with the Harappa ID. I added me, my family, HRP0370, HRP0402 and Sapporo/HRP0341.

Vadim Verenich
08-18-2014, 09:18 PM
Vadim, it appears that some people removed all the samples from your datasheet, and replaced them with some rather racy photos of nude elderly women, and other odd assorted pornography.

How so? Is it a joke?

vettor
08-18-2014, 09:29 PM
I just started adding them at the bottom and putting them in parenthesis along with the Harappa ID. I added me, my family, HRP0370, HRP0402 and Sapporo/HRP0341.

thanks

I see yours

Now I need to find my remaining less than 4% ones

ZephyrousMandaru
08-18-2014, 10:12 PM
How so? Is it a joke?

No it's not, I was being 100% serious. The problem seems to have corrected itself.

Edit: There is now a picture of EliasAlucard's face in the spreadsheet.

DMXX
08-18-2014, 10:15 PM
Unfortunately not. The spreadsheet's been vandalised again. This time with the face of a "raceboard" user.

It's probably for the best that the spreadsheet's privacy restrictions are revisited.

[Edit]: It's been replaced with a picture of a man in a thobe.
[Edit again]: The raceboard user's picture returned...

Dr_McNinja
08-18-2014, 10:20 PM
Looks like someone is messing with it again. Vadim, you might as well just make it read only and enter the data yourself when you get a chance from our posts here.

everest59
08-18-2014, 11:46 PM
Brahmins from UP have around the same amount of South Indian as Brahmins from Tamil Nadu? Something's odd there. I see both at ~ 47%.
Also, where are the Tiwaris from?

Vadim Verenich
08-19-2014, 05:46 PM
Ok, i'll try to upload DiY file to GoogleDrive

Shaikorth
08-19-2014, 07:14 PM
By the way, if you have some of the ancient genomes like La Braña-1 and AJV58 at hand, could you run them through this calculator. Might be interesting.

everest59
08-19-2014, 07:36 PM
I wouldn't mind running them once Vadim uploads the calculator.

Ignis90
08-19-2014, 07:39 PM
I feel the calculator effect sadly. I can't directly compare my results to the populations of my region because we're quite different.

My primary components are spot-on though: 29% Mediterranean (much lower than expected), 21% Afroasiatic (same as the former). Other minor ones are unusual, like East European (4.83%), South-Central Asian (3.88%), Caucasian (3.6%)...

Vadim Verenich
08-19-2014, 09:23 PM
Here is a direct link to K18 DIY files. Use it on your own risk with discretion

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6n7iMc2P-yQb2NPRldIWnY4Zk5LQkJuT05rU3VFaWlVRDdn/edit?usp=sharing

Vadim Verenich
08-19-2014, 09:28 PM
Please forward this link elsewhere

Humanist
08-19-2014, 10:24 PM
MDLP Ancient Roots K18

Comparing our values:


Zephyr Human
31.61 27.6 Caucasian
0.64 0 Melano-Austronesian
0.21 0.09 Volga-Uralic
0.63 2.41 East_Siberian
1.36 0 West_Siberian
13.43 17.75 South_Central_Asian
0.32 1.4 South_Indian
4.74 2.87 North_West_European
0 0 Sami-Finnic
0 0.1 South_East_Asian
0 0.24 Archaic_African
27.77 25.92 Mediterranean
0 0.01 Arctic
15.33 15.43 Afroasiatic
0 1.71 East_European
3.08 3.8 Roma
0.86 0.42 East_African
0 0.25 Amerindian

ZephyrousMandaru
08-19-2014, 10:36 PM
Comparing our values:


Zephyr Human
31.61 27.6 Caucasian
0.64 0 Melano-Austronesian
0.21 0.09 Volga-Uralic
0.63 2.41 East_Siberian
1.36 0 West_Siberian
13.43 17.75 South_Central_Asian
0.32 1.4 South_Indian
4.74 2.87 North_West_European
0 0 Sami-Finnic
0 0.1 South_East_Asian
0 0.24 Archaic_African
27.77 25.92 Mediterranean
0 0.01 Arctic
15.33 15.43 Afroasiatic
0 1.71 East_European
3.08 3.8 Roma
0.86 0.42 East_African
0 0.25 Amerindian

This is interesting, you're slightly more South_Central_Asian than I am. Which explains why might be comparatively closer to Kurds, Iranians and Iraqi Mandaeans than I am. I'm curious to know if this normal variation within the Assyrian community, are Iranian Assyrians slightly more South_Central_Asian and Gedrosian than Non-Iranian Assyrians? Are Assyrians belonging to the Syriac Orthodox Church slightly closer to Iraqi Jews and Levantine Arabs than Iranian and Iraqi Assyrians?

everest59
08-19-2014, 11:07 PM
Okay, so, Generalissimo sent me a new datafile for AG2 (which has higher SNP count) today . So some data here, starting with AG2, and also a few others, using this calculator.



2.03% Caucasian
2.52% Melano-Austronesian
16.53% Volga-Uralic
0.00% East_Siberian
0.67% West_Siberian
10.43% South_Central_Asian
4.33% South_Indian
4.03% North_West_European
6.76% Sami-Finnic
0.00% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
0.00% Mediterranean
6.40% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
26.53% East_European
0.00% Roma
4.90% East_African
14.89% Amerindian

Ma-1 :

0.00% Caucasian
1.64% Melano-Austronesian
15.63% Volga-Uralic
0.00% East_Siberian
10.65% West_Siberian
16.51% South_Central_Asian
13.87% South_Indian
0.00% North_West_European
2.08% Sami-Finnic
0.00% South_East_Asian
2.02% Archaic_African
0.00% Mediterranean
1.28% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
16.66% East_European
0.00% Roma
1.13% East_African
18.53% Amerindian

Gok2 :
0.00% Caucasian
2.96% Melano-Austronesian
0.00% Volga-Uralic
1.80% East_Siberian
0.00% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.07% South_Indian
27.80% North_West_European
1.09% Sami-Finnic
0.96% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
34.30% Mediterranean
0.01% Arctic
5.96% Afroasiatic
16.57% East_European
6.03% Roma
2.46% East_African
0.00% Amerindian

Ajv58:
0.00% Caucasian
1.28% Melano-Austronesian
8.55% Volga-Uralic
0.00% East_Siberian
1.55% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
1.41% South_Indian
25.05% North_West_European
5.35% Sami-Finnic
0.26% South_East_Asian
1.27% Archaic_African
0.00% Mediterranean
1.11% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
46.09% East_European
0.00% Roma
2.72% East_African
5.36% Amerindian

La Brana-1
0.00% Caucasian
3.15% Melano-Austronesian
3.29% Volga-Uralic
0.31% East_Siberian
0.10% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
2.36% South_Indian
23.48% North_West_European
7.70% Sami-Finnic
5.28% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
0.00% Mediterranean
1.17% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
50.87% East_European
0.00% Roma
1.72% East_African
0.58% Amerindian

MfA
08-19-2014, 11:07 PM
@ZephyrousMandaru Can you post the results you get via DiY calculator?

Humanist
08-19-2014, 11:08 PM
This is interesting, you're slightly more South_Central_Asian than I am. Which explains why might be comparatively closer to Kurds, Iranians and Iraqi Mandaeans than I am. I'm curious to know if this normal variation within the Assyrian community, are Iranian Assyrians slightly more South_Central_Asian and Gedrosian than Non-Iranian Assyrians? Are Assyrians belonging to the Syriac Orthodox Church slightly closer to Iraqi Jews and Levantine Arabs than Iranian and Iraqi Assyrians?

Geographically that would make sense. However, you appear to have a relatively low value for "South_Central_Asian":


26.44 Kurd
24.39 Kurds
23.69 Iranians
21.85 Uzbekistan_Jew
20.29 Iran_Jew
19.8 Kurd_Jew
17.93 Iraqi_Jews
17.9 Uzbekistani_Jews
17.75 Assyrian_H <-- Humanist
17.05 Jew_Tat
15.32 Druze
13.43 Assyrian_Z <-- Zephyrous
12.93 Samaritans

ZephyrousMandaru
08-19-2014, 11:21 PM
Geographically that would make sense. However, you appear to have a relatively low value for "South_Central_Asian":


26.44 Kurd
24.39 Kurds
23.69 Iranians
21.85 Uzbekistan_Jew
20.29 Iran_Jew
19.8 Kurd_Jew
17.93 Iraqi_Jews
17.9 Uzbekistani_Jews
17.75 Assyrian_H <-- Humanist
17.05 Jew_Tat
15.32 Druze
13.43 Assyrian_Z <-- Zephyrous
12.93 Samaritans

Wow, that is pretty low, I think that the "Iraki" reference, which I think are Iraqi Arabs have more than that. Same with Iraqi Jews.

ZephyrousMandaru
08-19-2014, 11:21 PM
@ZephyrousMandaru Can you post the results you get via DiY calculator?

Here they are.

31.61% Caucasian
0.64% Melano-Austronesian
0.27% Volga-Uralic
0.59% East_Siberian
1.33% West_Siberian
13.42% South_Central_Asian
0.32% South_Indian
4.70% North_West_European
0.05% Sami-Finnic
0.01% South_East_Asian
0.04% Archaic_African
27.76% Mediterranean
0.01% Arctic
15.33% Afroasiatic
0.00% East_European
3.07% Roma
0.85% East_African
0.00% Amerindian

Dr_McNinja
08-19-2014, 11:29 PM
What's with the 5% SE-Asian for LaBrana1?

everest59
08-19-2014, 11:31 PM
What's with the 5% SE-Asian for LaBrana1?

Seems to have some extra noise. Or perhaps I made a mistake. I'll look into it.

Edit. Just checked the data. It seems fine.

ZephyrousMandaru
08-19-2014, 11:36 PM
The 5% SE-Asian in LaBrana1 could represent indirect gene flow via ANE admixture in East Asians, but I'm not sure.

Sein
08-20-2014, 02:02 AM
What's with the 5% SE-Asian for LaBrana1?

For some reason, he always gets SE-Asian. Maybe it's related to a population movement involving his paternal haplogroup (I'm just speculating)?

Dr_McNinja
08-20-2014, 02:14 AM
For some reason, he always gets SE-Asian. Maybe it's related to a population movement involving his paternal haplogroup (I'm just speculating)?
How old is LaBrana1? Wouldn't Denisovan or pre-AMH show up as close to Papuan/Austronesian/SE-Asian if not African?

Chad Rohlfsen
08-20-2014, 05:57 AM
The SE Asian is something that shows up a lot in WHG and WHG/ANE mixes. Even in the Bronze Age Dane, I do believe. It's totally normal. Just a population outside of modern variation, that may most resemble something in modern SE Asians, pre-East/West split, maybe....

Chad Rohlfsen
08-20-2014, 05:58 AM
Here's mine. Thanks for running it, Zeph!

4.99% Caucasian
0.80% Melano-Austronesian
0.84% Volga-Uralic
0.01% East_Siberian
2.52% West_Siberian
4.70% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Indian
34.59% North_West_European
3.66% Sami-Finnic
0.18% South_East_Asian
0.13% Archaic_African
13.35% Mediterranean
1.01% Arctic
1.75% Afroasiatic
27.92% East_European
3.30% Roma
0.00% East_African
0.23% Amerindian

Shaikorth
08-20-2014, 06:01 AM
Seems to have some extra noise. Or perhaps I made a mistake. I'll look into it.

Edit. Just checked the data. It seems fine.



Some East Asian in admixture calculators for La Braña should be expected given that in f3 stats of Olalde et al, La Braña compared to most HGDP European samples (Orcadians, French, Italians and Basques) deviates slightly more towards East Asians than it deviates towards Native Americans. The way MA-1 behaves is the opposite, it's well known by now that it deviates more towards Native Americans than East Asians compared to modern Europeans. The difference is clearly more drastic with MA-1, but I do wonder how much the low coverage of MA-1 which makes many sites appear homozygous affects that in the end.

Visible in a and b. The blue dots are HGDP European populations including Adygei.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v507/n7491/images/nature12960-sf5.jpg

Chad Rohlfsen
08-20-2014, 06:10 AM
They're alright, but they do tend to produce odd results at times, and some of the clusters could use more appropriate labeling. Another problem with adding several clusters is that, the more clusters you add, the more likely the results will be affected by statistical noise. So there's a definitely a threshold to be stipulated when it comes to inferring the K value. Caucasian and South_Central_Asia could be related components, in fact, it probably corresponds best with Dienekes' "West_Asian" cluster. When I add both my "Caucasian" and "South_Central_Asian" values together, it adds up to 45.04%.

Since Dienekes' West_Asian cluster is basically Caucasus+Gedrosia, this kind of makes sense. The addition of other ancestral clusters, gives ADMIXTURE more options to categorize my genetic substructure. Rather than just relegating it to"West_Asian", since the South_Asian cluster ANI+ASI, the ASI in South Asian could be what's offsetting ANI in West Asians. And because of this, ADMIXTURE probably prefers to just consolidate it into one cluster, that being West_Asian. If ANI and ASI were separated, it might actually have gone into the ANI cluster rather than into West_Asian.

The West Asian cluster on k7, is pretty much intermediary between Caucasus and Gedrosia. When the two are put into the k7, West Asian, it is about 55-60% Gedrosia, the rest Caucasus. The rest of your Caucasus and Gedrosia get dumped off into other components like a South Asian, or maybe Western European, for Gedrosia, and to maybe SW Asian, or Southern for Caucasus.

Chad Rohlfsen
08-20-2014, 06:26 AM
I wonder if this Roma is a "Gedrosia" dump off. I can't think of any other way that the only person with more of it than myself, is Dr. McNinja. I don't know of any real Roma ancestry, in my family. I do have pictures of family that lived out of a horse drawn wagon, but they were supposedly just traveling Evangelists.

aarnisotka
08-20-2014, 09:18 AM
Fst distances between East European, NW European, Volga-Ural and Saami-Finnic. Despite Volga-Urals' closer affinity to Eastern Asian components, it is still far closer to the African components than Saami-Finnic is. This shows the farmer admix at Volga-Ural.

http://s28.postimg.org/7xng5uhgd/screenshot_974.png

aarnisotka
08-20-2014, 09:56 AM
Also, the non Sami-Finnic components are relatively closer to Melanesian and South Indian components. There looks to exist a cline from Melano-Austronesian through South Indian to those components.

Dr_McNinja
08-20-2014, 10:51 AM
I wonder if this Roma is a "Gedrosia" dump off. I can't think of any other way that the only person with more of it than myself, is Dr. McNinja. I don't know of any real Roma ancestry, in my family. I do have pictures of family that lived out of a horse drawn wagon, but they were supposedly just traveling Evangelists.According to the spreadsheet the Norwegian average for it was 5.76 which is quite odd. My mother had 5.21, my grandmother 4.81, my father 4.42, and me 4.39. It shows up in similar amounts in Greeks, Turks, and other Balkan populations and then South Asian populations.

So I have no idea what it represents.

MfA
08-20-2014, 10:56 AM
Roma component should be the youngest K, I think it represents the populations contributed to Roma communities. Check out the Romanians has 18% Roma. No Romanian has that much Roma ancestry, it is just Romanians contributed much to Romas, similarly ANE to modern components.

Chad Rohlfsen
08-20-2014, 12:58 PM
Where are the population averages? Are you sure that 18% isn't Romani, and not Romanian? I could see the Romani having 18%.

Hanna
08-20-2014, 05:24 PM
Where are the population averages? Are you sure that 18% isn't Romani, and not Romanian? I could see the Romani having 18%.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M3dkIpODqO6eAASF8MbLPnwO0wvprELSlbO_HNf4jis/edit?pli=1#gid=0

European Romas have a lot of that component.

Roma Macedonia 82.16%
Roma Bulgaria 75.74%
Roma Slovenia 83.65%
Roma BH 86.25%

vettor
08-20-2014, 06:36 PM
According to the spreadsheet the Norwegian average for it was 5.76 which is quite odd. My mother had 5.21, my grandmother 4.81, my father 4.42, and me 4.39. It shows up in similar amounts in Greeks, Turks, and other Balkan populations and then South Asian populations.

So I have no idea what it represents.

maybe they should have called it Balochi instead of roma.........Roma are very late in time into europe. Besides IIRC f3 ydna became H1b ydna in 2011, while Roma people are H1a ydna group in general

Humanist
08-20-2014, 07:21 PM
Comparing our values:


Zephyr Human
31.61 27.6 Caucasian
0.64 0 Melano-Austronesian
0.21 0.09 Volga-Uralic
0.63 2.41 East_Siberian
1.36 0 West_Siberian
13.43 17.75 South_Central_Asian
0.32 1.4 South_Indian
4.74 2.87 North_West_European
0 0 Sami-Finnic
0 0.1 South_East_Asian
0 0.24 Archaic_African
27.77 25.92 Mediterranean
0 0.01 Arctic
15.33 15.43 Afroasiatic
0 1.71 East_European
3.08 3.8 Roma
0.86 0.42 East_African
0 0.25 Amerindian

I posted our average values in the sheet.

Hanna
08-20-2014, 08:19 PM
Thanks to Zephyrous


Me------My aunt

33.91%----36.20% Caucasian
0.31%-----0.26% Melano-Austronesian
0.53%-----1.07% Volga-Uralic
2.58%-----0.90% East_Siberian
2.34%-----1.13% West_Siberian
12.05%----14.30% South_Central_Asian
0.25%-----1.45% South_Indian
7.64%-----5.57% North_West_European
0.04%-----0.02% Sami-Finnic
1.89%-----0.28% South_East_Asian
0.38%-----0.09% Archaic_African
22.94%----24.55% Mediterranean
0.39%-----0.00% Arctic
8.04%-----10.26% Afroasiatic
2.04%-----0.34% East_European
3.79%-----2.44% Roma
0.64%-----0.30% East_African
0.25%-----0.83% Amerindian

MfA
08-20-2014, 08:29 PM
Mine is quite different than both Kurdish samples on components like East Siberian, West Siberian, South Central Asian, South Indian, Arctic, East European, Roma. Actually it is closer to Azeris than Kurds which leads me to think calculator effect. I'm quite similar to Yunusbayev Kurds on Eurogenes and Everest/McNinja experiments.



Me Kurds
29.94 26.53 Caucasian
0.01 0.36 Melano-Austronesian
2.01 2.18 Volga-Uralic
1.5 0.31 East_Siberian
0.4 1.62 West_Siberian
19.38 24.39 South_Central_Asian
3.06 0 South_Indian
2.55 3.18 North_West_European
0.02 0.32 Sami-Finnic
0.03 0.2 South_East_Asian
0.01 0.14 Archaic_African
24.91 24.45 Mediterranean
1.51 0.63 Arctic
8.47 11.67 Afroasiatic
4.25 0.87 East_European
0.96 2.66 Roma
0.28 0.1 East_African
0.7 0.38 Amerindian

Dr_McNinja
08-20-2014, 09:49 PM
I think variations from 5 to 10% will be common here, as large as that seems. My dad wound up with 4.44% West Siberian from out of nowhere...

Sein
08-20-2014, 10:09 PM
I think variations from 5 to 10% will be common here, as large as that seems. My dad wound up with 4.44% West Siberian from out of nowhere...

Interestingly, West Siberian is an ANE signal in this calculator (MA1 scores 10%).

Edit: Here are my results, as well as those of two individuals who have provided permission.

Myself (62.5% Pakistani Pashtun, 37.5% Afghan Pashtun):

South_Central_Asian=29.62%
South_Indian=21.16%
Caucasian=17.58%
Volga-Uralic=5.12%
East_European=3.86%
Mediterranean=3.51%
Afroasiatic=3.38%
West_Siberian=2.94%
Roma=2.84%
Sami-Finnic=1.93%
Amerindian=1.74%
South_East_Asian=1.74%
North_West_European=1.64%
Arctic=1.58%
Melano-Austronesian=0.89%
Archaic_African=0.46%
East_Siberian=0.01%
East_African=0.00%

Afghan Pashtun:

South_Central_Asian=26.79%
South_Indian=20.49%
Caucasian=16.70%
South_East_Asian=5.59%
East_European=4.83%
Volga-Uralic=4.67%
Mediterranean=4.12%
North_West_European=3.89%
Roma=3.66%
Amerindian=2.54%
West_Siberian=2.10%
East_Siberian=1.79%
Afroasiatic=0.93%
Archaic_African=0.83%
Arctic=0.63%
Sami-Finnic=0.21%
Melano-Austronesian=0.16%
East_African=0.06%

50% Afghan Tajik, 50% Afghan Pashtun:

South_Central_Asian=28.76%
South_Indian=19.12%
Caucasian=18.85%
East_European=6.93%
Volga-Uralic=5.92%
East_Siberian=3.34%
Mediterranean=3.20%
Afroasiatic=3.15%
Roma=2.13%
Sami-Finnic=1.94%
West_Siberian=1.67%
North_West_European=1.44%
Amerindian=1.13%
East_African=0.73%
South_East_Asian=0.63%
Melano-Austronesian=0.52%
Archaic_African=0.45%
Arctic=0.08%

Dr_McNinja
08-20-2014, 11:05 PM
Interestingly, West Siberian is an ANE signal in this calculator (MA1 scores 10%).Lol, and I got none! I wonder into which component the equivalent admixture in me went.

ZephyrousMandaru
08-21-2014, 12:26 AM
Results for another Assyrian.

29.41% Caucasian
0.10% Melano-Austronesian
1.18% Volga-Uralic
0.08% East_Siberian
0.90% West_Siberian
15.45% South_Central_Asian
0.78% South_Indian
3.43% North_West_European
0.04% Sami-Finnic
0.27% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
27.67% Mediterranean
0.96% Arctic
14.44% Afroasiatic
2.05% East_European
3.18% Roma
0.00% East_African
0.04% Amerindian

Humanist
08-21-2014, 12:31 AM
Results for another Assyrian.

Who is he/she? Which church is he/she from?

ZephyrousMandaru
08-21-2014, 12:38 AM
Who is he/she? Which church is he/she from?

He's a match on my Relative Finder. He's from Iraq, I presume he's a member of the Nestorian church.

Humanist
08-21-2014, 01:22 AM
He's a match on my Relative Finder. He's from Iraq, I presume he's a member of the Nestorian church.

Good deal. Thanks.

everest59
08-21-2014, 01:58 AM
Interestingly, West Siberian is an ANE signal in this calculator (MA1 scores 10%).


I got something like 3 % West Siberian. Results below:

10.14% Caucasian
0.85% Melano-Austronesian
3.31% Volga-Uralic
0.00% East_Siberian
3.21% West_Siberian
28.39% South_Central_Asian
31.53% South_Indian
3.76% North_West_European
2.03% Sami-Finnic
5.10% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
0.20% Mediterranean
1.19% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
5.99% East_European
2.50% Roma
0.43% East_African
1.38% Amerindian

I got more "East Asian" like admixtures with this calculator than with others, but some of the East Asianlike admixtures in my case are probably just ANE (like for example West Siberian or Amerindian). Now, the SE Asian is the real East Asian in my case. Others, probably not.

DMXX
08-21-2014, 02:04 AM
My results. A bit surprised by the high Mediterranean (South-Central Asian/Gedrosian is usually much higher in value).

24.63% Caucasian
20.71% Mediterranean
20.25% South_Central_Asian
10.12% Afroasiatic
6.63% East_European
5.03% South_Indian
2.28% Roma
2.24% South_East_Asian
2.16% North_West_European
1.97% Arctic
1.61% West_Siberian
0.59% Melano-Austronesian
0.57% Archaic_African
0.39% Sami-Finnic
0.37% Amerindian
0.18% East_African
0.17% East_Siberian
0.09% Volga-Uralic

Dr_McNinja
08-21-2014, 04:05 AM
My results. A bit surprised by the high Mediterranean (South-Central Asian/Gedrosian is usually much higher in value).

24.63% Caucasian
20.71% Mediterranean
20.25% South_Central_Asian
10.12% Afroasiatic
6.63% East_European
5.03% South_Indian
2.28% Roma
2.24% South_East_Asian
2.16% North_West_European
1.97% Arctic
1.61% West_Siberian
0.59% Melano-Austronesian
0.57% Archaic_African
0.39% Sami-Finnic
0.37% Amerindian
0.18% East_African
0.17% East_Siberian
0.09% Volga-UralicIt seems like Gedrosian went into Med for a few people with this calculator.

Sein
08-21-2014, 04:10 AM
The Med component here is much more Caucasus/Northern West Asian-shifted, which might be why DMXX isn't that different from Pashtuns when it comes to his "Caucasian" score.

Dr_McNinja
08-21-2014, 04:10 AM
Interestingly, West Siberian is an ANE signal in this calculator (MA1 scores 10%).

Edit: Here are my results, as well as those of two individuals who have provided permission.

Myself (62.5% Pakistani Pashtun, 37.5% Afghan Pashtun):

South_Central_Asian=29.62%
South_Indian=21.16%
Caucasian=17.58%
Volga-Uralic=5.12%
East_European=3.86%
Mediterranean=3.51%
Afroasiatic=3.38%
West_Siberian=2.94%
Roma=2.84%
Sami-Finnic=1.93%
Amerindian=1.74%
South_East_Asian=1.74%
North_West_European=1.64%
Arctic=1.58%
Melano-Austronesian=0.89%
Archaic_African=0.46%
East_Siberian=0.01%
East_African=0.00%

Afghan Pashtun:

South_Central_Asian=26.79%
South_Indian=20.49%
Caucasian=16.70%
South_East_Asian=5.59%
East_European=4.83%
Volga-Uralic=4.67%
Mediterranean=4.12%
North_West_European=3.89%
Roma=3.66%
Amerindian=2.54%
West_Siberian=2.10%
East_Siberian=1.79%
Afroasiatic=0.93%
Archaic_African=0.83%
Arctic=0.63%
Sami-Finnic=0.21%
Melano-Austronesian=0.16%
East_African=0.06%

50% Afghan Tajik, 50% Afghan Pashtun:

South_Central_Asian=28.76%
South_Indian=19.12%
Caucasian=18.85%
East_European=6.93%
Volga-Uralic=5.92%
East_Siberian=3.34%
Mediterranean=3.20%
Afroasiatic=3.15%
Roma=2.13%
Sami-Finnic=1.94%
West_Siberian=1.67%
North_West_European=1.44%
Amerindian=1.13%
East_African=0.73%
South_East_Asian=0.63%
Melano-Austronesian=0.52%
Archaic_African=0.45%
Arctic=0.08%That 5.6% SE-Asian is interesting. Combined with the elevated Arctic/Siberian, that person has a lot of East Asian registering here.

Dr_McNinja
08-21-2014, 04:20 AM
Have any other South Asians had Roma in the 4-5% range?

aarnisotka
08-21-2014, 08:15 AM
The Med component here is much more Caucasus/Northern West Asian-shifted, which might be why DMXX isn't that different from Pashtuns when it comes to his "Caucasian" score.

Med component peaks with Sardinians, Samaritans, Jews and North Africans. North West Euro with a Basque peak looks to be truer med component.

aarnisotka
08-21-2014, 08:21 AM
maybe they should have called it Balochi instead of roma.........Roma are very late in time into europe. Besides IIRC f3 ydna became H1b ydna in 2011, while Roma people are H1a ydna group in general

Roma really did manage to absorb all the ancient Balochi when they entered Europe.

StarDS9
08-21-2014, 04:48 PM
My results.

FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

28.10% Caucasian
22.24% Mediterranean
20.52% South_Central_Asian
7.24% Afroasiatic
4.41% Roma
3.30% North_West_European
3.11% South_Indian
2.95% East_European
1.56% Volga-Uralic
1.52% East_Siberian
1.00% West_Siberian
1.00% Arctic
0.94% East_African
0.74% Sami-Finnic
0.71% Amerindian
0.67% South_East_Asian

MfA
08-21-2014, 09:09 PM
After seeing DMXX and StarDS9's results I'm confident to say that as long as you don't compare your results to the spreadsheet it is nice and dandy. That's called calculator effect. I can compare my results to other felllow Kurds when gedmatch is ready, I'm sure we're all gonna be different than the spreadsheet.


My results.

28.10% Caucasian
22.24% Mediterranean
20.52% South_Central_Asian
7.24% Afroasiatic
4.41% Roma
3.30% North_West_European
3.11% South_Indian
2.95% East_European
1.56% Volga-Uralic
1.52% East_Siberian
1.00% West_Siberian
1.00% Arctic
0.94% East_African
0.74% Sami-Finnic
0.71% Amerindian
0.67% South_East_Asian

Your results make sense compared to me, you are always more eastern and more North Caucasian than me -I'm usualy more western and South Caucasian like-, I just can't see how my East Euro is higher than yours it should be opposite. I can only speculate that is because of my low Roma value(such a useless component) that inflates my East Euro and hinders yours.

Humanist
08-21-2014, 10:28 PM
I screwed this up before because I did not notice that Star and DMXX had sorted their values. So, let us see if the third time's a charm.

DIY values for West Asians (3 Assyrians, 2 Kurds, 1 Iranian, 1 Turk):


Zeph Huma Asy3 MfA_ DMXX StarD Hann
31.61 27.6 29.41 29.94 24.63 28.1 33.91 Caucasian
0.64 0 0.1 0.01 0.59 0 0.31 Melano-Austronesian
0.21 0.09 1.18 2.01 0.09 1.56 0.53 Volga-Uralic
0.63 2.41 0.08 1.5 0.17 1.52 2.58 East_Siberian
1.36 0 0.9 0.4 1.61 1 2.34 West_Siberian
13.43 17.75 15.45 19.38 20.25 20.52 12.05 South_Central_Asian
0.32 1.4 0.78 3.06 5.03 3.11 0.25 South_Indian
4.74 2.87 3.43 2.55 2.16 3.3 7.64 North_West_European
0 0 0.04 0.02 0.39 0.74 0.04 Sami-Finnic
0 0.1 0.27 0.03 2.24 0.67 1.89 South_East_Asian
0 0.24 0 0.01 0.57 0 0.38 Archaic_African
27.77 25.92 27.67 24.91 20.71 22.24 22.94 Mediterranean
0 0.01 0.96 1.51 1.97 1 0.39 Arctic
15.33 15.43 14.44 8.47 10.12 7.24 8.04 Afroasiatic
0 1.71 2.05 4.25 6.63 2.95 2.04 East_European
3.08 3.8 3.18 0.96 2.28 4.41 3.79 Roma
0.86 0.42 0 0.28 0.18 0.94 0.64 East_African
0 0.25 0.04 0.7 0.37 0.71 0.25 Amerindian

DMXX
08-21-2014, 10:35 PM
I screwed this up before because I did not notice that Star and DMXX had sorted their values. So, let us see if the third time's a charm.

DIY values for West Asians (3 Assyrians, 2 Kurds, 1 Iranian):


Zeph Huma Asy3 MfA_ DMXX StarD
31.61 27.6 29.41 29.94 24.63 28.1 Caucasian
0.64 0 0.1 0.01 0.59 0 Melano-Austronesian
0.21 0.09 1.18 2.01 0.09 1.56 Volga-Uralic
0.63 2.41 0.08 1.5 0.17 1.52 East_Siberian
1.36 0 0.9 0.4 1.61 1 West_Siberian
13.43 17.75 15.45 19.38 20.25 20.52 South_Central_Asian
0.32 1.4 0.78 3.06 5.03 3.11 South_Indian
4.74 2.87 3.43 2.55 2.16 3.3 North_West_European
0 0 0.04 0.02 0.39 0.74 Sami-Finnic
0 0.1 0.27 0.03 2.24 0.67 South_East_Asian
0 0.24 0 0.01 0.57 0 Archaic_African
27.77 25.92 27.67 24.91 20.71 22.24 Mediterranean
0 0.01 0.96 1.51 1.97 1 Arctic
15.33 15.43 14.44 8.47 10.12 7.24 Afroasiatic
0 1.71 2.05 4.25 6.63 2.95 East_European
3.08 3.8 3.18 0.96 2.28 4.41 Roma
0.86 0.42 0 0.28 0.18 0.94 East_African
0 0.25 0.04 0.7 0.37 0.71 Amerindian

Add up the Volga-Uralic, NW European and E European scores between MfA, myself and StarDS9, and you'll find a value that looks like the median score of the North European component the three of us tend to get across ADMIXTURE runs (8.81, 8.88 and 7.81 respectively), which is definitely on the higher end of the Kurdish and Iranian averages in other runs.

The South Indian and Caucasian scores looks consistent for the lot of us; I've always had more than most Iranians. I should also point out the reference Iranians are, somehow, 12% NW European. Something's definitely not right there.

Humanist
08-21-2014, 10:50 PM
Added Hanna as well. Sorry!

J Man
08-22-2014, 01:10 AM
Mine.

5.04% Caucasian
1.24% Melano-Austronesian
3.49% Volga-Uralic
1.52% East_Siberian
0.12% West_Siberian
8.66% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Indian
31.74% North_West_European
6.38% Sami-Finnic
0.06% South_East_Asian
0.79% Archaic_African
11.59% Mediterranean
1.06% Arctic
2.41% Afroasiatic
24.92% East_European
0.00% Roma
0.01% East_African
0.95% Amerindian

Vadim Verenich
08-22-2014, 01:52 PM
Thank you very much for testing beta-version of my calculator, i am also grateful to everyone for providing useful feedback regarding problems with the calculator's results.

Vadim Verenich
08-22-2014, 01:59 PM
I've also decided to restrict the access to spreadsheet with results after it got vandalized from unseen vandals.

Anglecynn
08-22-2014, 02:03 PM
I've also decided to restrict the access to spreadsheet with results after it got vandalized from unseen vandals.

Did you manage to see the original results before they were altered? I noticed a couple of the ones i entered have been changed by someone, as well as some others.

Táltos
08-22-2014, 02:12 PM
Did you manage to see the original results before they were altered? I noticed a couple of the ones i entered have been changed by someone, as well as some others.
I see my Mom's are changed too. Whoever is playing around with Vadim's spreadsheet is very immature.

Vadim Verenich
08-22-2014, 02:13 PM
Yes, and i saw Azeris being mystically changed into Finns.

Vadim Verenich
08-22-2014, 02:15 PM
I see my Mom's are changed too. Whoever is playing around with Vadim's spreadsheet is very immature.

There are at least four of them, but i'm not going to point them with my finger

Táltos
08-22-2014, 02:19 PM
There are at least four of them, but i'm not going to point them with my finger

Well it's a real shame some people have to act so juvenile. Thank you for all the admixture tests you give us. :)

Vadim Verenich
08-22-2014, 03:48 PM
Humans share many traits with other apes, including bites, breaking into their fellow's home, and vandalism.

Vadim Verenich
08-22-2014, 03:51 PM
Anyway, the original table remains untouched and i have entered into this table all results (published here and elsewhere on anthropological/ 23andme forums) myself. Please calm dawn, no effort is ever wasted.

crowens3
08-22-2014, 04:03 PM
I'm approximately 45% British/Irish, 42% German, 6.3% Prussian (Silesian), and the balance other and unknown ancestry but includes less than 1% Amerindian, less than 1% Ashkenazi Jewish, and about 0.1% Sub-Saharan African.

Here are my results using the DIY calculator:

18 ancestral populations
130344 total SNPs
15 flipped SNPs
43655 heterozygous SNPs
83 no-calls
0 absent SNPs
0.999363 genotype rate
mode genomewide

83 SNPs missing (no-call or absent)

11355 total iterations
9.999E-08 final dQ

----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

9.43% Caucasian
0.47% Melano-Austronesian
3.04% Volga-Uralic
0.00% East_Siberian
1.85% West_Siberian
4.78% South_Central_Asian
2.03% South_Indian
31.58% North_West_European
4.49% Sami-Finnic
0.00% South_East_Asian
0.24% Archaic_African
13.11% Mediterranean
0.14% Arctic
1.91% Afroasiatic
25.49% East_European
0.06% Roma
0.61% East_African
0.76% Amerindian

CPU time = 406.09 sec

Vadim Verenich
08-22-2014, 04:24 PM
Your results were already in. Welcome to coalition

Skytt
08-22-2014, 04:32 PM
MDLP Ancient Roots K18 Oracle results:

Kit M630526

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 34.54
2 East_European 31.01
3 Mediterranean 8.19
4 Caucasian 4.99
5 South_Central_Asian 4.28
6 Sami-Finnic 4.13
7 Volga-Uralic 3.71
8 Roma 2.87
9 Afroasiatic 2.45
10 West_Siberian 2.15
11 South_East_Asian 1.04
12 Melano-Austronesian 0.34
13 Amerindian 0.31

Paternal Grandparents were both born in Southern Sweden and two of my maternal gg grandparents were born in Norway, the rest of my mothers family is a mix of German, Colonial American British and also French.

Hanna
08-22-2014, 04:39 PM
Anyway, the original table remains untouched and i have entered into this table all results (published here and elsewhere on anthropological/ 23andme forums) myself. Please calm dawn, no effort is ever wasted.

Is the table public?

vettor
08-22-2014, 07:36 PM
Your results were already in. Welcome to coalition

Are mine there?

where can the data be found as the initial spreadsheet seemed to have been compromised

EDIT - found my old ones...here they are below.
Ethnicity from last ~350 years both paternal and maternal lines via BDM's...is from North East Italy

MDLP Ancient Roots K18 Oracle results:
MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 25.91
2 Mediterranean 22.38
3 East_European 20.58
4 Caucasian 12.44
5 Afroasiatic 5.67
6 Roma 3.53
7 South_Central_Asian 3.48
8 Sami-Finnic 3.37
9 Volga-Uralic 2.51
10 West_Siberian 0.05
11 South_East_Asian 0.04
12 Melano-Austronesian 0.02
13 Amerindian 0.01

MfA
08-22-2014, 07:39 PM
Is the table public?

