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jesus
09-20-2014, 07:51 PM
U8b1a

JX153047(Greece)
JX273294(Ashkenazi)
JX273296(Ashkenazi)

U8b1a1

AY882393(Italy)
HM590366 FTDNA
HM852759(Armenian)
JX153780(Denmark)
JX153902(Denmark)
JX153925(Denmark)
KC911451(Iran)
KC911536(Iran)
KF161759(Denmark)
23andMe(Iranian) < Me

U8b1a2
DQ200805(Basque)
JX273296(Ashkenazi)
KJ445981(HGDP01254-Algerian)
KJ445982(HGDP01279-Algerian)

U8b1b
JQ705831 Behar
JX273243(Ashkenazi)
JX153058(Greece)

http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/u8b_genbank_sequences.htm

jesus
09-20-2014, 07:53 PM
The Iranian U8b1a1 is Kurdish.

Kurdish U8b:
1x U8b1a1 A16066G, G16129A, A16183C, T16189C, C16234T, A73G, G94A, T195C, A263G, 309.1C, 309.2C, 315.1C (Kurds from Iran; Derenko et al., 2007)
1x U8b1a1 A16066G, G16129A, C16169T, A16183C, T16189C, C16234T, T16311C (Kurds from Iran; Quintana-Murci et al., 2004)
1x U8b C16111T, T16172C, A16183C, T16189C, T16311C (Kurds from Iran; Quintana-Murci et al., 2004)
1x U8b (Feyli)
1x U8b (Zaza from Sivas, originally from Dersim)

http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2013/07/kurdish-mtdna-data-x.html

jesus
09-20-2014, 08:46 PM
From FTDNA U8 project:

U8b1a

x1 USA (Most Distant Ancestor: Eleanor Rhinehart b. 11/15/1868 Ligonier PA)

U8b1a1

x1 Italy

U8b1b

x1 Portugal
x1 Canada (Most Distant Ancestor: Marie Laport, c1790 -1823 Montreal )

U8b1b

x4 Norway
x1 Finland
x2 Germany
x1 Italy

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mtDNA_U8/default.aspx?section=mtresults

evon
09-20-2014, 09:47 PM
My ex is U8b, she is Turkish with ancestry from Konya, in genebank there is another U8b last i checked from Jordan also..

also see:
http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/u8b_genbank_sequences.htm



U8b1 T195C T16189C C16234T

1. GQ360037 FTDNA U8b1 20-JUL-2009 A73G T195C A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A3480G A4769G C5165T C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A A14053G C14167T C14766T A15326G T16094C A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16234T T16324C T16519C
2. HM050402 FTDNA U8b1 13-APR-2010 A73G T195C A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A3480G A4769G C5165T C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10550G A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A A14053G C14167T C14766T A15326G T16094C A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16234T T16324C T16519C
3. JQ705815 Behar U8b1 07-APR-2012 A73G T195C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A3480G A3861G A4769G C5165T C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A11467G A12308G G12372A A14053G C14167T C14766T A15326G A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16234T T16324C
U8b1a C6546T A6599G G12771A

4. JX153047(Greece) Raule U8b1a 10-JAN-2014 A73G C150T T195C A263G 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A1943G A2706G A3480G T3540C A4021T A4769G C6546T A6599G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10086G G11016A A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A G12771A A13269G C14167T C14766T G14831A A15326G T16172C A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16234T T16311C T16519C
5. JX273294(Ashkenazi) Costa U8b1a 27-SEP-2013 A73G T146C T195C A263G 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3203G T3387C A3480G A4769G G5262A C6546T A6599G G6899A T6908C C7028T C7043T A8860G G9055A T9698C A11467G C11668T G11719A T12175C A12308G G12372A A12373G G12771A C14167T T14634C C14766T G14831A A15326G A15758G G16129A T16189C C16234T C16292T T16311C C16327T T16519C
6. JX273296(Ashkenazi) Costa U8b1a 27-SEP-2013 A73G T195C A263G 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G C6546T A6599G C7028T C7567T A8860G G9055A C9650T T9698C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T12477C G12771A C14167T C14766T G14831A C15031T A15326G T16172C T16189C C16234T T16311C T16519C
U8b1a1 G9948A G11914A G16129A

