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ballardgen
11-17-2014, 11:46 AM
R1b - CTS4528 / S1200
R1b - DF100 / S1203

We are an independent y-DNA & Genealogy Research Group consisting of members tested to these types, collecting data and studying the above subclades.
https://sites.google.com/site/cts4528/


We have "NO CONNECTION" to the CTS4528 project or its Admins hosted by FTDNA.


We do however endorse and support the HT35 project and would ask you join this project at FTDNA.
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new/default.aspx

brygian
11-17-2014, 07:46 PM
I am happy to see that there is so much interest in this clade. The main issue for this haplogroup is the lack of Sanger sequencing tests. Without Sanger sequencing tests we can't develop the ISOGG tree. I hope that Deep Clade 2 will be announced sooner and that FTDNA will offer a CTS4528, DF100 panel.

ballardgen
11-18-2014, 08:49 PM
I am happy to see that there is so much interest in this clade. The main issue for this haplogroup is the lack of Sanger sequencing tests. Without Sanger sequencing tests we can't develop the ISOGG tree. I hope that Deep Clade 2 will be announced sooner and that FTDNA will offer a CTS4528, DF100 panel.


I agree,

Trying to rectify that at the moment with FTDNA but if they dont get a move on I am afraid we may have to approach BDNA because my members are not going to wait indefinitely.

Joe B
11-18-2014, 10:15 PM
I agree,

Trying to rectify that at the moment with FTDNA but if they dont get a move on I am afraid we may have to approach BDNA because my members are not going to wait indefinitely.
Yseq (http://www.yseq.net) is an excellent choice for SNP testing. It's Sanger sequencing so as long as the YSEQ ID is associated with a FTDNA kit number it should be good to go for ISOGG. Byrgian and smal do a good job of tracking that stuff. YSEQ is very quick too.

morrisondna
11-19-2014, 03:25 AM
I want to second Joe's suggestion of YSEQ. Their customer service and turnaround time have been consistently excellent. Once primers are available, SNP tests are typically completed in about 9 days. Custom STR tests are available as well.

Edwin

brygian
11-19-2014, 06:22 AM
Moreover you can order any SNP test even if it is not in their catalog. You can also design custom SNP panels and get a discount:

http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=108&osCsid=980784da37005f4f8d4f31ea695719db

http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=4872&osCsid=980784da37005f4f8d4f31ea695719db

ballardgen
11-19-2014, 04:10 PM
Thanks Guys,
That's a lot of good advice......

Any news on FTDNA

Haplogroup administrators are going to be heavily involved in this process. Family Tree DNA is putting SNP panels together that will help further define the tree and where various SNPs that have been recently discovered, and continue to be discovered, will fall on the tree. As Big Y tests arrive, haplogroup project administrators typically assemble a spreadsheet of the SNPS and provisionally where they fall on the tree, based on the Big Y results. What Bennett asked is for the admins to work with Family Tree DNA to assemble a testing panel based on those results. The goal is for the cost to be between $1.50 and $2 (US) for each SNP in the panel, which will reduce the one-off SNP testing and provide a much more complete and productive result at a far reduced price as compared to the current $29 or $39 per individual SNP. If you are a haplogroup administrator, get in touch with Family Tree DNA to discuss your desired backbone panels. New panels, when it’s your turn, will take about 2 weeks to develop.

http://dna-explained.com/2014/10/15/tenth-annual-family-tree-dna-conference-wrapup/




Entry Level Panel including tests for any ambiguities around P311 et al. This is a work in progress so please feel free to check, rectify or comment. -

P310, PF6714,
P311,
U106, P312, CTS4528, DF100, S1194,
L112, S6157, S3846,
S11481, M7851, [1x15], CTS7206, S583,
S2642, CTS1276, S4631, S583-BDNA586 ?,
S14328, S2642, CTS1276,
S4631, CTS3849, S1253,
S583-BDNA580 ?,
S1196, S1253, L294, S1187, S17868, S826, FGC14435, Y6637064, [1x17], [1x9],
S6868, CTS3849, FGC7851, CTS1195, S9254, CTS7206, S23564, F686- 1KGP-HG00148 ?
F4346.

abt 45 snp's =$90 (FTDNA conference advertised)

Peter M
11-22-2014, 02:09 PM
Have any Big-Y tests been done in the DF100 (S1194) Group ? Are any results available somewhere ??

ballardgen
11-22-2014, 06:22 PM
Have any Big-Y tests been done in the DF100 (S1194) Group ? Are any results available somewhere ??

