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venustas
08-19-2014, 01:15 AM
R1b is not in the Uyhurs it is not in the Turkmen and it is not in Siberia and it is not in the Hazara, and it probably is not in the Yaghnobi the farthest east it really goes is in the Bashkirs and the Assyrians. The Uyhurs the Turkmen and the Siberians have Q-M25 which was confused with R1b1 (R-P25)

Humanist
08-19-2014, 01:18 AM
R1b is not in the Uyhurs it is not in the Turkmen and it is not in Siberia, it is not in the Lahu the farthest east it really goes is in the Bashkirs and the Assyrians. The Uyhurs the Turkmen and the Siberians have Q-M25 which was confused with R1b1 (R-P25)

There are several groups with significant frequencies of R1b that are farther east than Assyrians, including NW Iranians, Lezgins, Armenians (e.g. Syunik and Karabakh), etc.

venustas
08-19-2014, 01:21 AM
There are several groups with significant frequencies of R1b that are farther east than Assyrians, including NW Iranians, Lezgins, Armenians (e.g. Syunik and Karabakh), etc.
I was referring to the Assyrians in Tehran from Grugni et al.
Some small groups might be found but all the groups that I have listed above do not have R1b at least at higher than 5% (Ugyhurs, TUrkmen, Hazara) . R1b is in Iran but it really does not go east of Iran.

R.Rocca
08-19-2014, 01:22 AM
R1b is not in the Uyhurs it is not in the Turkmen and it is not in Siberia and it is not in the Hazara, and it probably is not in the Yaghnobi the farthest east it really goes is in the Bashkirs and the Assyrians. The Uyhurs the Turkmen and the Siberians have Q-M25 which was confused with R1b1 (R-P25)

Was confused by whom? I see no reference to any paper in your post.

Humanist
08-19-2014, 01:24 AM
I was referring to the Assyrians in Tehran from Grugni et al.

Well, that is the location of the sample. Not the origin of the group. My mother is from Tehran...

DMXX
08-19-2014, 01:43 AM
I beg to differ. (http://vaedhya.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-hidden-gem-in-central-asia-previously.html)

In addition, at least two recent studies have come out confirming there are some forms of R1b (both SNP tested) in the area covering Siberia and Central Asia (here is one (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21677663)). Granted, R1b totals ~3% in that Altai sample, but it is found in larger frequencies elsewhere.

You haven't cited anything to support your claim (which I and anyone else who's familiar with the region knows is factually bankrupt). We already have several threads on this forum discussing Y-DNA R1b in Central Asia and Siberia. I encourage you to search for them and read the above to catch up with the established genetic data in the region before making any more bizarre claims.

This thread serves absolutely no purpose but to spread misinformation; this will be interpreted as a breach of section 3.11 (http://www.anthrogenica.com/faq.php). Thread closed.