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SwampThing27
12-29-2014, 08:05 AM
British, Dutch, German, and French ancestry

Population
Basque 3.55%
Central_Euro 4.81%
East_Balkan 0.62%
East_Central_Euro 4.51%
East_Med 0.15%
Eastern_Euro 6.51%
Fennoscandian 9.43%
French 3.12%
Iberian 14.14%
Italian 13.74%
North_Atlantic 16.00%
North_Sea 17.07%
South_Asian 0.66%
South_Central_Asian 2.53%
Volga-Ural 0.71%
West_African 0.50%
West_Med 1.87%

I wonder what the Italian component represents. I find that I score higher than most people with similar ancestry.

Tolan
12-29-2014, 01:01 PM
Italian: It'is the northern Italian + Tuscan.
See here:https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/edit

The reference populations are the populations of today.
So, I would say that 13.74% of your ancestors are also the ancestors of some Italian. But that does not mean they were Italian!


Me:
1 Iberian 18.29
2 North Atlantic 16.54
3 Italian 13.35
4 North Sea 10.76
5 French 7.58
6 Central Euro 7.3
7 East Central Euro 5.52
8 East Balkan 5.13
9 Eastern Euro 4.25
10 Fennoscandian 3.7
11 West Med 2.76
12 North Caucasian 2.63
13 Basque 1.09
14 North African 1.08

John Doe
12-29-2014, 01:25 PM
Ashkenazi Jewish:


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.43%
Armenian 6.08%
Basque 1.91%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.74%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.11%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.11%
East_Med 15.86%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 4.88%
Iberian 13.17%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.43%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 12.76%
North_African 2.08%
North_Atlantic 6.17%
North_Caucasian 6.93%
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.59%
West_Med 2.73%

Salkin
12-29-2014, 01:39 PM
Me:

1 North_Sea 18,13%
2 Fennoscandian 16,28%
3 North_Atlantic 15,78%
4 Iberian 13,86%
5 East_Central_Euro 9,83%
6 Central_Euro 7,17%
7 Eastern_Euro 7,16%
8 French 6,34%
9 Italian 4,60%
10 Basque 0,54%
11 Amerindian 0,30%

My mum:

1 Fennoscandian 18,91%
2 North_Sea 16,33%
3 Iberian 15,39%
4 North_Atlantic 13,12%
5 East_Central_Euro 9,83%
6 Central_Euro 8,63%
7 French 5,71%
8 Eastern_Euro 5,02%
9 Italian 2,68%
10 East_Balkan 2,06%
11 Basque 2,01%
12 Amerindian 0,31%

I'm surprised we're getting that much Iberian, but I guess that's down to very ancient ancestry as noted above. Our Amerindian is a lot lower than in K13 and K15.

John Doe
12-29-2014, 01:43 PM
Me:

1 North_Sea 18,13%
2 Fennoscandian 16,28%
3 North_Atlantic 15,78%
4 Iberian 13,86%
5 East_Central_Euro 9,83%
6 Central_Euro 7,17%
7 Eastern_Euro 7,16%
8 French 6,34%
9 Italian 4,60%
10 Basque 0,54%
11 Amerindian 0,30%

My mum:

1 Fennoscandian 18,91%
2 North_Sea 16,33%
3 Iberian 15,39%
4 North_Atlantic 13,12%
5 East_Central_Euro 9,83%
6 Central_Euro 8,63%
7 French 5,71%
8 Eastern_Euro 5,02%
9 Italian 2,68%
10 East_Balkan 2,06%
11 Basque 2,01%
12 Amerindian 0,31%

I'm surprised we're getting that much Iberian, but I guess that's down to very ancient ancestry as noted above. Our Amerindian is a lot lower than in K13 and K15.

I'm also surprised by the high Iberian I get.

Webb
12-29-2014, 01:55 PM
Armenian 0.56%
Basque 0.72%
Central_Euro 3.61%
East_Balkan 2.21%
East_Central_Euro 8.92%
Fennoscandian 11.09%
French 7.79%
Iberian 14.24%
Italian 10.69%
North_Atlantic 13.62%
North_Caucasian 2.16%
North_Sea 20.10%
Oceanian 0.25%
Volga-Ural 0.90%
West_Caucasian 0.62%
West_Med 2.48%

These are my results. I just uploaded my raw data to gedmatch this weekend. This is very cool.