I did backup at day one, though doesn't include later submissions.
Anyway here's the link
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e0_LM5mO_jOaRDda0QQPdnP548Z687RMyxVER2Q7te4/edit?usp=sharing

Hanna
08-22-2014, 07:49 PM
I did backup at day one, though doesn't include later submissions.
Anyway here's the link
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e0_LM5mO_jOaRDda0QQPdnP548Z687RMyxVER2Q7te4/edit?usp=sharing

Turkish Kayseri is 40% Caucasian and my aunt is 36% Caucasian. This is very unusual knowing that my aunt's (North Eastern Turk) Caucasus component is notably higher than the average Turk.

Hanna
08-22-2014, 08:00 PM
A Turkish friend made a small K18 dendrogram including me and few other Turks in it.

https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/1919670_344834122358933_9069098085283545392_n.jpg

J Man
08-23-2014, 11:16 PM
It is interesting and nice to see a calculator that separates West European (North West European) from Eastern European ancestry again.

J Man
08-23-2014, 11:21 PM
The North West European component seems to peak in the French Basques. The British also score very high in this component. The Irish must also score very high North West European.

MitchellSince1893
08-24-2014, 03:20 AM
Here are my results

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 31.62
2 East_European 30.7
3 Mediterranean 10.58
4 Caucasian 6.77
5 South_Central_Asian 5.97
6 Sami-Finnic 4.83
7 Volga-Uralic 4.39
8 Roma 1.42
9 South_Indian 1.03
10 Amerindian 1
11 Arctic 0.8
12 West_Siberian 0.36
13 Afroasiatic 0.27
14 Archaic_African 0.26


My father's results. As my father matches a few British Roma individuals, I would have thought his Roma would be higher.
# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 34.59
2 East_European 26.4
3 Mediterranean 10.98
4 Caucasian 9.25
5 South_Central_Asian 6.23
6 Sami-Finnic 3.17
7 Volga-Uralic 3.12
8 Afroasiatic 1.6
9 Amerindian 1.35
10 West_Siberian 0.99
11 South_Indian 0.9
12 East_Siberian 0.48
13 Melano-Austronesian 0.48
14 Archaic_African 0.3
15 Arctic 0.15
16 Roma 0.02

My mother's results
# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 33.44
2 East_European 29.92
3 Mediterranean 9.6
4 Caucasian 6.09
5 Sami-Finnic 6.07
6 South_Central_Asian 3.41
7 South_Indian 2.98
8 Volga-Uralic 2.84
9 Roma 2.74
10 Afroasiatic 0.94
11 Amerindian 0.77
12 Archaic_African 0.68
13 West_Siberian 0.24
14 Arctic 0.11
15 East_African 0.1
16 Melano-Austronesian 0.05

My paternal half uncle's results
# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 36.73
2 East_European 25.39
3 Mediterranean 12.2
4 Caucasian 10.9
5 Sami-Finnic 3.96
6 Volga-Uralic 3.09
7 South_Central_Asian 2.55
8 South_Indian 1.39
9 West_Siberian 0.84
10 Arctic 0.73
11 Melano-Austronesian 0.65
12 Amerindian 0.59
13 Afroasiatic 0.58
14 East_African 0.22
15 Archaic_African 0.19

All 4 of us match South Germans the closest on "Single Population Sharing"

Dr_McNinja
08-24-2014, 03:34 AM
I added a bunch of people to my spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuXBmvmgdkfVdFMtRHVlZDBuQ3lMcjhxMDE4V3JoY lE&usp=drive_web#gid=15

Here are their Oracles:


Haryana Jatt

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.7% Tiwari + 18.3% Mishar @ 5.12
2 80.3% Tiwari + 19.7% Tatar @ 5.24
3 81.2% Tiwari + 18.8% Kryashen @ 5.39
4 84.3% Tiwari + 15.7% Mordovian @ 5.47
5 84.2% Tiwari + 15.8% Mordovians @ 5.53
6 82.5% Tiwari + 17.5% Komi @ 5.55
7 84.4% Tiwari + 15.6% Russian @ 5.65
8 52.7% Brahmins_UP + 47.3% Tajiks @ 5.68
9 51.4% Brahmins_UP + 48.6% Tadjik @ 5.69
10 54.1% Kshatriya + 45.9% Tadjik @ 5.77
11 83.6% Tiwari + 16.4% Croatian @ 5.79
12 83.4% Tiwari + 16.6% German @ 5.86
13 85.6% Tiwari + 14.4% Ukrainian @ 5.88
14 55.5% Pashtun + 44.5% Brahmins_UP @ 5.94
15 55.5% Kshatriya + 44.5% Tajiks @ 5.94
16 85.7% Tiwari + 14.3% South-Russian @ 5.94
17 85.3% Tiwari + 14.7% Don_cossack @ 5.95
18 53.6% Tadjik + 46.4% Srivastava @ 5.95
19 84.2% Tiwari + 15.8% Slovak @ 5.97
20 85.3% Tiwari + 14.7% Ukranians @ 5.98

---

Haryana Jatt, Beniwal HRP0393

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.7% Tiwari + 19.3% Mishar @ 3.73
2 81.7% Tiwari + 18.3% German @ 3.78
3 83.2% Tiwari + 16.8% Mordovian @ 3.84
4 83.1% Tiwari + 16.9% Mordovians @ 4.03
5 83.2% Tiwari + 16.8% Russian @ 4.04
6 79.4% Tiwari + 20.6% Tatar @ 4.05
7 82.4% Tiwari + 17.6% Czech @ 4.16
8 82.4% Tiwari + 17.6% Croatian @ 4.25
9 82.8% Tiwari + 17.2% Slovak @ 4.27
10 82.6% Tiwari + 17.4% Mixed_CEU @ 4.29
11 80.3% Tiwari + 19.7% Kryashen @ 4.29
12 84.4% Tiwari + 15.6% Ukrainian @ 4.3
13 84.4% Tiwari + 15.6% Sorbs @ 4.38
14 81.5% Tiwari + 18.5% Komi @ 4.38
15 84.1% Tiwari + 15.9% Don_cossack @ 4.45
16 81.9% Tiwari + 18.1% Hungarians @ 4.47
17 84.6% Tiwari + 15.4% South-Russian @ 4.47
18 84.2% Tiwari + 15.8% Ukranians @ 4.48
19 84.7% Tiwari + 15.3% Polish @ 4.49
20 82.6% Tiwari + 17.4% Slovenian @ 4.52

---

Punjabi Jatt Sikh, Dhesi

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65% Tiwari + 35% Tadjik @ 3.72
2 57.2% Tiwari + 42.8% Pashtun @ 3.88
3 66.3% Tiwari + 33.7% Tajiks @ 3.91
4 60.1% Pashtun + 39.9% Brahmins_UP @ 3.95
5 57.1% Pashtun + 42.9% Kshatriya @ 3.95
6 67.4% Pashtun + 32.6% Dharkars @ 4.14
7 51.2% Kshatriya + 48.8% Tadjik @ 4.17
8 64.4% Pashtun + 35.6% Srivastava @ 4.19
9 69.3% Pashtun + 30.7% Kanjars @ 4.32
10 52.6% Kshatriya + 47.4% Tajiks @ 4.35
11 64.8% Pashtun + 35.2% Tharus @ 4.35
12 71.6% Pashtun + 28.4% Lodi @ 4.37
13 68.2% Pashtun + 31.8% Muslim @ 4.38
14 73.8% Pashtun + 26.2% Kol @ 4.6
15 72% Pashtun + 28% Scheduled_Caste_UP @ 4.63
16 72.8% Pashtun + 27.2% Dusadh @ 4.64
17 58.2% Pashtun + 41.8% Vaish @ 4.7
18 60.5% Pashtun + 39.5% TN_Brahmin @ 4.7
19 77.9% Pashtun + 22.1% TN_Dalit @ 4.73
20 72.7% Pashtun + 27.3% Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 4.74

---

Haryana Jatt, HRP0170

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% Tiwari + 19.7% German @ 5.6
2 77.6% Tiwari + 22.4% Tatar @ 5.62
3 80.7% Tiwari + 19.3% Croatian @ 5.65
4 79.3% Tiwari + 20.7% Mishar @ 5.68
5 80.2% Tiwari + 19.8% Hungarians @ 5.74
6 79.5% Tiwari + 20.5% Mixed_East_European @ 5.75
7 81.1% Tiwari + 18.9% Czech @ 5.88
8 79.8% Tiwari + 20.2% Austrian @ 5.92
9 81.1% Tiwari + 18.9% Slovenian @ 5.98
10 81.6% Tiwari + 18.4% Slovak @ 6.01
11 81.3% Tiwari + 18.7% Mixed_CEU @ 6.02
12 80.7% Tiwari + 19.3% Bosnian @ 6.02
13 82.1% Tiwari + 17.9% Mordovians @ 6.04
14 81% Tiwari + 19% Croat @ 6.06
15 82.3% Tiwari + 17.7% Mordovian @ 6.1
16 81% Tiwari + 19% Serb_BH @ 6.12
17 78.9% Tiwari + 21.1% Kryashen @ 6.16
18 81.2% Tiwari + 18.8% Croat_BH @ 6.19
19 80.6% Tiwari + 19.4% Mixed_European @ 6.2
20 83.4% Tiwari + 16.6% Ukrainian @ 6.23

---

Punjabi Jatt Sikh, Paul Gill

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.8% Pashtun + 34.2% Muslim @ 3.67
2 65.2% Pashtun + 34.8% Dharkars @ 3.68
3 54.8% Pashtun + 45.2% Vaish @ 3.71
4 62.3% Pashtun + 37.7% Tharus @ 3.74
5 67.2% Pashtun + 32.8% Kanjars @ 3.77
6 71.8% Pashtun + 28.2% Kol @ 3.78
7 60.5% Tiwari + 39.5% Pashtun @ 3.78
8 70.7% Pashtun + 29.3% Dusadh @ 3.82
9 75.1% Pashtun + 24.9% AP_Mala @ 3.85
10 57.7% Pashtun + 42.3% Brahmins_UP @ 3.86
11 72.6% Pashtun + 27.4% Kamsali @ 3.94
12 70% Pashtun + 30% Scheduled_Caste_UP @ 3.98
13 69.8% Pashtun + 30.2% Lodi @ 3.99
14 74.1% Pashtun + 25.9% Bhil @ 4
15 54.7% Pashtun + 45.3% Kshatriya @ 4.04
16 76.5% Pashtun + 23.5% Madiga @ 4.13
17 70.5% Pashtun + 29.5% Piramalai_Kallars @ 4.18
18 76.3% Pashtun + 23.7% TN_Dalit @ 4.18
19 74.4% Pashtun + 25.6% Sakilli @ 4.19
20 67.7% AP_Brahmin + 32.3% Lak @ 4.2

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Punjabi Jatt Muslim, HRP0283

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.2% Pathan + 26.8% AP_Brahmin @ 5.21
2 79.6% Pathan + 20.4% Tharus @ 5.26
3 74.9% Pathan + 25.1% Brahmins_Tamil @ 5.26
4 73.7% Pathan + 26.3% Kshatriya @ 5.3
5 81.3% Pathan + 18.7% Gujarati @ 5.38
6 53.4% Kalash + 46.6% Kshatriya @ 5.4
7 82.9% Pathan + 17.1% Velamas @ 5.41
8 80% Pathan + 20% Srivastava @ 5.42
9 76.7% Pathan + 23.3% Brahmins_UP @ 5.44
10 54.7% Pathan + 45.3% Pakistani @ 5.47
11 85.1% Pathan + 14.9% Naidu @ 5.51
12 77.8% Pathan + 22.2% Meghawal @ 5.54
13 82.5% Pathan + 17.5% Dharkars @ 5.54
14 83.8% Pathan + 16.2% Kanjars @ 5.58
15 86.2% Pathan + 13.8% Dusadh @ 5.6
16 81.3% Pathan + 18.7% Marwadi-Middle-caste @ 5.62
17 76.7% Pathan + 23.3% TN_Brahmin @ 5.62
18 86.1% Pathan + 13.9% Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 5.63
19 86.7% Pathan + 13.3% Vysya @ 5.64
20 87.3% Pathan + 12.7% Kamsali @ 5.65

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Bengali

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Nepalese + 36% Kurumba @ 3.14
2 51.2% Nepalese + 48.8% Gond @ 3.14
3 66.9% Nepalese + 33.1% Mala @ 3.49
4 71.3% Nepalese + 28.7% Malayan @ 3.57
5 64.6% Nepalese + 35.4% TN_Dalit @ 3.63
6 64.2% Nepalese + 35.8% Nihali @ 3.63
7 51.9% Nepalese + 48.1% Tharu @ 3.66
8 66.5% Nepalese + 33.5% Hallaki @ 3.71
9 62.2% Nepalese + 37.8% Hakkipikki @ 3.73
10 65.5% Nepalese + 34.5% Madiga @ 3.77
11 76.3% Nepalese + 23.7% Pulliyar @ 3.83
12 82.6% Kanjars + 17.4% Tu @ 3.88
13 82.5% Kanjars + 17.5% Madou_Tibetian @ 3.96
14 74.1% Nepalese + 25.9% Paniya @ 3.98
15 61.2% Nepalese + 38.8% Chamar @ 3.99
16 82.6% Kanjars + 17.4% TTR_Tibetian @ 4.02
17 83.2% Kanjars + 16.8% Nysha @ 4.05
18 83.9% Kanjars + 16.1% Naga @ 4.06
19 81.7% Lodi + 18.3% Tu @ 4.07
20 83.9% Kanjars + 16.1% Aonaga @ 4.12

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Afghan Pashtun, HRP0286

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.7% Pathan + 36.3% Turks @ 4.49
2 66.5% Pathan + 33.5% Azov_Greek @ 4.56
3 65.9% Pathan + 34.1% Crimean_Tatar @ 4.72
4 69.1% Pathan + 30.9% Turkish_Adana @ 5.02
5 65.2% Pathan + 34.8% Turkish_Aydin @ 5.08
6 67.2% Pathan + 32.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 5.11
7 55.3% Sindhi + 44.7% Crimean_Tatar @ 5.43
8 80% Pashtun + 20% Cretan @ 5.64
9 56.1% Sindhi + 43.9% Azov_Greek @ 5.66
10 83.6% Pashtun + 16.4% French_Jew @ 5.67
11 58.7% Pathan + 41.3% Azeri @ 5.78
12 61.1% Kalash + 38.9% Crimean_Tatar @ 5.83
13 69.5% Pathan + 30.5% Armenian_Yerevan @ 5.85
14 81% Pashtun + 19% Romanian_Jews @ 5.88
15 81.8% Pashtun + 18.2% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 5.9
16 61.8% Kalash + 38.2% Azov_Greek @ 5.95
17 53.1% Sindhi + 46.9% Turks @ 5.97
18 81.3% Pashtun + 18.7% Greek-Islands @ 6.17
19 80.5% Pashtun + 19.5% North_Greek @ 6.22
20 72% Pathan + 28% Greek-Islands @ 6.24

---

Bihari Brahmin, HRP0003

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tiwari 6.01
2 Kshatriya 9.47
3 Vaish 10.01
4 Pakistani 10.05
5 Brahmins_UP 11.23
6 TN_Brahmin 11.79
7 Brahmins_Tamil 12.43
8 Burusho 13.92
9 Meghawal 13.92
10 Mumbai_Jews 14.19
11 Srivastava 14.69
12 AP_Brahmin 14.87
13 Tharus 15.4
14 Nepalese 15.62
15 Pathan 16.03
16 Sindhi 17.11
17 Marwadi-Middle-caste 17.44
18 Dharkars 18.26
19 Muslim 19.28
20 Lambadi 19.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67% Srivastava + 33% Tadjik @ 3.3
2 67.7% Srivastava + 32.3% Tajiks @ 3.36
3 62.5% Dharkars + 37.5% Tajiks @ 3.44
4 61.9% Dharkars + 38.1% Tadjik @ 3.7
5 66.7% Tharus + 33.3% Tajiks @ 3.78
6 54.9% Lodi + 45.1% Tadjik @ 3.78
7 73.9% Brahmins_UP + 26.1% Tajiks @ 3.84
8 59.4% Kanjars + 40.6% Tajiks @ 3.86
9 81.6% Brahmins_UP + 18.4% Lezgin @ 3.91
10 81.2% Brahmins_UP + 18.8% Azeri_Dagestan @ 3.91
11 58.7% Kanjars + 41.3% Tadjik @ 3.93
12 63.1% Srivastava + 36.9% Pashtun @ 4.02
13 53.3% Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu + 46.7% Tadjik @ 4.03
14 82% Brahmins_UP + 18% Tabassaran @ 4.04
15 66.1% Tharus + 33.9% Tadjik @ 4.05
16 82.3% Brahmins_UP + 17.7% Lezgins @ 4.06
17 81.7% Brahmins_UP + 18.3% Nogais @ 4.07
18 53% Dusadh + 47% Tadjik @ 4.11
19 85.9% Kshatriya + 14.1% Mixed_East_European @ 4.12
20 72% Pathan + 28% Nihali @ 4.13

vettor
08-24-2014, 06:26 AM
My wife results
Her maternal and paternal are also from North-East Italy

MDLP Ancient Roots K18 Oracle results:
MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 27.33
2 East_European 22.77
3 Mediterranean 22
4 Caucasian 11.01
5 Afroasiatic 3.4
6 South_Central_Asian 2.99
7 Roma 2.82
8 Volga-Uralic 2.63
9 Sami-Finnic 1.05
10 South_East_Asian 0.99
11 East_Siberian 0.73
12 Melano-Austronesian 0.69
13 South_Indian 0.6
14 West_Siberian 0.53
15 East_African 0.24
16 Archaic_African 0.19
17 Arctic 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Piedmont 11.56
2 Occitan 12.36
3 South-German 12.59
4 Austrian 13.01
5 North_Italian 13.54
6 Toscani 14.46

mine below in red
1 Italian_Piedmont 10.25
2 Toscani 12.78
3 North_Italian 13.29
4 Occitan 13.57
5 Austrian 13.7

interesting is...my north_italian and toscani are higher position than hers...but she has south_german and I do not .....and she has more east european ( slightly)

BalkanKiwi
08-24-2014, 10:12 AM
Here is a copy of my results. My known ancestry is Croatian, Polish, Maori, English, Scottish and Irish. South German or German in general appears on most of the calculators for me. Maybe its a hint. I wasn't expecting my East European to be so high.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 30.00
2 East_European 29.35
3 Mediterranean 13.17
4 Caucasian 10.38
5 Volga-Uralic 3.90
6 Sami-Finnic 3.17
7 South_Indian 2.70
8 Afroasiatic 2.57
9 South_Central_Asian 2.07
10 Melano-Austronesian 1.32

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 5.434815
2 Austrian @ 6.922339
3 Mixed_European @ 8.735922
4 North_German @ 12.114234
5 N._European @ 15.033033
6 Swede @ 15.524719
7 Hungarians @ 16.013481
8 Belgian @ 16.368765
9 German @ 18.001081
10 Mixed_German @ 18.095026
11 French @ 18.499205
12 Swedish @ 18.962481
13 Mixed_CEU @ 19.144730
14 Slovenian @ 19.262318
15 CEU @ 19.380556
16 Welsh @ 19.384432
17 Occitan @ 20.286295
18 Montenegrian @ 20.828529
19 Czech @ 21.127247
20 Bosnian @ 21.574003

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% British +50% Russian_South @ 3.398045


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% German +25% Scottish_Argyll +25% Toscani @ 2.846590


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British_Kent + German + German + Toscani @ 2.827095
2 German + German + Scottish_Argyll + Toscani @ 2.846590
3 British_Kent + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll + Serb_BH @ 2.868349
4 German + Mixed_CEU + Scottish_Argyll + Toscani @ 2.877224
5 British_Kent + French + German + Russian_South @ 2.880582
6 German + German + Orcadian + Toscani @ 2.901990
7 British + German + German + Toscani @ 2.940367
8 British_Kent + Croat_BH + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.940832
9 Italian_Abruzzo + Mixed_Slav + Scottish_Argyll + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.942646
10 Cornish + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll + Serb_BH @ 2.956731
11 Bosnian + British_Kent + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.961621
12 Bosnian + Cornish + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.965873
13 British + CEU + Russian_South + Serb_Serbia @ 2.976494
14 Cornish + German + German + Toscani @ 2.990242
15 British_Kent + Italian_Abruzzo + Mixed_Slav + Scottish_Argyll @ 3.004300
16 British_Kent + German + Mixed_CEU + Toscani @ 3.016085
17 Orcadian + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll + Serb_Serbia @ 3.025511
18 Montenegrian + Orcadian + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 3.077291
19 Cornish + Croat_BH + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 3.081434
20 CEU + Montenegrian + Scottish_Argyll + Serb_BH @ 3.083235

BalkanKiwi
08-24-2014, 10:24 AM
Here is a copy of my results. My known ancestry is Croatian, Polish, Maori, English, Scottish and Irish. South German or German in general appears on most of the calculators for me. Maybe its a hint. I wasn't expecting my East European to be so high.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 30.00
2 East_European 29.35
3 Mediterranean 13.17
4 Caucasian 10.38
5 Volga-Uralic 3.90
6 Sami-Finnic 3.17
7 South_Indian 2.70
8 Afroasiatic 2.57
9 South_Central_Asian 2.07
10 Melano-Austronesian 1.32

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 5.434815
2 Austrian @ 6.922339
3 Mixed_European @ 8.735922
4 North_German @ 12.114234
5 N._European @ 15.033033
6 Swede @ 15.524719
7 Hungarians @ 16.013481
8 Belgian @ 16.368765
9 German @ 18.001081
10 Mixed_German @ 18.095026
11 French @ 18.499205
12 Swedish @ 18.962481
13 Mixed_CEU @ 19.144730
14 Slovenian @ 19.262318
15 CEU @ 19.380556
16 Welsh @ 19.384432
17 Occitan @ 20.286295
18 Montenegrian @ 20.828529
19 Czech @ 21.127247
20 Bosnian @ 21.574003

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% British +50% Russian_South @ 3.398045


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% German +25% Scottish_Argyll +25% Toscani @ 2.846590


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British_Kent + German + German + Toscani @ 2.827095
2 German + German + Scottish_Argyll + Toscani @ 2.846590
3 British_Kent + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll + Serb_BH @ 2.868349
4 German + Mixed_CEU + Scottish_Argyll + Toscani @ 2.877224
5 British_Kent + French + German + Russian_South @ 2.880582
6 German + German + Orcadian + Toscani @ 2.901990
7 British + German + German + Toscani @ 2.940367
8 British_Kent + Croat_BH + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.940832
9 Italian_Abruzzo + Mixed_Slav + Scottish_Argyll + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.942646
10 Cornish + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll + Serb_BH @ 2.956731
11 Bosnian + British_Kent + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.961621
12 Bosnian + Cornish + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.965873
13 British + CEU + Russian_South + Serb_Serbia @ 2.976494
14 Cornish + German + German + Toscani @ 2.990242
15 British_Kent + Italian_Abruzzo + Mixed_Slav + Scottish_Argyll @ 3.004300
16 British_Kent + German + Mixed_CEU + Toscani @ 3.016085
17 Orcadian + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll + Serb_Serbia @ 3.025511
18 Montenegrian + Orcadian + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 3.077291
19 Cornish + Croat_BH + Russian_South + Scottish_Argyll @ 3.081434
20 CEU + Montenegrian + Scottish_Argyll + Serb_BH @ 3.083235

I should mention if anyone wants to have a go trying to interpret this then feel free :)

DMXX
08-24-2014, 10:26 AM
GEDmatch is back up (http://v2.gedmatch.com/login1.php) for those who either weren't interested or able to run the DIY calculator.

My component scores are largely the same as the DIY, but the online calculator has the Oracle program as well. My top five for the single and mixed population scores below.

I believe Vadim's the first person to include site-specific Azeri samples, so I was somewhat surprised and pleased to see they were my top population, followed next by the Iranians, who I presume are from the Behar dataset. The order would've likely been reversed if northern Iranians were sampled.



# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 7.09
2 Iranians 7.97
3 Kurds 9.34
4 Kurd 9.63
5 Uzbekistan_Jew 10.03




1 81.7% Iranians + 18.3% Mixed_East_European @ 4.05
2 73.5% Iranians + 26.5% Crimean_Tatar @ 4.12
3 83.3% Iranians + 16.7% Bulgarians @ 4.87
4 84.3% Iranians + 15.7% Montenegrian @ 4.92
5 86.2% Iranians + 13.8% Bosnian @ 4.96

Dr_McNinja
08-24-2014, 11:14 AM
North Indian from Uttar Pradesh:


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tiwari 5.77
2 Kshatriya 8.59
3 Vaish 8.66
4 Pakistani 9.64
5 Brahmins_UP 10.36
6 TN_Brahmin 10.63
7 Brahmins_Tamil 11.06
8 Meghawal 12.73
9 AP_Brahmin 13.85
10 Srivastava 14.03
11 Tharus 14.37
12 Burusho 14.77
13 Mumbai_Jews 15.06
14 Pathan 16.34
15 Marwadi-Middle-caste 16.54
16 Sindhi 16.9
17 Dharkars 17.28
18 Nepalese 17.72
19 Muslim 18.41
20 Lambadi 18.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Brahmins_UP + 16.9% Tabassaran @ 3.23
2 82.8% Brahmins_UP + 17.2% Lezgin @ 3.29
3 83.5% Brahmins_UP + 16.5% Lezgins @ 3.43
4 83.8% Brahmins_UP + 16.2% Avar @ 3.53
5 84% Brahmins_UP + 16% Lak @ 3.53
6 59.7% Dharkars + 40.3% Pashtun @ 3.65
7 75.2% Pathan + 24.8% Malayan @ 3.76
8 84.5% Brahmins_UP + 15.5% Urkarah @ 3.77
9 82.8% Brahmins_UP + 17.2% Azeri_Dagestan @ 3.81
10 84% Brahmins_UP + 16% Stalskoe @ 3.82
11 78.6% Pathan + 21.4% Pulliyar @ 3.86
12 70% Pathan + 30% Chenchu @ 3.9
13 77.4% Pathan + 22.6% Paniya @ 3.91
14 52.1% Lodi + 47.9% Pashtun @ 3.92
15 56.3% Kanjars + 43.7% Pashtun @ 3.94
16 69.8% Pathan + 30.2% Kurumba @ 4.01
17 76.6% Pathan + 23.4% Irula @ 4.02
18 64.2% Dharkars + 35.8% Tadjik @ 4.04
19 64.9% Dharkars + 35.1% Tajiks @ 4.07
20 65% Srivastava + 35% Pashtun @ 4.09

Their results are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuXBmvmgdkfVdFMtRHVlZDBuQ3lMcjhxMDE4V3JoY lE&usp=drive_web#gid=15

MfA
08-24-2014, 11:51 AM
It would be great If Vadim can incorporate these calculator effect-free results to Oracle






Kurds_North
Kurds_South
Kurds_East


Caucasian
28.8
24.7
26.8


Melano Austronesian
0.3
0.4
0.3


Volga Uralic
2.8
2.7
3.0


East Siberian
0.8
0.6
0.5


West Siberian
0.5
1.2
1.5


South Central Asian
19.5
22.6
22.6


South Indian
2.4
3.3
3.2


North West European
3.5
3.8
2.9


Sami Finnic
0.6
0.6
0.7


South East Asian
0.4
0.4
0.3


Archaic African
0.3
0.6
0.4


Mediterranean
22.4
20.7
20.8


Arctic
0.6
0.6
0.2


Afroasiatic
10.3
11.9
11.1


East European
3.1
1.6
0.9


Roma
2.9
2.6
3.3


East African
0.4
0.7
0.7


Amerindian
0.6
1.0
0.7




N







Kurds_North
16






Kurds_South
4






Kurds_East
3

NK19191
08-24-2014, 12:40 PM
This is my result (Iranian)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 30.31
2 South_Central_Asian 18.65
3 Mediterranean 17.67
4 Afroasiatic 10.59
5 East_European 5.35
6 South_Indian 5.31
7 Volga-Uralic 3.04
8 North_West_European 2.01
9 South_East_Asian 1.68
10 Roma 1.51
11 East_Siberian 1.35
12 East_African 0.96
13 Arctic 0.71
14 Sami-Finnic 0.55
15 Melano-Austronesian 0.22
16 West_Siberian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 7.18
2 Iranians 10.36
3 Kurd 10.55
4 Kurds 11.14
5 Turks 11.15
6 Uzbekistan_Jew 11.86
7 Uzbekistani_Jews 14.13
8 Jew_Tat 14.18
9 Azeri_Dagestan 14.84
10 Kurd_Jew 15.38
11 Turkish_Kayseri 15.66
12 Iraki 16.03
13 Iran_Jew 16.26
14 Turkmens 16.5
15 Armenian_Yerevan 16.86
16 Turkish_Aydin 18.33
17 Azov_Greek 18.33
18 Iraqi_Jews 19.06
19 Syrians 19.09
20 Crimean_Tatar 19.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Iranians + 32.8% Kumyks @ 4.2
2 72.8% Iranians + 27.2% Kabardin @ 4.21
3 75.3% Iranians + 24.7% Balkars @ 4.43
4 76.4% Iranians + 23.6% Adygei @ 4.58
5 71.5% Iranians + 28.5% Cirkassian @ 4.61
6 77.3% Iranians + 22.7% North-Ossetian @ 4.73
7 75.9% Iranians + 24.1% Chechens @ 4.77
8 78.6% Iranians + 21.4% Ossetian @ 5.17
9 71.1% Iranians + 28.9% Lezgins @ 5.28
10 74.2% Iranians + 25.8% Lak @ 5.28
11 76.2% Iranians + 23.8% Urkarah @ 5.34
12 83.4% Azeri + 16.6% Tabassaran @ 5.37
13 74.2% Iranians + 25.8% Avar @ 5.39
14 71.8% Iranians + 28.2% Nogais @ 5.41
15 84.8% Azeri + 15.2% Lak @ 5.53
16 81.7% Azeri + 18.3% Lezgin @ 5.55
17 82.9% Azeri + 17.1% Lezgins @ 5.57
18 59.6% Armenian_Yerevan + 40.4% Pashtun @ 5.57
19 84.9% Azeri + 15.1% Avar @ 5.58
20 86.5% Azeri + 13.5% Chechens @ 5.61

Humanist
08-24-2014, 12:56 PM
Comparing one of the southern Iraqi Mandaean's Gedmatch results to my DIY results:


Huma IQM1
27.6 27.55 Caucasian
0 0.32 Melano-Austronesian
0.09 0 Volga-Uralic
2.41 0.84 East_Siberian
0 0 West_Siberian
17.75 17.95 South_Central_Asian
1.4 1.86 South_Indian
2.87 2.63 North_West_European
0 0.006 Sami-Finnic
0.1 0 South_East_Asian
0.24 0 Archaic_African
25.92 26.9 Mediterranean
0.01 0.92 Arctic
15.43 16.04 Afroasiatic
1.71 0.01 East_European
3.8 3.35 Roma
0.42 0.73 East_African
0.25 0.84 Amerindian

Hanna
08-24-2014, 02:05 PM
Turks with low Asian scores are matching with Turks first, even Armenians are matching with Turks before they match with Armenians!

My grandfather:

Population Percent

1 Caucasian 36.22
2 Mediterranean 22.97
3 South_Central_Asian 14
4 Afroasiatic 9.35
5 North_West_European 4.61
6 Roma 4.27
7 South_East_Asian 1.37
8 East_European 1.33
9 South_Indian 1.2
10 Sami-Finnic 1.2
11 Amerindian 1.02
12 Volga-Uralic 1
13 East_African 0.97
14 East_Siberian 0.45
15 West_Siberian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks 6.74
2 Armenian_Yerevan 8.64
3 Turkish_Kayseri 9.08
4 Azeri 10.07
5 Jew_Tat 11.58
6 Uzbekistani_Jews 13.1
7 Kurds 13.18
8 Kurd 14.54
9 Azeri_Dagestan 14.78
10 Uzbekistan_Jew 15
11 Iranians 15.62
12 Kurd_Jew 16.02
13 Azov_Greek 16.13
14 Iran_Jew 16.38
15 Turkish_Adana 16.86
16 Kumyks 17.88
17 Iraqi_Jews 18.19
18 Iraki 18.55
19 Syrians 19.63
20 Cypriots 19.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.1% Uzbekistan_Jew + 38.9% Georgian_Laz @ 3.78
2 64.7% Jew_Tat + 35.3% Cirkassian @ 3.98
3 78.4% Armenian_Yerevan + 21.6% Tajiks @ 4.05
4 61.7% Jew_Tat + 38.3% Kumyks @ 4.14
5 79.8% Armenian_Yerevan + 20.2% Tadjik @ 4.2
6 71.2% Jew_Tat + 28.8% Chechens @ 4.21
7 69.7% Jew_Tat + 30.3% Balkars @ 4.31
8 72.2% Jew_Tat + 27.8% Urkarah @ 4.33
9 61.7% Uzbekistani_Jews + 38.3% Cirkassian @ 4.45
10 62.8% Kurd_Jew + 37.2% Adygei @ 4.46
11 61.6% Kurd_Jew + 38.4% Balkars @ 4.47
12 64.5% Turkish_Kayseri + 35.5% Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.53
13 67.7% Jew_Tat + 32.3% Kabardin @ 4.54
14 65% Kurd_Jew + 35% Ossetian @ 4.55
15 71.7% Azeri + 28.3% Georgian_Laz @ 4.58
16 70.6% Jew_Tat + 29.4% Lak @ 4.67
17 56.3% Kurd_Jew + 43.7% Cirkassian @ 4.71
18 71% Jew_Tat + 29% Adygei @ 4.71
19 55.7% Iran_Jew + 44.3% Cirkassian @ 4.72
20 81.7% Armenian_Yerevan + 18.3% Pashtun @ 4.75


My grandmother:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.83
2 Mediterranean 24.79
3 South_Central_Asian 10.92
4 Afroasiatic 10.15
5 North_West_European 6.98
6 West_Siberian 3.2
7 Roma 2.23
8 Volga-Uralic 2.07
9 East_European 1.29
10 East_Siberian 1
11 South_Indian 0.49
12 Melano-Austronesian 0.44
13 Archaic_African 0.24
14 Sami-Finnic 0.21
15 East_African 0.16
16 Arctic 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks 6.86
2 Armenian_Yerevan 8.79
3 Turkish_Kayseri 10.41
4 Jew_Tat 12.07
5 Azeri 12.67
6 Uzbekistani_Jews 13.4
7 Azov_Greek 14.88
8 Kurds 14.94
9 Turkish_Adana 15.35
10 Uzbekistan_Jew 16.58
11 Kurd_Jew 16.69
12 Azeri_Dagestan 16.81
13 Kurd 16.9
14 Iran_Jew 16.92
15 Cypriots 17.57
16 Greek-Islands 17.58
17 Iranians 17.81
18 Iraqi_Jews 18.08
19 Syrian_Jew 18.56
20 Kumyks 18.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.7% Armenian_Yerevan + 12.3% British @ 3.89
2 86.9% Armenian_Yerevan + 13.1% Scottish_Argyll @ 3.9
3 87.3% Armenian_Yerevan + 12.7% Orcadian @ 3.92
4 88% Armenian_Yerevan + 12% Norwegian @ 3.93
5 86.9% Armenian_Yerevan + 13.1% Cornish @ 4.14
6 86.8% Armenian_Yerevan + 13.2% CEU @ 4.18
7 86.8% Armenian_Yerevan + 13.2% British_Kent @ 4.2
8 86.6% Armenian_Yerevan + 13.4% Welsh @ 4.22
9 54.4% Druze + 45.6% Chechens @ 4.25
10 87% Armenian_Yerevan + 13% Mixed_German @ 4.28
11 86.6% Armenian_Yerevan + 13.4% Belgian @ 4.5
12 85.8% Armenian_Yerevan + 14.2% French @ 4.62
13 86.5% Armenian_Yerevan + 13.5% N._European @ 4.71
14 61.6% Syrian_Jew + 38.4% Urkarah @ 4.75
15 88% Armenian_Yerevan + 12% Swedish @ 4.76
16 51.2% Azeri_Dagestan + 48.8% Cypriots @ 4.76
17 88% Armenian_Yerevan + 12% Swede @ 4.99
18 58.5% Cypriots + 41.5% Lezgins @ 4.99
19 63.1% Cypriots + 36.9% Urkarah @ 5.06
20 55.9% Druze + 44.1% Urkarah @ 5.12


Armenian from Antep:


# Population Percent

1 Caucasian 30.27
2 Mediterranean 29.82
3 Afroasiatic 13.17
4 South_Central_Asian 13.05
5 North_West_European 6.68
6 Roma 3.78
7 Amerindian 0.96
8 Melano-Austronesian 0.59
9 Sami-Finnic 0.59
10 East_Siberian 0.4
11 South_East_Asian 0.28
12 South_Indian 0.21
13 Arctic 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Tat 7.31
2 Uzbekistani_Jews 8.76
3 Turks 9.73
4 Kurd_Jew 10.9
5 Armenian_Yerevan 10.98
6 Iran_Jew 11.35
7 Iraqi_Jews 11.62
8 Cypriots 12.17
9 Azeri 12.19
10 Kurds 12.42
11 Syrian_Jew 12.61
12 Syrians 13.96
13 Greek-Islands 14.02
14 Uzbekistan_Jew 14.06
15 Iraki 14.78
16 Kurd 15.45
17 Iranians 15.52
18 Turkish_Kayseri 15.64
19 Druze 16.15
20 Azov_Greek 16.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.1% Jew_Tat + 17.9% Toscani @ 4.29
2 78.4% Jew_Tat + 21.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.36
3 90% Jew_Tat + 10% Spain_BASC @ 4.5
4 85.6% Jew_Tat + 14.4% Corsican @ 4.54
5 91.3% Jew_Tat + 8.7% French_Basque @ 4.62
6 89.5% Jew_Tat + 10.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.64
7 90.3% Jew_Tat + 9.7% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.72
8 85.9% Jew_Tat + 14.1% North_Italian @ 4.73
9 67.5% Druze + 32.5% Stalskoe @ 4.81
10 88.5% Jew_Tat + 11.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.81
11 88.6% Jew_Tat + 11.4% Spaniards @ 4.83
12 88.2% Jew_Tat + 11.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.84
13 84.2% Jew_Tat + 15.8% Italian_Piedmont @ 4.85
14 88.9% Jew_Tat + 11.1% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 4.87
15 88.1% Jew_Tat + 11.9% Portugese @ 4.9
16 78.3% Jew_Tat + 21.7% Sicilian @ 4.95
17 89.7% Jew_Tat + 10.3% French_South @ 5
18 88.3% Jew_Tat + 11.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.05
19 87.9% Jew_Tat + 12.1% Occitan @ 5.09
20 89.7% Jew_Tat + 10.3% French @ 5.11

NK19191
08-24-2014, 02:42 PM
Comparing My mother's result and mine.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent ---- Me
1 Caucasian 26.77 ----- 30.31
2 South_Central_Asian 20.09 ----- 18.65
3 Mediterranean 19.61 ----- 17.67
4 Afroasiatic 10.59 -----10.59
5 South_Indian 4.91 ------5.31
6 North_West_European 4.13 ----- 2.01
7 East_European 3.51 -------5.35
8 Roma 2.83 ------1.51
9 East_Siberian 2.79 ------1.35
10 Volga-Uralic 2.41 -----3.04
11 East_African 0.77 -----0.96
12 Melano-Austronesian 0.63 ------0.22
13 South_East_Asian 0.38 -----1.68
14 Arctic 0.35 ------0.71
15 Amerindian 0.24---- 0

Humanist
08-24-2014, 03:55 PM
The second Iraqi Mandaean is noticeably more "Afroasiatic" than both me and the first Iraqi Mandaean:


Huma IQM1 IQM2
27.6 27.55 25.39 Caucasian
0 0.32 0.18 Melano-Austronesian
0.09 0 1.1 Volga-Uralic
2.41 0.84 0 East_Siberian
0 0 0 West_Siberian
17.75 17.95 18.62 South_Central_Asian
1.4 1.86 1.18 South_Indian
2.87 2.63 1.89 North_West_European
0 0.006 0.4 Sami-Finnic
0.1 0 0 South_East_Asian
0.24 0 0 Archaic_African
25.92 26.9 27.13 Mediterranean
0.01 0.92 0.63 Arctic
15.43 16.04 18.77 Afroasiatic
1.71 0.01 0 East_European
3.8 3.35 2.6 Roma
0.42 0.73 1.25 East_African
0.25 0.84 0.86 Amerindian

ZephyrousMandaru
08-24-2014, 04:45 PM
The second Iraqi Mandaean is noticeably more "Afroasiatic" than both me and the first Iraqi Mandaean:


Huma IQM1 IQM2
27.6 27.55 25.39 Caucasian
0 0.32 0.18 Melano-Austronesian
0.09 0 1.1 Volga-Uralic
2.41 0.84 0 East_Siberian
0 0 0 West_Siberian
17.75 17.95 18.62 South_Central_Asian
1.4 1.86 1.18 South_Indian
2.87 2.63 1.89 North_West_European
0 0.006 0.4 Sami-Finnic
0.1 0 0 South_East_Asian
0.24 0 0 Archaic_African
25.92 26.9 27.13 Mediterranean
0.01 0.92 0.63 Arctic
15.43 16.04 18.77 Afroasiatic
1.71 0.01 0 East_European
3.8 3.35 2.6 Roma
0.42 0.73 1.25 East_African
0.25 0.84 0.86 Amerindian

He also has 1.25% East_African, I wonder if it's real.