7. AY882393(Italy) Achilli-Rengo U8b1a1 15-APR-2005 A73G T146C T195C A263G 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G G3531A A4769G C6546T A6599G C7028T A8860G T9012C G9055A T9111C A9324G T9698C G9948A T10084C A11467G G11719A G11914A A12308G A12358G G12372A G12771A C14167T T14484C C14766T A15326G A16066G G16129A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16234T T16311C T16519C
8. HM590366 FTDNA U8b1a1 05-JUL-2010 A73G T195C A263G 309.1C 309.2C 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G G3316A A3480G A3808G A4769G T6425A C6546T A6599G C7028T A7844G G8251A A8860G G9055A T9698C G9948A A11467G G11719A G11914A A12308G G12372A G12771A C14167T C14766T A15326G G16129A A16182- A16183- T16189C 16193.1C 16193.2C A16215G A16300G C16465T T16519C
9. HM852759(Armenian 14) Schoenberg U8b1a1 17-MAR-2011 A73G T195C A263G T310C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G G2361A A2706G A3480G A4769G T4774N C6546T A6599G C7028T A8601N A8860G G9055A T9698C G9948A A10306N A11467G G11719A G11914A A12308G G12372A G12771A T12957C A14047N C14167T C14766T A15326G A15776G G16129A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16234T
10. JX153780(Denmark) Raule U8b1a1 10-JAN-2014 A73G T195C T217C A263G 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G T6515G C6546T A6599G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C G9948A T10632C A11467G G11719A G11914A A12308G G12372A G12771A C14167T C14766T A15326G G16129A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C G16213A C16234T G16438A
11. JX153902(Denmark) Raule U8b1a1 10-JAN-2014 A73G T195C T217C A263G 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G T6515G C6546T A6599G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C G9948A T10632C A11467G G11719A G11914A A12308G G12372A G12771A C14167T C14766T A15326G G16129A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C G16213A C16234T G16438A
12. JX153925(Denmark) Raule U8b1a1 10-JAN-2014 A73G T195C T217C A263G 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G T6515G C6546T A6599G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C G9948A T10632C A11467G G11719A G11914A A12308G G12372A G12771A C14167T C14766T A15326G G16129A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C G16213A C16234T G16438A
13. KC911451(Iran) Derenko U8b1a1 20-NOV-2013 A73G T195C A263G 309.1C 309.2C 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G T4733C A4769G G5417A C6546T A6599G C7028T A8860G G9055A C9573A T9698C G9932A G9948A T10454C A11467G G11719A G11914A G12372A G12771A C14167T C14766T A15326G G16129A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16234T T16519C
14. KC911536(Iran) Derenko U8b1a1 20-NOV-2013 T57A T58G 60.1T G71- A73G T195C T217C A263G 309.1C 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G T4373C A4769G C5846T C6546T A6599G C7028T G7762A A8860G G9055A T9698C G11176A A11467G G11719A G11914A A12308G G12372A G12618A G12771A C14167T G14364A C14766T G14831A C15568T G16129A T16189C C16192T C16234T C16259T
15. KF161759(Denmark) Li U8b1a1 01-OCT-2013 A73G T195C T217C A263G 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G T6515G C6546T A6599G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C G9948A T10632C A11467G G11719A G11914A A12308G G12372A G12771A C14167T C14766T A15326G G16129A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C G16213A C16234T G16438A
.. 23andMe('ironic'-Iranian) U8b1a1 73G 263G 523G 750G 1438G 1811G 2706G 3480G 4769G 6546T 7028T 8860G 9055A 9698C 9948A 11467G 11719A 11914A 12308G 12372A 12771A 14000A 14167T 14766T 16129A 16234T 16519C
U8b1a2 G14831A