ArmandoR1b
12-29-2014, 02:34 PM
These are the results of a person that is half Bavarian and half western Irish.

High Iberian in this person too. As Tolan stated it is from shared ancestry, In this case it is with Iberians and that doesn't mean there are Iberian ancestors. Some of the people involved in the multiple waves of migration into Europe also went to Iberia. Some of the DNA is more common in Iberians but not exclusive to them.

Basque 0.56%
Central_Euro 5.33%
East_Central_Euro 7.53%
Eastern_Euro 2.31%
Fennoscandian 7.87%
French 8.94%
Iberian 19.31%
Italian 10.19%
North_Atlantic 16.66%
North_Caucasian 0.73%
North_Sea 16.82%
South_Central_Asian 1.49%
Volga-Ural 0.59%
West_Caucasian 0.51%
West_Med 1.15%

ArmandoR1b
12-29-2014, 02:39 PM
Me:

1 North_Sea 18,13%
2 Fennoscandian 16,28%
3 North_Atlantic 15,78%
4 Iberian 13,86%
5 East_Central_Euro 9,83%
6 Central_Euro 7,17%
7 Eastern_Euro 7,16%
8 French 6,34%
9 Italian 4,60%
10 Basque 0,54%
11 Amerindian 0,30%

My mum:

1 Fennoscandian 18,91%
2 North_Sea 16,33%
3 Iberian 15,39%
4 North_Atlantic 13,12%
5 East_Central_Euro 9,83%
6 Central_Euro 8,63%
7 French 5,71%
8 Eastern_Euro 5,02%
9 Italian 2,68%
10 East_Balkan 2,06%
11 Basque 2,01%
12 Amerindian 0,31%

I'm surprised we're getting that much Iberian, but I guess that's down to very ancient ancestry as noted above. Our Amerindian is a lot lower than in K13 and K15.

Yes, the Iberian is due to very ancient ancestry.

ArmandoR1b
12-29-2014, 02:40 PM
Armenian 0.56%
Basque 0.72%
Central_Euro 3.61%
East_Balkan 2.21%
East_Central_Euro 8.92%
Fennoscandian 11.09%
French 7.79%
Iberian 14.24%
Italian 10.69%
North_Atlantic 13.62%
North_Caucasian 2.16%
North_Sea 20.10%
Oceanian 0.25%
Volga-Ural 0.90%
West_Caucasian 0.62%
West_Med 2.48%

These are my results. I just uploaded my raw data to gedmatch this weekend. This is very cool.

What is your known ancestry?

Webb
12-29-2014, 03:00 PM
What is your known ancestry?

My father is entirely British. I have traced most of his lines with documentation back to the late 1700's here in the U.S. The only line I am missing is Webb, which is why I started this DNA adventure in the first place. However, my Y matches Wilder's from England, so the NPE for Webb happened just after arriving in the U.S., or just before leaving England. My mom's is a bit more complicated. My maternal grandfather had three grandparents born in Germany and one grandparent who is of British origin, documentation to mid 1800's. My maternal grandmother is half German and half British, documentation for all back to late 1700's in the U.S.

rms2
12-29-2014, 04:20 PM
My known ancestry is mostly British and Irish, with some French and Dutch on my dad's side.

Here are my Eurogenes K36 results, in order:

Population
North_Sea 20.84%
North_Atlantic 15.50%
Fennoscandian 13.91%
Iberian 12.75%
French 7.80%
Central_Euro 7.00%
East_Central_Euro 6.53%
Italian 6.39%
Basque 4.42%
East_Balkan 2.28%
Volga-Ural 1.26%
South_Central_Asian 0.76%
Amerindian 0.31%
West_Med 0.19%
North_Caucasian 0.06%

rms2
12-29-2014, 04:43 PM
My known ancestry is mostly British and Irish, with some French and Dutch on my dad's side.

Here are my Eurogenes K36 results, in order:

Population
North_Sea 20.84%
North_Atlantic 15.50%
Fennoscandian 13.91%
Iberian 12.75%
French 7.80%
Central_Euro 7.00%
East_Central_Euro 6.53%
Italian 6.39%
Basque 4.42%
East_Balkan 2.28%
Volga-Ural 1.26%
South_Central_Asian 0.76%
Amerindian 0.31%
West_Med 0.19%
North_Caucasian 0.06%

Here are my dad's K36 results, with the quote of mine above, so you can compare, if you care to.