Humanist
08-24-2014, 05:08 PM
He also has 1.25% East_African, I wonder if it's real.

That particular Mandaean always seems to register a bit of "African." I would not doubt that it is genuine, since we know that even some of the non-Arab and non-Muslim groups of the Levant have a modest amount of "African," namely the Israelite Samaritans and Yemeni Jews. And, given their location for the better part of the last 1500-2000 years (i.e. S. Iraq), it is not unreasonable to imagine that a smidgen of "African" (via the Levant?) may have entered their collective genome.

BMG
08-24-2014, 06:36 PM
My results through gedmatch

Caucasian 6.88
Melano-Austronesian 1.47
Volga-Uralic 0.36
East_Siberian 2.38
West_Siberian
South_Central_Asian 29.48
South_Indian 46.57
North_West_European 1.17
Sami-Finnic 0.18
South_East_Asian 2.96
Archaic_African
Mediterranean
Arctic 0.23
Afroasiatic 0.57
East_European 1.43
Roma 4.98
East_African 0.44
Amerindian 0.90

Alpine Hominin
08-24-2014, 06:54 PM
I'd been waiting for Gedmatch to come back online to check out the new calculator. Here are my results:

Oracle:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 37
2 East_European 26.35
3 Mediterranean 10.5
4 Caucasian 8.06
5 Volga-Uralic 3.77
6 Sami-Finnic 3.34
7 Roma 2.92
8 South_Central_Asian 1.96
9 West_Siberian 1.69
10 East_African 1.1
11 South_Indian 1.03
12 Archaic_African 0.64
13 Arctic 0.55
14 Amerindian 0.46
15 Melano-Austronesian 0.25
16 Afroasiatic 0.21
17 East_Siberian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South-German 5.91
2 N._European 6.66
3 Belgian 8.18
4 North_German 9.5
5 Mixed_European 9.54
6 Welsh 10.2
7 CEU 10.35
8 French 11.09
9 Swede 11.14
10 Mixed_German 11.23
11 Austrian 12.14
12 Cornish 12.64
13 British_Kent 12.83
14 Swedish 12.93
15 Scottish_Argyll 14.88
16 Orcadian 15.45
17 Occitan 16.54
18 Spanish_Extremadura 19.34
19 British 19.35
20 Norwegian 19.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.2% CEU + 26.8% Serb_Serbia @ 3.09
2 64.1% Orcadian + 35.9% Serb_Serbia @ 3.22
3 78.4% N._European + 21.6% German @ 3.23
4 54.1% South-German + 45.9% N._European @ 3.24
5 60.8% N._European + 39.2% Mixed_European @ 3.34
6 68.6% Swede + 31.4% North_Italian @ 3.36
7 54.2% Mixed_European + 45.8% French @ 3.36
8 87.1% N._European + 12.9% Mordovians @ 3.4
9 75% South-German + 25% Scottish_Argyll @ 3.4
10 67% N._European + 33% Austrian @ 3.4
11 87.4% N._European + 12.6% Ukrainian @ 3.41
12 87.2% N._European + 12.8% Mordovian @ 3.43
13 72.5% CEU + 27.5% Montenegrian @ 3.46
14 88% N._European + 12% South-Russian @ 3.52
15 81% N._European + 19% Czech @ 3.52
16 70.6% Swede + 29.4% Corsican @ 3.54
17 65.1% Scottish_Argyll + 34.9% Serb_Serbia @ 3.55
18 69% Cornish + 31% Serb_Serbia @ 3.55
19 58.6% British + 41.4% Serb_Serbia @ 3.56
20 73.8% Welsh + 26.2% Croat_BH @ 3.57


Oracle - 4:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 37.00
2 East_European 26.35
3 Mediterranean 10.50
4 Caucasian 8.06
5 Volga-Uralic 3.77
6 Sami-Finnic 3.34
7 Roma 2.92
8 South_Central_Asian 1.96
9 West_Siberian 1.69
10 East_African 1.10
11 South_Indian 1.03


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 6.558880
2 N._European @ 7.350195
3 Belgian @ 9.023287
4 North_German @ 10.612035
5 Mixed_European @ 10.681746
6 Welsh @ 11.344974
7 CEU @ 11.455471
8 Mixed_German @ 12.156791
9 Swede @ 12.319692
10 French @ 12.369686
11 Austrian @ 13.570579
12 Cornish @ 14.030205
13 Swedish @ 14.136666
14 British_Kent @ 14.228519
15 Scottish_Argyll @ 16.550449
16 Orcadian @ 17.083517
17 Occitan @ 18.304449
18 Spanish_Extremadura @ 21.366079
19 British @ 21.438606
20 Norwegian @ 21.516306

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% N._European +50% South-German @ 3.533295


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Scottish_Argyll +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% Ukranians @ 2.530428


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukranians @ 2.315881
2 British + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian @ 2.326898
3 British + Don_cossack + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.327740
4 German + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Swede @ 2.342803
5 British + Mixed_East_Slav + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.414427
6 Polish + Scottish_Argyll + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.505721
7 Don_cossack + Scottish_Argyll + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.522901
8 Scottish_Argyll + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukranians @ 2.530428
9 British + British_Kent + Mordovians + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.548594
10 British + Scottish_Argyll + South-Russian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.551351
11 British + British_Kent + Russian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.561914
12 Scottish_Argyll + Scottish_Argyll + Sorbs + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.566006
13 British_Kent + Mordovians + Spanish_Cataluna + Welsh @ 2.611570
14 British_Kent + Mixed_East_Slav + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.617129
15 German + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Swedish @ 2.627467
16 Scottish_Argyll + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian @ 2.632260
17 Croatian + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Cataluna + Swede @ 2.657527
18 British + Cornish + Mordovians + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.671337
19 Don_cossack + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.680008
20 Bosnian + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Cataluna + Swede @ 2.684627

leonardo
08-24-2014, 08:35 PM
# Population Percent
1 East_European 29.37
2 North_West_European 28.61
3 Mediterranean 13.98
4 Caucasian 8.91
5 South_Central_Asian 4.78
6 Sami-Finnic 3.23
7 Roma 2.42
8 Volga-Uralic 2.16
9 Afroasiatic 1.75
10 South_Indian 1.35
11 West_Siberian 1.23
12 Arctic 1.03
13 Amerindian 0.86
14 East_Siberian 0.21
15 Archaic_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 4.91
2 South-German 5.11

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60% Swede + 40% Kosovar @ 2.22
2 61.5% Swede + 38.5% Greek @ 2.46
3 75.6% North_German + 24.4% Romanian_Jews @ 2.54
4 55.9% Serb_Serbia + 44.1% Orcadian @ 2.54
5 80.8% Austrian + 19.2% Occitan @ 2.57

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU +50% Serb_Serbia @ 2.873678


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belgian +25% Gagauz +25% German @ 2.396249


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Central-Greek + Mixed_CEU + N._European + North_German @ 1.678904
2 Central-Greek + N._European + Slovak + Swedish @ 1.731483
3 Hungarians + Kosovar + N._European + Swedish @ 1.772091

mnd
08-24-2014, 10:42 PM
My dad's results:

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 30.25
2 Caucasian 22.69
3 Afroasiatic 12.24
4 North_West_European 10.61
5 South_Central_Asian 6.93
6 East_European 6.13
7 Roma 4.24
8 East_African 1.35
9 East_Siberian 1.26
10 Archaic_African 1.25
11 South_East_Asian 0.98
12 South_Indian 0.74
13 Arctic 0.54
14 Amerindian 0.51
15 Volga-Uralic 0.21
16 Sami-Finnic 0.08

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek-Islands 8.77
2 Cypriots 10.05
3 Cretan 10.44
4 Sicilian 10.77
5 Azov_Greek 11.6
6 Syrian_Jew 11.64
7 Sephardic_Jews 12.07
8 Turks 12.98
9 North_Greek 13.15
10 Italian_Abruzzo 13.23
11 Central-Greek 13.41
12 Romanian_Jews 14.04
13 Syrians 14.53
14 Moroccan_Jews 14.92
15 Tunisian_Jew 15.34
16 Morocco_Jew 15.54
17 Jew_Tat 15.62
18 Italian_Jew 16.01
19 Uzbekistani_Jews 16.13
20 Kurd_Jew

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.3% Sicilian + 44.7% Turks @ 4.19
2 84.3% Cypriots + 15.7% Swedish @ 4.35
3 83.2% Cypriots + 16.8% Mixed_German @ 4.39
4 60.4% Sicilian + 39.6% Jew_Tat @ 4.42
5 84.4% Cypriots + 15.6% Orcadian @ 4.43
6 85.2% Cypriots + 14.8% Norwegian @ 4.45
7 85.2% Cypriots + 14.8% British @ 4.5
8 83.3% Cypriots + 16.7% CEU @ 4.5
9 83.5% Cypriots + 16.5% British_Kent @ 4.52
10 83% Cypriots + 17% Welsh @ 4.59
11 84% Cypriots + 16% Swede @ 4.62
12 84.2% Cypriots + 15.8% Scottish_Argyll @ 4.63
13 83.7% Cypriots + 16.3% Cornish @ 4.64
14 75.6% Sephardic_Jews + 24.4% Stalskoe @ 4.68
15 68% Moroccan_Jews + 32% Cirkassian @ 4.76
16 82.6% Cypriots + 17.4% Belgian @ 4.81
17 54.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 45.3% Jew_Tat @ 4.81
18 61.5% Sicilian + 38.5% Uzbekistani_Jews @ 4.82
19 83.3% Cypriots + 16.7% North_German @ 4.85
20 81.1% Syrian_Jew + 18.9% British_Kent @ 4.88

He is notably less Mediterranean and more NW European than the eastern Mediterranean reference populations, which makes me think that - at least in calculator form - the boundary between the two components is blurred.

Agamemnon
08-25-2014, 01:21 AM
# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 24.26
2 Mediterranean 21.5
3 East_European 19.71
4 Caucasian 11.61
5 Afroasiatic 5.82
6 South_Central_Asian 5.65
7 Volga-Uralic 3.54
8 Roma 2.23
9 Sami-Finnic 2.04
10 Arctic 1.27
11 South_Indian 1.06
12 West_Siberian 0.45
13 East_African 0.4
14 Archaic_African 0.29
15 Melano-Austronesian 0.1
16 South_East_Asian 0.06

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Piedmont 11.07
2 Toscani 13.51
3 Occitan 13.69
4 Kosovar 13.8
5 Greek 14.07
6 North_Italian 14.39
7 South-German 15.4
8 Austrian 15.49
9 South_Greek 15.53
10 Italian_Abruzzo 15.54
11 Central-Greek 16.17
12 Spanish_Extremadura 16.41
13 Montenegrian 16.81
14 Macedonian 16.96
15 Bulgarians 17.04
16 Corsican 17.25
17 Gagauz 17.36
18 North_Greek 17.43
19 Portugese 17.99
20 Sicilian 18.29

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.6% North_German + 46.4% Sephardic_Jews @ 2.34
2 50.4% Swede + 49.6% Sephardic_Jews @ 2.38
3 63.4% South-German + 36.6% Sephardic_Jews @ 2.45
4 52.8% Swede + 47.2% Italian_Jew @ 2.67
5 52% Romanian_Jews + 48% Mixed_German @ 2.73
6 52.3% Sicilian + 47.7% Mixed_European @ 2.8
7 65.7% South-German + 34.3% Italian_Jew @ 2.81
8 57.1% Mixed_European + 42.9% Sephardic_Jews @ 2.84
9 56% North_German + 44% Italian_Jew @ 2.95
10 66.7% South-German + 33.3% Tunisian_Jew @ 3.08
11 67.6% South-German + 32.4% Syrian_Jew @ 3.08
12 70.4% South-German + 29.6% Druze @ 3.17
13 55.1% Romanian_Jews + 44.9% Swedish @ 3.2
14 64.6% South-German + 35.4% Moroccan_Jews @ 3.2
15 55.8% Sicilian + 44.2% North_German @ 3.28
16 65.3% South-German + 34.7% Morocco_Jew @ 3.3
17 58.9% Mixed_European + 41.1% Morocco_Jew @ 3.38
18 58.2% Mixed_European + 41.8% Moroccan_Jews @ 3.39
19 53.2% North_Greek + 46.8% N._European @ 3.41
20 54.5% South-German + 45.5% Sicilian @ 3.46

AJL
08-25-2014, 02:47 AM
Mine are nearly identical to Agamemnon's.


Caucasian 10.33%
Melano-Austronesian 0.43%
Volga-Uralic 1.03%
East_Siberian 0.20%
West_Siberian 0.82%
South_Central_Asian 5.12%
South_Indian 0.21%
North_West_European 24.50%
Sami-Finnic 3.37%
South_East_Asian 0.06%
Archaic_African -
Mediterranean 24.91%
Arctic 1.35%
Afroasiatic 5.28%
East_European 18.84%
Roma 1.68%
East_African 0.99%
Amerindian 0.88%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Piedmont 8.66
2 Toscani 11.6
3 North_Italian 12.31
4 Kosovar 12.41
5 Occitan 12.93
6 Greek 12.96
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.85
8 South_Greek 14.38
9 Central-Greek 14.98
10 Corsican 15.05
11 Spanish_Extremadura 15.46
12 Sicilian 16.41
13 North_Greek 16.43
14 Portugese 16.82
15 Macedonian 17.04
16 Montenegrian 17.21
17 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 17.41
18 Bulgarians 17.46
19 South-German 17.54
20 Gagauz 17.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51% Italian_Jew + 49% Swede @ 2.61
2 60.9% South-German + 39.1% Italian_Jew @ 2.96
3 52.4% Ashkenazy_Jews + 47.6% Mixed_German @ 3.11
4 52.7% Italian_Jew + 47.3% Swedish @ 3.14
5 59.4% South-German + 40.6% Moroccan_Jews @ 3.22
6 52.2% Romanian_Jews + 47.8% Belgian @ 3.26
7 55.4% Ashkenazy_Jews + 44.6% Swedish @ 3.27
8 51.8% North_German + 48.2% Italian_Jew @ 3.32
9 51.7% Swedish + 48.3% French_Jew @ 3.33
10 51.2% Belgian + 48.8% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 3.36
11 58.6% South-German + 41.4% Sephardic_Jews @ 3.44
12 60.3% South-German + 39.7% Morocco_Jew @ 3.44
13 53.5% Sephardic_Jews + 46.5% Swede @ 3.46
14 62% South-German + 38% Tunisian_Jew @ 3.55
15 54.7% Mixed_German + 45.3% French_Jew @ 3.56
16 82.9% Italian_Piedmont + 17.1% Finn @ 3.64
17 50.3% North_German + 49.7% Moroccan_Jews @ 3.7
18 50.6% Sephardic_Jews + 49.4% North_German @ 3.72
19 55.8% Romanian_Jews + 44.2% Mixed_German @ 3.73
20 64.5% South-German + 35.5% Libyan_Jew @ 3.74

Joe B
08-25-2014, 04:11 AM
# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 28.13
2 East_European 25.64
3 Mediterranean 13.83
4 Caucasian 13.13
5 South_Central_Asian 5.36
6 Sami-Finnic 2.83
7 Volga-Uralic 2.79
8 Roma 2.6
9 Afroasiatic 2.27
10 East_Siberian 1.59
11 East_African 0.97
12 Amerindian 0.4
13 Melano-Austronesian 0.3
14 Archaic_African 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South-German 7.51
2 Austrian 8.51
3 Mixed_European 11.54
4 North_German 14.29
5 N._European 14.4
6 Belgian 15.74
7 Hungarians 15.91
8 French 16.48
9 Occitan 16.56
10 Swede 17.11
11 Welsh 18.19
12 Montenegrian 18.19
13 Mixed_German 18.56
14 CEU 18.67
15 German 18.94
16 Slovenian 19.13
17 Italian_Piedmont 19.27
18 Bulgarians 19.56
19 Macedonian 19.71
20 Swedish 19.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.2% South-German + 14.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.39
2 83.1% South-German + 16.9% Turks @ 2.67
3 79.1% South-German + 20.9% Azov_Greek @ 2.71
4 86.4% South-German + 13.6% Armenian_Yerevan @ 2.8
5 85.8% South-German + 14.2% Turkish_Adana @ 3.09
6 84.8% South-German + 15.2% Azeri @ 3.14
7 67.4% Swede + 32.6% Greek-Islands @ 3.21
8 79.3% South-German + 20.7% Crimean_Tatar @ 3.31
9 88.6% South-German + 11.4% Georgian_Laz @ 3.31
10 52.7% Gagauz + 47.3% Orcadian @ 3.33
11 51.2% British_Kent + 48.8% Gagauz @ 3.37
12 85.1% South-German + 14.9% Azeri_Dagestan @ 3.37
13 56.3% Gagauz + 43.7% British @ 3.38
14 51.7% Gagauz + 48.3% Scottish_Argyll @ 3.46
15 53.4% CEU + 46.6% Gagauz @ 3.48
16 86.4% South-German + 13.6% Jew_Tat @ 3.5
17 85.6% South-German + 14.4% Kumyks @ 3.53
18 88.6% South-German + 11.4% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.53
19 67% Swede + 33% Cretan @ 3.54
20 65.6% North_German + 34.4% Azov_Greek @ 3.55

Boaimmas
08-25-2014, 07:57 AM
Hello,

I just want to share my results. I´m ca 55-60% saami and the rest North Swedish by heritage.

Caucasian 2.37%
Melano-Austronesian 0.86%
Volga-Uralic 4.73%
East_Siberian 1.01%
West_Siberian 3.37%
South_Central_Asian 1.98%
South_Indian 1.34%
North_West_European 17.84%
Sami-Finnic 29.14%
Mediterranean 4.22%
Arctic 2.51%
Afroasiatic 1.66%
East_European 27.53%
Roma 1.44%

I checked out the reference population for saami in MDLP and realized that it seems to have way to high in sami-finnic % compared to the saami results i´ve seen in different calculators. The saami individuals that i´ve runned in the tests usually have around 45-52% Sami-Finnic and around 20-25% volga-ural/Siberia/amerindia+ arctic. The remaining % East_European and North_West_ European. I´m curious to know what reference samples used in this calculator.

Shaikorth
08-25-2014, 08:12 AM
Hello,

I just want to share my results. I´m ca 55-60% saami and the rest North Swedish by heritage.

Caucasian 2.37%
Melano-Austronesian 0.86%
Volga-Uralic 4.73%
East_Siberian 1.01%
West_Siberian 3.37%
South_Central_Asian 1.98%
South_Indian 1.34%
North_West_European 17.84%
Sami-Finnic 29.14%
Mediterranean 4.22%
Arctic 2.51%
Afroasiatic 1.66%
East_European 27.53%
Roma 1.44%

I checked out the reference population for saami in MDLP and realized that it seems to have way to high in sami-finnic % compared to the saami results i´ve tested in different calculators. The saami individuals that i´ve runned in the tests usually have around 45-52% Sami-Finnic and around 20-25% volga-ural/Siberia/amerindia+ arctic. The remaining % East_European and North_West_ European. I´m curious to know what reference samples used in this calculator.

That is caused by the so-called calculator effect. The people who were not included in the initial run when Vadim Verenich created the calculator will get different results from the references. This is not restricted to Saamis but also affects Assyrians, British, pretty much everyone. It would be useful if someone posted results of some full saami individuals who weren't in the initial run, because they would make better references for most people using this calculator and Verenich said he's collecting such results because of this.

Boaimmas
08-25-2014, 08:23 AM
Thanks for your reply!

In other calculators and in scientifical reports i´ve read north saami individuals have a eastern NA admix of around 20-25% in MDLP reference population only 6-7% (in this one i have between 12-13% dependent of how you count). That´s why i´m a bit confused. Yes, I hope we get some more saami admix results soon.

Boaimmas
08-25-2014, 08:34 AM
Here´s the results of a north-saami individual with mostly saami heritage:

Caucasian 1.25%
Melano-Austronesian 0.55%
Volga_Uralic 8.29%
East-Siberian 3.60
West_Siberian 6.62%
Sout_Central_Asian 0.75%
South_Indian 0.36%
North_West_European 7.70%
Sami-Finnic 52.71%
Arctic 1.68%
East_European 15.99%
East_African 0.47%

Shaikorth
08-25-2014, 08:40 AM
Thanks for your reply!

In other calculators and in scientifical reports i´ve read north saami individuals have a eastern NA admix of around 20-25% in MDLP reference population only 6-7% (in this one i have between 12-13% dependent of how you count). That´s why i´m a bit confused. Yes, I hope we get some more saami admix results soon.

That happens because MDLP is the only calculator to use Saami references. Saamis, Sardinians and Basques are populations who tend to form their own component rather easily but when they are not included in the initial run at all those components won't form and that results in testers getting a breakdown of other components instead. Sardinians would get more North African or Southwest Asian without a Sardinian centric mediterranean component, and Saamis get more Siberian without a Saami centric component.

The results of those Saami individuals you've run through this test would probably make decent references for this calculator because they weren't in the initial run.

Boaimmas
08-25-2014, 08:50 AM
Here is another:

Volga_uralic 7.43%
East_Siberian 3.53%
West_Siberian 4.23%
South_Central_Asian 0.85%
South_Indian 1.48%
North_West_European 8.27%
Sami_Finnic 45.16%
Archaic_African 0.15%
Mediterranean 0.75%
Arctic 1.48%
Afroasiatic 0.74%
East_European 21.78%
Roma 1.88%
Amerindian 1.27%

Invisible Sun
08-25-2014, 11:56 AM
Mine. Does anyone know what´s Kuban cossack autosomal background?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 28.22
2 North_West_European 20
3 Caucasian 16.54
4 East_European 12.62
5 Afroasiatic 9.98
6 South_Central_Asian 3.96
7 Roma 2.81
8 East_African 2.02
9 Sami-Finnic 1.76
10 East_Siberian 0.84
11 Archaic_African 0.7
12 Arctic 0.38
13 Amerindian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 6.96
2 Sicilian 8.04
3 Toscani 9.69
4 Italian_Piedmont 9.77
5 Central-Greek 10.33
6 South_Greek 11.24
7 Greek 11.46
8 North_Greek 11.52
9 Kosovar 13.01
10 Azov_Greek 15.35
11 North_Italian 15.38
12 Romanian_Jews 15.66
13 Greek-Islands 16.35
14 Sephardic_Jews 16.53
15 Cretan 16.56
16 Corsican 16.58
17 Moroccan_Jews 18.02
18 Morocco_Jew 18.73
19 Crimean_Tatar 18.79
20 Gagauz 18.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.3% Cypriots + 38.7% Belgian @ 3.56
2 78.2% Sicilian + 21.8% Austrian @ 3.66
3 81.1% Sicilian + 18.9% Mixed_European @ 3.67
4 83.6% Sicilian + 16.4% Swede @ 3.68
5 82.5% Sicilian + 17.5% North_German @ 3.73
6 63.6% Cypriots + 36.4% Mixed_German @ 3.75
7 72.6% Italian_Piedmont + 27.4% Syrians @ 3.84
8 84.4% Sicilian + 15.6% Swedish @ 3.88
9 78.6% Sicilian + 21.4% South-German @ 3.89
10 59.9% Cypriots + 40.1% N._European @ 3.97
11 72.1% Cretan + 27.9% Norwegian @ 3.98
12 73.7% Italian_Piedmont + 26.3% Jordanians @ 4.06
13 84.1% Sicilian + 15.9% Mixed_CEU @ 4.07
14 68.4% Greek-Islands + 31.6% Mixed_German @ 4.09
15 63.7% Cypriots + 36.3% CEU @ 4.14
16 62.9% Cypriots + 37.1% Welsh @ 4.19
17 83.4% Sicilian + 16.6% German @ 4.23
18 90.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 9.6% Kuban_cossack @ 4.31
19 75.4% Italian_Piedmont + 24.6% Iraki @ 4.32
20 90.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 9.6% Karelian @ 4.34

icebreaker
08-25-2014, 12:11 PM
23andme -file

Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.81
2 Mediterranean 22.65
3 South_Central_Asian 12.36
4 Afroasiatic 7.5
5 North_West_European 7.06
6 Roma 4.16
7 South_East_Asian 3.9
8 East_Siberian 3.15
9 Volga-Uralic 2.46
10 West_Siberian 2.39
11 Sami-Finnic 1.32
12 Archaic_African 1.2
13 East_European 0.97
14 South_Indian 0.81
15 Arctic 0.66
16 Amerindian 0.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks 5.18
2 Azeri 9.35
3 Turkish_Kayseri 12.86
4 Jew_Tat 13.11
5 Kurds 13.13
6 Azov_Greek 13.72
7 Uzbekistan_Jew 14.14
8 Uzbekistani_Jews 14.35
9 Armenian_Yerevan 14.48
10 Iranians 14.87
11 Kurd 15
12 Turkish_Adana 15.21
13 Kurd_Jew 15.83
14 Turkish_Aydin 16.94
15 Crimean_Tatar 17.01
16 Iran_Jew 17.04
17 Azeri_Dagestan 17.73
18 Greek-Islands 17.85
19 Iraki 17.9
20 Cypriots 18.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.3% Turks + 9.7% Uzbek @ 4.27
2 86.3% Turks + 13.7% Turkmens @ 4.31
3 92.9% Turks + 7.1% Hazara @ 4.39
4 95.4% Turks + 4.6% French_Basque @ 4.39
5 90.6% Turks + 9.4% Tadjik @ 4.4
6 93% Turks + 7% Uygur @ 4.41
7 94.4% Turks + 5.6% Nepalese @ 4.46
8 95.4% Turks + 4.6% Brahui @ 4.46
9 90.3% Turks + 9.7% Tajiks @ 4.48
10 96.6% Turks + 3.4% Malay @ 4.48
11 90.2% Turks + 9.8% Turkmen @ 4.48
12 95.2% Turks + 4.8% Makrani @ 4.48
13 95.3% Turks + 4.7% Balochi @ 4.49
14 94.2% Turks + 5.8% Parsi @ 4.51
15 94.5% Turks + 5.5% Shor @ 4.52
16 93.5% Turks + 6.5% Puerto-Rican @ 4.53
17 93.2% Turks + 6.8% Uyghur @ 4.54
18 94% Turks + 6% Burusho @ 4.54
19 95.2% Turks + 4.8% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.54
20 96.9% Turks + 3.1% Mon @ 4.55


Oracle-4
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.81
2 Mediterranean 22.65
3 South_Central_Asian 12.36
4 Afroasiatic 7.50
5 North_West_European 7.06
6 Roma 4.16
7 South_East_Asian 3.90
8 East_Siberian 3.15
9 Volga-Uralic 2.46
10 West_Siberian 2.39
11 Sami-Finnic 1.32
12 Archaic_African 1.20


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 5.709771
2 Azeri @ 10.447437
3 Turkish_Kayseri @ 14.253908
4 Jew_Tat @ 14.267921
5 Kurds @ 14.601501
6 Azov_Greek @ 15.363561
7 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 15.551406
8 Uzbekistani_Jews @ 15.597871
9 Armenian_Yerevan @ 16.098209
10 Iranians @ 16.417261
11 Kurd @ 16.788363
12 Turkish_Adana @ 17.204447
13 Kurd_Jew @ 17.315870
14 Turkish_Aydin @ 18.616848
15 Iran_Jew @ 18.666777
16 Crimean_Tatar @ 19.216501
17 Iraki @ 19.430967
18 Greek-Islands @ 19.538155
19 Azeri_Dagestan @ 19.726051
20 Cypriots @ 19.964796

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turks +50% Turks @ 5.709771


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Yerevan +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Turkmen @ 4.577225


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Imereti + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.738775
2 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.779118
3 Georgian_Laz + Kurds + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.843023
4 Georgian_Laz + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.860897
5 Georgian_Laz + Sephardic_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.942766
6 Georgian_Laz + Kurd + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.948559
7 Georgians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.957181
8 Georgian_Imereti + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.957942
9 Georgian_Laz + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.019493
10 Abhkasians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.069970
11 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.084791
12 Georgian_Imereti + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.125478
13 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.157042
14 Georgian_Laz + Iranians + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 4.157659
15 Georgians + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.159334
16 Moroccan_Jews + Ossetian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.160845
17 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Kurds + Turkmen @ 4.175020
18 Abhkasians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.184089
19 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.208298
20 Georgians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.210742

FtDNA-file

Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.73
2 Mediterranean 22.66
3 South_Central_Asian 12.36
4 Afroasiatic 7.5
5 North_West_European 7.15
6 Roma 4.07
7 East_Siberian 3.39
8 South_East_Asian 3.38
9 Volga-Uralic 2.5
10 West_Siberian 2.33
11 Archaic_African 1.29
12 Sami-Finnic 1.21
13 South_Indian 0.99
14 East_European 0.84
15 Arctic 0.82
16 Amerindian 0.75
17 East_African 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks 5.21
2 Azeri 9.37
3 Turkish_Kayseri 12.96
4 Kurds 13.09
5 Jew_Tat 13.12
6 Azov_Greek 13.75
7 Uzbekistan_Jew 14.16
8 Uzbekistani_Jews 14.29
9 Armenian_Yerevan 14.5
10 Iranians 14.81
11 Kurd 14.98
12 Turkish_Adana 15.19
13 Kurd_Jew 15.79
14 Turkish_Aydin 16.82
15 Iran_Jew 17
16 Crimean_Tatar 17.08
17 Azeri_Dagestan 17.78
18 Greek-Islands 17.84
19 Iraki 17.85
20 Cypriots 18.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.4% Turks + 9.6% Uzbek @ 4.31
2 95.2% Turks + 4.8% French_Basque @ 4.34
3 86.5% Turks + 13.5% Turkmens @ 4.37
4 90.5% Turks + 9.5% Tadjik @ 4.4
5 93.1% Turks + 6.9% Puerto-Rican @ 4.45
6 95.3% Turks + 4.7% Brahui @ 4.46
7 95.1% Turks + 4.9% Makrani @ 4.48
8 95.2% Turks + 4.8% Balochi @ 4.48
9 93.2% Turks + 6.8% Hazara @ 4.48
10 90.2% Turks + 9.8% Tajiks @ 4.48
11 94.4% Turks + 5.6% Nepalese @ 4.49
12 94.1% Turks + 5.9% Parsi @ 4.5
13 95% Turks + 5% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.5
14 93.8% Turks + 6.2% Burusho @ 4.53
15 90.3% Turks + 9.7% Turkmen @ 4.53
16 94.5% Turks + 5.5% Shor @ 4.53
17 94.3% Turks + 5.7% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 4.54
18 94.7% Turks + 5.3% Sindhi @ 4.55
19 93.5% Turks + 6.5% Uygur @ 4.55
20 94.9% Turks + 5.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.57


Oracle-4
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.73
2 Mediterranean 22.66
3 South_Central_Asian 12.36
4 Afroasiatic 7.50
5 North_West_European 7.15
6 Roma 4.07
7 East_Siberian 3.39
8 South_East_Asian 3.38
9 Volga-Uralic 2.50
10 West_Siberian 2.33
11 Archaic_African 1.29
12 Sami-Finnic 1.21


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 5.739826
2 Azeri @ 10.466161
3 Jew_Tat @ 14.267959
4 Turkish_Kayseri @ 14.368587
5 Kurds @ 14.551397
6 Azov_Greek @ 15.405555
7 Uzbekistani_Jews @ 15.531707
8 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 15.565109
9 Armenian_Yerevan @ 16.117292
10 Iranians @ 16.348841
11 Kurd @ 16.765196
12 Turkish_Adana @ 17.189079
13 Kurd_Jew @ 17.276716
14 Turkish_Aydin @ 18.522394
15 Iran_Jew @ 18.612484
16 Crimean_Tatar @ 19.295938
17 Iraki @ 19.376579
18 Greek-Islands @ 19.514032
19 Azeri_Dagestan @ 19.773687
20 Cypriots @ 19.913641

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turks +50% Turks @ 5.739826


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Yerevan +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Turkmen @ 4.560082


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Imereti + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.808915
2 Georgian_Laz + Kurds + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.869295
3 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.880846
4 Georgian_Laz + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.913694
5 Georgian_Laz + Kurd + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.986017
6 Georgian_Imereti + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.008128
7 Georgian_Laz + Sephardic_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.017781
8 Georgians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.025112
9 Georgian_Laz + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.056574
10 Abhkasians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.135280
11 Georgian_Imereti + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.136798
12 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.141987
13 Georgian_Laz + Iranians + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 4.158431
14 Abhkasians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.191814
15 Moroccan_Jews + Ossetian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.192041
16 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Kurds + Turkmen @ 4.194941
17 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.206491
18 Georgians + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.217964
19 Armenian_Yerevan + Azeri_Dagestan + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.220737
20 Georgians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.221984

Scarlet Ibis
08-25-2014, 04:20 PM
A lot of New Worlders with mixed European backgrounds seem to be getting "South German" as their first reference population.

