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Meazzano
12-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Sorry for this thread but I have to ask you a question about my haplogroup. I am L-23* (23andMe). What can I do for find my ancestral tribe. In few words, is FTDNA the only way? Thank you:)

Joe B
12-16-2014, 04:03 PM
Sorry for this thread but I have to ask you a question about my haplogroup. I am L-23* (23andMe). What can I do for find my ancestral tribe. In few words, is FTDNA the only way? Thank you:)Hello Meazzano and welcome to the Anthrogenica forum. R1b-L23 is 23andme is a good start, but we can do so much more with new technologies to refine your place on the human tree. For Short tandem repeat (STR) data, needed for matching, FTDNA is the best game in town for that test. Single Nucleotide Polymorphism (SNP) testing can be done at several companies. Please join the R1b1a2 (P312- U106-) DNA Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new) haplogroup project when you get STR data.

A lot of information can be found about L23 in Forum: R1b Early Subclades. (http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?51-R1b-Early-Subclades)

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Y-STR
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Y-DNA_SNP_testing_chart

Meazzano
12-17-2014, 10:54 AM
Hello Meazzano and welcome to the Anthrogenica forum. R1b-L23 is 23andme is a good start, but we can do so much more with new technologies to refine your place on the human tree. For Short tandem repeat (STR) data, needed for matching, FTDNA is the best game in town for that test. Single Nucleotide Polymorphism (SNP) testing can be done at several companies. Please join the R1b1a2 (P312- U106-) DNA Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new) haplogroup project when you get STR data.

A lot of information can be found about L23 in Forum: R1b Early Subclades. (http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?51-R1b-Early-Subclades)

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Y-STR
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Y-DNA_SNP_testing_chart

Thank you Joe! But there's a problem...For now, I haven't too much money. FTDNA is very expensive...I'll wait I think. But are there other ways cheaper than it? Thak you!

Joe B
12-17-2014, 05:28 PM
Thank you Joe! But there's a problem...For now, I haven't too much money. FTDNA is very expensive...I'll wait I think. But are there other ways cheaper than it? Thak you!I wish there was another way to get that STR data into the R1b1a2 (P312- U106-) DNA (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new) haplogroup project or any other FTDNA project. We need at least the first 12 STRs tested at FTDNA. YSEQ (http://www.yseq.net/) does a great job testing STRs and SNPs, but the data does not transfer to FTDNA for project usage. We can track your YSEQ data after we get some STRs from FTDNA. The sale price at FTDNA is $129 for a 37 STR test. Maybe a coupon can be found to help. Please check with the Italy DNA Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Italy/) to see if they have any ideas. The STR and SNP testing are well worth the money.
It's too little data, but does anybody know if FTDNA still sells a 12 STR test?

Meazzano
12-17-2014, 09:12 PM
I wish there was another way to get that STR data into the R1b1a2 (P312- U106-) DNA (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new) haplogroup project or any other FTDNA project. We need at least the first 12 STRs tested at FTDNA. YSEQ (http://www.yseq.net/) does a great job testing STRs and SNPs, but the data does not transfer to FTDNA for project usage. We can track your YSEQ data after we get some STRs from FTDNA. The sale price at FTDNA is $129 for a 37 STR test. Maybe a coupon can be found to help. Please check with the Italy DNA Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Italy/) to see if they have any ideas. The STR and SNP testing are well worth the money.
It's too little data, but does anybody know if FTDNA still sells a 12 STR test?

Thank you Joe, again. I'll see Italy DNA Project. However I want to explain my situation: My surname is Montingelli. It comes from northern Apulia (modern Puglia in southern Italy). Most of the people refer to greek colonization. But I don't know....Greeks settled in southern Apulia. Although it is very difficult, what options would you see as most likely, both in terms of subclades, both in terms of more concrete ethnography (Daunes, Greeks etc.)...thank you!

Meazzano
12-17-2014, 09:14 PM
Italy DNA project is temporary unavaible...

GoldenHind
02-27-2015, 12:12 AM
There is someone in the R1b-P312 and Subclades Project of apparent Hungarian origin whose Big Y test results show him as R1b-L23*. Can anyone advise me on what project(s) I should urge him to join?

Joe B
02-27-2015, 02:26 AM
There is someone in the R1b-P312 and Subclades Project of apparent Hungarian origin whose Big Y test results show him as R1b-L23*. Can anyone advise me on what project(s) I should urge him to join?Please have that individual join the R1b1a2 (P312- U106-) DNA Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new). This person is R1b-Z2109 like myself and we really want this person to join. R1b-M269>L23>Z2103>Z2106>Z2108>Z2109>M64.3
Thanks GoldenHind