Population
North_Sea 18.28%
Fennoscandian 12.86%
Italian 12.27%
North_Atlantic 11.71%
Central_Euro 10.39%
French 8.71%
East_Central_Euro 6.90%
Iberian 6.71%
East_Balkan 4.17%
Basque 4.13%
West_Caucasian 1.96%
Eastern_Euro 1.04%
Amerindian 0.53%
Volga-Ural 0.31%

My dad's Italian score is a surprise for me. It's even higher than his North Atlantic score.

SwampThing27
12-29-2014, 04:52 PM
Here are my dad's K36 results, with the quote of mine above, so you can compare, if you care to.

Population
North_Sea 18.28%
Fennoscandian 12.86%
Italian 12.27%
North_Atlantic 11.71%
Central_Euro 10.39%
French 8.71%
East_Central_Euro 6.90%
Iberian 6.71%
East_Balkan 4.17%
Basque 4.13%
West_Caucasian 1.96%
Eastern_Euro 1.04%
Amerindian 0.53%
Volga-Ural 0.31%

My dad's Italian score is a surprise for me. It's even higher than his North Atlantic score.

Is your mother from a different background than your dad? Your dad seems more continental than you.

SwampThing27
12-29-2014, 04:53 PM
Italian: It'is the northern Italian + Tuscan.
See here:https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/edit

The reference populations are the populations of today.
So, I would say that 13.74% of your ancestors are also the ancestors of some Italian. But that does not mean they were Italian!


Me:
1 Iberian 18.29
2 North Atlantic 16.54
3 Italian 13.35
4 North Sea 10.76
5 French 7.58
6 Central Euro 7.3
7 East Central Euro 5.52
8 East Balkan 5.13
9 Eastern Euro 4.25
10 Fennoscandian 3.7
11 West Med 2.76
12 North Caucasian 2.63
13 Basque 1.09
14 North African 1.08

Thanks for the spreadsheet. I hadn't seen that one before.

rms2
12-29-2014, 04:57 PM
Is your mother from a different background than your dad? Your dad seems more continental than you.

My mother, as far as I know, has only British and Irish ancestry. Of the British part, at least some of it is Scots.

There are a lot of holes in the pedigrees on both sides of the family, however. I know very little, for example, about my paternal grandmother's family beyond the surnames of her parents (Pierce and McElroy).

rms2
12-29-2014, 05:15 PM
I noticed that my father and I have fairly high French scores compared with everyone else thus far, 8.71% and 7.80%, respectively.

I know of at least one French line on my dad's side (surname Micou), and there may be more, since my dad is from New Orleans originally.

vettor
12-29-2014, 05:54 PM
IMO
This K36 was weighted on the iberian side , maybe for USA testers

It the the ONLY program in all the different tests ( eurogenes, mdlp, harrapaword and dodecad) that shows I have more than 0.5% iberian ...........very strange test

Petr
12-29-2014, 06:02 PM
East_Central_Euro 15,42%
Central_Euro 12,39%
Fennoscandian 12,01%
North_Sea 10,90%
Eastern_Euro 10,65%
North_Atlantic 9,17%
Iberian 8,31%
Italian 6,60%
French 5,08%
East_Balkan 4,12%
Basque 2,30%
West_Med 1,56%
Armenian 0,93%
Volga-Ural 0,32%
North_Caucasian 0,25%

AFAIK my origin is 3/4 Czech, 1/8 German, 1/8 Austrian.

Rick
12-29-2014, 06:23 PM
Will FTDNA's Family Finder work for this? 2 days left on the sale. What else will work? When I have my results, where do I find the black box?

rms2
12-29-2014, 06:27 PM
Will FTDNA's Family Finder work for this? 2 days left on the sale. What else will work? When I have my results, where do I find the black box?

Yes. I and my dad have only Family Finder results, and they work fine in Gedmatch, which is where you go to upload your results and run all this cool stuff.

Gedmatch (http://v2.gedmatch.com/login1.php)

I recommend Family Finder, Rick. It is definitely more than worth the price, especially since it is on sale.

23andMe results also work in Gedmatch.

Wulf Warrior
12-29-2014, 06:28 PM
Mine,

English and Polish ancestry.


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.63%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.52%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.84%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.42%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.78%
Fennoscandian 12.99%
French 7.64%
Iberian 13.21%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.26%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.66%
North_Caucasian 1.06%
North_Sea 22.67%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.32%
West_Med -

Rick
12-29-2014, 06:31 PM
Thanks Rich. Late Christmas present I reckon.

rms2
12-29-2014, 06:34 PM
Thanks Rich. Late Christmas present I reckon.

