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jdean
09-22-2014, 10:41 PM
Loads of orders coming through for this.

Anybody know where to find more info on it ?

I hope it isn't just for all the SNPs FTDNA currently have under M222 on their haplotree !!!

Timothy
09-23-2014, 07:45 AM
They say the bundle includes 19 SNPs downstream of M222 (but their haplotree currently lists 23), PLUS another 44 not on "their" tree.

It'll be very interesting to see how this pans out!

jdean
09-23-2014, 08:09 AM
Yep, just saw it at the bottom of an M222 kit's page, I'd have thought they would have made more of a fuss about this but maybe emails were sent out to M222+ customers ?

As you say it'll be very interesting to see how this pans out, fingers crossed !!

Timothy
09-23-2014, 08:24 AM
I manage 2 unrelated M222 men, a McCune and a Herrin, and received no emails from FTDNA or M222 or other project admins. I just happened to stumble on the offer on the home page tonight while checking if McCune's 37-67 markers were in yet.

jdean
09-23-2014, 09:07 AM
Most unlike FTDNA to be so low key, anyhow word appears to be spreading fast : )

Dubhthach
09-23-2014, 10:28 AM
I see A259 isn't included, I had just sponsored a McManus yesterday for A259 as it's looking potentially interesting for some Connacht surnames. I think it's 50/50 that he'll be A259+, if he's negative I'll do DF105 next. Let's just say this individual has a GD of 4 (at 67 markers) from someone who has a verified lineage back to the 8th-9th century ;)

jdean
09-23-2014, 10:51 AM
Is there a list of these SNPs somewhere ?

Dubhthach
09-23-2014, 12:23 PM
I'm not sure about a list but here's the image I posted in the M222 forum. It's taken from the email they sent out (email was forwarded to M222 yahoo group)

http://compsoc.nuigalway.ie/~dubhthach/DNA/ftdna-m222.png

http://compsoc.nuigalway.ie/~dubhthach/DNA/ftdna-m222.png

-Paul

jdean
09-23-2014, 01:27 PM
Thanks Paul, be an idea to see how many of these are on Chromo2.

Dubhthach
09-23-2014, 02:20 PM
Generally the one's beginning with S should be, though I think DF104, DF105, DF109 might be on it but with different labels, likewise for DF85. It's an improvement anyways that's for sure!

-Paul

David Wilson
09-23-2014, 03:39 PM
This is a beta-test/proof-of-concept effort limited to 200 participants. That's why it has been a low-profile undertaking. Only tested M222+ individuals seem to have received the notice of the test's availability. I didn't do a precise count, but it looks as though about 40-50 tests have been ordered already. As the diagram shows, FTDNA is trying to integrate all M222 SNPs (or as many as they can fit on the test plates) discovered by any process -- Geno 2.0, Chromo2, FGC and Big Y. There is still some confusion in the community about the ChrY positions of the few Big Y SNPs in the mix, which have the BY prefix -- seven below S7814? That's pretty heavy bombardment for a somewhat compact subgroup. I suspect that the release version (December? January?) will have been pruned of some of the SNPs in the beta test so that other more useful SNPs can be added. Note that S603 is not there, though it is pretty well populated based on Chromo2 and YSEQ tests. That's the most significant absence I see. F1265 is also missing. I saw but did not follow a discussion of possible ambiguities with that one a few weeks ago. I need to go back and see what the issues were.