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ZephyrousMandaru
12-15-2014, 09:38 AM
This thread is being created in advanced for an upcoming and more robust version of the previous, Eurogenes ANE K=7 test. Relevant post regarding this test can be found below as well as a spreadsheet showing the population averages for various groups.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.au/2014/12/ane-is-primary-cause-of-west-to-east.html

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x8pm8sVcHqceiNFJMO082kxaBF5ePr4__bAK05VQRFw/edit#gid=16465173

Edit: Can someone edit the title to "West Eurasia"?

DMXX
12-15-2014, 11:15 AM
South_Eurasian looks like some sort of ASI-heavy component (observe it is present only in trace frequencies across Europe). The Azeri and Iranian samples appear to have the most of it here (exceeds 5% in some individuals). Quite an interesting run!

J Man
12-15-2014, 01:13 PM
Cool stuff.

Tolan
12-16-2014, 03:35 PM
At the request of Krefter, I made a map for ANE.

I have no data for Germany, Belgium, Netherlands ... Also this map is very approximate.
What a shame there is no data for countries in eastern of Iran.
Can there be any connection between ANE and Indo-Europeans?

3222

parasar
12-16-2014, 04:21 PM
At the request of Krefter, I made a map for ANE.

I have no data for Germany, Belgium, Netherlands ... Also this map is very approximate.
What a shame there is no data for countries in eastern of Iran.
Can there be any connection between ANE and Indo-Europeans?

3222

Virtually every portion of South Asia should be in the ~30% range. As a group only Amerindians have higher %ages.
Any connection to Indo-Europeans therefore looks doubtful.

Kurd
12-18-2014, 03:23 AM
South_Eurasian looks like some sort of ASI-heavy component (observe it is present only in trace frequencies across Europe). The Azeri and Iranian samples appear to have the most of it here (exceeds 5% in some individuals). Quite an interesting run!

Just wanted to share the definition of South Eurasian as defined by David Wesolowski's in his blog at the link posted by Zephyrous:

"South Eurasian is a very widespread component that peaks in Malaysia at 60%, followed by Cambodia at 50%.

It's hard to say what it represents, because this test is mainly designed to distill ANE and WHG, so as to give Europeans an idea how much post-Mesolithic ancestry from outside of Europe they might have"

Personally, I do not see the value of using a component whose value is near zero for your target audience (Europeans).

ZephyrousMandaru
12-22-2014, 03:18 AM
One of my friends on 23andMe created some MDS Plots and Dendrograms based on the West Eurasia K=8 spreadsheet.

http://i.imgur.com/zXnBTWW.png

http://i.imgur.com/5K4WzgD.png

http://i.imgur.com/Ok4M30s.png

http://i.imgur.com/OWBRI1U.png

http://i.imgur.com/z39mlrT.png

I'll be creating MDS Plots and Dendrograms for everyone once this calculator is released.

Krefter
12-22-2014, 04:20 AM
Davidski did to, and it's basically identical to his PCA with genotype data, which means WHG, Near eastern, and ANE may be very robust forms of ancestry.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQQjU5dW81ajhEY3M/view

ZephyrousMandaru
12-31-2014, 08:46 PM
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2014/12/crowdfunding-for-2015-new-test.html

J Man
01-01-2015, 07:39 PM
My results. I think they make a lot of sense and it looks like overall I have more hunter-gatherer genes than farmer. I count both the WHG and ANE components as hunter-gatherer components as neither of them were part of the early Neolithic farming populations that have origins in the Near East. I know that the ANE component came to Europe mainly after the Neolithic but it has it's origins among Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Siberian hunter-gatherers most likely so that is why I am calling it a hunter-gatherer component. So when I add my WHG and ANE scores together I actually have overall more Upper Paleolithic/Mesolithic genes from European and Siberian origin hunter-gatherers than Neolithic farmer genes which are represented by the Near_Eastern component. Interesting stuff! :D

ANE 0.143191
South_Eurasian 0.020643
Near_Eastern 0.419885
East_Eurasian 0.009484
WHG 0.398153
Oceanian 0.00822
Pygmy 0.000415
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Lower-bound NE

ANE 0.141497
South_Eurasian 0.022145
Near_Eastern 0.386466
East_Eurasian 0.010388
WHG 0.429544
Oceanian 0.008904
Pygmy 0.001046
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

ZephyrousMandaru
01-04-2015, 12:41 AM
West Eurasia K8

ANE 13.72%
SEA 2.83%
Near Eastern 80.25%
East Eurasian 0
WHG 2.29%
Oceanian 0.40%
Pygmy 0.15%
SSA 0.36%

Plots

http://imageshack.com/a/img673/3048/uJkPEV.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/3928/J2L8JG.png

Volat
05-26-2015, 01:02 PM
Many individuals in selected populations of West Eurasia are outliers as per several statistical tests. The outliers can be removed or median measure can be used instead of average, as median is resistant to the outliers. PCA plot based on median values for selected European populations from Eurogenes K8 run (3200x1800 resolution): http://postimg.org/image/nmzkeb46l/full/

Aha
05-16-2017, 08:27 PM
Anyone knows if he is still doing this test?

michal3141
07-13-2018, 05:18 PM
Anyone knows if he is still doing this test?

Bump!

+ If there is an improved/newer version of such a calc. It is really an interesting one to me.

lukaszM
07-14-2018, 10:55 AM
Is it K8 from yourdnaportal.com maybe?

Aha
07-14-2018, 12:12 PM
Is it K8 from yourdnaportal.com maybe?

It is not. Components seems to differ

michal3141
07-14-2018, 01:18 PM
Anyone knows if he is still doing this test?

I've asked Davidski personally and unfortunately he is no longer doing this test.