I ordered it for my mom, too. FTDNA just received her kit a couple of days ago. I'm looking forward to her results.

Family Finder results are actually a lot more fun that y-dna or mtDNA results, IMHO, although y-dna is still my Number One interest.

I think you will be glad you ordered Family Finder.

rms2
12-29-2014, 06:49 PM
Mine,

English and Polish ancestry.


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.63%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.52%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.84%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.42%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.78%
Fennoscandian 12.99%
French 7.64%
Iberian 13.21%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.26%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.66%
North_Caucasian 1.06%
North_Sea 22.67%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.32%
West_Med -

Pretty high North Sea score, which seems to support what you have in your signature from Davidski.

Mike Wilson
12-30-2014, 01:00 AM
Mine seems par for the course

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the Eurogenes K36 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Eurogenes Genetic Ancestry Project blog.

Kit Number: M135*** Iteration: 1000 Delta-Q: 2.132237e+01 Elapsed Time: 160.59 seconds


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.34%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.72%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.75%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.82%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 9.34%
French 8.59%
Iberian 13.33%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 7.69%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 17.35%
North_Caucasian 2.35%
North_Sea 19.72%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.00%

Mike Wilson
12-30-2014, 01:15 AM
My wife who is a little more SJ (& a bit AJ) than I am

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the Eurogenes K36 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Eurogenes Genetic Ancestry Project blog.

Kit Number: M214*** Iteration: 1000 Delta-Q: 1.686154e+00 Elapsed Time: 179.66 seconds


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.70%
Central_African 0.36%
Central_Euro 8.33%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.55%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.31%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.83%
Fennoscandian 11.93%
French 5.84%
Iberian 14.21%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.83%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 20.51%
North_Caucasian 0.99%
North_Sea 16.97%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.43%
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.10%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.07%

jeanL
12-30-2014, 04:12 AM
My maternal grandaunt(Maternal's Grandfather Younger sister), White Cuban with 1/16 Galician ancestry from La Coruña.


Population
Amerindian 1.82%
Arabian -
Armenian 0.43%
Basque 4.88%
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.71%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.29%
East_Med 3.05%
Eastern_Euro 0.69%
Fennoscandian -
French 4.83%
Iberian 25.01%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 18.37%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.94%
North_African 4.95%
North_Atlantic 8.95%
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 6.57%
Northeast_African 2.72%
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 0.54%
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese 0.26%
Volga-Ural -
West_African 1.60%
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.39%

jeanL
12-30-2014, 04:23 AM
My mother K36 scores, half Cuban from dad, 1/8 Murcian 1/8 Galician from mom.


Population
Amerindian 1.09%
Arabian 1.62%
Armenian 1.16%
Basque 6.15%
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African 1.02%
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.33%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 3.26%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 2.09%
French 4.30%
Iberian 21.74%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 19.69%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.07%
North_African 4.55%
North_Atlantic 8.83%
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 9.59%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.26%
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 2.63%
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.62%

jeanL
12-30-2014, 04:26 AM
Duplicate post-please delete.

Gray Fox
12-31-2014, 12:00 AM
Might as well toss my hat in the ring..


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 1.11%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.99%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.76%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.87%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.18%
Fennoscandian 8.11%
French 4.18%
Iberian 15.33%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.01%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 16.59%
North_Caucasian 0.34%
North_Sea 19.89%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.12%
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.28%
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.25%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.75%
West_Med 1.25%

Rukha
12-31-2014, 12:18 AM
South_Central_Asian 45.21%
North_Caucasian 18.16%
South_Asian 10.34%
West_Caucasian 5.64%
East_Central_Euro 3.90%
Fennoscandian 2.94%
East_Med 2.62%
Armenian 2.48%
Amerindian 2.13%
Central_Euro 1.81%
East_Balkan1.39%
Volga-Ural 0.88%
Eastern_Euro 0.77%
Near_Eastern 0.74%
North_Atlantic 0.66%

ViktorL1
12-31-2014, 02:49 AM
Amerindian 1.05%
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African 0.30%
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian 13.52%
East_Balkan 4.22%
East_Central_Asian 7.79%
East_Central_Euro 2.49%
East_Med 1.53%
Eastern_Euro 0.99%
Fennoscandian 3.81%
French 0.24%
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.75%
North_African -
North_Atlantic 3.98%
North_Caucasian 15.18%
North_Sea 2.65%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 12.94%
South_Asian 3.11%
South_Central_Asian 19.83%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 3.00%
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.56%
West_Med -

Here are mine.

jesus
12-31-2014, 04:28 AM
My sister's result. Very similar to mine but she has higher south central asian and I have higher south asian and North caucasian.

