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lgmayka
09-10-2014, 09:24 PM
FTDNA now offers an individual SNP test for CTS4648, the sibling of YP350 downstream from YP270 < Z685 < Z92. It is appropriate for anyone who (or whose cluster) has tested YP270+ YP350- , but who has not ordered and does not plan to order a full-Y test. See YFull's haplotree for Z92 (http://yfull.com/tree/R-Z92/).

Other than two research samples (one Finnish and one Sardinian), the only example of CTS4648+ I can find is kit N116011, a Geno 2.0 transferee with a Polish surname but no markers. Thus, what we really need are Big Y orders from the YP270+ YP350- population.

Eddie78
03-31-2017, 04:31 PM
FTDNA now offers an individual SNP test for CTS4648, the sibling of YP350 downstream from YP270 < Z685 < Z92. It is appropriate for anyone who (or whose cluster) has tested YP270+ YP350- , but who has not ordered and does not plan to order a full-Y test. See YFull's haplotree for Z92 (http://yfull.com/tree/R-Z92/).

Other than two research samples (one Finnish and one Sardinian), the only example of CTS4648+ I can find is kit N116011, a Geno 2.0 transferee with a Polish surname but no markers. Thus, what we really need are Big Y orders from the YP270+ YP350- population.

Hi!

Im Montenegrian Last 300 years what I know and I got CTS4648, Have Kit N235527

lgmayka
03-31-2017, 08:03 PM
Im Montenegrian Last 300 years what I know and I got CTS4648, Have Kit N235527
I suggest you join the R1a Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1a/about/background), if you have not already done so. CTS4648 has a Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA) of 2600 years (https://yfull.com/tree/R-CTS4648/).

Marek_Sk_Golebiewski
11-16-2019, 07:49 PM
I live in the USA and did DNA testing both through AncestryDNA & 23andme.
Only 23andme does Y testing and they do not go deeper than YP270 paternal haplogroup classification which in itself is very rare 1 in 1600 of 23andme customers.
Based on my own research and my biological father research, my Paternal Golebiewski (Gołębiewski) / Golebicki (Gołębicki / Golembicki) lineage goes back to 1700s to Szymon Gołębiewski / Golembicki that was known to have R-YP4479.
Therefore my downstream mapping from R1a-Z92 should be R1a-...-Z92R-Z685R-YP270R-CTS4648R-YP1405-YP4479
and then most likely to YF04195 (Poland Podlaskie)

I was born and grew up in Poland but in Poland under R1a-Z92 (4.8% of population) subtracting YP351 (3.4% of population) I am ending up with 1.4% of Poland population estimate for CTS4648 based on Peter Gwozdz research:
http://www.gwozdz.org/Results.html#ResultsTable

Q: How do I know that I am on the right track?
A: Because of extremely rare last name "Szrejna" correlation via AncestryDNA linking me to Ron Szrejna (father - my 2nd cousin) & Brett Szrejna (son- my 3rd cousin) in the USA.
My paternal Great Grandparents were Stanislaw Gołębiewski (born 1872) & Teofila Szrejna (born 1877). My paternal Grandparents Wincenty Gołębiewski (born 1909) & Leokadia Kominowska (1908).

Unfortunately I have not found any information about linking any of the downstream haplogroups from YP270 & YP4479 to any surnames / last names.

Any Gołębiewski, Gołębiowski, Golembicki, Golebicki out there under YP4479?

Though there are thousands and thousands of Gołębiewskis in Poland.

Anybody has info on last names for and downstream from YP4479 ?