16. DQ200805(Basque) Gonzalez U8b1a2 13-JUN-2006 A73G T152C A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G G3244A A4769G A5582G T6378C C6546T A6599G C7028T A8860G G9055A G9300A T9698C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A G12771A A13113G C14167T G14364A C14766T G14831A A15326G T16189C C16234T C16257T C16259T T16304C T16519C
17. JX273296(Ashkenazi) Costa U8b1a2 27-SEP-2013 A73G T195C A263G 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G C6546T A6599G C7028T C7567T A8860G G9055A C9650T T9698C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T12477C G12771A C14167T C14766T G14831A C15031T A15326G T16172C T16189C C16234T T16311C T16519C
18. KJ445981(HGDP01254-Algerian) Zheng U8b1a2 26-APR-2014 A73G T195C A263G C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G C6546T A6599G C7028T C7567T A8860G G9055A C9650T T9698C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T12477C G12771A C14167T C14766T G14831A C15031T A15326G T16172C T16189C C16234T T16311C T16519C
19. KJ445982(HGDP01279-Algerian) Zheng U8b1a2 26-APR-2014 A73G T195C A263G C522- A523- A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G C6546T A6599G C7028T C7567T A8860G G9055A C9650T T9698C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T12477C G12771A C14167T C14766T G14831A C15031T A15326G T16172C T16189C C16234T T16311C T16519C
U8b1b C5165T T16324C

20. JQ705831 Behar U8b1b 07-APR-2012 A73G T146C T195C C198T G207A T236C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G C3432T A3480G A4769G C5165T C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A G13135A C14167T C14766T A15326G A16182- A16183- T16189C 16193.1C 16193.2C C16234T C16301T T16324C T16519C
21. JX273243(Ashkenazi) Costa U8b1b 27-SEP-2013 A73G A257G A263G 309.1C 315.1C A374G A750G A1438G A2706G A3480G C3696T A4769G C5165T T5277C C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A11467G A11582G G11719A A12308G G12372A C12557T C14167T C14766T A15326G A16158G A16182- A16183- T16189C 16193.1C 16193.2C C16234T G16319A T16324C T16519C
22. JX153058(Greece) Raule U8b1b 10-JAN-2014 A73G T195C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A3480G C3696T A4769G C5165T G5773A C7028T C7988R A8860G G9055A G9300A T9698C A11467G A11582G G11719A A12308G G12372A C12557T C14167T C14766T A15326G A16037G T16092C A16182- A16183- T16189C 16193.1C 16193.2C C16234T T16324C T16519C
U8b1b1 A14053G

23. JQ704970 Behar U8b1b1 07-APR-2012 A73G T195C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A3480G A4769G C5165T C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10550G A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A A14053G C14167T C14766T A15326G A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16234T T16324C T16519C

Humanist
09-20-2014, 09:51 PM
U8b1a1

AY882393(Italy)
HM590366 FTDNA
HM852759(Armenian)
JX153780(Denmark)
JX153902(Denmark)
JX153925(Denmark)
KC911451(Iran)
KC911536(Iran)
KF161759(Denmark)
23andMe(Iranian) < Me

Interesting. That is the first Armenian member of U8 that I have come across. There are no members of U8 in the Armenian DNA Project.

jesus
12-03-2014, 04:56 AM
https://www.i-gene.ru/images/gaplogroups/U8_MT.jpg






The age of this haplogroup, which occurs almost throughout Eurasia, very solid - about 46 thousand years. However, to date, tens of thousands of people whose mitochondrial DNA was studied by scientists, found no more than two hundred carriers of haplogroup U8. All of them are in their cages one of its two variants - U8a or U8b.

The first "twig" spread across Eurasia: it was even in Tuva and Buryatia. Option U8b occurs predominantly in people of the Middle East. There are two varieties of Russian haplogroup U8, but most still U8a.




https://www.i-gene.ru/dictionary#gaplogroup_mt_U1-U8

Humanist
12-03-2014, 05:44 AM
https://www.i-gene.ru/dictionary#gaplogroup_mt_U1-U8

Where are they getting their frequencies from? U8 is almost nonexistent among Armenians and Assyrians. But, if one looks at that map, one would get a significantly different picture. The only case I know of is that one Armenian on GenBank that I noted in my post above.