South_Central_Asian 30.19%
Near_Eastern 14.81%
East_Med 12.71%
Armenian 10.97%
North_Caucasian 8.57%
Arabian 6.23%
West_Caucasian 3.48%
West_African 2.86%
South_Asian 2.18%
French 2.12%
Northeast_African 1.77%
Central_African 1.51%
North_Atlantic 1.24%
East_Central_Euro 0.77%
Italian 0.07%

Bulut
12-31-2014, 07:56 AM
As far as i know, i only have Turkish ancestry.

Arabian 3.34%
Armenian 10.02%
Central_Euro 0.74%
East_Asian 0.05%
East_Balkan 0.72%
East_Central_Asian 2.72%
East_Central_Euro 0.19%
East_Med 12.66%
Eastern_Euro 0.46%
Fennoscandian 1.77%
French 1.80%
Iberian 4.03%
Italian 16.06%
Near_Eastern 6.72%
North_Atlantic 0.88%
North_Caucasian 13.42%
North_Sea 0.36%
Northeast_African 0.84%
Oceanian 0.06%
Siberian 6.10%
South_Asian 0.55%
South_Central_Asian 9.10%
Volga-Ural 0.93%
West_Caucasian 5.28%
West_Med 1.20%

Sangarius
12-31-2014, 01:41 PM
http://abload.de/img/k36jysm1.png

Gray Fox
12-31-2014, 06:48 PM
These are the results of a person that is half Bavarian and half western Irish.

High Iberian in this person too. As Tolan stated it is from shared ancestry, In this case it is with Iberians and that doesn't mean there are Iberian ancestors. Some of the people involved in the multiple waves of migration into Europe also went to Iberia. Some of the DNA is more common in Iberians but not exclusive to them.

Basque 0.56%
Central_Euro 5.33%
East_Central_Euro 7.53%
Eastern_Euro 2.31%
Fennoscandian 7.87%
French 8.94%
Iberian 19.31%
Italian 10.19%
North_Atlantic 16.66%
North_Caucasian 0.73%
North_Sea 16.82%
South_Central_Asian 1.49%
Volga-Ural 0.59%
West_Caucasian 0.51%
West_Med 1.15%

Made me think of Michael Fassbender. Though I'm not sure if his mother is of native stock or planter as she is from Antrim.

Helgenes50
01-19-2015, 06:01 AM
I'm also surprised by the high Iberian I get.

Your results are not so surprising if you compare with Gokhem, she has 39,35 % of Iberian.

Helgenes50
01-19-2015, 06:25 AM
Your results are not so surprising if you compare with Gokhem, she has 39,35 % of Iberian.

This comment is for Salkin about his surprising high level of Iberian

zarafshaan
01-19-2015, 07:19 AM
arabian 4.58%
armenian 3.71%
east-african 0.37%
east-med 7.63%
near-eastern 13.61 %
north-caucasian 15.03%
omotic 0.45%
south-asian 3.51%
south-central-asian 44.56%
volga-ural 0.60%
west-african 1.66%
west-caucasian 4.30%

Kurd
02-13-2015, 01:58 PM
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Kurd
02-13-2015, 04:09 PM
My sister's result. Very similar to mine but she has higher south central asian and I have higher south asian and North caucasian.

South_Central_Asian 30.19%
Near_Eastern 14.81%
East_Med 12.71%
Armenian 10.97%
North_Caucasian 8.57%
Arabian 6.23%
West_Caucasian 3.48%
West_African 2.86%
South_Asian 2.18%
French 2.12%
Northeast_African 1.77%
Central_African 1.51%
North_Atlantic 1.24%
East_Central_Euro 0.77%
Italian 0.07%

Your sister has higher SC Asian than me, but I have higher S Asian like you. Have you posted yours anywhere? Just wanted to compare with mine that I just posted.:)

SwampThing27
02-13-2015, 04:27 PM
I realized that I had never posted here. Here are mine. I found it interesting that this calculator assigns me the lowest S. Asian component of any calculator 5.28%). I usually get 10 - 15% S. Asian. It appears that this one has high thresholds on its components. S. Asian appears to reference deep S. India.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah42/dil88888/Eurogenis%20K36%20Admix-1_zpsldfbnjtg.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/dil88888/media/Eurogenis%20K36%20Admix-1_zpsldfbnjtg.jpg.html)

I agree about the deep South Indian.

randwulf
02-13-2015, 05:26 PM
Uh oh - we are all catching up on the old threads....I had better keep up!