Anyway, here are mine

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_East_Asian 38.94
2 North_West_European 19.23
3 East_European 14.24
4 East_Siberian 12.53
5 Mediterranean 4.82
6 Caucasian 2.57
7 Volga-Uralic 2.16
8 South_Central_Asian 1.62
9 Roma 1.59




Using 1 population approximation:
1 Uygur @ 26.446707
2 Karakalpak @ 28.051836
3 Kazakhs @ 28.290491
4 Uyghur @ 29.112875
5 Kyrgyzians @ 29.720234


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Korean +50% South-German @ 4.222213


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Korean +25% N._European +25% North_German @ 2.414318


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Korean + Korean + N._European + North_German @ 2.414318
2 Korean + Korean + Mixed_European + N._European @ 2.535671
3 Japanese + Korean + N._European + North_German @ 2.663120
4 Japanese + Korean + Mixed_European + N._European @ 2.778340
5 French + Korean + Korean + North_German @ 2.810242

Gray Fox
08-25-2014, 05:44 PM
I guess I'll toss my hat into the ring as well.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 36.51
2 East_European 26.59
3 Mediterranean 8.42
4 Caucasian 8.1
5 Sami-Finnic 4.66
6 South_Central_Asian 4.45
7 Roma 3.23
8 West_Siberian 2.41
9 Afroasiatic 1.83
10 South_Indian 0.84
11 East_African 0.74
12 Volga-Uralic 0.74
13 Melano-Austronesian 0.52
14 Amerindian 0.52
15 Archaic_African 0.43

Oracle run:

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 South-German 6.17
2 Belgian 7.43
3 N._European 7.82
4 North_German 8.42
5 Mixed_European 9.01
6 Swede 9.44
7 Mixed_German 9.85
8 Welsh 9.89
9 CEU 10.06
10 Swedish 10.67
11 Austrian 12.13
12 Cornish 12.38
13 French 12.49
14 British_Kent 12.55
15 Orcadian 14.97
16 Scottish_Argyll 15.14
17 Occitan 17.78
18 Norwegian 18.5
19 British 19.01
20 Mixed_CEU 20.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.2% Swede + 33.8% Occitan @ 3.02
2 75.2% Swede + 24.8% Corsican @ 3.07
3 63.6% Belgian + 36.4% Austrian @ 3.29
4 71.5% Swedish + 28.5% Italian_Piedmont @ 3.29
5 75.6% Swede + 24.4% Toscani @ 3.39
6 71.7% Swede + 28.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.44
7 68.9% Welsh + 31.1% Hungarians @ 3.45
8 56.3% South-German + 43.7% Belgian @ 3.47
9 55.6% Welsh + 44.4% Austrian @ 3.48
10 75.7% Belgian + 24.3% Hungarians @ 3.48
11 78.5% Belgian + 21.5% Czech @ 3.48
12 79.9% Belgian + 20.1% Croatian @ 3.53
13 76.3% Belgian + 23.7% German @ 3.55
14 74.1% Welsh + 25.9% Bosnian @ 3.55
15 74.1% Swede + 25.9% North_Italian @ 3.56
16 55.9% Belgian + 44.1% Mixed_European @ 3.57
17 80.7% Belgian + 19.3% Slovak @ 3.58
18 80.2% Belgian + 19.8% Bosnian @ 3.6
19 85.6% Belgian + 14.4% Mordovian @ 3.61
20 85.6% Belgian + 14.4% Mordovians @ 3.61


Oracle 4 run:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 6.792809
2 Belgian @ 8.216910
3 N._European @ 8.702498
4 North_German @ 9.442237
5 Mixed_European @ 10.135743
6 Swede @ 10.495561
7 Mixed_German @ 10.650255
8 Welsh @ 11.008303
9 CEU @ 11.195427
10 Swedish @ 11.652386
11 Austrian @ 13.499134
12 Cornish @ 13.783958
13 French @ 13.905761
14 British_Kent @ 13.961749
15 Orcadian @ 16.644625
16 Scottish_Argyll @ 17.024811
17 Occitan @ 19.579533
18 Norwegian @ 20.553850
19 British @ 21.120430
20 Spanish_Extremadura @ 23.108961

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belgian +50% South-German @ 3.839558


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Swede +25% Swedish +25% Toscani @ 3.067333


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kosovar + Norwegian + Swede + Swedish @ 2.244760
2 Greek + Norwegian + Swede + Swedish @ 2.322576
3 Kosovar + Norwegian + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.498009
4 Belgian + Bulgarians + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.559838
5 Cornish + Kosovar + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.597800
6 Kosovar + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.599016
7 Greek + Norwegian + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.608798
8 British + Kosovar + Swede + Swedish @ 2.659900
9 Bulgarians + N._European + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.673650
10 Central-Greek + Norwegian + Swede + Swedish @ 2.682581
11 Kosovar + Orcadian + Swede + Swedish @ 2.684838
12 Belgian + Macedonian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.724223
13 Kosovar + Swedish + Swedish + Welsh @ 2.744010
14 Kosovar + North_German + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.763805
15 CEU + Kosovar + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.767517
16 Belgian + Gagauz + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.779491
17 British + Greek + Swede + Swedish @ 2.835919
18 Austrian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.838310
19 Mixed_CEU + Norwegian + Swedish + Toscani @ 2.854352
20 Belgian + Norwegian + Serb_Serbia + Swedish @ 2.875424

David Mc
08-25-2014, 05:52 PM
I was given South German as my first reference population, as well, and I am entirely of British Isles origin.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 35.57
2 East_European 26.54
3 Mediterranean 10.28
4 Caucasian 5.96
5 Sami-Finnic 4.95
6 South_Central_Asian 4.05
7 Volga-Uralic 2.85
8 Afroasiatic 2.71
9 South_Indian 2.19
10 Roma 1.75
11 Arctic 1.05
12 Amerindian 0.86
13 Archaic_African 0.8
14 West_Siberian 0.28
15 Melano-Austronesian 0.14


MDLP Ancient Roots K18 Oracle results:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South-German 5.56
2 N._European 7.5
3 Belgian 8.25
4 Mixed_European 8.76
5 North_German 9.09
6 Mixed_German 10.49
7 Swede 10.71
8 Welsh 11.28
9 Austrian 11.45
10 CEU 11.5
11 French 12.03
12 Swedish 12.07
13 Cornish 13.71
14 British_Kent 14.14
15 Scottish_Argyll 16.22
16 Orcadian 16.37
17 Occitan 16.68
18 Spanish_Extremadura 19.39
19 Hungarians 19.89
20 Norwegian 19.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.8% N._European + 14.2% Vepsa @ 3.14
2 85.4% N._European + 14.6% Karelian @ 3.17
3 80.2% Belgian + 19.8% Russian_South @ 3.28
4 85.6% N._European + 14.4% North-Russian @ 3.3
5 74.7% N._European + 25.3% Mixed_CEU @ 3.33
6 71.7% Swede + 28.3% Corsican @ 3.33
7 81.3% Swedish + 18.7% French_Jew @ 3.37
8 78.1% French + 21.9% Estonians @ 3.39
9 72.4% French + 27.6% Finn @ 3.4
10 75.2% N._European + 24.8% German @ 3.41
11 85% N._European + 15% Mordovians @ 3.43
12 77.5% French + 22.5% Karelian @ 3.43
13 86.3% N._European + 13.7% Kuban_cossack @ 3.44
14 81.9% N._European + 18.1% Finn @ 3.44
15 84.8% N._European + 15.2% Russian @ 3.44
16 61.7% Swede + 38.3% Occitan @ 3.44
17 77.3% Belgian + 22.7% Croat @ 3.45
18 65.3% Swede + 34.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.45
19 72.3% Belgian + 27.7% Hungarians @ 3.46
20 54.8% N._European + 45.2% Mixed_European @ 3.47

MDLP Ancient Roots K18 4-Ancestors Oracle

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 6.123264
2 N._European @ 8.283172
3 Belgian @ 9.075195
4 Mixed_European @ 9.808290
5 North_German @ 10.110473
6 Mixed_German @ 11.378077
7 Swede @ 11.821916
8 Welsh @ 12.528250
9 CEU @ 12.713635
10 Austrian @ 12.792098
11 Swedish @ 13.189670
12 French @ 13.414533
13 Cornish @ 15.219316
14 British_Kent @ 15.709288
15 Scottish_Argyll @ 18.062492
16 Orcadian @ 18.120340
17 Occitan @ 18.422043
18 Spanish_Extremadura @ 21.377985
19 Norwegian @ 22.121735
20 Hungarians @ 22.244717

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mixed_European +50% N._European @ 3.788681


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cornish +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% Vepsa @ 2.757963


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belgian + German + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 2.148327
2 Mixed_CEU + N._European + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 2.211765
3 Russian_South + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.279164
4 German + N._European + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 2.279933
5 Belgian + German + Portugese + Swedish @ 2.378164
6 Mixed_CEU + N._European + Portugese + Swedish @ 2.388976
7 German + N._European + Portugese + Swedish @ 2.474137
8 German + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish + Welsh @ 2.495567
9 French + Norwegian + Russian_South + Swedish @ 2.541297
10 Belgian + Mixed_CEU + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 2.543785
11 N._European + Norwegian + Russian_South + Swedish @ 2.544272
12 German + N._European + Spaniards + Swedish @ 2.553529
13 Belgian + German + Spaniards + Swedish @ 2.574708
14 German + N._European + Occitan + Swedish @ 2.589363
15 British + Finn + South-German + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.606121
16 Finn + Orcadian + South-German + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.648978
17 Mixed_CEU + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish + Welsh @ 2.661500
18 Finn + Norwegian + South-German + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.662474
19 CEU + German + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 2.663113
20 Mixed_CEU + N._European + Occitan + Swedish @ 2.673507

These results are a bit odd, and they diverge pretty widely from other Gedmatch results, as well. My father is Northern Irish (primarily a mix of English and Scottish stock, with his Y-DNA line going back to Isle of Man); my mother is English, with a smidgen of Irish (a great grandfather on her mother's side). How this correlates with the admixtures above, I don't know.

Táltos
08-25-2014, 06:07 PM
Hungarian was my first reference population, that is usually what shows up as my first one in most of the Gedmatch calculators. However MDLP World 22, (and I think if I remember correctly MDLP World), Bosnian is my first reference pop. So this one seems more in line with all the other ones. I do have Colonial roots, but as you can see from my flags listed a mix of a few others.

vettor
08-25-2014, 06:18 PM
23andme -file

Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.81
2 Mediterranean 22.65
3 South_Central_Asian 12.36
4 Afroasiatic 7.5
5 North_West_European 7.06
6 Roma 4.16
7 South_East_Asian 3.9
8 East_Siberian 3.15
9 Volga-Uralic 2.46
10 West_Siberian 2.39
11 Sami-Finnic 1.32
12 Archaic_African 1.2
13 East_European 0.97
14 South_Indian 0.81
15 Arctic 0.66
16 Amerindian 0.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks 5.18
2 Azeri 9.35
3 Turkish_Kayseri 12.86
4 Jew_Tat 13.11
5 Kurds 13.13
6 Azov_Greek 13.72
7 Uzbekistan_Jew 14.14
8 Uzbekistani_Jews 14.35
9 Armenian_Yerevan 14.48
10 Iranians 14.87
11 Kurd 15
12 Turkish_Adana 15.21
13 Kurd_Jew 15.83
14 Turkish_Aydin 16.94
15 Crimean_Tatar 17.01
16 Iran_Jew 17.04
17 Azeri_Dagestan 17.73
18 Greek-Islands 17.85
19 Iraki 17.9
20 Cypriots 18.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.3% Turks + 9.7% Uzbek @ 4.27
2 86.3% Turks + 13.7% Turkmens @ 4.31
3 92.9% Turks + 7.1% Hazara @ 4.39
4 95.4% Turks + 4.6% French_Basque @ 4.39
5 90.6% Turks + 9.4% Tadjik @ 4.4
6 93% Turks + 7% Uygur @ 4.41
7 94.4% Turks + 5.6% Nepalese @ 4.46
8 95.4% Turks + 4.6% Brahui @ 4.46
9 90.3% Turks + 9.7% Tajiks @ 4.48
10 96.6% Turks + 3.4% Malay @ 4.48
11 90.2% Turks + 9.8% Turkmen @ 4.48
12 95.2% Turks + 4.8% Makrani @ 4.48
13 95.3% Turks + 4.7% Balochi @ 4.49
14 94.2% Turks + 5.8% Parsi @ 4.51
15 94.5% Turks + 5.5% Shor @ 4.52
16 93.5% Turks + 6.5% Puerto-Rican @ 4.53
17 93.2% Turks + 6.8% Uyghur @ 4.54
18 94% Turks + 6% Burusho @ 4.54
19 95.2% Turks + 4.8% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.54
20 96.9% Turks + 3.1% Mon @ 4.55


Oracle-4
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.81
2 Mediterranean 22.65
3 South_Central_Asian 12.36
4 Afroasiatic 7.50
5 North_West_European 7.06
6 Roma 4.16
7 South_East_Asian 3.90
8 East_Siberian 3.15
9 Volga-Uralic 2.46
10 West_Siberian 2.39
11 Sami-Finnic 1.32
12 Archaic_African 1.20


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 5.709771
2 Azeri @ 10.447437
3 Turkish_Kayseri @ 14.253908
4 Jew_Tat @ 14.267921
5 Kurds @ 14.601501
6 Azov_Greek @ 15.363561
7 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 15.551406
8 Uzbekistani_Jews @ 15.597871
9 Armenian_Yerevan @ 16.098209
10 Iranians @ 16.417261
11 Kurd @ 16.788363
12 Turkish_Adana @ 17.204447
13 Kurd_Jew @ 17.315870
14 Turkish_Aydin @ 18.616848
15 Iran_Jew @ 18.666777
16 Crimean_Tatar @ 19.216501
17 Iraki @ 19.430967
18 Greek-Islands @ 19.538155
19 Azeri_Dagestan @ 19.726051
20 Cypriots @ 19.964796

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turks +50% Turks @ 5.709771


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Yerevan +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Turkmen @ 4.577225


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Imereti + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.738775
2 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.779118
3 Georgian_Laz + Kurds + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.843023
4 Georgian_Laz + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.860897
5 Georgian_Laz + Sephardic_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.942766
6 Georgian_Laz + Kurd + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.948559
7 Georgians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.957181
8 Georgian_Imereti + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.957942
9 Georgian_Laz + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.019493
10 Abhkasians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.069970
11 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.084791
12 Georgian_Imereti + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.125478
13 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.157042
14 Georgian_Laz + Iranians + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 4.157659
15 Georgians + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.159334
16 Moroccan_Jews + Ossetian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.160845
17 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Kurds + Turkmen @ 4.175020
18 Abhkasians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.184089
19 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.208298
20 Georgians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.210742

FtDNA-file

Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.73
2 Mediterranean 22.66
3 South_Central_Asian 12.36
4 Afroasiatic 7.5
5 North_West_European 7.15
6 Roma 4.07
7 East_Siberian 3.39
8 South_East_Asian 3.38
9 Volga-Uralic 2.5
10 West_Siberian 2.33
11 Archaic_African 1.29
12 Sami-Finnic 1.21
13 South_Indian 0.99
14 East_European 0.84
15 Arctic 0.82
16 Amerindian 0.75
17 East_African 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks 5.21
2 Azeri 9.37
3 Turkish_Kayseri 12.96
4 Kurds 13.09
5 Jew_Tat 13.12
6 Azov_Greek 13.75
7 Uzbekistan_Jew 14.16
8 Uzbekistani_Jews 14.29
9 Armenian_Yerevan 14.5
10 Iranians 14.81
11 Kurd 14.98
12 Turkish_Adana 15.19
13 Kurd_Jew 15.79
14 Turkish_Aydin 16.82
15 Iran_Jew 17
16 Crimean_Tatar 17.08
17 Azeri_Dagestan 17.78
18 Greek-Islands 17.84
19 Iraki 17.85
20 Cypriots 18.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.4% Turks + 9.6% Uzbek @ 4.31
2 95.2% Turks + 4.8% French_Basque @ 4.34
3 86.5% Turks + 13.5% Turkmens @ 4.37
4 90.5% Turks + 9.5% Tadjik @ 4.4
5 93.1% Turks + 6.9% Puerto-Rican @ 4.45
6 95.3% Turks + 4.7% Brahui @ 4.46
7 95.1% Turks + 4.9% Makrani @ 4.48
8 95.2% Turks + 4.8% Balochi @ 4.48
9 93.2% Turks + 6.8% Hazara @ 4.48
10 90.2% Turks + 9.8% Tajiks @ 4.48
11 94.4% Turks + 5.6% Nepalese @ 4.49
12 94.1% Turks + 5.9% Parsi @ 4.5
13 95% Turks + 5% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.5
14 93.8% Turks + 6.2% Burusho @ 4.53
15 90.3% Turks + 9.7% Turkmen @ 4.53
16 94.5% Turks + 5.5% Shor @ 4.53
17 94.3% Turks + 5.7% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 4.54
18 94.7% Turks + 5.3% Sindhi @ 4.55
19 93.5% Turks + 6.5% Uygur @ 4.55
20 94.9% Turks + 5.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.57


Oracle-4
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.73
2 Mediterranean 22.66
3 South_Central_Asian 12.36
4 Afroasiatic 7.50
5 North_West_European 7.15
6 Roma 4.07
7 East_Siberian 3.39
8 South_East_Asian 3.38
9 Volga-Uralic 2.50
10 West_Siberian 2.33
11 Archaic_African 1.29
12 Sami-Finnic 1.21


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 5.739826
2 Azeri @ 10.466161
3 Jew_Tat @ 14.267959
4 Turkish_Kayseri @ 14.368587
5 Kurds @ 14.551397
6 Azov_Greek @ 15.405555
7 Uzbekistani_Jews @ 15.531707
8 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 15.565109
9 Armenian_Yerevan @ 16.117292
10 Iranians @ 16.348841
11 Kurd @ 16.765196
12 Turkish_Adana @ 17.189079
13 Kurd_Jew @ 17.276716
14 Turkish_Aydin @ 18.522394
15 Iran_Jew @ 18.612484
16 Crimean_Tatar @ 19.295938
17 Iraki @ 19.376579
18 Greek-Islands @ 19.514032
19 Azeri_Dagestan @ 19.773687
20 Cypriots @ 19.913641

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turks +50% Turks @ 5.739826


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Yerevan +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Turkmen @ 4.560082


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Imereti + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.808915
2 Georgian_Laz + Kurds + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.869295
3 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.880846
4 Georgian_Laz + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.913694
5 Georgian_Laz + Kurd + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 3.986017
6 Georgian_Imereti + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.008128
7 Georgian_Laz + Sephardic_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.017781
8 Georgians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.025112
9 Georgian_Laz + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.056574
10 Abhkasians + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.135280
11 Georgian_Imereti + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.136798
12 Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.141987
13 Georgian_Laz + Iranians + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 4.158431
14 Abhkasians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.191814
15 Moroccan_Jews + Ossetian + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.192041
16 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Kurds + Turkmen @ 4.194941
17 Georgian_Laz + Italian_Abruzzo + Turkmens + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.206491
18 Georgians + Morocco_Jew + Turkmen + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 4.217964
19 Armenian_Yerevan + Azeri_Dagestan + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.220737
20 Georgians + Kurds + Moroccan_Jews + Turkmen @ 4.221984

you too have a big difference between your ftdna and 23andme numbers for this test ..............do you know why?

mine change a lot from 5% and lower , the higher seem to to not much of a change

vettor
08-25-2014, 06:22 PM
Is there any paperwork on what the names represent as its called ancient roots.....example

does

Austrian = raetian
south german = vindelici
occitan = gallic
italian-Piedmont = ligures
etc etc

why the term..ancient roots ?

Wulf Warrior
08-25-2014, 06:52 PM
My 23andMe,

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 35.83
2 East_European 29.54
3 Caucasian 8.91
4 Mediterranean 7.08
5 South_Central_Asian 4.88
6 Sami-Finnic 4.09
7 Afroasiatic 3.00
8 West_Siberian 2.51
9 Amerindian 1.26


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 6.620470
2 North_German @ 6.841629
3 Mixed_European @ 7.891868
4 Swede @ 8.200570
5 Swedish @ 10.528398
6 Belgian @ 10.602558
7 Mixed_German @ 11.029474
8 N._European @ 11.758797
9 Austrian @ 12.191476
10 CEU @ 12.672919
11 Welsh @ 13.072456
12 British_Kent @ 15.414450
13 Cornish @ 15.487594
14 French @ 16.909822
15 Orcadian @ 17.935226
16 Scottish_Argyll @ 18.347702
17 Mixed_CEU @ 21.008589
18 Hungarians @ 21.616983
19 German @ 21.866129
20 Norwegian @ 22.288090

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% South-German +50% Swedish @ 3.761554


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian +25% Cornish +25% Swedish @ 3.004722


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British + Bulgarians + Swede + Swedish @ 2.994829
2 Bulgarians + Cornish + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.999045
3 Austrian + Austrian + Cornish + Swedish @ 3.004722
4 Bulgarians + Orcadian + Swede + Swedish @ 3.015902
5 Austrian + Austrian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 3.017353
6 British + Macedonian + Swede + Swedish @ 3.051801
7 Bulgarians + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.097429
8 Bulgarians + CEU + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.101084
9 British + Bulgarians + North_German + Swedish @ 3.101234
10 Austrian + CEU + South-German + Swedish @ 3.143808
11 Austrian + Austrian + British_Kent + Swedish @ 3.145087
12 Bulgarians + Norwegian + Swede + Swedish @ 3.165677
13 British + Hungarians + South-German + Swedish @ 3.167748
14 Macedonian + Orcadian + Swede + Swedish @ 3.172690
15 Bulgarians + Swedish + Swedish + Welsh @ 3.186244
16 Austrian + Austrian + CEU + Swedish @ 3.203752
17 British + Macedonian + North_German + Swedish @ 3.217673
18 Macedonian + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.227840
19 Hungarians + Orcadian + South-German + Swedish @ 3.231182
20 Austrian + South-German + Swedish + Welsh @ 3.232983

Edit, My FTDNA

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 35.80
2 East_European 29.53
3 Caucasian 8.79
4 Mediterranean 7.17
5 South_Central_Asian 5.00
6 Sami-Finnic 4.08
7 Afroasiatic 3.01
8 West_Siberian 2.22
9 Amerindian 1.13


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 6.405953
2 North_German @ 6.701618
3 Mixed_European @ 7.714609
4 Swede @ 8.139427
5 Belgian @ 10.483531
6 Swedish @ 10.515137
7 Mixed_German @ 10.967031
8 N._European @ 11.603361
9 Austrian @ 12.061646
10 CEU @ 12.649091
11 Welsh @ 13.021687
12 British_Kent @ 15.413433
13 Cornish @ 15.461376
14 French @ 16.815117
15 Orcadian @ 17.932165
16 Scottish_Argyll @ 18.347906
17 Mixed_CEU @ 20.941561
18 Hungarians @ 21.522919
19 German @ 21.778864
20 Norwegian @ 22.246969

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% South-German +50% Swedish @ 3.562946


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian +25% Cornish +25% Swedish @ 2.687896


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Austrian + Austrian + Cornish + Swedish @ 2.687896
2 Austrian + Austrian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.742712
3 Bulgarians + Orcadian + Swede + Swedish @ 2.768363
4 Bulgarians + Cornish + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.790731
5 British + Bulgarians + Swede + Swedish @ 2.813854
6 British + Macedonian + Swede + Swedish @ 2.819291
7 Macedonian + Orcadian + Swede + Swedish @ 2.852714
8 Austrian + CEU + South-German + Swedish @ 2.857835
9 Bulgarians + Norwegian + Swede + Swedish @ 2.869893
10 Austrian + Austrian + British_Kent + Swedish @ 2.874266
11 Bulgarians + CEU + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.905416
12 British + Bulgarians + North_German + Swedish @ 2.906533
13 Bulgarians + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.912426
14 Austrian + Austrian + CEU + Swedish @ 2.913701
15 British + Hungarians + South-German + Swedish @ 2.923316
16 Hungarians + Orcadian + South-German + Swedish @ 2.938699
17 Austrian + South-German + Swedish + Welsh @ 2.941263
18 Bulgarians + Swedish + Swedish + Welsh @ 2.949928
19 Austrian + Belgian + South-German + Swedish @ 2.950382
20 Austrian + Austrian + Swedish + Welsh @ 2.951566

AJL
08-25-2014, 07:17 PM
you too have a big difference between your ftdna and 23andme numbers for this test ..............do you know why?

The latest generation of 23andme chip is based on fewer than half the number of SNPs than Family Finder. That might be why, in some cases.

icebreaker
08-25-2014, 09:14 PM
you too have a big difference between your ftdna and 23andme numbers for this test ..............do you know why?

mine change a lot from 5% and lower , the higher seem to to not much of a change

I don't think there is a big difference. Btw, when I took the test 23andme was using V2 chip.

Varun R
08-26-2014, 02:57 AM
My 23andMe results. Ancestry = 1/2 Tamil Brahmin + 1/2 Brahmin Coastal Karnataka

Population
Caucasian 7.16%
Melano-Austronesian 0.76%
Volga-Uralic -
East_Siberian -
West_Siberian 2.87%
South_Central_Asian 30.63%
South_Indian 40.91%
North_West_European 6.63%
Sami-Finnic 0.28%
South_East_Asian 2.64%
Archaic_African 0.73%
Mediterranean -
Arctic 0.83%
Afroasiatic -
East_European 2.76%
Roma 3.66%
East_African 0.12%
Amerindian -

1 Vaish 6.78
2 TN_Brahmin 8.18
3 Tiwari 8.31
4 Kshatriya 8.57
5 Brahmins_Tamil 9.05
6 Brahmins_UP 9.53
7 Meghawal 10.05
8 Pakistani 11.04
9 AP_Brahmin 11.69
10 Srivastava 12.95

1 88.6% Brahmins_Tamil + 11.4% British @ 4.28
2 89.9% TN_Brahmin + 10.1% British @ 4.33
3 88.4% Brahmins_Tamil + 11.6% Orcadian @ 4.37
4 88.3% Brahmins_Tamil + 11.7% Cornish @ 4.4
5 88.4% Brahmins_Tamil + 11.6% British_Kent @ 4.41

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu + Tadjik + TN_Brahmin + Vaish @ 5.046084
2 Meghawal + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu + Tadjik + Vaish @ 5.165968
3 Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu + Tadjik + TN_Brahmin + TN_Brahmin @ 5.177219
4 Meghawal + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu + Tadjik + TN_Brahmin @ 5.219595
5 Brahmins_Tamil + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu + Tadjik + Vaish @ 5.233535

Silesian
08-26-2014, 05:59 AM
Central Eastern Europe and Baltic,


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_European 46.65
2 North_West_European 17.2
3 Mediterranean 10.81
4 Volga-Uralic 7.06
5 Caucasian 5.35
6 South_Central_Asian 4.56
7 Sami-Finnic 2.01
8 Roma 1.9
9 South_Indian 1.41
10 Arctic 0.96
11 Melano-Austronesian 0.78
12 Archaic_African 0.58
13 West_Siberian 0.48
14 East_Siberian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Czech 5.71
2 German 5.8
3 Slovak 6.21
4 Croatian 7.29
5 Slovenian 8.29

rod
08-26-2014, 06:18 AM
MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 36.96
2 East_European 26.36
3 Mediterranean 10.83
4 Caucasian 5.38
5 South_Central_Asian 4.14
6 Sami-Finnic 3.99
7 Afroasiatic 3.7
8 Volga-Uralic 3.58
9 Roma 2.38
10 West_Siberian 1.29
11 East_African 0.73
12 Melano-Austronesian 0.63
13 South_Indian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South-German 6.08
2 N._European 6.69
3 Belgian 7.5
4 North_German 9.43
5 Mixed_European 9.55
6 Mixed_German 9.76
7 Welsh 10.32
8 CEU 10.7
9 French 10.98
10 Swede 11.14
11 Austrian 12.34
12 Swedish 12.67
13 Cornish 12.83
14 British_Kent 13.53
15 Scottish_Argyll 15.5
16 Orcadian 15.52
17 Occitan 16.09
18 Spanish_Extremadura 18.6
19 Norwegian 18.95
20 British 19.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63% Swede + 37% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.68
2 65% Swede + 35% Portugese @ 3.01
3 59.6% Swede + 40.4% Occitan @ 3.15
4 80.1% French + 19.9% Estonians @ 3.2
5 53.9% Mixed_European + 46.1% French @ 3.23
6 69.2% North_German + 30.8% Portugese @ 3.24
7 71.1% North_German + 28.9% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 3.3
8 69.4% North_German + 30.6% Spaniards @ 3.32
9 70.4% Swede + 29.6% Corsican @ 3.35
10 88.1% N._European + 11.9% Kuban_cossack @ 3.38
11 67.5% North_German + 32.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.38
12 60.8% N._European + 39.2% Mixed_European @ 3.39
13 79.9% Belgian + 20.1% Croat @ 3.44
14 57% South-German + 43% Belgian @ 3.44
15 53.3% South-German + 46.7% N._European @ 3.44
16 80.3% Belgian + 19.7% Croat_BH @ 3.5
17 87.3% N._European + 12.7% Mordovian @ 3.5
18 79.8% Mixed_European + 20.2% French_Basque @ 3.5
19 88.9% N._European + 11.1% Hungarian @ 3.52
20 66.8% French + 33.2% Mixed_CEU @ 3.52


MDLP Ancient Roots K18 4-Ancestors Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 36.96
2 East_European 26.36
3 Mediterranean 10.83
4 Caucasian 5.38
5 South_Central_Asian 4.14
6 Sami-Finnic 3.99
7 Afroasiatic 3.70
8 Volga-Uralic 3.58
9 Roma 2.38
10 West_Siberian 1.29

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 6.771733
2 N._European @ 7.344556
3 Belgian @ 8.330530
4 North_German @ 10.512588
5 Mixed_German @ 10.554786
6 Mixed_European @ 10.710593
7 Welsh @ 11.455097
8 CEU @ 11.832847
9 French @ 12.266871
10 Swede @ 12.305212
11 Austrian @ 13.819790
12 Swedish @ 13.836857
13 Cornish @ 14.247135
14 British_Kent @ 15.041161
15 Orcadian @ 17.159838
16 Scottish_Argyll @ 17.243111
17 Occitan @ 17.813780
18 Spanish_Extremadura @ 20.539625
19 Norwegian @ 21.031687
20 British @ 22.091518

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% Mixed_European @ 3.589608


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French +25% Mixed_CEU +25% Mixed_German @ 2.803925


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belgian + Norwegian + Russian + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 2.454570
2 German + N._European + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon + Swedish @ 2.526737
3 Belgian + Norwegian + Russian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.556960
4 Estonians + French + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 2.587805
5 Estonians + French + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 2.608597
6 Mixed_CEU + Mixed_European + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 2.615825
7 Belgian + Norwegian + Russian + Spaniards @ 2.651833
8 Scottish_Argyll + Slovak + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon + Swedish @ 2.666956
9 Mixed_CEU + Mixed_European + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 2.669698
10 Belgian + German + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon + Swedish @ 2.674503
11 Mixed_CEU + Mixed_German + Spanish_Extremadura + Welsh @ 2.700121
12 Belgian + Orcadian + Russian + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 2.721134
13 Belgian + Mordovian + Norwegian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.738191
14 CEU + Mixed_CEU + Mixed_German + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.763388
15 Norwegian + Russian + Spanish_Valencia + Welsh @ 2.774518
16 Belgian + Mordovian + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 2.776085
17 Mixed_CEU + Mixed_German + N._European + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.777861
18 Belgian + Mixed_CEU + Mixed_German + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.783535
19 North-Russian + Norwegian + Spanish_Valencia + Welsh @ 2.791904
20 Belgian + Mordovians + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 2.796425

Partizan
08-26-2014, 07:54 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 29.18
2 Mediterranean 22.67
3 East_European 10.07
4 South_Central_Asian 9.65
5 Afroasiatic 9.08
6 Roma 4.68
7 North_West_European 3.66
8 Volga-Uralic 2.95
9 East_Siberian 2.13
10 Sami-Finnic 2.03
11 West_Siberian 1.45
12 South_Indian 1.08


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 7.452542
2 Azov_Greek @ 9.313744
3 Crimean_Tatar @ 12.518429
4 Turkish_Aydin @ 13.318780
5 Azeri @ 14.039646
6 Turkish_Kayseri @ 15.372281
7 Jew_Tat @ 16.494333
8 Armenian_Yerevan @ 17.287258
9 Uzbekistani_Jews @ 17.549747
10 Greek-Islands @ 18.097141
11 Cretan @ 18.195351
12 Kurds @ 18.205606
13 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 18.321070
14 Turkish_Adana @ 18.936541
15 Kurd_Jew @ 19.042730
16 Iranians @ 19.372034
17 Cypriots @ 19.456755
18 North_Greek @ 19.540730
19 Syrians @ 19.596132
20 Kurd @ 19.896776

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azov_Greek +50% Turks @ 5.557540


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurd_Jew +25% North-Ossetian +25% Romanians @ 3.400624


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Gagauz + Kumyks + Kurd_Jew + Turks @ 3.070238
2 Kurd + North-Ossetian + Romanians + Syrian_Jew @ 3.079621
3 Armenian_Yerevan + Kumyks + Romanians + Syrians @ 3.142862
4 Avar + Romanians + Samaritians + Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.149564
5 Lezgins + Romanians + Samaritians + Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.176373
6 Iraki + Mixed_East_European + Turks + Turks @ 3.189480
7 Adygei + Kurd + Romanians + Syrian_Jew @ 3.211040
8 Kurd_Jew + Mixed_East_European + Turks + Turks @ 3.214763
9 Iraqi_Jews + Kumyks + Romanians + Turks @ 3.218854
10 Gagauz + Iraki + Kumyks + Turks @ 3.223073
11 Lak + Romanians + Samaritians + Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.223655
12 Armenian_Yerevan + Mixed_East_European + Turkish_Aydin + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.232429
13 Iranians + North-Ossetian + Romanians + Syrian_Jew @ 3.241238
14 Balkars + Gagauz + Kurds + Syrians @ 3.258913
15 Gagauz + Iraqi_Jews + Kumyks + Turks @ 3.265732
16 Gagauz + Georgian_Laz + Turkish_Aydin + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 3.282726
17 Kurds + North-Ossetian + Romanians + Syrians @ 3.304842
18 Balkars + Iran_Jew + Romanians + Uzbekistani_Jews @ 3.313791
19 Gagauz + Iran_Jew + Kumyks + Turks @ 3.324928
20 Azeri_Dagestan + Gagauz + Syrians + Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.326305

Calamus
08-26-2014, 09:15 PM
My results, Norwegian ancestry:

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 34.94
2 East_European 33.01
3 Caucasian 7.18
4 Volga-Uralic 5
5 Mediterranean 4.46
6 Sami-Finnic 3.75
7 Roma 2.75
8 South_Central_Asian 2.53
9 West_Siberian 2.24
10 Melano-Austronesian 1.04
11 Arctic 0.93
12 East_African 0.9
13 Afroasiatic 0.63
14 South_East_Asian 0.29
15 East_Siberian 0.17
16 South_Indian 0.12
17 Archaic_African 0.05

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 4.33
2 Swede 5.31
3 Mixed_European 5.9
4 South-German 8.76
5 Swedish 9.69
6 Austrian 11.78
7 Mixed_German 11.82
8 Belgian 13.04
9 N._European 13.41
10 CEU 13.71
11 Welsh 14.55
12 Mixed_CEU 16.21
13 British_Kent 16.24
14 Cornish 16.41
15 German 16.79
16 Scottish_Argyll 17.64
17 Orcadian 17.8
18 Hungarians 18.85
19 French 18.86
20 Czech 20.56
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_German @ 4.826406
2 Swede @ 5.911342
3 Mixed_European @ 6.474220
4 South-German @ 9.599833
5 Swedish @ 10.702768
6 Austrian @ 12.953030
7 Mixed_German @ 13.120098
8 Belgian @ 14.626900
9 N._European @ 14.930751
10 CEU @ 15.378122
11 Welsh @ 16.335470
12 Mixed_CEU @ 18.129044
13 British_Kent @ 18.266668
14 Cornish @ 18.411345
15 German @ 18.729307
16 Scottish_Argyll @ 19.815258
17 Orcadian @ 19.925354
18 Hungarians @ 20.863188
19 French @ 21.015917
20 Czech @ 22.949778

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% Orcadian @ 3.150546


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cornish +25% Mordovian +25% Swede @ 2.487528


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British + Mordovian + N._European + Swede @ 2.262226
2 Mordovian + Scottish_Argyll + Swede + Welsh @ 2.367745
3 British_Kent + Cornish + Mordovian + Swede @ 2.444487
4 Cornish + Mordovian + Scottish_Argyll + Swede @ 2.464651
5 Cornish + Cornish + Mordovian + Swede @ 2.487528

vettor
08-27-2014, 05:51 AM
The latest generation of 23andme chip is based on fewer than half the number of SNPs than Family Finder. That might be why, in some cases.

mine was on the previous 23andme ...IIRC v2

Scarlet Ibis
08-27-2014, 08:50 AM
Was able to run my parents' results on gedmatch. Not sure what to make of this at the moment.