Several CTS4528 members have tested BIG Y but the results are not public, can I ask what your interest is ??

brygian
11-22-2014, 07:26 PM
Have any Big-Y tests been done in the DF100 (S1194) Group ? Are any results available somewhere ??

See the chart at https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new

Peter M
11-22-2014, 11:51 PM
Several CTS4528 members have tested BIG Y but the results are not public, can I ask what your interest is ??

I guess you can, you just did. $:-) - Sorry, I learnt this type of joke working for a British company in Amsterdam.

Looking through the Chromo2 results in detail, I came across a few SNPs in the vicinity of DF100 and was wondering what is known about that branch of the tree. A good perspective is to look at the results of the Big-Y analysis, if any exists in the branch. And then, of course, I have the secundary interest in how this analysis was being done in that specific branch of the tree (I'm always very interested in Full-Y analysis as developer of software for Full-Y analysis).

ballardgen
11-26-2014, 07:42 PM
Having contacted both FTDNA and Yseq for a price for a custom CTS4528/DF100 panel with no response to date it seems to me that I should go ahead and test and advise my project members to do the same for Cromo2 from BDNA - for the price of 129 GB pounds it seems like a no brainier I dont see either test company in the near future being able to offer anything as comprehensive for this price, this action will also ensure that continued progress is made regards the Y Tree

http://www.britainsdna.com/products/ydna

Any thought's welcomed ...

brygian
11-26-2014, 08:03 PM
Chromo2 is a good product but the only problem I find with it compared to YSEQ's tests is that the data cannot be used for developing the ISOGG tree. FTDNA's panels won't be announced any time soon.

ballardgen
11-26-2014, 08:58 PM
Chromo2 is a good product but the only problem I find with it compared to YSEQ's tests is that the data cannot be used for developing the ISOGG tree. FTDNA's panels won't be announced any time soon.

Once terminal types are established we could test a few terminal HG's and that would satisfy ISOGG Tree development ?

brygian
11-27-2014, 06:20 AM
We need two positive and one negative results for each SNP plus positive results for upstream SNPs. The minimum is three persons tested for two SNPs each.

ballardgen
11-27-2014, 12:09 PM
To All CTS4528/DF100 TESTERS

BIG Y Testers please request a .BAM file button on your FTDNA account, so you can download and submit your .BAM files to HT35 project request to [email protected]

We ask and recommend that all those members who have taken BIG Y no matter your type, CTS4528 P311 etc. Please contact Sergey Malyshev [email protected] and arrange to submit your .BAM files to him at the HT35 project so that he can examine these and rectify any current ambiguous findings in the development of the ongoing ISOGG Y Hp Tree.

ballardgen
01-10-2015, 08:03 PM
CTS4528 / DF100 - To encourage project growth - I have decided that when we have 50 appropriate CTS4528 members in this project, I will select a suitable candidate in the project and the project will pay for a S14328 test at FTDNA, If this is successful in increasing membership I may continue this process for every 10 new joiners thereafter. -

This is a great opportunity for other project admins to encourage others to join.

The more members we have the more will join and the more chance we have of finding those close related matches.

Can all project members please try to get involved and promote this offer appropriately.

Instruction to send out on how to join This Project

Log in to your FTDNA Home Page
Click "My Projects > Join"
Choose 'R' from "Y-DNA GEOGRAPHICAL PROJECTS"
On this page, Click on "R1b-S14328-Genealogy"
In the Comments section let me know what you have ordered or been tested
Press "Request"

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b-s14328-genealogy

ballardgen
04-21-2016, 07:52 PM
Log in to your FTDNA Home Page
Click "My Projects > Join"
Choose 'R' from "Y-DNA GEOGRAPHICAL PROJECTS"
On this page, Click on "R1b-S14328-Genealogy"
In the Comments section let me know what you have ordered or been tested
Press "Request"

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r1b-s14328-genealogy/about

URL updated. - https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r1b-s14328-genealogy/about

moesan
03-14-2017, 01:39 PM
just as a tourist!
Have you the today geographic distribution and density of this clade bearers in Eurasia? I'm so curious.*
Thanks in davance