Population

Italian 16.56%
North_Atlantic 14.49%
Iberian 13.43%
North_Sea 12.52%
French 9.59%
Fennoscandian 8.16%
Central_Euro 6.72%
Eastern_Euro 6.14%
West_Med 4.32%
East_Central_Euro 2.95%
East_Med 2.64%
Basque 1.50%
East_Balkan 0.97%

BalkanKiwi
02-13-2015, 10:45 PM
Population

Basque 1.66%
Central_Euro 10.02%
East_Balkan 5.95%
East_Central_Euro 4.54%
East_Med 2.13%
Eastern_Euro 6.86%
Fennoscandian 4.98%
French 4.06%
Iberian 14.54%
Italian 8.79%
North_Atlantic 12.71%
North_Caucasian 3.56%
North_Sea 18.56%
Oceanian 0.15%
Volga-Ural 0.39%
West_Med 1.10%

Jessie
02-14-2015, 04:49 AM
K36 for myself, mother, brother and daughter.

Basque 0.88%
Central_Euro 8.43%
East_Balkan 3.84%
East_Central_Euro 5.14%
Eastern_Euro 6.80%
Fennoscandian 7.54%
French 8.34%
Iberian 14.23%
Italian 0.69%
North_Atlantic 21.03%
North_Caucasian 1.33%
North_Sea 19.48%
Volga-Ural 0.32%
West_Caucasian 1.95%

Mother

Basque 2.47%
Central_Euro 6.80%
East_Balkan 0.34%
East_Central_Euro 5.71%
Eastern_Euro 6.68%
Fennoscandian 10.34%
French 8.31%
Iberian 14.72%
Italian 1.41%
North_Atlantic 16.67%
North_Caucasian 4.20%
North_Sea 20.11%
South_Central_Asian 1.37%
West_Caucasian 0.54%
West_Med 0.35%

Brother

Basque 1.92%
Central_Euro 6.56%
East_Central_Euro 9.58%
Eastern_Euro 5.50%
Fennoscandian 8.77%
French 6.22%
Iberian 12.69%
Italian 4.68%
North_Atlantic 19.75%
North_Caucasian 0.42%
North_Sea 19.47%
Volga-Ural 1.29%
West_Caucasian 3.15%

Daughter
Basque 3.68%
Central_Euro 7.69%
East_Balkan 1.19%
East_Central_Euro 1.68%
Eastern_Euro 7.78%
Fennoscandian 7.31%
French 8.73%
Iberian 15.90%
Italian 5.36%
North_Atlantic 18.30%
North_Caucasian 2.67%
North_Sea 19.32%
West_Med 0.34%

Anglecynn
02-14-2015, 10:02 AM
Here's mine, i may add the ones for the rest of my family later:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.80%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.75%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.55%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.67%
East_Med 2.79%
Eastern_Euro 4.04%
Fennoscandian 4.95%
French 7.56%
Iberian 8.78%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 8.35%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 14.58%
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 20.87%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.11%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.13%
West_African 0.24%
West_Caucasian 2.16%
West_Med 0.68%

Kaido
02-14-2015, 12:30 PM
Population
South_Central_Asian 38.59%
South_Asian 25.46%
North_Caucasian 14.34%
East_Central_Euro 5.21%
West_Caucasian 5.07%
Near_Eastern 2.44%
Volga-Ural 1.82%
East_Med 1.76%
Armenian 1.73%
Eastern_Euro 1.26%
Fennoscandian 0.88%
Central_Euro 0.56%
West_African 0.29%
Central_African 0.27%
Siberian 0.18%
Amerindian 0.11%

fil
03-04-2015, 04:18 AM
Population
Amerindian 0.06%
Arabian -
Armenian 0.98%
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African 0.22%
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 3.62%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan 1.68%
Near_Eastern 0.84%
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 1.95%
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 1.89%
Omotic 0.42%
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 52.46%
South_Central_Asian 33.25%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.62%
West_Med -

Stephen1986
03-04-2015, 02:00 PM
The first result is mine, the second is my brother's.