Mother's Results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_East_Asian 79.96
2 East_Siberian 20.00


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Japanese @ 1.495533
2 Korean @ 5.057100
3 Naga @ 5.919199
4 Nysha @ 6.019146
5 Aonaga @ 7.147264

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +50% Japanese @ 1.495533


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Korean +25% Korean +25% North_Han @ 1.416884


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Korean + Korean + Korean + North_Han @ 1.416884
2 Japanese + Japanese + Japanese + Japanese @ 1.495533
3 Japanese + Korean + Korean + North_Han @ 1.506510
4 Japanese + Japanese + Korean + Naga @ 1.575610
5 Japanese + Korean + Korean + Yizu @ 1.599496




Father's Results:

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 35.30
2 East_European 32.27
3 Mediterranean 9.08
4 Caucasian 5.69
5 Volga-Uralic 4.17
6 South_Central_Asian 2.71
7 Roma 2.35
8 Afroasiatic 2.25
9 Sami-Finnic 1.76
10 Arctic 1.62
11 South_Indian 1.04

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mixed_European @ 5.312058
2 North_German @ 5.335928
3 South-German @ 6.199131
4 Swede @ 8.935214
5 Austrian @ 10.699172

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Slovenian @ 3.632174


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French +25% Lithuanians +25% Orcadian @ 2.565646


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Mixed_German + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swede + Ukrainian @ 1.927812
2 Mixed_German + South-Russian + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Swede @ 2.111176
3 Kuban_cossack + Mixed_European + Orcadian + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2.131001
4 Latvian + Mixed_European + Scottish_Argyll + Spain_BASC @ 2.162362
5 British_Kent + Latvian + Mixed_European + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2.182796

Partizan
08-27-2014, 09:57 AM
Paternal Aunt's results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.15
2 Mediterranean 23.37
3 South_Central_Asian 11.14
4 Afroasiatic 10.24
5 Roma 3.29
6 East_European 1.98
7 North_West_European 1.91
8 Sami-Finnic 1.86
9 West_Siberian 1.52
10 Volga-Uralic 1.13


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian_Yerevan @ 7.228232
2 Turkish_Kayseri @ 7.948462
3 Turks @ 11.307303
4 Jew_Tat @ 15.690551
5 Azeri @ 16.608892
6 Azeri_Dagestan @ 16.985636
7 Uzbekistani_Jews @ 17.630299
8 Kumyks @ 17.966845
9 Turkish_Adana @ 19.200579
10 Turkish_Trabzon @ 19.869589
11 Kurds @ 20.012127
12 Cirkassian @ 20.408264
13 Azov_Greek @ 20.563471
14 Georgian_Laz @ 20.905151
15 Kurd @ 21.128498
16 Iran_Jew @ 21.477095
17 Kurd_Jew @ 21.787344
18 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 21.807005
19 Kabardin @ 22.444380
20 Iranians @ 22.611860

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian_Laz +50% Uzbekistan_Jew @ 2.696343


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian_Laz +25% Iraki +25% Uzbekistan_Jew @ 2.558906


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Imereti + Jew_Tat + Lak + Samaritians @ 2.206790
2 Adygei + Georgian_Laz + Iraqi_Jews + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 2.239897
3 Avar + Georgian_Imereti + Jew_Tat + Samaritians @ 2.305201
4 Georgian_Imereti + Jew_Tat + Samaritians + Urkarah @ 2.369412
5 Chechens + Georgian_Laz + Iraqi_Jews + Jew_Tat @ 2.413244
6 Georgian_Laz + Jew_Tat + Jew_Tat + Kumyks @ 2.432132
7 Georgian_Imereti + Jew_Tat + Lezgins + Samaritians @ 2.514192
8 Armenian_Yerevan + Georgian_Imereti + Lezgin + Samaritians @ 2.518049
9 Armenian_Yerevan + Azeri_Dagestan + Georgian_Laz + Syrians @ 2.526464
10 Adygei + Georgian_Laz + Kurd_Jew + Kurd_Jew @ 2.536497
11 Georgian_Laz + Iraqi_Jews + North-Ossetian + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 2.552148
12 Georgian_Laz + Georgian_Laz + Iraki + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 2.558906
13 Armenian_Yerevan + Armenian_Yerevan + Chechens + Jew_Tat @ 2.576693
14 Adygei + Armenian_Yerevan + Armenian_Yerevan + Uzbekistan_Jew @ 2.611706
15 Chechens + Georgian_Laz + Jew_Tat + Kurd_Jew @ 2.614198
16 Chechens + Druze + Georgian_Imereti + Kurd_Jew @ 2.626112
17 Druze + Georgian_Imereti + Iraqi_Jews + Lak @ 2.638276
18 Druze + Georgian_Imereti + Jew_Tat + Lezgins @ 2.641850
19 Georgian_Laz + Jew_Tat + Kumyks + Uzbekistani_Jews @ 2.652523
20 Chechens + Georgian_Laz + Iraqi_Jews + Kurd_Jew @ 2.657215

Vadim Verenich
08-27-2014, 08:05 PM
Thank you everyone for sharing your results, however i would ask for including more detailed your information about your origin.

DMXX
08-27-2014, 08:17 PM
I am fully north Iranian. Paternal side is Azeri from West Azarbaijan province, maternal side is Persian from around Tehran. As far as genealogical depth goes, most of my extended family on both sides are within Iran's current borders and go no further south than Esfahan. Any other ethnic input I've discovered through genetic testing (Armenian, something North Caucasian) are likely distant (beyond 5 generations).

dp
08-27-2014, 09:24 PM
ethnicity: Caucasian [British Isles, France, Amerindian]

2473
MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle

Kit FN87877

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 38.25
2 East_European 24.75
3 Mediterranean 10.5
4 Caucasian 8.89
5 Sami-Finnic 3.38
6 Afroasiatic 2.72
7 South_Central_Asian 2.59
8 Roma 2.16
9 Volga-Uralic 1.53
10 Amerindian 1.42
11 West_Siberian 1.39
12 Archaic_African 0.8
13 East_African 0.66
14 East_Siberian 0.54
15 South_East_Asian 0.2
16 South_Indian 0.19
17 Arctic 0.03

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 N._European 5.86
2 Belgian 6.33
3 South-German 6.71
4 Welsh 8.51
5 CEU 8.91
6 French 9.35
7 Mixed_German 9.91
8 North_German 10.64
9 Cornish 11.01
10 Mixed_European 11.07
11 British_Kent 11.16
12 Swede 11.9
13 Swedish 12.85
14 Austrian 13.39
15 Scottish_Argyll 14.01
16 Orcadian 14.06
17 Occitan 15.29
18 Norwegian 17.85
19 British 17.97
20 Spanish_Extremadura 18.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.9% CEU + 23.1% Macedonian @ 2.21
2 75.7% CEU + 24.3% Montenegrian @ 2.28
3 71.4% Cornish + 28.6% Montenegrian @ 2.42
4 66% Orcadian + 34% Montenegrian @ 2.44
5 67.4% Orcadian + 32.6% Macedonian @ 2.44
6 77% CEU + 23% Bulgarians @ 2.45
7 76.7% Welsh + 23.3% Montenegrian @ 2.45
8 78.3% CEU + 21.7% Gagauz @ 2.52
9 72.6% Cornish + 27.4% Serb_Serbia @ 2.6
10 76.9% CEU + 23.1% Serb_Serbia @ 2.6
11 77.8% Welsh + 22.2% Serb_Serbia @ 2.62
12 72.8% Cornish + 27.2% Macedonian @ 2.69
13 78% Welsh + 22% Macedonian @ 2.69
14 78% Welsh + 22% Bulgarians @ 2.7
15 80.4% Welsh + 19.6% Russian_South @ 2.75
16 72.9% Cornish + 27.1% Bulgarians @ 2.78
17 77.4% CEU + 22.6% Kosovar @ 2.81
18 67.8% Swede + 32.2% Corsican @ 2.85
19 67.5% Orcadian + 32.5% Bulgarians @ 2.87
20 67.3% Orcadian + 32.7% Serb_Serbia @ 2.88

dp
08-27-2014, 09:27 PM
ethnicity: Caucasian [British Isles, France, Amerindian]

2474
MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle

Kit F345900

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 34.88
2 East_European 26.27
3 Mediterranean 12.61
4 Caucasian 9.72
5 Volga-Uralic 3.74
6 Sami-Finnic 2.73
7 Afroasiatic 2.35
8 South_Central_Asian 1.86
9 Roma 1.85
10 East_Siberian 1.17
11 Amerindian 1.05
12 East_African 0.84
13 Archaic_African 0.65
14 Melano-Austronesian 0.18
15 South_Indian 0.09
16 West_Siberian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 South-German 4.43
2 N._European 8.53
3 Mixed_European 9.48
4 Belgian 10.06
5 Austrian 10.29
6 North_German 10.66
7 French 11.49
8 Welsh 12.47
9 CEU 12.73
10 Mixed_German 13.03
11 Swede 13.04
12 British_Kent 14.82
13 Cornish 14.9
14 Occitan 15.26
15 Swedish 15.35
16 Scottish_Argyll 17.23
17 Orcadian 17.89
18 Spanish_Extremadura 18.13
19 Hungarians 18.98
20 Portugese 19.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.8% CEU + 35.2% Montenegrian @ 2.6
2 66.6% CEU + 33.4% Macedonian @ 2.61
3 56.5% Orcadian + 43.5% Montenegrian @ 2.65
4 58.4% Orcadian + 41.6% Macedonian @ 2.75
5 57.5% Scottish_Argyll + 42.5% Montenegrian @ 2.79
6 66.7% CEU + 33.3% Bulgarians @ 2.85
7 66.4% CEU + 33.6% Serb_Serbia @ 2.86
8 61.1% Cornish + 38.9% Montenegrian @ 2.88
9 62.7% British_Kent + 37.3% Serb_Serbia @ 2.89
10 87.6% South-German + 12.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.92
11 77% South-German + 23% French @ 2.93
12 62.6% Cornish + 37.4% Serb_Serbia @ 2.96
13 68.5% CEU + 31.5% Gagauz @ 2.97
14 58.1% Orcadian + 41.9% Serb_Serbia @ 2.98
15 89% South-German + 11% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3.04
16 66.6% Cornish + 33.4% Russian_South @ 3.05
17 64.9% Swede + 35.1% Toscani @ 3.05
18 64.7% French + 35.3% German @ 3.1
19 92% South-German + 8% French_Basque @ 3.1
20 59.1% Scottish_Argyll + 40.9% Serb_Serbia @ 3.13

dp
08-27-2014, 09:29 PM
ethnicity: Caucasian [British Isles, France, Bermuda]

2475

MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle

Kit F345328

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 37.77
2 East_European 27.34
3 Mediterranean 10.64
4 Caucasian 8.62
5 Sami-Finnic 2.52
6 Volga-Uralic 2.19
7 Afroasiatic 2.1
8 West_Siberian 1.6
9 South_Central_Asian 1.57
10 Archaic_African 1.37
11 South_Indian 1.28
12 Amerindian 0.77
13 East_African 0.77
14 Melano-Austronesian 0.6
15 Roma 0.53
16 Arctic 0.34

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 South-German 5.52
2 N._European 7.54
3 Belgian 8.08
4 North_German 8.98
5 Mixed_European 9.27
6 CEU 10.08
7 Welsh 10.11
8 Mixed_German 10.36
9 Swede 10.83
10 French 11.26
11 Austrian 11.96
12 Cornish 12.39
13 British_Kent 12.57
14 Swedish 12.7
15 Scottish_Argyll 15.12
16 Orcadian 15.29
17 Occitan 16.77
18 British 19.11
19 Norwegian 19.33
20 Spanish_Extremadura 19.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.8% CEU + 26.2% Serb_Serbia @ 2.89
2 72.8% CEU + 27.2% Montenegrian @ 2.98
3 67.5% South-German + 32.5% CEU @ 2.99
4 72.2% South-German + 27.8% Cornish @ 3.03
5 80.4% South-German + 19.6% British @ 3.03
6 69.2% Cornish + 30.8% Croat_BH @ 3.07
7 73.7% CEU + 26.3% Croat_BH @ 3.08
8 72.7% South-German + 27.3% British_Kent @ 3.1
9 73.9% CEU + 26.1% Serb_BH @ 3.12
10 69.4% Cornish + 30.6% Serb_BH @ 3.13
11 76.6% South-German + 23.4% Scottish_Argyll @ 3.16
12 68.6% Cornish + 31.4% Bosnian @ 3.18
13 76.9% South-German + 23.1% Orcadian @ 3.21
14 68.1% South-German + 31.9% Welsh @ 3.21
15 55.4% Mixed_European + 44.6% French @ 3.22
16 73.3% CEU + 26.7% Bosnian @ 3.23
17 73.5% CEU + 26.5% Croat @ 3.25
18 68.9% Cornish + 31.1% Croat @ 3.28
19 77% CEU + 23% Russian_South @ 3.3
20 74.5% CEU + 25.5% Macedonian @ 3.32

dp
08-27-2014, 09:35 PM
Dear Vadim,
I separated this query from the results post for my mother's kit. Hopefully that's ok. Ref: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3026-MDLP-ancient-roots-!-!&p=49740#post49740
My mom's kit is F345900. She has 1.17% East_Siberian and 1.05% Amerindian. Below is a photo of her great-grandmother:
http://www.anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2194&d=1406988999
FTDNA does not show either of us having Native American ancestry which baffles us.
PS: I'm glad to see both East and West Siberian categories. I had heretofore assumed that our Siberian results in GEDmatch admix calculators were from Eastern European ancestors. For example, in a paternal relative's kit, F345328, this is the case as he now comes up with West Siberian.

jesus
08-27-2014, 11:04 PM
Hello. I'm 1/4 qashqai from shiraz ( paternal grandpa, with distant afshar ancestry) 1/4 azeri ( maternal grandpa, with distant afshar/terekeme ancestry and 1/2 shirazi persian ( both maternal grandmas ). I'm from Kuwait and my family left iran in the late 1890s & the the 1920s.

admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 24.19
2 Caucasian 18.35
3 Mediterranean 17.23
4 Afroasiatic 12.55
5 South_Indian 6.67
6 Roma 5.11
7 East_African 4
8 North_West_European 2.77
9 Volga-Uralic 2.4
10 Archaic_African 2.1
11 Arctic 1.62
12 Amerindian 0.89
13 East_European 0.86
14 Melano-Austronesian 0.71
15 West_Siberian 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians 7.59
2 Uzbekistan_Jew 11.45
3 Kurd 12.28
4 Kurds 12.96
5 Azeri 13.59
6 Iraki 14.03
7 Kurd_Jew 16.04
8 Turkmens 16.59
9 Uzbekistani_Jews 17.68
10 Iran_Jew 17.96
11 Jew_Tat 18.76
12 Syrians 19.23
13 Tajiks 19.39
14 Uzbek 20.24
15 Turks 20.37
16 Iraqi_Jews 20.61
17 Tadjik 20.72
18 Jordanians 21.65
19 Pashtun 21.68
20 Turkish_Aydin 22.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Iraki + 33.3% Pathan @ 4.98
2 54% Pashtun + 46% Lebanese @ 5.03
3 58.1% Jordanians + 41.9% Kalash @ 5.16
4 88.9% Iranians + 11.1% Brahmins_UP @ 5.24
5 88.5% Iranians + 11.5% Kshatriya @ 5.3
6 89.3% Iranians + 10.7% Meghawal @ 5.32
7 86.7% Iranians + 13.3% Tiwari @ 5.34
8 88.9% Iranians + 11.1% Brahmins_Tamil @ 5.36
9 89% Iranians + 11% AP_Brahmin @ 5.38
10 89.8% Iranians + 10.2% Srivastava @ 5.39
11 83.1% Iranians + 16.9% Pathan @ 5.41
12 90.5% Iranians + 9.5% Dharkars @ 5.44
13 85.9% Iranians + 14.1% Sindhi @ 5.44
14 90% Iranians + 10% Tharus @ 5.44
15 89.1% Iranians + 10.9% TN_Brahmin @ 5.46
16 88.9% Iranians + 11.1% Vaish @ 5.46
17 90.2% Iranians + 9.8% Marwadi-Middle-caste @ 5.5
18 87.3% Iranians + 12.7% Nepalese @ 5.5
19 91% Iranians + 9% Kanjars @ 5.52
20 50% Pashtun + 50% Jordanians @ 5.57

Sein
08-27-2014, 11:30 PM
Hello. I'm 1/4 qashqai from shiraz ( paternal grandpa, with distant afshar ancestry) 1/4 azeri ( maternal grandpa, with distant afshar/terekeme ancestry and 1/2 shirazi persian ( both maternal grandmas ). I'm from Kuwait and my family left iran in the late 1890s & the the 1920s.

admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 24.19
2 Caucasian 18.35
3 Mediterranean 17.23
4 Afroasiatic 12.55
5 South_Indian 6.67
6 Roma 5.11
7 East_African 4
8 North_West_European 2.77
9 Volga-Uralic 2.4
10 Archaic_African 2.1
11 Arctic 1.62
12 Amerindian 0.89
13 East_European 0.86
14 Melano-Austronesian 0.71
15 West_Siberian 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians 7.59
2 Uzbekistan_Jew 11.45
3 Kurd 12.28
4 Kurds 12.96
5 Azeri 13.59
6 Iraki 14.03
7 Kurd_Jew 16.04
8 Turkmens 16.59
9 Uzbekistani_Jews 17.68
10 Iran_Jew 17.96
11 Jew_Tat 18.76
12 Syrians 19.23
13 Tajiks 19.39
14 Uzbek 20.24
15 Turks 20.37
16 Iraqi_Jews 20.61
17 Tadjik 20.72
18 Jordanians 21.65
19 Pashtun 21.68
20 Turkish_Aydin 22.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Iraki + 33.3% Pathan @ 4.98
2 54% Pashtun + 46% Lebanese @ 5.03
3 58.1% Jordanians + 41.9% Kalash @ 5.16
4 88.9% Iranians + 11.1% Brahmins_UP @ 5.24
5 88.5% Iranians + 11.5% Kshatriya @ 5.3
6 89.3% Iranians + 10.7% Meghawal @ 5.32
7 86.7% Iranians + 13.3% Tiwari @ 5.34
8 88.9% Iranians + 11.1% Brahmins_Tamil @ 5.36
9 89% Iranians + 11% AP_Brahmin @ 5.38
10 89.8% Iranians + 10.2% Srivastava @ 5.39
11 83.1% Iranians + 16.9% Pathan @ 5.41
12 90.5% Iranians + 9.5% Dharkars @ 5.44
13 85.9% Iranians + 14.1% Sindhi @ 5.44
14 90% Iranians + 10% Tharus @ 5.44
15 89.1% Iranians + 10.9% TN_Brahmin @ 5.46
16 88.9% Iranians + 11.1% Vaish @ 5.46
17 90.2% Iranians + 9.8% Marwadi-Middle-caste @ 5.5
18 87.3% Iranians + 12.7% Nepalese @ 5.5
19 91% Iranians + 9% Kanjars @ 5.52
20 50% Pashtun + 50% Jordanians @ 5.57

Very distinctive results, quite unique.

everest59
08-27-2014, 11:41 PM
Welcome to the forum Jesus. I knew your background from a different board. Quite interesting for sure.

everest59
08-27-2014, 11:43 PM
I'm gonna post data for the rest of my ancient DNA samples (from the Swedish study). I'll update this as I finish running. Let me know if you guys see any errors.





Ajv52:
0.00% Caucasian
0.01% Melano-Austronesian
9.95% Volga-Uralic
0.00% East_Siberian
0.00% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
6.12% South_Indian
22.98% North_West_European
8.08% Sami-Finnic
0.00% South_East_Asian
2.97% Archaic_African
0.00% Mediterranean
2.70% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
41.56% East_European
0.00% Roma
4.03% East_African
1.59% Amerindian

Ajv53:
7.62% Caucasian
0.00% Melano-Austronesian
2.33% Volga-Uralic
7.54% East_Siberian
6.25% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Indian
19.52% North_West_European
2.27% Sami-Finnic
0.00% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
9.16% Mediterranean
2.13% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
43.18% East_European
0.01% Roma
0.00% East_African
0.00% Amerindian

Ajv59 :
8.54% Caucasian
0.00% Melano-Austronesian
1.72% Volga-Uralic
8.17% East_Siberian
6.48% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Indian
18.36% North_West_European
1.89% Sami-Finnic
0.00% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
9.71% Mediterranean
1.99% Arctic
0.18% Afroasiatic
42.96% East_European
0.00% Roma
0.00% East_African
0.00% Amerindian

Ajv70:
5.64% Caucasian
0.00% Melano-Austronesian
3.29% Volga-Uralic
7.82% East_Siberian
4.75% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Indian
19.12% North_West_European
3.55% Sami-Finnic
0.00% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
8.91% Mediterranean
1.77% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
45.10% East_European
0.04% Roma
0.00% East_African
0.02% Amerindian

SFF11:
0.00% Caucasian
2.36% Melano-Austronesian
9.58% Volga-Uralic
0.00% East_Siberian
4.54% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
5.00% South_Indian
22.90% North_West_European
3.98% Sami-Finnic
0.00% South_East_Asian
1.19% Archaic_African
0.00% Mediterranean
0.00% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
44.16% East_European
0.00% Roma
6.04% East_African
0.25% Amerindian

IRE8:
7.45% Caucasian
0.00% Melano-Austronesian
2.26% Volga-Uralic
7.86% East_Siberian
6.01% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Indian
19.43% North_West_European
2.10% Sami-Finnic
0.00% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
8.93% Mediterranean
2.13% Arctic
0.00% Afroasiatic
43.83% East_European
0.01% Roma
0.00% East_African
0.00% Amerindian

Rukha
08-28-2014, 12:07 AM
my results, my father is a panjshiri tajik and mom a pashtun from wardak.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 27.92
2 Caucasian 22.07
3 South_Indian 13.4
4 East_European 8.14
5 Roma 5.11
6 Volga-Uralic 4.2
7 Mediterranean 3.53
8 North_West_European 2.78
9 Amerindian 2.49
10 East_Siberian 2.22
11 Afroasiatic 2.06
12 South_East_Asian 1.96
13 Sami-Finnic 1.37
14 West_Siberian 1.14
15 Archaic_African 0.93
16 Melano-Austronesian 0.67

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pashtun 7.65
2 Tajiks 9.28
3 Tadjik 10.06
4 Uzbek 13.73
5 Pathan 14.88
6 Burusho 16.71
7 Turkmens 16.81
8 Kalash 17.16
9 Turkmen 22.88
10 Iranians 23.47
11 Sindhi 23.62
12 Azeri 24.05
13 Azeri_Dagestan 24.16
14 Kurd 24.29
15 Pakistani 24.64
16 Tiwari 24.86
17 Uzbeks 25.03
18 Lezgin 25.31
19 Uzbekistan_Jew 25.68
20 Mumbai_Jews 26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% Pashtun + 13.4% Mixed_East_European @ 5.27
2 67.2% Pathan + 32.8% Nogais @ 5.29
3 68.1% Pathan + 31.9% Kumyks @ 5.52
4 87.8% Pashtun + 12.2% Romanians @ 5.59
5 85.5% Pashtun + 14.5% Crimean_Tatar @ 5.62
6 86.6% Pashtun + 13.4% Azov_Greek @ 5.86
7 88.9% Pashtun + 11.1% Gagauz @ 5.9
8 85.5% Pashtun + 14.5% Nogais @ 5.96
9 71.1% Pathan + 28.9% Cirkassian @ 6
10 89.7% Pashtun + 10.3% Macedonian @ 6.06
11 89.9% Pashtun + 10.1% Montenegrian @ 6.06
12 89.7% Pashtun + 10.3% Bulgarians @ 6.08
13 90.1% Pashtun + 9.9% Serb_Serbia @ 6.09
14 73.7% Pathan + 26.3% Balkars @ 6.1
15 63.8% Kalash + 36.2% Nogais @ 6.1
16 89.9% Pashtun + 10.1% Russian_South @ 6.1
17 90.5% Pashtun + 9.5% Bosnian @ 6.13
18 86.9% Pashtun + 13.1% Turkish_Aydin @ 6.15
19 88.1% Pashtun + 11.9% Cirkassian @ 6.16
20 93.3% Pashtun + 6.7% Mixed_Slav @ 6.18

bored
08-28-2014, 12:18 AM
^^

Hello Greendale, everest59, and jesus :biggrin1:

soulblighter
08-28-2014, 01:13 AM
All ancestors belong to Vadama Iyer ethnicity from Tamil Nadu in South India.

From Gedmatch

Caucasian 5.51%
Melano-Austronesian 0.75%
Volga-Uralic 4.78%
East_Siberian 0.33%
West_Siberian 2.16%
South_Central_Asian 28.59%
South_Indian 44.66%
North_West_European 0.40%
Sami-Finnic -
South_East_Asian 2.67%
Archaic_African 1.08%
Mediterranean 0.75%
Arctic -
Afroasiatic 2.49%
East_European 2.15%
Roma 3.62%
East_African -
Amerindian

Arbogan
08-28-2014, 01:16 AM
Hello. I'm 1/4 qashqai from shiraz ( paternal grandpa, with distant afshar ancestry) 1/4 azeri ( maternal grandpa, with distant afshar/terekeme ancestry and 1/2 shirazi persian ( both maternal grandmas ). I'm from Kuwait and my family left iran in the late 1890s & the the 1920s.

admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 24.19
2 Caucasian 18.35
3 Mediterranean 17.23
4 Afroasiatic 12.55
5 South_Indian 6.67
6 Roma 5.11
7 East_African 4
8 North_West_European 2.77
9 Volga-Uralic 2.4
10 Archaic_African 2.1
11 Arctic 1.62
12 Amerindian 0.89
13 East_European 0.86
14 Melano-Austronesian 0.71
15 West_Siberian 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians 7.59
2 Uzbekistan_Jew 11.45
3 Kurd 12.28
4 Kurds 12.96
5 Azeri 13.59
6 Iraki 14.03
7 Kurd_Jew 16.04
8 Turkmens 16.59
9 Uzbekistani_Jews 17.68
10 Iran_Jew 17.96
11 Jew_Tat 18.76
12 Syrians 19.23
13 Tajiks 19.39
14 Uzbek 20.24
15 Turks 20.37
16 Iraqi_Jews 20.61
17 Tadjik 20.72
18 Jordanians 21.65
19 Pashtun 21.68
20 Turkish_Aydin 22.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Iraki + 33.3% Pathan @ 4.98
2 54% Pashtun + 46% Lebanese @ 5.03
3 58.1% Jordanians + 41.9% Kalash @ 5.16
4 88.9% Iranians + 11.1% Brahmins_UP @ 5.24
5 88.5% Iranians + 11.5% Kshatriya @ 5.3
6 89.3% Iranians + 10.7% Meghawal @ 5.32
7 86.7% Iranians + 13.3% Tiwari @ 5.34
8 88.9% Iranians + 11.1% Brahmins_Tamil @ 5.36
9 89% Iranians + 11% AP_Brahmin @ 5.38
10 89.8% Iranians + 10.2% Srivastava @ 5.39
11 83.1% Iranians + 16.9% Pathan @ 5.41
12 90.5% Iranians + 9.5% Dharkars @ 5.44
13 85.9% Iranians + 14.1% Sindhi @ 5.44
14 90% Iranians + 10% Tharus @ 5.44
15 89.1% Iranians + 10.9% TN_Brahmin @ 5.46
16 88.9% Iranians + 11.1% Vaish @ 5.46
17 90.2% Iranians + 9.8% Marwadi-Middle-caste @ 5.5
18 87.3% Iranians + 12.7% Nepalese @ 5.5
19 91% Iranians + 9% Kanjars @ 5.52
20 50% Pashtun + 50% Jordanians @ 5.57

Do you have afro-arabian or arabian ancestry?

jesus
08-28-2014, 01:30 AM
Do you have afro-arabian or arabian ancestry?

Not that I know of. My ancestors used to work in trade for a long time, so everything might be possible.

Gray Fox
08-28-2014, 03:52 AM
Thank you everyone for sharing your results, however i would ask for including more detailed your information about your origin.

Predominantly British (English, Scottish, Ulster-Scot, Welsh), German Palatinate and trace amounts of Irish and French Huguenot. Nothing else confirmed beyond speculation.

vettor
08-28-2014, 06:54 AM
Thank you everyone for sharing your results, however i would ask for including more detailed your information about your origin.

how much detail .......regional level?

leonardo
08-28-2014, 12:31 PM
# Population Percent
1 East_European 29.37
2 North_West_European 28.61
3 Mediterranean 13.98
4 Caucasian 8.91
5 South_Central_Asian 4.78
6 Sami-Finnic 3.23
7 Roma 2.42
8 Volga-Uralic 2.16
9 Afroasiatic 1.75
10 South_Indian 1.35
11 West_Siberian 1.23
12 Arctic 1.03
13 Amerindian 0.86
14 East_Siberian 0.21
15 Archaic_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 4.91
2 South-German 5.11

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60% Swede + 40% Kosovar @ 2.22
2 61.5% Swede + 38.5% Greek @ 2.46
3 75.6% North_German + 24.4% Romanian_Jews @ 2.54
4 55.9% Serb_Serbia + 44.1% Orcadian @ 2.54
5 80.8% Austrian + 19.2% Occitan @ 2.57

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU +50% Serb_Serbia @ 2.873678


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belgian +25% Gagauz +25% German @ 2.396249


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Central-Greek + Mixed_CEU + N._European + North_German @ 1.678904
2 Central-Greek + N._European + Slovak + Swedish @ 1.731483
3 Hungarians + Kosovar + N._European + Swedish @ 1.772091

My ancestry, as best I can tell, is 50% Germanic-Slavic, 37.5% British Isles/Irish and 12.5% south-central Italian.

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 02:47 PM
I've had to reconsider the design of Ancient_Roots calculator by excluding the uninformative Roma component from K-list and including population_tweaks into reference table.
The beta-release of K17 includes calculator files as well as Oracle R-workspace, based on Dodecad's Oracle (the main function is TOracle() ).

Please read DIYDodecad's page and follow instructions on page.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6n7iMc2P-yQaWhVWTZkczJtLUk/edit?usp=sharing

In K17, the component labels have been changed to

Caucasian-Basal
Melano-Austronesian
Uralic
Ancestral_East_Siberian
Ancestral_West_Siberian
Ancestral_North_Indian
Ancestral_South_Indian
West_European_HG
Ancestral_Sami-Finnic
South_East_Asian
Archaic_African
Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF
Circumpolar
Near-East-Basal
Ancestral_East_European_ANE
African_Sub_Saharian
Amerindian

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 03:06 PM
Please let me know if you'll detect mistakes of weird results.

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 03:12 PM
What's Ancestral North Indian? Is that just South Central Asian? I think the latter might be a better name.

DMXX
08-28-2014, 03:23 PM
My results (if anyone's interested in comparing, I've included the original order below). The population sharing results are in perfect agreement with other calculators (particularly mixed mode).

Component Scores
27.09% Caucasian-Basal
22.56% Ancestral_North_Indi
19.11% Ancestral_Mediterran
9.86% Near-East-Basal
6.81% Ancestral_East_Europ
4.15% Ancestral_South_Indi
2.20% South_East_Asian
1.91% Circumpolar
1.84% Ancestral_West_Siber
1.54% West_European_HG
0.68% Archaic_African
0.55% Melano-Austronesian
0.51% Amerindian
0.42% Uralic
0.40% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
0.29% African_Sub_Saharian
0.07% Ancestral_East_Siber

Single Population Matching
[1,] "Iranian" "5.0386"
[2,] "Kurds_North" "7.0193"
[3,] "Azeri" "7.06"
[4,] "Kurds_East" "7.2884"
[5,] "Kurds_South" "7.3778"
[6,] "Kurd" "10.2548"
[7,] "Iranian Assyrian" "11.8437"
[8,] "Uzbekistani_Jew" "11.9355"
[9,] "Assiryan" "13.527"
[10,] "Turk" "13.6829"
[11,] "Iraqi_Mandean" "13.8401"
[12,] "Jew_Tat" "15.3797"
[13,] "Kurd_Jew" "15.5408"
[14,] "Non-Iranian Assyrian" "16.2329"
[15,] "Iraki" "16.4857"
[16,] "Turkmens" "16.7205"
[17,] "Iran_Jew" "16.8936"
[18,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "18.9337"
[19,] "Turk_Aydin" "19.8096"
[20,] "Iraqi_Jew" "20.0149"

Mixed Mode Population Sharing
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "4.6% Belarusian + 95.4% Iranian" "3.8862"
[2,] "95.8% Iranian + 4.2% Lithuanian" "3.8933"
[3,] "95.8% Iranian + 4.2% Mixed_Slav" "3.9001"
[4,] "95.7% Iranian + 4.3% Latvian" "3.9235"
[5,] "95.1% Iranian + 4.9% Ukrainian" "3.9288"
[6,] "5% Don_cossack + 95% Iranian" "3.9411"
[7,] "95.4% Iranian + 4.6% Kuban_cossack" "3.9415"
[8,] "95.3% Iranian + 4.7% Pole" "3.9416"
[9,] "91.7% Iranian + 8.3% Mixed_East_European" "3.9453"
[10,] "4.6% Belarusian-West + 95.4% Iranian" "3.9475"
[11,] "4.7% Belarusian-East + 95.3% Iranian" "3.9533"
[12,] "95% Iranian + 5% Ukranian" "3.9585"
[13,] "95.2% Iranian + 4.8% Sorbs" "3.959"
[14,] "95.5% Iranian + 4.5% Russian-Center" "3.969"
[15,] "4.3% Estonian + 95.7% Iranian" "4.0084"
[16,] "95% Iranian + 5% Russian-South" "4.0104"
[17,] "5.1% Hungarian + 94.9% Iranian" "4.0181"
[18,] "95.1% Iranian + 4.9% Russian-West" "4.0251"
[19,] "95.4% Iranian + 4.6% Russian-North-West" "4.0341"
[20,] "94.9% Iranian + 5.1% Ukrainian-East" "4.0453"




27.09% Caucasian-Basal
0.55% Melano-Austronesian
0.42% Uralic
0.07% Ancestral_East_Siber
1.84% Ancestral_West_Siber
22.56% Ancestral_North_Indi
4.15% Ancestral_South_Indi
1.54% West_European_HG
0.40% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
2.20% South_East_Asian
0.68% Archaic_African
19.11% Ancestral_Mediterran
1.91% Circumpolar
9.86% Near-East-Basal
6.81% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.29% African_Sub_Saharian
0.51% Amerindian

MfA
08-28-2014, 03:26 PM
.....

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 03:27 PM
My results:

13.84% Caucasian-Basal
0.84% Melano-Austronesian
4.43% Uralic
1.58% Ancestral_East_Siber
1.11% Ancestral_West_Siber
31.24% Ancestral_North_Indi
34.08% Ancestral_South_Indi
1.04% West_European_HG
1.85% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
0.01% South_East_Asian
0.98% Archaic_African
0.00% Ancestral_Mediterran
0.97% Circumpolar
0.01% Near-East-Basal
6.10% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.02% African_Sub_Saharian
1.90% Amerindian

These are certainly different. North Indian is significantly higher than my old South Central Asian score.

Oracle:

[1,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.9367"
[2,] "Tiwari" "6.3658"
[3,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "7.7522"
[4,] "Pakistani" "8.784"
[5,] "Burusho" "11.7474"
[6,] "Brahmin_Karnataka" "13.0068"
[7,] "Pathan" "13.9626"
[8,] "Kshatriya" "14.1236"
[9,] "Vaish" "14.7513"
[10,] "Sindhi" "16.5442"

[1,] "74.7% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim + 25.3% Tiwari" "3.4984"
[2,] "2.2% Ossetian + 97.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.6436"
[3,] "2.5% Chechen + 97.5% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.6494"
[4,] "97.4% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim + 2.6% Urkarah" "3.6538"
[5,] "2% Abhkasian + 98% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.6688"
[6,] "2.2% North-Ossetian + 97.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.6709"
[7,] "1.9% Georgians + 98.1% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.688"
[8,] "2.2% Adygei + 97.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.6933"
[9,] "1.8% Georgian_Imereti + 98.2% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.6957"
[10,] "2.5% Lak + 97.5% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.702"

MfA
08-28-2014, 03:35 PM
For those who wants to run oracle function: Open oracle file, place your calculator results as presented below and hit enter

These are my values for example


TOracle(c(32.45,0.02,2.54,1.31,0.50,20.43,2.10,1.7 4,0.02,0.02,0.05,23.29,1.50,8.21,4.49,0.49,0.84), k=20)
TOracle(c(32.45,0.02,2.54,1.31,0.50,20.43,2.10,1.7 4,0.02,0.02,0.05,23.29,1.50,8.21,4.49,0.49,0.84), mixedmode=T, k=20)

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 03:53 PM
Ok, it looks good so far.
The labels themselves, however, is a matter of convention, and can be easily changed.

Arbogan
08-28-2014, 03:54 PM
I've had to reconsider the design of Ancient_Roots calculator by excluding the uninformative Roma component from K-list and including population_tweaks into reference table.
The beta-release of K17 includes calculator files as well as Oracle R-workspace, based on Dodecad's Oracle (the main function is TOracle() ).