Does the U8 frequency include mtDNA K? Even then, the frequencies would be way off for certain populations (eg Assyrians and Armenians).

jesus
12-03-2014, 06:07 AM
Where are they getting their frequencies from? U8 is almost nonexistent among Armenians and Assyrians. But, if one looks at that map, one would get a significantly different picture. The only case I know of is that one Armenian on GenBank that I noted in my post above.

Does the U8 frequency include mtDNA K? Even then, the frequencies would be way off for certain populations (eg Assyrians and Armenians).

I Don't think this map is supper accurate, but it gives some nice info. I think red = most frequent and it doesn't mean it's common among those populations.

This Russian source also mentions Armenians, but fails to mention that U8b was also found in Denmark, Italy, Norway, Finland, Germany, Greece and Italy. I think both of the sites might have outdated data, unfortunately a lot of popular sites don't even mention mtDNA U8 let alone it's distribution.




Haplogroup U8 is one of the main branches of the U and distributed in Western Eurasia almost everywhere. U8 is divided into two branches: U8a, very rare and almost exclusively in Europe, and U8b, which in turn splits into two subclades U8b1 and K. The two lines are known in Europe, the Middle East and North Africa, with a U8b1 extremely rare and, thus, the vast majority of all known specimens U8 refers to the branch K. frequency U8b1 is rarely exceeds 1%, such as at the Sephardic Jews, Armenians, and in several populations of the eastern Mediterranean. In Europe, its proportion is typically less than 0.15%. The average frequency of U8a in Europe does not exceed 0.4%, but increased in the extreme north and north-east of the continent - to 0.9% from the Swedes, 2.6% in the Karelian and 4.3% of the Chuvash.



http://gentis.ru/info/mtdna-tutorial/hg-u/u8

jesus
01-28-2015, 01:48 AM
I transfered my Geno 2.0 results to FTDNA and it showed me this under "mtDNA - Haplogroup Origins". My Great grandma was a Persian from Shiraz.

HVR1, HVR2, AND CODING REGION MATCHES

http://i.imgur.com/AU8Gf7D.png

jesus
03-05-2015, 06:18 AM
2 U8b1a1 samples were found in Iran from this study http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0080673

One of them is a Persian from Khorasan(NE Iran) and the other is a Qashqai from the Amala tribe. About the Amala tribe:



The ʿAmala of the Qaqāʾī tribe. A Turkic tribe of Fārs, it is the chief tribe of the Qaqāʾī tribal confederacy. These ʿAmalas were originally warriors and workmen attached to the household of the īlḵānī, or paramount chief; recruited from all the Qaqāʾī tribes they constituted the īlḵānīs bodyguard and retinue.In 1918, their number was estimated at 2,000 families (Magee, Tribes, p. 71).


http://i.imgur.com/ZbKksP7.png

jesus
10-31-2015, 08:19 PM
U8 has been found in Maykop culture. It would probably fall under U8b, because the vast majority of U8 in the region belongs to U8b (all U8 from Turkey, Iran and Armenia belongs to U8b)

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2015/10/mitochondrial-dna-from-maykop-wolfgang.html

Google translate:




Majkop have both a " Paleolithic " haplogroup ( U8 ) as well as via " Neolithic " haplogroups : V ( Недолужко inter alia 2014 ) , T2 , N1 . For an object from a grave in the Cossack village Novosvobodnaja we also found that haplogroup М52 . The data obtained suggest a possible ( at the level of mitochondrial DNA ) genetic community of archaeological cultures of Maikop and Novosvobodnaja .

sct
07-20-2016, 04:10 PM
Thank you, this is the best collection I've found so far.
I am another U8b1b from Ukraine (center).

evon
11-10-2016, 01:37 PM
Made a map with locations and information on certain U8b samples taken from two sources:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1UgaHRrGlaRmudQ6DrizYApimi-Y&ll=46.485763924630014%2C28.21631565000007&z=4

http://www.phylotree.org/tree/U.htm Build 17.
http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/ancientdna.shtml
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3806353/bin/ncomms3543-s4.xls <--- Information on several of the U8b samples..