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lgmayka
09-13-2014, 02:25 PM
FTDNA customers can now order individual tests for the following SNPs:

Z280 branch
Y3219 – Downstream from Y2902, sibling of Y2910, Y4379, and CTS11142, upstream from Y3220 and Y3222
YP611 – Downstream from L1280, sibling of FGC11555 and FGC19283
FGC19283 – Downstream from L1280, sibling of FGC11555 and YP611
YP677 – Downstream from L365, sibling of YP243
S799 – Equivalent (so far) to YP677
YP576 – Equivalent (so far) to YP569 < Y4459 < Z92, upstream from YP682 (not yet offered)
YP612 – Downstream from YP682 (not yet offered)

M458 branch
YP654 – Downstream from YP256 < YP253 < L260, sibling of YP254
YP590 – Equivalent (so far) to YP589 < YP414 < YP254 < YP256, sibling of YP610
YP610 – Downstream from YP414, sibling of YP589
YP616 – Equivalent (so far) to Y2905 < YP254, upstream from YP415, sibling of Y4135 and YP414
Z2945 – Previously thought to be downstream from L1029, current usefulness unclear

CK2
03-02-2018, 08:31 PM
lgmayka
Thank you for the information on what new tests are available for the Z283 Haplogroup. But I'm struggling to understand what the results of my YDNA test mean. I have done a Y37 test at FTDNA. Based on my test, my predicted haplogroup is R1a-Z283. So, I joined the R1a project and they assigned me to the following:
Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3219-z based on my similarities to others. I see that one of the new tests you list is for Y3219. But if the test confirmed me, what would it tell me? Basically, I don't understand what any of the listed SNPs tell me. I was hoping to gain a better understanding of the origin locations of my paternal line. But I get lost after Z283. Can anyone explain to me what value any of the downstream SNPs have? I'm clearly clueless.
Thanks again,
CK

HardBall
05-02-2018, 05:56 PM
Hi, CK2--I'm kind of new at this too, but if you think of Z283 as your branch of the Y family tree then SNP testing will tell you which twig on the branch your family belongs. Finding others with the same terminal SNP will give you a pretty good indication of origin locations.

05-02-2018, 06:34 PM
lgmayka
Thank you for the information on what new tests are available for the Z283 Haplogroup. But I'm struggling to understand what the results of my YDNA test mean. I have done a Y37 test at FTDNA. Based on my test, my predicted haplogroup is R1a-Z283. So, I joined the R1a project and they assigned me to the following:
Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3219-z based on my similarities to others. I see that one of the new tests you list is for Y3219. But if the test confirmed me, what would it tell me? Basically, I don't understand what any of the listed SNPs tell me. I was hoping to gain a better understanding of the origin locations of my paternal line. But I get lost after Z283. Can anyone explain to me what value any of the downstream SNPs have? I'm clearly clueless.
Thanks again,
CK

Hi, I think R-Z283 at the base level is cordedware in origin, for me pictures are a good way of understanding where this fits in, also for any SNPs downstream it’s useful to look at the Phylogeny of R1a and it’s tree.
Europedia has some good charts graphs and maps:-
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

lgmayka
05-02-2018, 09:06 PM
So, I joined the R1a project and they assigned me to the following:
Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3219-z based on my similarities to others. I see that one of the new tests you list is for Y3219. But if the test confirmed me, what would it tell me?
Here is YFull's haplotree for R-Y3219 (https://yfull.com/tree/R-Y3219/). YFull estimates that it is 2500 years old. (Some experts suggest adding 10% to that.) The haplotree shows that R-Y3219 is found from Slovenia to Poland and from Germany to Russia, with especial representation in Hungary.

You can also refer to the R1a Project results page (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1a?iframe=yresults) to get a larger list of all those confirmed or predicted to belong to R-Y3219.

Dibran
05-03-2018, 01:23 PM
Hi, I think R-Z283 at the base level is cordedware in origin, for me pictures are a good way of understanding where this fits in, also for any SNPs downstream it’s useful to look at the Phylogeny of R1a and it’s tree.
Europedia has some good charts graphs and maps:-
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

M458 may have been part central corded ware. Z283 definitely was Corded Ware I think.