Please read DIYDodecad's page and follow instructions on page.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6n7iMc2P-yQaWhVWTZkczJtLUk/edit?usp=sharing

In K17, the component labels have been changed to

Caucasian-Basal
Melano-Austronesian
Uralic
Ancestral_East_Siberian
Ancestral_West_Siberian
Ancestral_North_Indian
Ancestral_South_Indian
West_European_HG
Ancestral_Sami-Finnic
South_East_Asian
Archaic_African
Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF
Circumpolar
Near-East-Basal
Ancestral_East_European_ANE
African_Sub_Saharian
Amerindian

How many SNPs did you use for both tests?

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 04:05 PM
HRP0370 (Afghan Pashtun, Durrani from Kandahar)

22.88% Caucasian-Basal
0.00% Melano-Austronesian
4.05% Uralic
0.80% Ancestral_East_Siber
3.32% Ancestral_West_Siber
29.21% Ancestral_North_Indi
13.48% Ancestral_South_Indi
2.26% West_European_HG
1.73% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
0.33% South_East_Asian
0.42% Archaic_African
5.53% Ancestral_Mediterran
0.99% Circumpolar
3.57% Near-East-Basal
9.84% Ancestral_East_Europ
1.00% African_Sub_Saharian
0.62% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Tajik-panjshiri " "4.6291"
[2,] "Central_Asian" "4.7354"
[3,] "Pashtun" "9.85"
[4,] "Tajik" "11.5747"
[5,] "Uzbek" "16.7328"
[6,] "Pathan" "17.4705"
[7,] "Kalash" "18.4462"
[8,] "Turkmens" "18.6734"
[9,] "Burusho" "20.1422"
[10,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "20.998"


[1,] "5.6% Syrian + 94.4% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.0715"
[2,] "9.3% Iranian + 90.7% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.0761"
[3,] "5.9% Non-Iranian Assyrian + 94.1% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.0853"
[4,] "6.2% Assiryan + 93.8% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.1063"
[5,] "5.8% Jew_Tat + 94.2% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.1198"
[6,] "96% Tajik-panjshiri + 4% Turk_Trabzon" "4.1207"
[7,] "5.2% Armenian_Yerevan + 94.8% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.1296"
[8,] "4.5% Palestinian + 95.5% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.1305"
[9,] "4.8% Jordanian + 95.2% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.1418"
[10,] "6% Iraki + 94% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.1427"

This is the first calculator that didn't peg HRP0370 as primarily Pashtun. I think Afghan Tajik would have near identical admixture though.

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 04:14 PM
How many SNPs did you use for both tests?

Circa 136 000

Arbogan
08-28-2014, 04:18 PM
Circa 136 000
It would be interesting to see what it would look like, if you used 180k.

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 04:26 PM
HRP0402, Punjabi Jatt Muslim (his results are usually typical of Punjabi Jatt Muslims)

15.84% Caucasian-Basal
0.48% Melano-Austronesian
4.15% Uralic
0.00% Ancestral_East_Siber
2.31% Ancestral_West_Siber
36.83% Ancestral_North_Indi
27.69% Ancestral_South_Indi
3.95% West_European_HG
0.03% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
0.00% South_East_Asian
0.67% Archaic_African
0.05% Ancestral_Mediterran
2.63% Circumpolar
0.01% Near-East-Basal
3.92% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.95% African_Sub_Saharian
0.47% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Pathan" "6.6596"
[2,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "7.7922"
[3,] "Burusho" "8.3519"
[4,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "10.0776"
[5,] "Sindhi" "11.6696"
[6,] "Pakistani" "11.7358"
[7,] "Tiwari" "12.5321"
[8,] "Kalash" "14.1463"
[9,] "Pashtun" "16.6804"
[10,] "Brahmin_Karnataka" "17.4405"

[1,] "15.8% Irula + 84.2% Kalash" "4.3615"
[2,] "85.5% Kalash + 14.5% Pulliyar" "4.4319"
[3,] "46.6% Kalash + 53.4% Tiwari" "4.5027"
[4,] "84.8% Kalash + 15.2% Paniya" "4.5039"
[5,] "19.6% Chenchu + 80.4% Kalash" "4.5956"
[6,] "71.5% Kalash + 28.5% Lambadi" "4.6338"
[7,] "71.2% Pathan + 28.8% Tiwari" "4.719"
[8,] "19% Hallaki + 81% Kalash" "4.727"
[9,] "80.4% Kalash + 19.6% Kurumba" "4.7756"
[10,] "6% Irula + 94% Pathan" "4.7991"


It looks like you've used me as a reference for Punjabi Jatt Muslim but I think that's a mistake. Mine and my family's results have been unusual. The several Punjabi Jatt Muslims we've seen on Harappa are of Pahari origin and share similar results to HRP0402 so I think HRP0402 and HRP0283 (whose K18 results are in the spreadsheet I linked previously here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuXBmvmgdkfVdFMtRHVlZDBuQ3lMcjhxMDE4V3JoY lE&usp=drive_web#gid=15)) should be the standard for 'Punjabi Jatt Muslim'. Or you can leave us as that and use HRP0402 and HRP0283 for a group called 'Pahari Jatt Muslim'

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 04:40 PM
HRP0393, Haryana Jatt

14.02% Caucasian-Basal
0.24% Melano-Austronesian
7.84% Uralic
0.00% Ancestral_East_Siber
2.44% Ancestral_West_Siber
29.02% Ancestral_North_Indi
28.45% Ancestral_South_Indi
4.22% West_European_HG
0.89% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
0.00% South_East_Asian
0.07% Archaic_African
0.00% Ancestral_Mediterran
0.00% Circumpolar
0.00% Near-East-Basal
9.82% Ancestral_East_Europ
1.25% African_Sub_Saharian
1.74% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "8.9698"
[2,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "9.0799"
[3,] "Burusho" "12.6464"
[4,] "Tiwari" "12.7907"
[5,] "Pathan" "12.8516"
[6,] "Pakistani" "14.5777"
[7,] "Brahmin_Karnataka" "18.2797"
[8,] "Pashtun" "18.4387"
[9,] "Tajik-panjshiri " "18.6269"
[10,] "Central_Asian" "18.6654"

[1,] "18.7% Mishar + 81.3% Tiwari" "5.6772"
[2,] "20.1% Tatar + 79.9% Tiwari" "5.6875"
[3,] "12.2% Komi + 87.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "5.7423"
[4,] "86.9% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim + 13.1% Tatar" "5.78"
[5,] "17.7% Moksha + 82.3% Tiwari" "5.831"
[6,] "18.7% Komi + 81.3% Tiwari" "5.8437"
[7,] "11.8% Chuvash + 88.2% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "5.8768"
[8,] "20.2% Tatar-Kazan + 79.8% Tiwari" "5.9938"
[9,] "13.4% Bashkir + 86.6% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "6.0258"
[10,] "11.7% Mishar + 88.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "6.0387"

Not sure why we're getting any WHG since the consensus seems to be that South Asians should be 0% WHG. I know this WHG that the calculator is picking up along with the Uralic is responsible for the elevated NE-Euro in Haryana Jatts though. The "Circumpolar" and "Sami-Finnic" components are probably a better relative indicator of "true" Northeastern Europe admixture signals.

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 05:06 PM
HRP0374, my mother

13.41% Caucasian-Basal
0.46% Melano-Austronesian
4.68% Uralic
0.90% Ancestral_East_Siber
1.76% Ancestral_West_Siber
35.55% Ancestral_North_Indi
31.68% Ancestral_South_Indi
0.14% West_European_HG
0.67% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
0.02% South_East_Asian
0.88% Archaic_African
0.00% Ancestral_Mediterran
0.02% Circumpolar
0.31% Near-East-Basal
6.94% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.00% African_Sub_Saharian
2.59% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "5.2847"
[2,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "5.7804"
[3,] "Pakistani" "7.3535"
[4,] "Tiwari" "8.8999"
[5,] "Burusho" "10.4826"
[6,] "Pathan" "10.6087"
[7,] "Sindhi" "12.6922"
[8,] "Brahmin_Karnataka" "14.9851"
[9,] "Kshatriya" "16.3629"
[10,] "Vaish" "17.4385"

[1,] "18.3% Kalash + 81.7% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.468"
[2,] "62.2% Kalash + 37.8% Lambadi" "3.5965"
[3,] "80.8% Kalash + 19.2% Pulliyar" "3.7376"
[4,] "79.9% Kalash + 20.1% Paniya" "3.8832"
[5,] "74% Kalash + 26% Kurumba" "3.9554"
[6,] "75.2% Kalash + 24.8% Mala" "3.9628"
[7,] "20.7% Irula + 79.3% Kalash" "3.974"
[8,] "25.9% Chenchu + 74.1% Kalash" "4.0045"
[9,] "25.2% Hallaki + 74.8% Kalash" "4.0863"
[10,] "56.5% Kalash + 43.5% Srivastava" "4.1833"

Her South Indian/North Indian scores look pretty good, closest to "normal" I've seen for her out of any calculator.

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 05:18 PM
So far, what is your opinion of this beta-K18?

Dimanto
08-28-2014, 05:27 PM
Me:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 29.20
2 Mediterranean 19.76
3 East_European 17.31
4 Caucasian 13.89
5 Afroasiatic 5.81
6 South_Central_Asian 5.26
7 Roma 3.54
8 Arctic 2.98


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.



--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Occitan @ 12.089180
2 Italian_Piedmont @ 12.473354
3 Toscani @ 13.767457
4 North_Italian @ 14.693634
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 15.934383
6 South-German @ 16.688778
7 Corsican @ 17.112669
8 French @ 17.256830
9 Portugese @ 17.273809
10 Italian_Abruzzo @ 17.334082
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 18.038994
12 N._European @ 19.130537
13 Austrian @ 19.146194
14 Spaniards @ 19.318129
15 Kosovar @ 19.845907
16 Greek @ 20.165926
17 Spanish_Valencia @ 20.198879
18 Belgian @ 21.042624
19 South_Greek @ 21.053488
20 Central-Greek @ 21.166555

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan +50% Norwegian @ 4.003005


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cornish +25% Cypriots +25% Kosovar @ 3.511224


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Jew_Tat + Mixed_German + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC @ 2.660436
2 Bosnian + British_Kent + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC @ 2.685787
3 British_Kent + Jew_Tat + Serb_Serbia + Spain_BASC @ 2.780425
4 Bosnian + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC + Welsh @ 2.841178
5 British_Kent + Croat + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC @ 2.854264
6 Macedonian + Mixed_German + Spain_BASC + Turks @ 2.865298
7 Gagauz + Mixed_German + Spain_BASC + Turks @ 2.890981
8 British_Kent + Kurd_Jew + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC @ 2.902462
9 British_Kent + Croat_BH + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC @ 2.915234
10 British_Kent + Jew_Tat + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC @ 2.941938
11 Bosnian + Cornish + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC @ 2.963346
12 British_Kent + Jew_Tat + Serb_BH + Spain_BASC @ 2.971038
13 CEU + Jew_Tat + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC @ 2.994998
14 Jew_Tat + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC + Welsh @ 3.041930
15 British_Kent + Kurd_Jew + Serb_Serbia + Spain_BASC @ 3.044288
16 Jew_Tat + Mixed_German + Serb_Serbia + Spain_BASC @ 3.054232
17 Jew_Tat + Macedonian + Mixed_German + Spain_BASC @ 3.054879
18 Jew_Tat + Orcadian + Serb_Serbia + Spain_BASC @ 3.089447
19 Austrian + Jew_Tat + South-German + Spain_BASC @ 3.098095
20 Jew_Tat + Montenegrian + Orcadian + Spain_BASC @ 3.118169


My mum (North Dutch):

MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 37.45
2 East_European 30.54
3 Caucasian 9.43
4 Mediterranean 5.85
5 South_Central_Asian 3.88
6 Volga-Uralic 3.28
7 Sami-Finnic 2.46
8 Roma 2.07
9 West_Siberian 2.03
10 Arctic 1.17


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_German @ 5.939215
2 Swede @ 7.059224
3 South-German @ 8.026538
4 Mixed_European @ 8.123647
5 Swedish @ 10.158003
6 Mixed_German @ 10.782798
7 Belgian @ 11.081721
8 N._European @ 11.613391
9 CEU @ 11.645883
10 Welsh @ 12.363678
11 Austrian @ 13.543129
12 British_Kent @ 14.372651
13 Cornish @ 14.550834
14 Orcadian @ 16.668390
15 Scottish_Argyll @ 16.730862
16 French @ 17.382732
17 British @ 20.929392
18 Norwegian @ 21.383087
19 Mixed_CEU @ 21.624165
20 German @ 22.083384

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% British +50% German @ 3.260346


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cornish +25% Scottish_Argyll +25% Ukrainian @ 2.189090

ZephyrousMandaru
08-28-2014, 05:27 PM
MDLP Ancient Roots K17

33.14% Caucasian-Basal
0.60% Melano-Austronesian
0.57% Uralic
0.39% Ancestral_East_Siber
1.44% Ancestral_West_Siber
16.33% Ancestral_North_Indi
0.05% Ancestral_South_Indi
4.34% West_European_HG
0.06% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
0.01% South_East_Asian
0.05% Archaic_African
26.84% Ancestral_Mediterran
0.01% Circumpolar
15.19% Near-East-Basal
0.00% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.98% African_Sub_Saharian
0.00% Amerindian

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 05:28 PM
My father,

13.78% Caucasian-Basal
1.02% Melano-Austronesian
2.15% Uralic
0.00% Ancestral_East_Siber
4.61% Ancestral_West_Siber
31.15% Ancestral_North_Indi
34.29% Ancestral_South_Indi
2.05% West_European_HG
2.35% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
0.02% South_East_Asian
0.85% Archaic_African
0.00% Ancestral_Mediterran
0.40% Circumpolar
0.42% Near-East-Basal
5.39% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.00% African_Sub_Saharian
1.52% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "5.2393"
[2,] "Tiwari" "7.0042"
[3,] "Pakistani" "8.4858"
[4,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "9.2049"
[5,] "Brahmin_Karnataka" "11.6563"
[6,] "Burusho" "12.4555"
[7,] "Vaish" "14.1471"
[8,] "Pathan" "14.2189"
[9,] "Kshatriya" "14.6976"
[10,] "TN_Brahmin" "15.9376"

[1,] "23.7% Lezgin + 76.3% TN_Brahmin" "4.2743"
[2,] "23.5% Tabassaran + 76.5% TN_Brahmin" "4.3358"
[3,] "22.8% Avar + 77.2% TN_Brahmin" "4.5134"
[4,] "22.4% Lak + 77.6% TN_Brahmin" "4.5991"
[5,] "36.3% Central_Asian + 63.7% Vaish" "4.6375"
[6,] "36.3% Tajik-panjshiri + 63.7% Vaish" "4.6559"
[7,] "39.3% Central_Asian + 60.7% TN_Brahmin" "4.7503"
[8,] "39.3% Tajik-panjshiri + 60.7% TN_Brahmin" "4.768"
[9,] "26% Irula + 74% Kalash" "4.7957"
[10,] "74.9% Kalash + 25.1% Paniya" "4.8128"

---

My grandmother (mother of my mother)

15.00% Caucasian-Basal
0.40% Melano-Austronesian
5.65% Uralic
0.01% Ancestral_East_Siber
1.81% Ancestral_West_Siber
34.70% Ancestral_North_Indi
30.82% Ancestral_South_Indi
0.25% West_European_HG
0.01% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
1.38% South_East_Asian
1.10% Archaic_African
0.00% Ancestral_Mediterran
0.36% Circumpolar
0.22% Near-East-Basal
6.57% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.00% African_Sub_Saharian
1.71% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "6.1516"
[2,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "6.3459"
[3,] "Pakistani" "9.0566"
[4,] "Burusho" "9.5998"
[5,] "Tiwari" "9.848"
[6,] "Pathan" "10.3193"
[7,] "Sindhi" "13.7447"
[8,] "Brahmin_Karnataka" "15.9777"
[9,] "Kalash" "17.4878"
[10,] "Kshatriya" "17.7139"

[1,] "80.5% Kalash + 19.5% Paniya" "3.4875"
[2,] "25.1% Chenchu + 74.9% Kalash" "3.5011"
[3,] "20.1% Irula + 79.9% Kalash" "3.6202"
[4,] "81.5% Kalash + 18.5% Pulliyar" "3.756"
[5,] "76.1% Kalash + 23.9% Nihali" "3.9323"
[6,] "21.7% Kalash + 78.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.9365"
[7,] "63.8% Kalash + 36.2% Lambadi" "4.0251"
[8,] "78.1% Kalash + 21.9% Santhal" "4.1864"
[9,] "73.2% Kalash + 26.8% Satnami" "4.3621"
[10,] "75.1% Kalash + 24.9% Kurumba" "4.4575"

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 05:35 PM
So far, what is your opinion of this beta-K18?Much more informative than the old one in my opinion, but I think it's suffering from the same issues all the admixture calculators and oracles are. For example, now it splits up WHG, Uralic, and East European/ANE, which is helpful, but we still don't know why South Asians are getting WHG or why some admixture is split up among East Euro ANE, Circumpolar, Sami-Finnic (what's the difference between Circumpolar and Sami-Finnic anyway?), and West Siberian (or what East Siberian is really).

Knowing the WHG, EEF, and Basal (Near East, Caucasian) is helpful but we still don't really know much about middle or east Asia. Do Circumpolar, Sami-Finnic, West Siberian, East Siberian fall under ANE or ENA? What is North Indian, a renamed South Central Asian? Wouldn't some ANE be going into both Indian components too?

Maybe you could work on a low K calculator that uses just ancient genomes, like ANE, EEF, WHG, pre-AMH (Denisovan/Neanderthal), Archaic African, Basal Caucasian, and maybe crack the different types of ENA (modern East Asian versus ancient ENA like the kind from Southeast Asia versus ENA that drifted off from ANE (Siberian/Arctic)).

Also "ancestral South Indian" is a misnomer since this is modern South Indian. ASI would be approximately half of this if it's similar to Harappa's S-Indian component. Half basal Caucasian/SW-Asian, half ENA.

Dimanto
08-28-2014, 05:37 PM
Most Southern Italians/Sicilians I've seen are being replaced by just ''Greek'' or ''Cretan''..


Much more informative than the old one in my opinion, but I think it's suffering from the same issues all the admixture calculators and oracles are. For example, now it splits up WHG, Uralic, and East European/ANE, which is helpful, but we still don't know why South Asians are getting WHG or why some admixture is split up among East Euro ANE, Circumpolar, Sami-Finnic (what's the difference between Circumpolar and Sami-Finnic anyway?), and West Siberian (or what East Siberian is really).

Knowing the WHG, EEF, and Basal (Near East, Caucasian) is helpful but we still don't really know much about middle or east Asia. Do Circumpolar, Sami-Finnic, West Siberian, East Siberian fall under ANE or ENA? What is North Indian, a renamed South Central Asian? Wouldn't some ANE be going into both Indian components too?

Maybe you could work on a low K calculator that uses just ancient genomes, like ANE, EEF, WHG, pre-AMH (Denisovan/Neanderthal), Archaic African, Basal Caucasian, and maybe crack the different types of ENA (modern East Asian versus ancient ENA like the kind from Southeast Asia).

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 05:47 PM
Most Southern Italians/Sicilians I've seen are being replaced by just ''Greek'' or ''Cretan''..Yeah I think this Oracle is worse than the old one, while the calculator is better.

Dimanto
08-28-2014, 05:49 PM
MDLP never was that good for Southern Italians/Sicilians, the older MDLP world-22 gave me also half Cretan with Oracle-4 under a 2 population setting (other calculators like the 10,11 and 12 placed me as half Central Italian/German, which isn't too far of when taken my Dutch side as central German for example, what would by account pull my Southern Italian side a bit more to the north). My mum is placed as ''North German'' which is quite accurate considering her ancestry though.

Except the MDLP 5,6 and 7 are close to correct:

MDLP K=7 4-Ancestors Oracle


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Paleo_Mediterranean 37.17
2 West_Eurasian 28.16
3 Caucasian 26.87
4 South_Central_Asian 3.85
5 Paleo_Scandinavian 2.74


Finished reading population data. 73 populations found.
7 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 KSV @ 9.132944
2 BLG @ 10.917146
3 RMN @ 12.076067
4 MCD @ 13.472787
5 GGZ @ 13.852705
6 MNT @ 14.193755
7 NITAL @ 16.755714
8 FRN @ 16.846567
9 SRB @ 19.399023
10 CRS @ 22.087421
11 PRT @ 22.106215
12 CITAL @ 22.197321
13 GRK @ 22.222013
14 SPN @ 23.248579
15 IBR @ 23.838234
16 GBRKN @ 25.787807
17 GBRWAL @ 25.942608
18 GBRCORN @ 25.970871
19 BSN @ 26.033749
20 CEU @ 26.887201

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% GER +50% SIC @ 2.776804


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% FRN +25% GGZ +25% GRK @ 2.122574


Yeah I think this Oracle is worse than the old one, while the calculator is better.

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 05:54 PM
Yeah I think this Oracle is worse than the old one, while the calculator is better.

I think that Dimanto was referring to the old K18 Oracle. The new version includes separate categories for Sicilians, based on the results which have been reported by users of the K18.

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 05:58 PM
Results for Sapporo, HRP0341 (Punjabi Jatt Sikh)

15.06% Caucasian-Basal
0.00% Melano-Austronesian
6.63% Uralic
0.45% Ancestral_East_Siber
1.73% Ancestral_West_Siber
36.18% Ancestral_North_Indi
27.28% Ancestral_South_Indi
1.35% West_European_HG
2.53% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
0.00% South_East_Asian
0.00% Archaic_African
0.02% Ancestral_Mediterran
0.75% Circumpolar
0.54% Near-East-Basal
5.18% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.33% African_Sub_Saharian
1.97% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "5.2953"
[2,] "Pathan" "7.1383"
[3,] "Burusho" "8.209"
[4,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "9.2197"
[5,] "Pakistani" "11.6049"
[6,] "Sindhi" "12.03"
[7,] "Tiwari" "12.1765"
[8,] "Kalash" "13.7526"
[9,] "Pashtun" "16.3335"
[10,] "Central_Asian" "18.1983"


[1,] "46.8% Kalash + 53.2% Tiwari" "3.2345"
[2,] "19.6% Chenchu + 80.4% Kalash" "3.2562"
[3,] "15.7% Irula + 84.3% Kalash" "3.3061"
[4,] "85.6% Kalash + 14.4% Pulliyar" "3.4553"
[5,] "84.9% Kalash + 15.1% Paniya" "3.4674"
[6,] "39% Kalash + 61% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.5925"
[7,] "22.6% Kalash + 77.4% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.6184"
[8,] "81.5% Kalash + 18.5% Nihali" "3.8193"
[9,] "71.9% Kalash + 28.1% Lambadi" "3.872"
[10,] "80.6% Kalash + 19.4% Kurumba" "3.9426"

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 06:00 PM
Top-25 for Circumpolar category

Chukchi 99.25
Koryak 84.08
Koryak 81.28
Eskimo 70.08
West_Greenland 52.98
Chipewyan 42.10
Saqqaq 35.65
Yukaghir 33.46
Athabask 29.45
Tlingit 25.15
Algonquin 21.46
Even 20.45
Haida 18.72
Navajo 14.94
Ulchi 14.63
Cree 13.82
Tsimsian 13.20
Even 12.86
Ojibwa 12.59
Apache 10.92
Anzik 8.21
Dolgans 7.71
Afontova-Gora 6.40
Oroqen 6.28


Top-35 in Ancient Sami-Finnic category

Saami 74.31
Saami 52.71
Saami-Finn 45.16
Swede-North-Saami 29.14
Karelian 20.34
Finn 19.36
Vepsa 18.65
Finn-East 17.07
Finn-West 16.40
Pole-East 16.40
Finn 16.4
Finn-East 16.21
Finn 14.51
Dane 14.48
Finn 14.39
Finn-East 14.13
Finn-West 13.54
Russian-North 12.16
North_European 11.72
Finn-Swede 10.47
Gok_merged 10.46
Loshbour 8.89
Icelandic 8.5
Estonian 8.32
Icelandic 8.31
Swede 8.22
Ajv52 8.08
LaBrana-1 7.70
Russian-Ural 7.55
Motala 7.19
Norwegian 7.16
Norwegian 7.16
Dane 6.87
Afontova-Gora 6.76

Shaikorth
08-28-2014, 06:05 PM
What are the total scores for Loshbour in this calculator by the way?

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 06:08 PM
Denisova


Caucasian-Basal 0
Melano-Austronesian 2.05
Uralic 0
Ancestral_East_Siberian 0
Ancestral_West_Siberian 0
Ancestral_North_Indian 0.01
Ancestral_South_Indian 0
West_European_HG 0
Ancestral_Sami-Finnic 0.75
South_East_Asian 0
Archaic_African 45.01
Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF 0
Circumpolar 0
Near-East-Basal 0
Ancestral_East_European_ANE 1.45
African_Sub_Saharian 50.11
Amerindian 0.61


Do Europeans record some traces of ancient admixture with Denisova hominids?

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 06:09 PM
Losnbour's scores


Caucasian-Basal 0.00
Melano-Austronesian 0.00
Uralic 0.00
Ancestral_East_Siberian 0.04
Ancestral_West_Siberian 0.00
Ancestral_North_Indian 0.00
Ancestral_South_Indian 0.00
West_European_HG 35.83
Ancestral_Sami-Finnic 8.89
South_East_Asian 2.14
Archaic_African 0.00
Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF 0.00
Circumpolar 0.00
Near-East-Basal 0.00
Ancestral_East_European_ANE 53.10
African_Sub_Saharian 0.00
Amerindian 0.00


[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Loshbour" "0"
[2,] "74.9% Motala + 25.1% Orcadian" "9.8111"
[3,] "24.8% Cornish + 75.2% Motala" "10.1751"
[4,] "24.8% British_Kent + 75.2% Motala" "10.218"
[5,] "68.6% Motala + 31.4% Norwegian" "10.2581"
[6,] "63.5% Motala + 36.5% Swede" "10.2911"
[7,] "15.2% French_Basque + 84.8% Motala" "10.4928"
[8,] "26% British + 74% Motala" "10.5415"
[9,] "28.6% Mixed_German + 71.4% Motala" "10.5718"
[10,] "76.8% Motala + 23.2% Scottish_Argyll" "10.6072"


Oracle("Loshbour")
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Loshbour" "0"
[2,] "LaBrana-1" "14.1363"
[3,] "Motala" "15.4198"
[4,] "Ajv58" "17.3067"
[5,] "Ajvide_merged" "17.5276"
[6,] "Motala12" "18.6395"
[7,] "Finn-Swede" "21.1937"
[8,] "SF11" "21.3709"
[9,] "Dane" "21.6523"
[10,] "Ajv52" "21.7915"

Dimanto
08-28-2014, 06:16 PM
....................

vettor
08-28-2014, 06:17 PM
Most Southern Italians/Sicilians I've seen are being replaced by just ''Greek'' or ''Cretan''..

this is a system used by natgeno ...........they include albanian also in the term ...Greek

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 06:19 PM
How about MA-1?

Dimanto
08-28-2014, 06:21 PM
No to the one that is now at gedmatch..


I think that Dimanto was referring to the old K18 Oracle. The new version includes separate categories for Sicilians, based on the results which have been reported by users of the K18.

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 06:21 PM
Sein's results (Pashtun Pakistan/Afghanistan, HRP0282)

21.18% Caucasian-Basal
0.92% Melano-Austronesian
5.99% Uralic
0.00% Ancestral_East_Siber
3.19% Ancestral_West_Siber
32.44% Ancestral_North_Indi
19.88% Ancestral_South_Indi
0.63% West_European_HG
1.77% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
1.47% South_East_Asian
0.63% Archaic_African
1.23% Ancestral_Mediterran
1.50% Circumpolar
3.14% Near-East-Basal
4.04% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.02% African_Sub_Saharian
1.97% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Pashtun" "9.2663"
[2,] "Central_Asian" "10.3378"
[3,] "Tajik-panjshiri " "10.377"
[4,] "Pathan" "11.4593"
[5,] "Burusho" "12.5543"
[6,] "Kalash" "13.5634"
[7,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "14.2029"
[8,] "Tajik" "16.6179"
[9,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "17.2076"
[10,] "Uzbek" "19.0239"


[1,] "29.2% Chechen + 70.8% Sindhi" "5.5975"
[2,] "16% North-Ossetian + 84% Pathan" "5.6861"
[3,] "26.9% North-Ossetian + 73.1% Sindhi" "5.7977"
[4,] "26.7% Lezgin + 73.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "5.8069"
[5,] "17.4% Chechen + 82.6% Pathan" "5.8619"
[6,] "15.3% Ossetian + 84.7% Pathan" "5.9443"
[7,] "14.2% Abhkasian + 85.8% Pathan" "5.95"
[8,] "16.1% Adygei + 83.9% Pathan" "5.9918"
[9,] "28.2% Balkar + 71.8% Sindhi" "5.9937"
[10,] "32.6% Kumyk + 67.4% Sindhi" "5.9996"

vettor
08-28-2014, 06:21 PM
Denisova



Do Europeans record some traces of ancient admixture with Denisova hominids?

Natgeno calculated myself at 2.4% Denisova and 0.7% Neanderthal ...total is 3.1%
23andme state me as Neanderthal at 3.1% ( they do not show Denisova)
same totals

Does you Melano group have this split in some form?

Agamemnon
08-28-2014, 06:21 PM
These are the results of my maternal grandfather's sole paternal relative (all the others have died), all of his ancestry is English as far as I know yet he appears "South German" in most fits (a strange tendency which reminds me of Eurogenes K13's "West German")... Without even mentionning all the fits with Balkan pops, so I'm getting the impression the results are skewed.
None the less, here they are:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 34.02
2 East_European 31.46
3 Caucasian 9.62
4 Mediterranean 8.45
5 South_Central_Asian 4.2
6 Volga-Uralic 3.68
7 Sami-Finnic 1.8
8 East_Siberian 1.45
9 Amerindian 1.29
10 Roma 1.12
11 Afroasiatic 1.05
12 Arctic 0.82
13 Melano-Austronesian 0.59
14 Archaic_African 0.24
15 South_Indian 0.15
16 West_Siberian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South-German 4.78
2 Mixed_European 4.83
3 North_German 5.62
4 Swede 8.57
5 Austrian 8.58
6 N._European 11.65
7 Belgian 12.05
8 Swedish 12.53
9 Mixed_German 12.76
10 CEU 13.65
11 Welsh 14
12 British_Kent 16.04
13 Cornish 16.14
14 French 16.42
15 German 16.72
16 Hungarians 16.81
17 Mixed_CEU 16.86
18 Scottish_Argyll 18.18
19 Orcadian 18.51
20 Slovenian 19.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.7% Croatian + 49.3% British @ 2.37
2 57.7% British_Kent + 42.3% Croatian @ 2.46
3 61.7% CEU + 38.3% Croatian @ 2.47
4 57.6% Cornish + 42.4% Croatian @ 2.55
5 51.5% Scottish_Argyll + 48.5% Slovenian @ 2.56
6 54.1% Orcadian + 45.9% Croatian @ 2.57
7 54.6% Scottish_Argyll + 45.4% Croatian @ 2.59
8 57.2% Hungarians + 42.8% British @ 2.73
9 50.7% British + 49.3% Croat @ 2.76
10 52% Hungarians + 48% Scottish_Argyll @ 2.81
11 91.3% North_German + 8.7% Turkish_Adana @ 2.98
12 52.5% Hungarians + 47.5% Orcadian @ 3
13 51.2% British_Kent + 48.8% Hungarians @ 3.11
14 55.6% Orcadian + 44.4% Croat @ 3.14
15 55.4% CEU + 44.6% Hungarians @ 3.15
16 51.6% British + 48.4% Serb_BH @ 3.15
17 55.5% British_Kent + 44.5% Czech @ 3.16
18 56.4% Orcadian + 43.6% Serb_BH @ 3.17
19 51.4% British + 48.6% Croat_BH @ 3.17
20 52.3% Scottish_Argyll + 47.7% Czech @ 3.21


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 5.203557
2 Mixed_European @ 5.384882
3 North_German @ 6.252609
4 Swede @ 9.429032
5 Austrian @ 9.485348
6 N._European @ 13.070530
7 Belgian @ 13.484995
8 Swedish @ 13.696834
9 Mixed_German @ 14.069454
10 CEU @ 15.249276
11 Welsh @ 15.681436
12 British_Kent @ 17.926702
13 Cornish @ 18.066553
14 French @ 18.389660
15 Hungarians @ 18.719782
16 German @ 18.765146
17 Mixed_CEU @ 18.906052
18 Scottish_Argyll @ 20.332607
19 Orcadian @ 20.636736
20 Slovenian @ 21.546049

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% British +50% Croatian @ 2.505398


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% British +25% Croat +25% Croatian @ 2.330525


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British + Croatian + Hungarians + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.195309
2 British + Croatian + Scottish_Argyll + Slovenian @ 2.227345
3 British + Croatian + Croatian + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.259081
4 British + British + Croat + Croatian @ 2.330525
5 British + British_Kent + Croatian + Hungarians @ 2.450405
6 British + Croat + Croatian + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.495214
7 Croatian + Hungarians + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.502861
8 British + British + Croatian + Croatian @ 2.505398
9 British + Cornish + Croatian + Hungarians @ 2.563850
10 British + Croat + Czech + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.570135
11 British + Croatian + Croatian + Orcadian @ 2.570978
12 Austrian + CEU + Croatian + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.577458
13 British + British + Croatian + Serb_BH @ 2.578992
14 British + British_Kent + Croat + German @ 2.583291
15 British_Kent + Croatian + Hungarians + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.583672
16 British + British + Croat_BH + Croatian @ 2.602868
17 British_Kent + Czech + Hungarians + Scottish_Argyll @ 2.606626
18 British + Croat + Scottish_Argyll + Slovenian @ 2.613446
19 British + Czech + Scottish_Argyll + Serb_BH @ 2.619025
20 British + Croat + Croatian + Orcadian @ 2.639815

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 06:23 PM
No to the one that is now at gedmatch..


Gedmatch implements the K18 model

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 06:24 PM
Denisova



Do Europeans record some traces of ancient admixture with Denisova hominids?Yeah they generally get some Denisovan:

http://johnhawks.net/graphics/skoglund-denisova-frequencies-2011.png

NatGeo said I had 3.8% Denisovan or something like that which was really high for someone from an area which should have the lowest Denisovan according to that map (Punjab, Pakistan/India), so I've figured that's been pulling me and my family's results into SE-Asia (and ASI) in some calculators by 4-5% compared to other Punjabi Jatts (especially my dad).

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 06:26 PM
How about MA-1?

Caucasian-Basal 0.00
Melano-Austronesian 1.64
Uralic 15.63
Ancestral_East_Siberian 0.00
Ancestral_West_Siberian 10.65
Ancestral_North_Indian 16.51
Ancestral_South_Indian 13.87
West_European_HG 0.00
Ancestral_Sami-Finnic 2.08
South_East_Asian 0.00
Archaic_African 2.02
Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF 0.00
Circumpolar 1.28
Near-East-Basal 0.00
Ancestral_East_European_ANE 16.66
African_Sub_Saharian 1.13
Amerindian 18.53

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 06:29 PM
TOracle("Malta-1", mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Malta-1" "0"
[2,] "77.2% Afontova-Gora + 22.8% Marwadi-Middle-caste" "14.8346"
[3,] "76.5% Afontova-Gora + 23.5% Meghawal" "14.9578"
[4,] "75.9% Afontova-Gora + 24.1% TN_Brahmin" "14.9887"
[5,] "74.9% Afontova-Gora + 25.1% Brahmin_UP" "15.0256"
[6,] "76.4% Afontova-Gora + 23.6% Brahmin_Tamil" "15.0449"
[7,] "78.7% Afontova-Gora + 21.3% Gujarati" "15.0685"
[8,] "79.5% Afontova-Gora + 20.5% Velama" "15.1055"
[9,] "76.5% Afontova-Gora + 23.5% Srivastava" "15.1516"
[10,] "74.9% Afontova-Gora + 25.1% Kshatriya" "15.1559"

Dimanto
08-28-2014, 06:31 PM
This problem occurs when splitting someones ancestry (Northern Euro/Southern Italian/Sicilian) up in two populations.

This guy is half Sicilian and half German/Dutch:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Piedmont @ 13.338937
2 Toscani @ 14.323656
3 Occitan @ 15.381456
4 North_Italian @ 16.025764
5 South-German @ 17.284294
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 17.334810
7 Spanish_Extremadura @ 18.497763
8 Kosovar @ 18.658930
9 Greek @ 18.665159
10 Austrian @ 18.847239
11 Corsican @ 18.926392
12 South_Greek @ 19.384457
13 Portugese @ 19.482704
14 French @ 19.579023
15 Central-Greek @ 19.783010
16 N._European @ 20.871244
17 Sicilian @ 21.195530
18 North_Greek @ 21.594156
19 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 21.598873
20 Bulgarians @ 21.996531

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan +50% Scottish_Argyll @ 4.194318


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU +25% South_Greek +25% Turkish_Adana @ 3.147371

Half Maltese/Scottish:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 25.07
2 East_European 19.99
3 Mediterranean 18.42
4 Caucasian 13.66
5 Afroasiatic 7.35
6 South_Central_Asian 4.76
7 Roma 2.05
8 West_Siberian 2.00
9 Sami-Finnic 1.84
10 Volga-Uralic 1.81
11 East_African 1.45


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Piedmont @ 14.587207
2 South-German @ 15.669977
3 Occitan @ 16.199316
4 Austrian @ 16.279484
5 Toscani @ 16.518761
6 Greek @ 17.689444
7 Kosovar @ 17.719591
8 North_Italian @ 18.145010
9 Italian_Abruzzo @ 18.602859
10 South_Greek @ 18.613420
11 Spanish_Extremadura @ 19.537970
12 Central-Greek @ 19.731239
13 Montenegrian @ 19.846489
14 Bulgarians @ 20.058491
15 Macedonian @ 20.432758
16 French @ 20.543644
17 Gagauz @ 20.813560
18 Mixed_European @ 20.863056
19 Corsican @ 20.866861
20 Portugese @ 20.946413

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan +50% Mixed_German @ 3.746939


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_German +25% Syrians +25% Toscani @ 2.451415

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Austrian + British + Kosovar + Syrians @ 2.089377
2 British + Slovak + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.102801
3 British_Kent + Kosovar + North_German + Syrians @ 2.120483
4 CEU + Gagauz + Mixed_German + Syrian_Jew @ 2.131101
5 British + Czech + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.158868
6 Cornish + North_German + South_Greek + Syrians @ 2.179940
7 Azov_Greek + Mixed_German + Swede + Tunisian_Jew @ 2.181526
8 Bulgarians + N._European + Syrians + Welsh @ 2.194552
9 British_Kent + German + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.214225
10 British_Kent + Kosovar + Mixed_European + Syrians @ 2.216884
11 British_Kent + Bulgarians + N._European + Syrians @ 2.219322
12 British_Kent + Mixed_CEU + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.236850
13 Azov_Greek + Mixed_German + Morocco_Jew + North_German @ 2.242752
14 Bulgarians + CEU + French + Syrians @ 2.244946
15 Bulgarians + CEU + N._European + Syrians @ 2.245023
16 Gagauz + Mixed_German + Syrian_Jew + Welsh @ 2.249651
17 Cornish + German + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.250081
18 British + Italian_Piedmont + Slovenian + Syrians @ 2.253536
19 British_Kent + Greek + North_German + Syrians @ 2.260351
20 British + Croatian + Italian_Piedmont + Syrians @ 2.260681


Half Sicilian/Colonial American (mostly Northern Euro)

MDLP World 'Ancient_Roots' Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 25.13
2 Mediterranean 20.16
3 Caucasian 18.31
4 East_European 17.44
5 Afroasiatic 5.00
6 South_Central_Asian 4.15
7 Roma 3.36
8 East_African 1.56
9 Volga-Uralic 1.21


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Piedmont @ 12.929462
2 Toscani @ 13.300854
3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 15.530025
4 North_Italian @ 16.901106
5 Greek @ 16.908792
6 Kosovar @ 17.063961
7 Occitan @ 17.171350
8 Central-Greek @ 17.244530
9 South_Greek @ 17.420328
10 North_Greek @ 19.383154
11 South-German @ 19.512308
12 Sicilian @ 19.650366
13 Corsican @ 19.654127
14 Azov_Greek @ 20.169012
15 Austrian @ 20.280813
16 Spanish_Extremadura @ 20.665297
17 Bulgarians @ 21.227884
18 Gagauz @ 21.235157
19 Montenegrian @ 21.398630
20 Portugese @ 21.593193

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azov_Greek +50% French @ 3.593409


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azov_Greek +25% North_German +25% Spaniards @ 2.868710


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Azov_Greek + British_Kent + Greek-Islands + South-German @ 2.196490
2 British_Kent + Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.229490
3 Cornish + Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Occitan @ 2.289730
4 British_Kent + Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Occitan @ 2.293038
5 Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Occitan + Orcadian @ 2.302994
6 Cornish + Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.395957
7 Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Occitan + Welsh @ 2.402432
8 Azov_Greek + Cornish + Greek-Islands + South-German @ 2.406926
9 CEU + Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Occitan @ 2.415618
10 CEU + Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.446351
11 Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Spanish_Extremadura + Welsh @ 2.492170
12 Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.509579
13 CEU + Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Portugese @ 2.513412
14 CEU + Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Spaniards @ 2.520873
15 Cypriots + French + French + Mixed_East_European @ 2.555132
16 Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Portugese + Welsh @ 2.561271
17 British_Kent + Cypriots + Mixed_East_European + Portugese @ 2.569324
18 British_Kent + Mixed_East_European + Spanish_Extremadura + Syrian_Jew @ 2.569935
19 Azov_Greek + British_Kent + Cypriots + South-German @ 2.576358
20 Italian_Abruzzo + Mixed_East_European + Orcadian + Sicilian @ 2.585505

His father (100% Sicilian)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 30.15
2 North_West_European 20.01
3 Caucasian 15.60
4 Afroasiatic 9.82
5 East_European 9.44
6 Roma 5.38
7 South_Central_Asian 4.29
8 East_African 1.15
9 South_East_Asian 1.12


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.637504
2 Sicilian @ 6.061814
3 Toscani @ 10.398962
4 Italian_Piedmont @ 11.118752
5 Central-Greek @ 12.135208
6 North_Greek @ 13.934452
7 Greek @ 14.488667
8 South_Greek @ 14.639692
9 Sephardic_Jews @ 15.845673
10 Kosovar @ 16.196821
11 Romanian_Jews @ 16.553320
12 Greek-Islands @ 16.761879
13 North_Italian @ 16.773233
14 Moroccan_Jews @ 17.241692
15 Corsican @ 17.572411
16 Cretan @ 17.987371
17 Morocco_Jew @ 18.107540
18 Azov_Greek @ 18.405685
19 Italian_Jew @ 19.658895
20 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 19.942661

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots +50% Occitan @ 4.395859


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek-Islands +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Norwegian @ 2.888596


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Central-Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Palestinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.439502
2 Central-Greek + Palestinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Toscani @ 2.518883
3 Central-Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Jordanians + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.575216
4 Azov_Greek + Italian_Piedmont + Palestinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.656838
5 Central-Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Syrians @ 2.666846
6 Azov_Greek + Lebanese + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Toscani @ 2.678192
7 Azov_Greek + Palestinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Toscani @ 2.703667
8 Azov_Greek + Italian_Piedmont + Lebanese + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.717193
9 North_Greek + Palestinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Toscani @ 2.756054
10 Azov_Greek + North_Italian + Palestinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.760421
11 Greek-Islands + Italian_Piedmont + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Syrians @ 2.795609
12 Italian_Abruzzo + South_Greek + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Syrians @ 2.855961
13 Greek-Islands + Greek-Islands + Libyan_Jew + Norwegian @ 2.888596
14 Greek-Islands + Italian_Piedmont + Jordanians + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.915914
15 Central-Greek + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.930298
16 Central-Greek + Jordanians + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Toscani @ 2.940083
17 North_Greek + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.942035
18 Greek-Islands + Kosovar + Palestinian + Spain_BASC @ 2.942423
19 Central-Greek + Cypriots + Libyan_Jew + Norwegian @ 2.943138
20 Greek-Islands + Greek-Islands + Moroccan_Jews + Norwegian @ 2.978309

Half Neapolitan/Irish:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 25.74
2 East_European 19.77
3 Mediterranean 18.73
4 Caucasian 13.97
5 Afroasiatic 7.76
6 South_Central_Asian 4.88
7 Roma 3.05
8 Volga-Uralic 2.38
9 West_Siberian 1.07


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Piedmont @ 14.179902
2 Occitan @ 15.863287
3 South-German @ 15.904621
4 Toscani @ 16.072624
5 Austrian @ 16.780050
6 North_Italian @ 17.623493
7 Greek @ 17.828819
8 Kosovar @ 17.907131
9 Italian_Abruzzo @ 18.257946
10 South_Greek @ 18.773445
11 Spanish_Extremadura @ 19.086346
12 Central-Greek @ 19.706636
13 French @ 20.216297
14 Montenegrian @ 20.399433
15 Corsican @ 20.438284
16 Portugese @ 20.647715
17 Bulgarians @ 20.663603
18 Macedonian @ 20.929855
19 N._European @ 20.961365
20 North_Greek @ 21.154633

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan +50% Mixed_German @ 4.294344


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU +25% Gagauz +25% Syrian_Jew @ 3.069898


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cypriots + North_German + North_Greek + Orcadian @ 2.534035
2 Cypriots + Gagauz + Mixed_German + Welsh @ 2.551514
3 Cornish + Cypriots + Gagauz + Mixed_German @ 2.605954
4 Cornish + Gagauz + Mixed_German + Syrian_Jew @ 2.613515
5 CEU + Cypriots + Gagauz + Mixed_German @ 2.628471
6 Azov_Greek + Mixed_German + North_German + Sephardic_Jews @ 2.636041
7 British + Czech + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.650555
8 British + Croatian + North_Italian + Syrians @ 2.678937
9 Gagauz + Mixed_German + Syrian_Jew + Welsh @ 2.680819
10 Cypriots + Greek + North_German + Orcadian @ 2.690811
11 CEU + Gagauz + Mixed_German + Syrian_Jew @ 2.705688
12 North_German + Orcadian + South_Greek + Syrian_Jew @ 2.706428
13 French + Mixed_German + Montenegrian + Uzbekistani_Jews @ 2.711876
14 Cypriots + North_German + North_Greek + Norwegian @ 2.721369
15 Bosnian + British + North_Italian + Syrians @ 2.728651
16 Kosovar + Orcadian + South-German + Syrians @ 2.731076
17 British + Slovenian + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.749157
18 British_Kent + Gagauz + Mixed_German + Syrian_Jew @ 2.751857
19 British + Croatian + Syrians + Toscani @ 2.767196
20 Bulgarians + CEU + French + Syrians @ 2.770825

Me (Half Neapolitan/North Dutch):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 29.20
2 Mediterranean 19.76
3 East_European 17.31
4 Caucasian 13.89
5 Afroasiatic 5.81
6 South_Central_Asian 5.26
7 Roma 3.54
8 Arctic 2.98


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Occitan @ 12.089180
2 Italian_Piedmont @ 12.473354
3 Toscani @ 13.767457
4 North_Italian @ 14.693634
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 15.934383
6 South-German @ 16.688778
7 Corsican @ 17.112669
8 French @ 17.256830
9 Portugese @ 17.273809
10 Italian_Abruzzo @ 17.334082
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 18.038994
12 N._European @ 19.130537
13 Austrian @ 19.146194
14 Spaniards @ 19.318129
15 Kosovar @ 19.845907
16 Greek @ 20.165926
17 Spanish_Valencia @ 20.198879
18 Belgian @ 21.042624
19 South_Greek @ 21.053488
20 Central-Greek @ 21.166555

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan +50% Norwegian @ 4.003005


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cornish +25% Cypriots +25% Kosovar @ 3.511224


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Jew_Tat + Mixed_German + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC @ 2.660436
2 Bosnian + British_Kent + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC @ 2.685787
3 British_Kent + Jew_Tat + Serb_Serbia + Spain_BASC @ 2.780425
4 Bosnian + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC + Welsh @ 2.841178
5 British_Kent + Croat + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC @ 2.854264
6 Macedonian + Mixed_German + Spain_BASC + Turks @ 2.865298
7 Gagauz + Mixed_German + Spain_BASC + Turks @ 2.890981
8 British_Kent + Kurd_Jew + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC @ 2.902462
9 British_Kent + Croat_BH + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC @ 2.915234
10 British_Kent + Jew_Tat + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC @ 2.941938
11 Bosnian + Cornish + Jew_Tat + Spain_BASC @ 2.963346
12 British_Kent + Jew_Tat + Serb_BH + Spain_BASC @ 2.971038
13 CEU + Jew_Tat + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC @ 2.994998
14 Jew_Tat + Montenegrian + Spain_BASC + Welsh @ 3.041930
15 British_Kent + Kurd_Jew + Serb_Serbia + Spain_BASC @ 3.044288
16 Jew_Tat + Mixed_German + Serb_Serbia + Spain_BASC @ 3.054232
17 Jew_Tat + Macedonian + Mixed_German + Spain_BASC @ 3.054879
18 Jew_Tat + Orcadian + Serb_Serbia + Spain_BASC @ 3.089447
19 Austrian + Jew_Tat + South-German + Spain_BASC @ 3.098095
20 Jew_Tat + Montenegrian + Orcadian + Spain_BASC @ 3.118169

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 06:32 PM
Denisova



Do Europeans record some traces of ancient admixture with Denisova hominids?And according to that Denisovans are 1.45% ANE (+0.75% Sami-Finnic, 0.61% Amerindian, so over 2-3% ANE) compared to 2.05% Melano-Austronesian, even though that heatmap depicts ANE as being a sink for Denisovan admixture (low spots in NE-Europe and South Central Asia). I'm beginning to think that's wrong or the software's mixing up some ANE with Denisovan/SE-Asian/Melano-Austronesian in some way.

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 06:37 PM
And according to that Denisovans are 1.45% ANE (+0.75% Sami-Finnic, 0.61% Amerindian, so over 2-3% ANE) compared to 2.05% Melano-Austronesian, even though that heatmap depicts ANE as being a sink for Denisovan admixture (low spots in NE-Europe and South Central Asia). I'm beginning to think that's wrong or the software's mixing up some ANE with Denisovan/SE-Asian/Melano-Austronesian in some way.

Unfortunately, we cannot directly compare Reich's results to admixture scores, because Reich's team used completely different and more reliable approach to apriori detected candidate genomic regions of admixture. But it is also possible that a small portion of Denisova's genetic introgression entered western Eurasia through AG(AfonotovaGora)-like genomes.

Agamemnon
08-28-2014, 06:39 PM
Turkish results, half-Yörük half-Pontian (with a few Circassian ancestors here & there):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 23.68
2 Mediterranean 21.98
3 South_Central_Asian 10.19
4 Afroasiatic 9.37
5 North_West_European 7.01
6 East_European 6.75
7 South_East_Asian 5.6
8 Volga-Uralic 4.29
9 Roma 3.3
10 West_Siberian 2.49
11 South_Indian 1.9
12 East_Siberian 1.46
13 Sami-Finnic 1.2
14 Arctic 0.42
15 Amerindian 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks 9.17
2 Azov_Greek 11.31
3 Azeri 12.29
4 Crimean_Tatar 13.02
5 Turkish_Aydin 13.52
6 Uzbekistan_Jew 14.98
7 Kurds 15.71
8 Jew_Tat 15.78
9 Iranians 16.07
10 Uzbekistani_Jews 16.28
11 Kurd_Jew 16.65
12 Greek-Islands 16.9
13 Turkmens 17.18
14 Syrians 17.24
15 Cretan 17.31
16 Kurd 17.36
17 North_Greek 17.41
18 Turkish_Adana 17.61
19 Iraki 17.64
20 Turkish_Kayseri 17.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.5% Greek-Islands + 49.5% Turkmens @ 5.73
2 54.3% Crimean_Tatar + 45.7% Uzbekistan_Jew @ 5.89
3 84.6% Turks + 15.4% Kryashen @ 6.16
4 59.7% Greek-Islands + 40.3% Tajiks @ 6.21
5 83.3% Turks + 16.7% Tatar @ 6.31
6 63.1% Azov_Greek + 36.9% Turkmens @ 6.38
7 83.7% Turks + 16.3% Tatar_Lithuanian @ 6.48
8 61.9% Greek-Islands + 38.1% Tadjik @ 6.57
9 87% Turks + 13% Komi @ 6.57
10 57.8% Cypriots + 42.2% Tajiks @ 6.61
11 84.4% Turks + 15.6% Bashkir @ 6.71
12 86.1% Turks + 13.9% Mishar @ 6.72
13 56.7% Crimean_Tatar + 43.3% Iranians @ 6.8
14 84.8% Turks + 15.2% Austrian @ 6.82
15 65.9% Azeri + 34.1% South_Greek @ 6.83
16 85.3% Turks + 14.7% South-German @ 6.83
17 86.5% Turks + 13.5% Mixed_European @ 6.83
18 86.8% Turks + 13.2% German @ 6.84
19 51.6% Turkmens + 48.4% Cypriots @ 6.86
20 62.4% Greek-Islands + 37.6% Uzbek @ 6.88


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 10.278753
2 Azov_Greek @ 12.538450
3 Azeri @ 13.861979
4 Turkish_Aydin @ 14.276607
5 Crimean_Tatar @ 14.579520
6 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 16.725098
7 Jew_Tat @ 17.487473
8 Kurds @ 17.638636
9 Iranians @ 17.817392
10 Uzbekistani_Jews @ 17.904585
11 Greek-Islands @ 18.379007
12 Kurd_Jew @ 18.382019
13 Syrians @ 18.533558
14 Cretan @ 18.808369
15 Turkmens @ 18.833429
16 Iraki @ 19.184948
17 North_Greek @ 19.320036
18 Kurd @ 19.543066
19 Turkish_Adana @ 19.585077
20 Cypriots @ 19.711861

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek-Islands +50% Turkmens @ 6.217721


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots +25% Nogais +25% Tadjik @ 4.899613


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lak + Samaritians + Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 3.871275
2 Avar + Samaritians + Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 4.013808
3 Lezgins + Samaritians + Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 4.150803
4 Samaritians + Sicilian + Urkarah + Uzbeks @ 4.197248
5 Chechens + Samaritians + Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 4.197472
6 Italian_Abruzzo + Syrians + Turkish_Kayseri + Uzbeks @ 4.271837
7 Cypriots + Lezgins + Moroccan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 4.278359
8 Druze + Kumyks + Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 4.284222
9 Chechens + Samaritians + Sicilian + Uyghur @ 4.301068
10 Cypriots + Lezgin + Moroccan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 4.308234
11 Greek-Islands + Lezgin + Libyan_Jew + Uzbeks @ 4.311468
12 Central-Greek + Lak + Samaritians + Uzbeks @ 4.319063
13 Nogais + Sicilian + Syrians + Turkmens @ 4.325277
14 Italian_Abruzzo + Lak + Samaritians + Uzbeks @ 4.339179
15 Cypriots + Lak + Moroccan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 4.342355
16 Italian_Abruzzo + Kumyks + Samaritians + Uzbeks @ 4.346517
17 Central-Greek + Lezgins + Samaritians + Uygur @ 4.350794
18 Cypriots + Lezgins + Moroccan_Jews + Uyghur @ 4.352523
19 Italian_Abruzzo + Lezgins + Samaritians + Uzbeks @ 4.360960
20 Central-Greek + Chechens + Samaritians + Uyghur @ 4.367637

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 06:48 PM
Yeah they generally get some Denisovan:

http://johnhawks.net/graphics/skoglund-denisova-frequencies-2011.png



Actually, in mixedmode Oracle gives Denisova following results:

TOracle("Denisova", mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Denisova" "0"
[2,] "4.4% Ancient_Australian + 95.6% Nguni" "2.0958"
[3,] "4.5% Ancient_Australian + 95.5% Tswana" "2.1978"
[4,] "4.8% Afontova-Gora + 95.2% Nguni" "2.2622"
[5,] "4.2% Finn-East + 95.8% Nguni" "2.2899"
[6,] "59.8% Kaba + 40.2% Neanderthal" "2.2905"
[7,] "4% Karelian + 96% Nguni" "2.293"
[8,] "96% Nguni + 4% Vepsa" "2.2993"
[9,] "4.2% Finn + 95.8% Nguni" "2.3022"
[10,] "4.9% Afontova-Gora + 95.1% Tswana" "2.3058"

Agamemnon
08-28-2014, 06:51 PM
Ashkenazi Jew (not my father, who is actually closer to Sephardic Jews than most Ashkenazim):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 33.86
2 Caucasian 15.22
3 North_West_European 12.21
4 East_European 11.16
5 Afroasiatic 9.35
6 South_Central_Asian 7.69
7 East_Siberian 2.53
8 East_African 1.58
9 Roma 1.37
10 South_Indian 1.3
11 West_Siberian 1.28
12 Sami-Finnic 0.71
13 Archaic_African 0.63
14 Volga-Uralic 0.62
15 Melano-Austronesian 0.4
16 Amerindian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian 8.06
2 Romanian_Jews 8.49
3 North_Greek 8.85
4 Central-Greek 9.48
5 Cretan 9.51
6 Sephardic_Jews 9.9
7 Ashkenazy_Jews 11.05
8 Italian_Abruzzo 11.33
9 Greek 11.37
10 Greek-Islands 11.39
11 South_Greek 11.96
12 Moroccan_Jews 12.08
13 Italian_Jew 12.78
14 Morocco_Jew 13.17
15 Tunisian_Jew 13.27
16 Kosovar 13.64
17 Cypriots 14
18 Syrian_Jew 14.44
19 Azov_Greek 15.01
20 Italian_Piedmont 15.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.1% Sephardic_Jews + 21.9% Hungarians @ 3.76
2 79.6% Sephardic_Jews + 20.4% Croatian @ 3.85
3 80.8% Sephardic_Jews + 19.2% Czech @ 3.85
4 81.9% Sephardic_Jews + 18.1% Mixed_CEU @ 3.88
5 81.1% Sephardic_Jews + 18.9% German @ 3.93
6 79.5% Sephardic_Jews + 20.5% Slovenian @ 3.95
7 81.5% Sephardic_Jews + 18.5% Slovak @ 3.98
8 72.8% Moroccan_Jews + 27.2% Mixed_East_European @ 4.06
9 77.9% Sephardic_Jews + 22.1% Austrian @ 4.14
10 84.5% Sephardic_Jews + 15.5% Sorbs @ 4.21
11 86.3% Sephardic_Jews + 13.7% Estonians @ 4.23
12 77.8% Sephardic_Jews + 22.2% Bosnian @ 4.26
13 77.9% Sephardic_Jews + 22.1% Serb_BH @ 4.26
14 84.9% Sephardic_Jews + 15.1% Polish @ 4.27
15 87% Sephardic_Jews + 13% Latvian @ 4.35
16 78.1% Sephardic_Jews + 21.9% Croat @ 4.35
17 84.3% Sephardic_Jews + 15.7% Don_cossack @ 4.39
18 78.2% Sephardic_Jews + 21.8% Croat_BH @ 4.4
19 71.7% Tunisian_Jew + 28.3% Austrian @ 4.45
20 72.5% Sephardic_Jews + 27.5% Montenegrian @ 4.45


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian @ 8.961024
2 Romanian_Jews @ 9.410173
3 North_Greek @ 9.818351
4 Central-Greek @ 10.467027
5 Cretan @ 10.557158
6 Sephardic_Jews @ 10.914832
7 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 12.105744
8 Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.539763
9 Greek @ 12.655607
10 Greek-Islands @ 12.783734
11 Moroccan_Jews @ 13.281888
12 South_Greek @ 13.453108
13 Italian_Jew @ 14.006346
14 Morocco_Jew @ 14.427621
15 Tunisian_Jew @ 14.497016
16 Kosovar @ 15.198917
17 Cypriots @ 15.688772
18 Syrian_Jew @ 16.135008
19 Azov_Greek @ 16.789766
20 Italian_Piedmont @ 17.547794

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +50% Moroccan_Jews @ 5.075541


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze +25% Montenegrian +25% North_Italian @ 3.099890


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Jew_Tat + Sardinian + Serb_BH + Syrians @ 2.475882
2 Croat_BH + Jew_Tat + Sardinian + Syrians @ 2.576045
3 Bosnian + Jew_Tat + Sardinian + Syrians @ 2.742476
4 Croat + Jew_Tat + Sardinian + Syrians @ 2.758194
5 Ashkenazy_Jews + Crimean_Tatar + Occitan + Samaritians @ 2.780102
6 Azeri + Sardinian + Serb_Serbia + Syrians @ 2.788100
7 Corsican + Druze + Druze + Montenegrian @ 2.908730
8 Jew_Tat + Jordanians + Sardinian + Serb_BH @ 2.911494
9 Azeri + Jordanians + Sardinian + Serb_Serbia @ 2.915310
10 Azeri + Palestinian + Sardinian + Serb_Serbia @ 2.933391
11 Sardinian + Serb_BH + Syrians + Uzbekistani_Jews @ 2.940219
12 Druze + Italian_Abruzzo + Montenegrian + Moroccan_Jews @ 2.945820
13 French_Jew + Iraki + Italian_Piedmont + South_Greek @ 2.960971
14 Croatian + Jew_Tat + Sardinian + Syrians @ 2.971971
15 Iran_Jew + Libyan_Jew + Macedonian + North_Italian @ 2.982473
16 Corsican + Druze + Druze + Serb_Serbia @ 2.988291
17 Azeri + Montenegrian + Sardinian + Syrians @ 2.990710
18 Druze + Italian_Abruzzo + Moroccan_Jews + Serb_Serbia @ 2.991906
19 Azeri + Palestinian + Sardinian + Serb_BH @ 3.006362
20 Croat_BH + Sardinian + Syrians + Uzbekistani_Jews @ 3.013930

Shaikorth
08-28-2014, 06:52 PM
Yeah they generally get some Denisovan:


NatGeo said I had 3.8% Denisovan or something like that which was really high for someone from an area which should have the lowest Denisovan according to that map (Punjab, Pakistan/India), so I've figured that's been pulling me and my family's results into SE-Asia (and ASI) in some calculators by 4-5% compared to other Punjabi Jatts (especially my dad).

There are some tiny IBD segments detectable too, but as seen here just a fraction of the frequency of Neanderthal segments.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2i27sd5.jpg
http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2014/04/07/003988.full.pdf

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 07:02 PM
I strongly suspect that at least a part of Neanderthal admixture is hidden within Ancient-Sami-Finnic component

TOracle("Neanderthal", mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Neanderthal" "0"
[2,] "90% Bamoun + 10% Swede-North-Saami" "3.3121"
[3,] "90% Hausa + 10% Swede-North-Saami" "3.3559"
[4,] "90.5% Bamoun + 9.5% Saami-Finn" "3.4144"
[5,] "10.1% Swede-North-Saami + 89.9% Tswana" "3.4261"
[6,] "93.8% Denisova + 6.2% Miwok" "3.4573"
[7,] "93.9% Denisova + 6.1% Tsimsian" "3.462"
[8,] "90.4% Hausa + 9.6% Saami-Finn" "3.4661"
[9,] "7.5% Saami-Finn + 92.5% Sotho_Tswana" "3.4714"
[10,] "94.1% Denisova + 5.9% Saami-Finn" "3.4815"

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 07:07 PM
A couple of months ago I calculated the average % of Neanderthal admixture per population (sorry, the original post (http://verenich.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D 0%B3%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%BA-%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8E/)is available only in Russian language):

Icelandic 10.50%
Norwegian 9.00%
1_Motala12 8.00%
Spain_BASC 8.00%
Albanian 7.00%
Korean 7.00%
Tiwari 5.11%
1_LBK380 5.00%
1_Loschbour 5.00%
French_South 4.00%
Kashmiri 4.00%
Tubalar 4.00%
Atayal_Coriell 3.60%
Ami_Coriell 3.10%
1_Motala_merge 3.00%
Bolivian 3.00%
Croatian 3.00%
Totonac 2.80%
Qatari 2.71%
Mixed_East_Slav 2.57%
Gujarati 2.43%
Ulchi 2.39%
North-Russian 2.36%
Center-Russian 2.36%
Aonaga 2.33%
British 2.33%
Chenchu 2.33%
East-Belarusian 2.33%
Ukrainian 2.33%
Finn 2.29%
Latvian 2.29%
Mixed_European 2.28%
South-Russian 2.27%
Pole 2.26%
Lithuanian 2.25%
West-Belarusian 2.25%
Belarusian 2.23%
Vepsa 2.23%
Bosnian 2.22%
Cree 2.20%
Georgian_Imereti 2.20%
Polish 2.20%
Orcadian 2.15%
Russian 2.15%
Karelian 2.13%
Welsh 2.12%
Swede 2.11%
Ukranians 2.11%
Greek 2.10%
Lithuanians 2.10%
Gagauz 2.09%
Croat 2.08%
Slovak 2.08%
Estonians 2.08%
Adygei 2.07%
Serb_Serbia 2.07%
Toscani 2.07%
French 2.06%
Komi 2.06%
1_LaBrana 2.00%
Algonquin 2.00%
Avar 2.00%
Azeri_Dagestan 2.00%
Azov_Greek 2.00%
Bashkir 2.00%
Belgian 2.00%
Bulgarians 2.00%
Central-Greek 2.00%
CEU 2.00%
Cirkassian 2.00%
Cochin_Jew 2.00%
Corsican 2.00%
Cretan 2.00%
Croat_BH 2.00%
Don_cossack 2.00%
Eskimo 2.00%
Haida 2.00%
Hungarian 2.00%
Hungarians 2.00%
Inkeri 2.00%
Inkeri-Finn 2.00%
Italian_Abruzzo 2.00%
Kets 2.00%
Kosovar 2.00%
Kryashen 2.00%
Kuban_cossack 2.00%
Lezgin 2.00%
Macedonian 2.00%
Meghawal 2.00%
Mishar 2.00%
Mixed_CEU 2.00%
Mixed_East_European 2.00%
Mixed_German 2.00%
Mixed_Slav 2.00%
Montenegrian 2.00%
Mordovian 2.00%
Mordovians 2.00%
North_Italian 2.00%
Occitan 2.00%
Roma_Bulgarian 2.00%
Roma_Macedonian 2.00%
Romanian_Jew_2 2.00%
Russian_South 2.00%
Saami 2.00%
Selkup 2.00%
Serb_BH 2.00%
Slovenian 2.00%
South_Greek 2.00%
Swedish 2.00%
Tabassaran 2.00%
Tatar_Lithuanian 2.00%
Velama 2.00%
West_Greenland 2.00%
French_Basque 1.95%
Chechens 1.94%
Iberian 1.94%
Chuvash 1.94%
Tatar 1.93%
Balkars 1.92%
German 1.92%
North-Ossetian 1.92%
Hant 1.89%
North_Greek 1.89%
Georgians 1.88%
Lak 1.88%
Abhkasians 1.85%
Sardinian 1.84%
Udmurd 1.84%
Maris 1.82%
Romanians 1.82%
Georgian_Laz 1.80%
Kumyks 1.80%
Lodi 1.80%
Mansi 1.77%
Chukchis 1.75%
Crimean_Tatar 1.75%
Italian_Piedmont 1.75%
Ket 1.75%
Moldavian 1.75%
Vaish 1.75%
Hallaki 1.67%
Lezgins 1.67%
Ossetian 1.67%
Tlingit 1.67%
Greek-Islands 1.63%
Turks 1.63%
Armenians 1.60%
Nogais 1.60%
Selkups 1.60%
Hakas 1.57%
Ashkenazy_Jews 1.56%
Apache 1.50%
Jew_Tat 1.50%
Kabardin 1.50%
Karitiana 1.50%
Kurds 1.50%
Nenets 1.50%
Samaritians 1.50%
Santhal 1.50%
Srivastava 1.50%
Syrian_Jew 1.50%
Tuva 1.50%
Uygur 1.50%
Mexican 1.45%
Italian_Jew 1.40%
Portugese 1.40%
Tajiks 1.40%
Kyrgyzians 1.38%
Roma_Slovenian 1.38%
Altaians 1.36%
Koryaks 1.33%
Pashtun 1.33%
Satnami 1.33%
Sicilian 1.33%
Yakut 1.31%
Cypriots 1.30%
Spaniards 1.30%
Turkmen 1.30%
French_Jew 1.29%
Iraqi_Jews 1.29%
Sephardic_Jews 1.29%
Turkmens 1.29%
Parsi 1.28%
Buryats 1.27%
Pathan 1.27%
Tadjik 1.27%
Athabask 1.25%
Iran_Jew 1.25%
Kurd_Jew 1.25%
Nganassans 1.25%
Nysha 1.25%
Azeri 1.22%
Mixtec 1.22%
Tharu 1.20%
Tunisian_Jew 1.20%
Uzbek 1.20%
Evenkis 1.18%
Kazakhs 1.18%
Roma 1.17%
Tuvinians 1.17%
Druze 1.16%
Karakalpak 1.14%
Mongolians 1.14%
Uzbeks 1.13%
Ojibwa 1.10%
Buryat 1.00%
Cochimi 1.00%
Cucupa 1.00%
Dolgan 1.00%
Dolgans 1.00%
Even 1.00%
Evenk 1.00%
Hazara 1.00%
Huichol 1.00%
Kalash 1.00%
Kalmyk 1.00%
Kamsali 1.00%
Koryak 1.00%
Kumiai 1.00%
Lambadi 1.00%
Luiseno 1.00%
Maya 1.00%
Mongol_Halha 1.00%
Nganassan 1.00%
Oroqen 1.00%
Pima 1.00%
Roma_BH 1.00%
Romanian_Jew_1 1.00%
Romanian_Jew_3 1.00%
Shor 1.00%
Surui 1.00%
Tharus 1.00%
Tsimsian 1.00%
Uyghur 1.00%
Uzbekistan_Jew 1.00%
Uzbekistani_Jews 1.00%
Vysya 1.00%
Yukaghirs 1.00%
Sindhi 0.91%
Hezhen 0.86%
Xibo 0.80%
Navajo 0.78%
Bhil 0.75%
Brahmins_UP 0.75%
Burusho 0.75%
Mongola 0.75%
Naga 0.75%
Iranians 0.71%
Daur 0.67%
Kshatriya 0.67%
Mala 0.67%
Moroccan_Jews 0.67%
Japanese 0.58%
Chinese_Dai 0.53%
Evens 0.50%
Kol 0.50%
Morocco_Jew 0.50%
Mumbai_Jews 0.50%
Scheduled_Caste_UP 0.50%
South_Han 0.50%
Tu 0.50%
North_Han 0.45%
Brahui 0.45%
She 0.44%
Tujia 0.44%
Iraki 0.43%
Naxi 0.43%
Dharkars 0.40%
Han 0.40%
Kanjars 0.40%
Miaozu 0.40%
Velamas 0.38%
Balochi 0.33%
Chenchus 0.33%
Dusadh 0.33%
Hakkipikki 0.33%
Lahu 0.33%
Piramalai_Kallars 0.33%
Yizu 0.33%
Colombian 0.25%
Chamar 0.22%
Syrians 0.22%
Dai 0.20%
Libyan_Jew 0.17%
Makrani 0.08%

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 07:07 PM
I strongly suspect that at least a part of Neanderthal admixture is hidden within Ancient-Sami-Finnic component

TOracle("Neanderthal", mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Neanderthal" "0"
[2,] "90% Bamoun + 10% Swede-North-Saami" "3.3121"
[3,] "90% Hausa + 10% Swede-North-Saami" "3.3559"
[4,] "90.5% Bamoun + 9.5% Saami-Finn" "3.4144"
[5,] "10.1% Swede-North-Saami + 89.9% Tswana" "3.4261"
[6,] "93.8% Denisova + 6.2% Miwok" "3.4573"
[7,] "93.9% Denisova + 6.1% Tsimsian" "3.462"
[8,] "90.4% Hausa + 9.6% Saami-Finn" "3.4661"
[9,] "7.5% Saami-Finn + 92.5% Sotho_Tswana" "3.4714"
[10,] "94.1% Denisova + 5.9% Saami-Finn" "3.4815"Could Denisovan also have entered Western Eurasia through Neanderthal admixture?

ZephyrousMandaru
08-28-2014, 07:09 PM
Remember, you could remove populations in the Oracle using this command line.

X <- X[setdiff(1:227,which(X[,1]=="IBS" | X[,1]=="Insert Population Here")),]

I removed Assiryan and Non-Iranian Assyrian, mainly because I wanted to compare myself to genomes other than ones I'm already closest to, given my ethnic group. Also, I suspect "Non-Iranian Assyrian" is my own genome, as the Mixed Mode results indicated that I was over 90% "Non-Iranian Assyrian".


Mixed Mode Without "Assiryan" or "Non-Iranian Assyrian"

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "15.7% Georgian_Imereti + 84.3% Iraqi_Mandean" "3.625"
[2,] "20.1% Georgian_Laz + 79.9% Iraqi_Mandean" "3.6917"
[3,] "15.9% Georgians + 84.1% Iraqi_Mandean" "3.6969"
[4,] "15.9% Abhkasian + 84.1% Iraqi_Mandean" "3.7601"
[5,] "24.8% Chechen + 75.2% Iraqi_Jew" "3.7926"
[6,] "13.2% Chechen + 86.8% Jew_Tat" "4.1715"
[7,] "42% Armenian_Yerevan + 58% Iraqi_Mandean" "4.2313"
[8,] "16.9% Adygei + 83.1% Iraqi_Mandean" "4.4468"
[9,] "25.3% Avar + 74.7% Iraqi_Jew" "4.5196"
[10,] "21.4% Chechen + 78.6% Iran_Jew" "4.5215"

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 07:10 PM
Given that we can conclude that Neanderthal-related admixture was more widespread in mesolithic Europe that today.

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 07:14 PM
Could Denisovan also have entered Western Eurasia through Neanderthal admixture?

Yes, this is one of the possible scenarios, albeit not the most parsimonous one

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 07:19 PM
Everest, Nepal Brahmin

12.93% Caucasian-Basal
0.88% Melano-Austronesian
4.54% Uralic
0.01% Ancestral_East_Siber
3.24% Ancestral_West_Siber
30.31% Ancestral_North_Indi
30.54% Ancestral_South_Indi
2.03% West_European_HG
1.83% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
4.62% South_East_Asian
0.02% Archaic_African
0.00% Ancestral_Mediterran
1.13% Circumpolar
0.00% Near-East-Basal
5.83% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.59% African_Sub_Saharian
1.52% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "6.3447"
[2,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "7.9"
[3,] "Burusho" "8.2709"
[4,] "Tiwari" "9.8436"
[5,] "Pakistani" "10.6791"
[6,] "Pathan" "12.5098"
[7,] "Brahmin_Karnataka" "14.2403"
[8,] "Nepalese" "15.453"
[9,] "Sindhi" "16.6776"
[10,] "Kshatriya" "17.5067"


[1,] "73.6% Kalash + 26.4% Mawasi" "3.6779"
[2,] "26% Dhurwa + 74% Kalash" "3.8348"
[3,] "95.1% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim + 4.9% Vietnamese_north" "3.846"
[4,] "95.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim + 4.7% Tai_Yong" "3.9305"
[5,] "95.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim + 4.7% Tai_Khuen" "3.9547"
[6,] "95% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim + 5% Toraja" "3.962"
[7,] "4.5% Jiamao + 95.5% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.9624"
[8,] "95.4% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim + 4.6% Zhuang" "3.9638"
[9,] "5.2% Karen + 94.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.9698"
[10,] "4.5% Hmong + 95.5% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "3.9698"

parasar
08-28-2014, 07:27 PM
Caucasian-Basal 0.00
Melano-Austronesian 1.64
Uralic 15.63
Ancestral_East_Siberian 0.00
Ancestral_West_Siberian 10.65
Ancestral_North_Indian 16.51
Ancestral_South_Indian 13.87
West_European_HG 0.00
Ancestral_Sami-Finnic 2.08
South_East_Asian 0.00
Archaic_African 2.02
Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF 0.00
Circumpolar 1.28
Near-East-Basal 0.00
Ancestral_East_European_ANE 16.66
African_Sub_Saharian 1.13
Amerindian 18.53

What is Caucasian-Basal?
MA-1 apparently has no affinity to it.

Shaikorth
08-28-2014, 07:32 PM
What is Caucasian-Basal?
MA-1 apparently has no affinity to it.

It's some kind of West Asian component that peaks in Caucasus.

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2014, 07:38 PM
It's some kind of West Asian component that peaks in Caucasus.

Georgian_Imereti 68.86
Georgians 67.50
Abhkasian 66.48
Ossetian 61.00
North-Ossetian 58.89
Georgian_Laz 58.29
Adygei 57.79
Chechen 54.80
Balkar 54.49
Urkarah 52.23
Kabardin 52.03
Turk_Trabzon 51.79
Lak 49.50
Avar 49.04
Cirkassian 47.83
Lezgin 47.47
Tabassaran 46.35
Kumyk 46.16
Stalskoe 44.99
Lezgin 44.32
Azeri_Dagestan 41.60
Armenian_Yerevan 40.35
Turk_Kayseri 40.22
Nogais 34.68
Turk_Adana 32.87
Mixed_East_European 32.11
Turk 31.68
Kurd 31.61
Non-Iranian Assyrian 31.61
Iranian 30.31
Assiryan 29.54
Jew_Tat 29.52
Kurds_North 28.8
Uzbekistani_Jew 28.27
Azeri 28.18
Azov_Greek 27.96
Iranian Assyrian 27.60
Iraqi_Mandean 27.55
Kurd 27.11
Crimean_Tatar 27.01
Kurds_East 26.8
Kurd 26.53
Iran_Jew 25.87
Iraqi_Mandean 25.39
Iraqi_Jew 24.99
Cypriot 24.90
Greek-Island 24.80
Kurds_South 24.7
Uzbekistani_Jew 24.23

MfA
08-28-2014, 07:44 PM
Georgian_Imereti 68.86
[...]
Uzbekistani_Jew 24.23


Do you still accept 23andMe raw datas to your project, If so how can I send you mine?

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 08:01 PM
Can you post the population averages for North Indian and South Indian?

Dimanto
08-28-2014, 08:05 PM
Other North-Dutch woman with 3 grandparents from Groningen and one from Rotterdam:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_West_European 36.96
2 East_European 28.44
3 Mediterranean 10.54
4 Caucasian 8.81
5 Sami-Finnic 3.40
6 Volga-Uralic 3.25
7 Roma 2.97
8 West_Siberian 2.32
9 Arctic 1.02


Finished reading population data. 468 populations found.
18 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South-German @ 6.161138
2 N._European @ 9.338492
3 North_German @ 9.384878
4 Mixed_European @ 9.431388
5 Belgian @ 10.310652
6 Swede @ 11.326845
7 Mixed_German @ 12.327953
8 CEU @ 12.502101
9 Welsh @ 12.558504
10 Austrian @ 12.560807
11 Swedish @ 13.846485
12 French @ 14.123102
13 British_Kent @ 15.070297
14 Cornish @ 15.164269
15 Scottish_Argyll @ 17.798660
16 Orcadian @ 18.056820
17 Occitan @ 19.888407
18 Hungarians @ 22.056101
19 British @ 22.388727
20 Norwegian @ 22.493702

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mixed_European +50% N._European @ 4.481202


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% British_Kent +25% South-Russian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.106278


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British_Kent + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian @ 3.020000
2 British + British_Kent + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian @ 3.105891
3 British_Kent + British_Kent + South-Russian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.106278
4 British_Kent + Polish + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.135269
5 British + British_Kent + South-Russian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.173861
6 British_Kent + CEU + Spanish_Cataluna + Ukrainian @ 3.235135
7 British_Kent + British_Kent + Spanish_Cataluna + Ukrainian @ 3.253058
8 British_Kent + British_Kent + Center-Russian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.261421
9 British + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian @ 3.266282
10 British_Kent + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian @ 3.282519
11 British_Kent + Pole + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.294106
12 British_Kent + CEU + South-Russian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.296438
13 British_Kent + British_Kent + Mixed_East_Slav + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.303473
14 Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian @ 3.327296
15 British_Kent + Spanish_Cataluna + Ukrainian + Welsh @ 3.328629
16 Belarusian + British_Kent + British_Kent + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.344176
17 British_Kent + Scottish_Argyll + South-Russian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.344975
18 British + British_Kent + Center-Russian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.353374
19 British + CEU + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian @ 3.357325
20 British_Kent + British_Kent + Spanish_Cataluna + West-Belarusian @ 3.362209

Invisible Sun
08-28-2014, 08:30 PM
Most Southern Italians/Sicilians I've seen are being replaced by just ''Greek'' or ''Cretan''..

I don´t think this is too odd, even in Eurogenes K13/15 East Sicilians are basically interchangeable with Central Greeks (should be islanders), while Western Sicilians are not far from Abruzzesi, being -the average- a bit shifted towards NW from the island (genetically speaking).

While something that still catch my attention is the divergent results I obtain when using Verenich´s or Wesolowski´s calculators.

The former (K18):
90.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 9.6% Kuban_cossack (Slavic?) @ 4.31
90.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 9.6% Karelian @ 4.34

the latter (V2 K15):
83.3% Italian_Abruzzo +16.7% Sardinian @ 3.33

just calculator effect?

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 08:45 PM
Remember, you could remove populations in the Oracle using this command line.

X <- X[setdiff(1:227,which(X[,1]=="IBS" | X[,1]=="Insert Population Here")),]

I removed Assiryan and Non-Iranian Assyrian, mainly because I wanted to compare myself to genomes other than ones I'm already closest to, given my ethnic group. Also, I suspect "Non-Iranian Assyrian" is my own genome, as the Mixed Mode results indicated that I was over 90% "Non-Iranian Assyrian".


Mixed Mode Without "Assiryan" or "Non-Iranian Assyrian"

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "15.7% Georgian_Imereti + 84.3% Iraqi_Mandean" "3.625"
[2,] "20.1% Georgian_Laz + 79.9% Iraqi_Mandean" "3.6917"
[3,] "15.9% Georgians + 84.1% Iraqi_Mandean" "3.6969"
[4,] "15.9% Abhkasian + 84.1% Iraqi_Mandean" "3.7601"
[5,] "24.8% Chechen + 75.2% Iraqi_Jew" "3.7926"
[6,] "13.2% Chechen + 86.8% Jew_Tat" "4.1715"
[7,] "42% Armenian_Yerevan + 58% Iraqi_Mandean" "4.2313"
[8,] "16.9% Adygei + 83.1% Iraqi_Mandean" "4.4468"
[9,] "25.3% Avar + 74.7% Iraqi_Jew" "4.5196"
[10,] "21.4% Chechen + 78.6% Iran_Jew" "4.5215"Is there any way to force Oracle to use a particular population?

Dr_McNinja
08-28-2014, 08:58 PM
Well, just by using a huge number of results in Oracle I got these for myself:

[913,] "2.6% Denisova + 97.4% Tiwari" "5.9659"
[2215,] "3.5% Denisova + 96.5% Pakistani" "8.2531"

And,

[920,] "2.7% Neanderthal + 97.3% Tiwari" "5.9844"
[2180,] "3.9% Neanderthal + 96.1% Pakistani" "8.1746"

Also

[813,] "7.1% Malta-1 + 92.9% Tiwari" "5.6998"
[1478,] "10.3% Malta-1 + 89.7% Pakistani" "7.6894"

NatGeo results were 2.2% Neanderthal, 3.8% Denisovan.

EDIT:

[2853,] "82.8% Brahmin_Karnataka + 17.2% Malta-1" "10.6124"
[3077,] "81% Kshatriya + 19% Malta-1" "11.2911"
[3152,] "74.7% Brahmin_Tamil + 25.3% Malta-1" "11.4406"
[5328,] "7.1% Malta-1 + 92.9% Pathan" "13.7036"
[6414,] "18.4% Malta-1 + 81.6% Sindhi" "14.5447"
[7531,] "63.2% Gujarati + 36.8% Malta-1" "15.6636"
[8389,] "40.1% Malta-1 + 59.9% Velama" "16.5481"
[10134,] "61.4% Kanjar + 38.6% Malta-1" "18.0477"
[10740,] "45% Malta-1 + 55% Piramalai_Kallar" "18.865"
[10957,] "38.7% Malta-1 + 61.3% Tharu" "19.1528"
[12407,] "78.4% Kalash + 21.6% Malta-1" "20.5381"
[12423,] "50.5% Kamsali + 49.5% Malta-1" "20.5572"
[12694,] "52.1% Kol + 47.9% Malta-1" "20.9"
[13800,] "52.9% Malta-1 + 47.1% Sakilli" "21.9083"
[13992,] "17.1% Malta-1 + 82.9% Pashtun" "22.033"
[14535,] "50.8% Gond + 49.2% Malta-1" "22.583"
[14575,] "85% Central_Asian + 15% Malta-1" "22.6276"
[14813,] "44.8% AP_Mala + 55.2% Malta-1" "22.8818"

EDIT #2:

Since the "Punjabi Jatt Muslim" is almost identical to me in this Oracle, this is from Malta-1's Oracle results:

[27,] "70.9% Afontova-Gora + 29.1% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "15.4802"

rod
08-28-2014, 09:11 PM
Thank you everyone for sharing your results, however i would ask for including more detailed your information about your origin.
#146 (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3026-MDLP-ancient-roots-!-!&p=49558&viewfull=1#post49558)

~1/2 England, 1/8 Scotland, 1/8 Ireland, 1/8 NW Europe (France, Flanders, Netherlands, Germany), 1/8 :noidea:

Humanist
08-28-2014, 09:18 PM
I removed Assiryan and Non-Iranian Assyrian, mainly because I wanted to compare myself to genomes other than ones I'm already closest to, given my ethnic group. Also, I suspect "Non-Iranian Assyrian" is my own genome, as the Mixed Mode results indicated that I was over 90% "Non-Iranian Assyrian".

Where are these coming from? Whatever they are, would not "Iraqi-Assyrian," "Iranian-Assyrian," etc. be a bit more convenient?

EDIT: Never mind. Just saw Vadim's post.

dp
08-28-2014, 09:26 PM
Denisova



Do Europeans record some traces of ancient admixture with Denisova hominids?
Dear Vadim,
I liked your population breakdowns regarding Neanderthal percentages. I'm interested in comparing ancient DNA populations to my own kit. Do you have a component calculator that could do so? I'm mainly European. See the following map based on the admix calculators:

http://www.anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2290&d=1407531220

I doubt that I have any Denisovan traces, unless its within the percentages that K18 says are East Siberian and Amerindian.
In regards to that did you read my query regarding my mom's kit, F345900; viz. http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3026-MDLP-ancient-roots-!-!&p=49742#post49742
Thanks
David Powell
dp :-)
PS: Are you using any pre-Younger Dryas DNA populations in any calculators?

MfA
08-28-2014, 09:31 PM
I think there should be another update for oracle, once the new calculator takes it's place at GEDmatch. Other than we are comparing with "different" calculators, current additions are just old results minus "Roma" component, which doesn't make 100% in total but like 97-96%. Eventually noone gets the perfect distance "0".

dp
08-28-2014, 09:36 PM
:noidea:
I feel about the same. The small amounts in the admixture runs (say .75%-2.5%) confuse me. I don't know the noise thresholds, so I don't know if a 1-2% components are worth anything or not :unsure:
:)
dp

Dimanto
08-28-2014, 09:45 PM
Western Sicilians more similar to Abruzzesi ? No I don't think that is true, but rather that W Sicilians are more diverse and have a somewhat stronger ''Northern'' but at the same time a higher ''West Asian'' input than most other Sicilians.
My paternal side is from Naples, but looks most similar (according to Polako) to W Sicilians, but most of his samples were from Calabria and Sicily and not Naples so this caused my paternal side to cluster with W Sicilians instead of Calabrese.
I think on average W Sicilians do look more like other Southern Italians/Sicilians than to Abruzzesi.
I also get Italian_Abruzzo in the k15 model from Eurogenes, but around 60% on oracle while I'm half North-Dutch.


I don´t think this is too odd, even in Eurogenes K13/15 East Sicilians are basically interchangeable with Central Greeks (should be islanders), while Western Sicilians are not far from Abruzzesi, being -the average- a bit shifted towards NW from the island (genetically speaking).

While something that still catch my attention is the divergent results I obtain when using Verenich´s or Wesolowski´s calculators.

The former (K18):
90.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 9.6% Kuban_cossack (Slavic?) @ 4.31
90.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 9.6% Karelian @ 4.34

the latter (V2 K15):
83.3% Italian_Abruzzo +16.7% Sardinian @ 3.33

just calculator effect?

Invisible Sun
08-28-2014, 10:08 PM
Western Sicilians more similar to Abruzzesi ? No I don't think that is true, but rather that W Sicilians are more diverse and have a somewhat stronger ''Northern'' but at the same time a higher ''West Asian'' input than most other Sicilians.
My paternal side is from Naples, but looks most similar (according to Polako) to W Sicilians, but most of his samples were from Calabria and Sicily and not Naples so this caused my father's side to cluster with W Sicilians.
I think on average W Sicilians do look more like other Southern Italians/Sicilians than to Abruzzesi.
I also get Italian_Abruzzo in the k15 model from Eurogenes, but around 60% while I'm half North-Dutch.

I meant "not far" on a PCA, where Abruzzo people are pulled towards East by their higher West Asian. Just look on the maps on Eurogenes blog, the southernmost are the Southern Italians, while NW Sicilians have a quite large cluster bordering Tuscans on the upper part and diving into Jewish cluster on the lower part. I think this reflect our heterogeneity. I won´t report here links since this thread is dedicated to Verenich´s last effort, but everything is easily verifiable.

Overall we seem to have more NW Euro admixture (and of course NW African)...well, I´m not wholly West Sic, rather a mixture of 50% West Sic, 37,5% East Sic (genetically) and 12,5% North Italian - so I reported my background as per Vadim´s request :)

Humanist
08-28-2014, 10:10 PM
My top 10 mixed mode results, excluding combinations that include Assyrians:

"81.1% Iran_Jew + 18.9% Tabassaran" "2.6187"
"73.7% Iran_Jew 26.3% + Azeri_Dagestan" "2.7035"
"79.7% Iran_Jew + 20.3% Lezgin" "2.8461"
"82.1% Iraqi_Mandean + 17.9% Azeri_Dagestan" "2.9165"
"82.1% Iran_Jew + 17.9% Avar" "3.0157"
"83.4% Iran_Jew + 16.6% Urkarah" "3.2027"
"82.2% Iran_Jew + 17.8% Lak" "3.2066"
"87% Iraqi_Mandean + 13% Lezgin" "3.2194"
"73.7% Kurd_Jew + 26.3% Azeri_Dagestan" "3.3242"
"88.2% Iraqi_Mandean + 11.8% Tabassaran" "3.3423"

everest59
08-28-2014, 10:21 PM
Here's Otzi, using both Calculators. I need to give a big thank you to Vadim.

.

k=18:

4.50% Caucasian
2.02% Melano-Austronesian
0.00% Volga-Uralic
0.00% East_Siberian
0.00% West_Siberian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.02% South_Indian
28.82% North_West_European
0.00% Sami-Finnic
2.52% South_East_Asian
0.64% Archaic_African
40.94% Mediterranean
0.00% Arctic
10.36% Afroasiatic
4.10% East_European
2.32% Roma
3.76% East_African
0.00% Amerindian

K=17:

4.57% Caucasian-Basal
2.07% Melano-Austronesian
0.00% Uralic
0.00% Ancestral_East_Siber
0.00% Ancestral_West_Siber
1.37% Ancestral_North_Indi
0.08% Ancestral_South_Indi
28.95% West_European_HG
0.00% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
2.64% South_East_Asian
0.64% Archaic_African
41.23% Ancestral_Mediterran
0.00% Circumpolar
10.48% Near-East-Basal
4.21% Ancestral_East_Europ
3.78% African_Sub_Saharian
0.00% Amerindian

Agamemnon
08-28-2014, 11:52 PM
Georgian_Imereti 68.86
Georgians 67.50
Abhkasian 66.48
Ossetian 61.00
North-Ossetian 58.89
Georgian_Laz 58.29
Adygei 57.79
Chechen 54.80
Balkar 54.49
Urkarah 52.23
Kabardin 52.03
Turk_Trabzon 51.79
Lak 49.50
Avar 49.04
Cirkassian 47.83
Lezgin 47.47
Tabassaran 46.35
Kumyk 46.16
Stalskoe 44.99
Lezgin 44.32
Azeri_Dagestan 41.60
Armenian_Yerevan 40.35
Turk_Kayseri 40.22
Nogais 34.68
Turk_Adana 32.87
Mixed_East_European 32.11
Turk 31.68
Kurd 31.61
Non-Iranian Assyrian 31.61
Iranian 30.31
Assiryan 29.54
Jew_Tat 29.52
Kurds_North 28.8
Uzbekistani_Jew 28.27
Azeri 28.18
Azov_Greek 27.96
Iranian Assyrian 27.60
Iraqi_Mandean 27.55
Kurd 27.11
Crimean_Tatar 27.01
Kurds_East 26.8
Kurd 26.53
Iran_Jew 25.87
Iraqi_Mandean 25.39
Iraqi_Jew 24.99
Cypriot 24.90
Greek-Island 24.80
Kurds_South 24.7
Uzbekistani_Jew 24.23


I have a question: I am half-Ashkenazi, yet I do not get "Ashkenazi" even once in my fits (always 50% North German/Swede + 50% Sephardic/Italian Jew, putting the irrelevant and incorrect "South German" aside).
How come?

ZephyrousMandaru
08-29-2014, 12:27 AM
My top 10 mixed mode results, excluding combinations that include Assyrians:

"81.1% Iran_Jew + 18.9% Tabassaran" "2.6187"
"73.7% Iran_Jew 26.3% + Azeri_Dagestan" "2.7035"
"79.7% Iran_Jew + 20.3% Lezgin" "2.8461"
"82.1% Iraqi_Mandean + 17.9% Azeri_Dagestan" "2.9165"
"82.1% Iran_Jew + 17.9% Avar" "3.0157"
"83.4% Iran_Jew + 16.6% Urkarah" "3.2027"
"82.2% Iran_Jew + 17.8% Lak" "3.2066"
"87% Iraqi_Mandean + 13% Lezgin" "3.2194"
"73.7% Kurd_Jew + 26.3% Azeri_Dagestan" "3.3242"
"88.2% Iraqi_Mandean + 11.8% Tabassaran" "3.3423"

Are you closer to the Iranian Jews than the Iraqi Mandaeans?

Dimanto
08-29-2014, 12:48 AM
Isn't it so that on 23andme the reference population for Italians are mostly Southern italians and Sicilians?
I have split view there and my father only contributes around 0,7 % of my NW European, 42% Italian, some broadly S Euro and 4.2% MENA from which most is Middle Eastern. What do you think about the similarities between NW Sicilians and Neapolitans (inhabitants of the province of Naples and surrounding provinces like Caserta, Aversa, Salerno and Avellino) wouldn't Neapolitans be even closer to NW Sicilians on average than to Abruzzesi?


I meant "not far" on a PCA, where Abruzzo people are pulled towards East by their higher West Asian. Just look on the maps on Eurogenes blog, the southernmost are the Southern Italians, while NW Sicilians have a quite large cluster bordering Tuscans on the upper part and diving into Jewish cluster on the lower part. I think this reflect our heterogeneity. I won´t report here links since this thread is dedicated to Verenich´s last effort, but everything is easily verifiable.

Overall we seem to have more NW Euro admixture (and of course NW African)...well, I´m not wholly West Sic, rather a mixture of 50% West Sic, 37,5% East Sic (genetically) and 12,5% North Italian - so I reported my background as per Vadim´s request :)

Dimanto
08-29-2014, 01:01 AM
So the old K18 Oracle is 'new' on Gedmatch and you have an even newer version ?


I think that Dimanto was referring to the old K18 Oracle. The new version includes separate categories for Sicilians, based on the results which have been reported by users of the K18.

Rukha
08-29-2014, 01:41 AM
my results, courtesy of Dr_McNinja. included the original results below.
@Vadim Verenich, who did you use as the reference for "Tajik-panjshiri"?

33.00% Ancestral_North_Indian
25.15% Caucasian-Basal
12.27% Ancestral_South_Indian
8.28% Ancestral_East_European
4.93% Uralic
2.68% Amerindian
1.89% West_European_HG
1.87% South_East_Asian
1.85% Near-East-Basal
1.82% Ancestral_East_Siberian
1.56% Ancestral_Mediterran
1.55% Ancestral_West_Siberian
1.33% Ancestral_Sami-Finnic
1.12% Archaic_African
0.69% Melano-Austronesian
0.01% Circumpolar
0.00% African_Sub_Saharian

Oracle

[1,] "Central_Asian" "5.2854"
[2,] "Tajik-panjshiri " "5.367"
[3,] "Pashtun" "7.8034"
[4,] "Tajik" "11.8361"
[5,] "Kalash" "15.4589"
[6,] "Uzbek" "17.0747"
[7,] "Pathan" "17.4394"
[8,] "Burusho" "19.7537"
[9,] "Turkmens" "21.262"
[10,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "22.0719"

[1,] "26.3% Kabardin + 73.7% Kalash" "4.3691"
[2,] "69.8% Kalash + 30.2% Kumyk" "4.516"
[3,] "69.8% Kalash + 30.2% Nogais" "4.5786"
[4,] "25.2% Balkar + 74.8% Kalash" "4.6696"
[5,] "27.4% Cirkassian + 72.6% Kalash" "4.7629"
[6,] "87.4% Central_Asian + 12.6% Kalash" "4.8421"
[7,] "94.4% Central_Asian + 5.6% Lak" "4.9007"
[8,] "93.8% Central_Asian + 6.2% Tabassaran" "4.9059"
[9,] "94.9% Central_Asian + 5.1% Urkarah" "4.9111"
[10,] "12.8% Kalash + 87.2% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.9146"
[11,] "5.6% Avar + 94.4% Central_Asian" "4.9237"
[12,] "93.9% Central_Asian + 6.1% Lezgin" "4.9405"
[13,] "5.7% Lak + 94.3% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.9838"
[14,] "6.2% Tabassaran + 93.8% Tajik-panjshiri " "4.9898"
[15,] "94.8% Tajik-panjshiri + 5.2% Urkarah" "4.9911"
[16,] "5.6% Avar + 94.4% Tajik-panjshiri " "5.0024"
[17,] "6.2% Lezgin + 93.8% Tajik-panjshiri " "5.0202"
[18,] "78.4% Central_Asian + 21.6% Pashtun" "5.0223"
[19,] "22.7% Pashtun + 77.3% Tajik-panjshiri " "5.0763"
[20,] "96.6% Central_Asian + 3.4% Chechen" "5.087"

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 27.92
2 Caucasian 22.07
3 South_Indian 13.4
4 East_European 8.14
5 Roma 5.11
6 Volga-Uralic 4.2
7 Mediterranean 3.53
8 North_West_European 2.78
9 Amerindian 2.49
10 East_Siberian 2.22
11 Afroasiatic 2.06
12 South_East_Asian 1.96
13 Sami-Finnic 1.37
14 West_Siberian 1.14
15 Archaic_African 0.93
16 Melano-Austronesian 0.67

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pashtun 7.65
2 Tajiks 9.28
3 Tadjik 10.06
4 Uzbek 13.73
5 Pathan 14.88
6 Burusho 16.71
7 Turkmens 16.81
8 Kalash 17.16
9 Turkmen 22.88
10 Iranians 23.47
11 Sindhi 23.62
12 Azeri 24.05
13 Azeri_Dagestan 24.16
14 Kurd 24.29
15 Pakistani 24.64
16 Tiwari 24.86
17 Uzbeks 25.03
18 Lezgin 25.31
19 Uzbekistan_Jew 25.68
20 Mumbai_Jews 26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% Pashtun + 13.4% Mixed_East_European @ 5.27
2 67.2% Pathan + 32.8% Nogais @ 5.29
3 68.1% Pathan + 31.9% Kumyks @ 5.52
4 87.8% Pashtun + 12.2% Romanians @ 5.59
5 85.5% Pashtun + 14.5% Crimean_Tatar @ 5.62
6 86.6% Pashtun + 13.4% Azov_Greek @ 5.86
7 88.9% Pashtun + 11.1% Gagauz @ 5.9
8 85.5% Pashtun + 14.5% Nogais @ 5.96
9 71.1% Pathan + 28.9% Cirkassian @ 6
10 89.7% Pashtun + 10.3% Macedonian @ 6.06
11 89.9% Pashtun + 10.1% Montenegrian @ 6.06
12 89.7% Pashtun + 10.3% Bulgarians @ 6.08
13 90.1% Pashtun + 9.9% Serb_Serbia @ 6.09
14 73.7% Pathan + 26.3% Balkars @ 6.1
15 63.8% Kalash + 36.2% Nogais @ 6.1
16 89.9% Pashtun + 10.1% Russian_South @ 6.1
17 90.5% Pashtun + 9.5% Bosnian @ 6.13
18 86.9% Pashtun + 13.1% Turkish_Aydin @ 6.15
19 88.1% Pashtun + 11.9% Cirkassian @ 6.16
20 93.3% Pashtun + 6.7% Mixed_Slav @ 6.18

Humanist
08-29-2014, 01:46 AM
Are you closer to the Iranian Jews than the Iraqi Mandaeans?

I will check tomorrow. I am ordinarily closer to Iraqi Mandaeans, and one of the two Iraqi Mandaeans in particular. But, with this MDLP run, that may be different. Iranian Jews and Iraqi Mandaeans are ordinarily very similar to each other. If you recall, on the many autosomal plots, they frequently plot near to each other.

jesus
08-29-2014, 02:04 AM
Based on this http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3026-MDLP-ancient-roots-!-!&p=49192&viewfull=1#post49192 & this http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3026-MDLP-ancient-roots-!-!&p=49749#post49749 I have the highest south central asian, Roma, South indian, Volga-Uralic, and african in Anthrogenica's middle easterners/west asians.

The south central asian difference is pretty interesting ( nearly 4% difference from StarD, the second person with the highest south central asian )

Dr_McNinja
08-29-2014, 03:27 AM
[1,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "0"
[2,] "40.9% Central_Asian + 59.1% TN_Brahmin" "2.8755"
[3,] "40.9% Tajik-panjshiri + 59.1% TN_Brahmin" "2.8903"
[4,] "51.9% Central_Asian + 48.1% Dharkar" "2.9082"
[5,] "48.1% Dharkar + 51.9% Tajik-panjshiri " "2.9281"
[6,] "37.5% Central_Asian + 62.5% Kshatriya" "2.992"
[7,] "57.8% Brahmin_UP + 42.2% Central_Asian" "2.9998"
[8,] "62.5% Kshatriya + 37.5% Tajik-panjshiri " "3.0085"
[9,] "57.8% Brahmin_UP + 42.2% Tajik-panjshiri " "3.0095"
[10,] "7.2% Paniya + 92.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.262"
[11,] "16.6% Lambadi + 83.4% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.2622"
[12,] "7.4% Irula + 92.6% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.2877"
[13,] "47.2% Central_Asian + 52.8% Srivastava" "3.2885"
[14,] "52.8% Srivastava + 47.2% Tajik-panjshiri " "3.3011"
[15,] "6.7% Pulliyar + 93.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.3073"
[16,] "54.6% Central_Asian + 45.4% Kanjar" "3.3616"
[17,] "52.2% Central_Asian + 47.8% Gujarati" "3.3624"
[18,] "47.8% Gujarati + 52.2% Tajik-panjshiri " "3.3825"
[19,] "9.7% Chenchu + 90.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.3916"
[20,] "45.4% Kanjar + 54.6% Tajik-panjshiri " "3.3944"
[21,] "89.2% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh + 10.8% Satnami" "3.4038"
[22,] "9.2% Nihali + 90.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.4183"
[23,] "91.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh + 8.2% Santhal" "3.435"
[24,] "9.7% Kurumba + 90.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.447"
[25,] "9.3% Hallaki + 90.7% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.4496"
[26,] "9.6% Madiga + 90.4% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.5042"
[27,] "10.8% Bhil + 89.2% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.5214"
[28,] "8.1% Mawasi + 91.9% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.525"
[29,] "7.7% Bhunjia + 92.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.5276"
[30,] "90.2% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh + 9.8% TN_Dalit" "3.5337"
[31,] "10.3% Hakkipikki + 89.7% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.5361"
[32,] "9% Mala + 91% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.5413"
[33,] "10.5% Chamar + 89.5% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.5423"
[34,] "45% Central_Asian + 55% Meghawal" "3.5524"
[35,] "55% Meghawal + 45% Tajik-panjshiri " "3.5633"
[36,] "58.8% Brahmin_Tamil + 41.2% Central_Asian" "3.5816"
[37,] "7.9% Dhurwa + 92.1% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.5867"
[38,] "58.8% Brahmin_Tamil + 41.2% Tajik-panjshiri " "3.5896"
[39,] "10.2% AP_Mala + 89.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.595"
[40,] "13.8% Lodi + 86.2% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.5997"
[41,] "38.3% Central_Asian + 61.7% Vaish" "3.6195"
[42,] "11.7% Gond + 88.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.6243"
[43,] "38.3% Tajik-panjshiri + 61.7% Vaish" "3.6327"
[44,] "89.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh + 10.7% Sakilli" "3.6686"
[45,] "85.2% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh + 14.8% Tharu" "3.7"
[46,] "55% Central_Asian + 45% Velama" "3.7254"
[47,] "55% Tajik-panjshiri + 45% Velama" "3.7561"
[48,] "15.7% Muslim + 84.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "3.7675"
[49,] "74.4% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh + 25.6% Vaish" "3.779"
[50,] "80.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh + 19.2% Srivastava" "3.7808"

Sein
08-29-2014, 04:01 AM
Sein's results (Pashtun Pakistan/Afghanistan, HRP0282)

21.18% Caucasian-Basal
0.92% Melano-Austronesian
5.99% Uralic
0.00% Ancestral_East_Siber
3.19% Ancestral_West_Siber
32.44% Ancestral_North_Indi
19.88% Ancestral_South_Indi
0.63% West_European_HG
1.77% Ancestral_Sami-Finni
1.47% South_East_Asian
0.63% Archaic_African
1.23% Ancestral_Mediterran
1.50% Circumpolar
3.14% Near-East-Basal
4.04% Ancestral_East_Europ
0.02% African_Sub_Saharian
1.97% Amerindian

Oracle

[1,] "Pashtun" "9.2663"
[2,] "Central_Asian" "10.3378"
[3,] "Tajik-panjshiri " "10.377"
[4,] "Pathan" "11.4593"
[5,] "Burusho" "12.5543"
[6,] "Kalash" "13.5634"
[7,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "14.2029"
[8,] "Tajik" "16.6179"
[9,] "Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim" "17.2076"
[10,] "Uzbek" "19.0239"


[1,] "29.2% Chechen + 70.8% Sindhi" "5.5975"
[2,] "16% North-Ossetian + 84% Pathan" "5.6861"
[3,] "26.9% North-Ossetian + 73.1% Sindhi" "5.7977"
[4,] "26.7% Lezgin + 73.3% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh" "5.8069"
[5,] "17.4% Chechen + 82.6% Pathan" "5.8619"
[6,] "15.3% Ossetian + 84.7% Pathan" "5.9443"
[7,] "14.2% Abhkasian + 85.8% Pathan" "5.95"
[8,] "16.1% Adygei + 83.9% Pathan" "5.9918"
[9,] "28.2% Balkar + 71.8% Sindhi" "5.9937"
[10,] "32.6% Kumyk + 67.4% Sindhi" "5.9996"

Dr_McNinja,

Thanks!

So, I'm closer to both the Panjshiri Tajik and "Central Asian" reference populations than I am to the HGDP Pashtuns. I wonder, who are these "Central Asians"?

Vadim,

Thanks for posting Loschbour's results! The differences between Loschbour and MA1 are exceedingly interesting.

Loschbour:

Ancestral_East_European_ANE=53.10%
West_European_HG=35.83%
Ancestral_Sami-Finnic=8.89%
South_East_Asian=2.14%
Ancestral_East_Siberian=0.04%
Archaic_African=0.00%
Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF=0.00%
Circumpolar=0.00%
Near-East-Basal=0.00%
African_Sub_Saharian=0.00%
Amerindian=0.00%
Caucasian-Basal=0.00%
Melano-Austronesian=0.00%
Uralic=0.00%
Ancestral_West_Siberian=0.00%
Ancestral_North_Indian=0.00%
Ancestral_South_Indian=0.00%

[1,] "Loshbour" "0"
[2,] "74.9% Motala + 25.1% Orcadian" "9.8111"
[3,] "24.8% Cornish + 75.2% Motala" "10.1751"
[4,] "24.8% British_Kent + 75.2% Motala" "10.218"
[5,] "68.6% Motala + 31.4% Norwegian" "10.2581"
[6,] "63.5% Motala + 36.5% Swede" "10.2911"
[7,] "15.2% French_Basque + 84.8% Motala" "10.4928"
[8,] "26% British + 74% Motala" "10.5415"
[9,] "28.6% Mixed_German + 71.4% Motala" "10.5718"
[10,] "76.8% Motala + 23.2% Scottish_Argyll" "10.6072"

MA1:

Amerindian=18.53%
Ancestral_East_European_ANE=16.66%
Ancestral_North_Indian=16.51%
Uralic=15.63%
Ancestral_South_Indian=13.87%
Ancestral_West_Siberian=10.65%
Ancestral_Sami-Finnic=2.08%
Archaic_African=2.02%
Melano-Austronesian=1.64%
Circumpolar=1.28%
African_Sub_Saharian=1.13%
Caucasian-Basal=0.00%
Ancestral_East_Siberian =0.00%
West_European_HG=0.00%
South_East_Asian =0.00%
Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF=0.00%
Near-East-Basal=0.00%

[1,] "Malta-1" "0"
[2,] "77.2% Afontova-Gora + 22.8% Marwadi-Middle-caste" "14.8346"
[3,] "76.5% Afontova-Gora + 23.5% Meghawal" "14.9578"
[4,] "75.9% Afontova-Gora + 24.1% TN_Brahmin" "14.9887"
[5,] "74.9% Afontova-Gora + 25.1% Brahmin_UP" "15.0256"
[6,] "76.4% Afontova-Gora + 23.6% Brahmin_Tamil" "15.0449"
[7,] "78.7% Afontova-Gora + 21.3% Gujarati" "15.0685"
[8,] "79.5% Afontova-Gora + 20.5% Velama" "15.1055"
[9,] "76.5% Afontova-Gora + 23.5% Srivastava" "15.1516"
[10,] "74.9% Afontova-Gora + 25.1% Kshatriya" "15.1559"

Just looking at Loschbour's results, I'd guess WHG ancestry is strongest in Eastern Europe and Northeastern Europe (which seems to be a reasonable suggestion). Also, it's striking how Loschbour has no genetic affinity to South Asia and the Americas.

By contrast, MA1 is very strongly shifted towards the Americas and South Asia (both the "ANI" and "ASI" components are a huge part of his results, and MA1 also shares the "Ancestral_East_European_ANE" component with South Asians). As always, it seems MA1 is most closely related to Native Americans and South Asians (in virtue of his clade contributing very substantial admixture to Native Americans and South Asians).

The oracle results are quite nice. Loschbour shares most of his ancestry with Motala, but Motala's ANE admixture pushes Loschbour towards Europeans. MA1 shares most of his ancestry with AG-2. But based on these results, I think AG-2 has WHG admixture, just like Motala has ANE admixture. AG-2 hasn't really gotten much attention in the recent papers, probably because AG-2 is such a low-quality sequence. Nevertheless, I think WHG admixture is a robust possibility. The minor WHG admixture+contamination in AG-2 pushes MA1 towards populations with high ANE admixture (in this case, South Asians).