Basque 1.57/1.08 (I have 0.49% more)
Central_Euro 8.91/8.36 (I have 0.55% more)
East_Balkan 0.33/3.19 (My brother has 2.86% more)
East_Central_Euro 4.91/3.99 (I have 0.92% more)
Eastern_Euro 3.21/4.85 (My brother has 1.64% more)
Fennoscandian 9.79/9.44 (I have 0.35% more)
French 5.51/2.52 (I have 2.99% more)
Iberian 14.10/16.70 (My brother has 2.6% more)
Italian 9.6/8.42 (I have 1.18% more)
North_Atlantic 19.70/21.23 (My brother has 1.53% more)
North_Caucasian 1.65 (My brother doesn't show any of this component)
North_Sea 19.91/17.76 (I have 2.15% more)
South_Central_Asian none/1.74 (I don't show any of this component)
Volga-Ural 0.81/0.72 (I have 0.09% more)

Shaikorth
03-05-2015, 01:58 PM
Karelian EHG

Amerindian 12.82%
East_Central_Euro 10.99%
Eastern_Euro 25.30%
Fennoscandian 32.38%
North_Atlantic 7.10%
North_Sea 0.26%
Volga-Ural 11.14%

There are obvious differences to WHG's although Fennoscandian remains the largest component. Volga-Ural and Amerindian appear, portions of East-Central Euro and Eastern Euro are reversed. Basque vanishes as almost does North Sea, perhaps indicating it's less "eastern" in some way than North Atlantic.

MfA
03-16-2015, 02:23 PM
.....

wmehar
11-05-2015, 10:27 PM
In NO particular order..

Population
Amerindian 0.26%
Arabian 2.28%
Armenian 7.23%
Basque 0.38%
East_Balkan 3.95%
East_Med 9.91%
Eastern_Euro 0.71%
French 0.91%
Iberian 1.84%
Italian 12.75%
Near_Eastern 5.46%
North_African 0.44%
North_Atlantic 3.46%
North_Caucasian 9.11%
North_Sea 0.81%
South_Asian 11.82%
South_Central_Asian 23.53%
West_Caucasian 5.15%

gruder
11-05-2015, 11:33 PM
Here is mine.

Population
Amerindian 1.05%
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.81%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.52%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.64%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 0.08%
Fennoscandian 13.29%
French 5.04%
Iberian 13.78%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.92%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 17.64%
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 16.75%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.34%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.81%
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.28%
West_Med -

Macura
11-06-2015, 04:20 PM
East Central Euro 13.95
Italian 12.13
Eastearn Euro 10.84
East Med 9.12
North Sea 8.38
North Atlantic 8.25
Central Euro 6.97
East Balkan 6.66
Iberian 6.33
FennoScandian 5.55
French 3.32
Armenian 2.85
West Med 1.59
Basque 1.30
Near Eastern 0.83
North Caucasian 0.75
West Caucasian 0.60
South Central Asian 0.34
Oceanian 0.23

kerbal
11-06-2015, 08:44 PM
Iberian 20.07%
Italian 17.19%
North_Sea 15.73%
North_Atlantic 12.98%
Basque 7.91%
French 5.35%
Central_Euro 4.83%
East_Balkan 3.95%
West_Med 3.17%
Fennoscandian 3.01%
East_Central_Euro 2.28%
Eastern_Euro 1.67%
Indo-Chinese 0.92%
Volga-Ural 0.37%
Amerindian 0.28%
Omotic 0.25%

MonkeyDLuffy
11-06-2015, 09:31 PM
Population
Amerindian 0.84%
Arabian -
Armenian 1.04%
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.91%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.74%
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.14%
North_Caucasian 6.88%
North_Sea 1.58%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 39.69%
South_Central_Asian 37.26%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.01%
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.90%
West_Med -

firemonkey
11-07-2015, 04:15 AM
English,Scottish and Irish ancestry according to known paper trail.

FTDNA

North_Sea 22.95%
North_Atlantic 20.04%
Iberian 13.51%
Fennoscandian 11.41%
French 8.06%
East_Central_Euro 5.62%
Central_Euro 4.40%
North_Caucasian 3.95%
Eastern_Euro 3.55%
Italian 2.90%
Basque 2.07%
West_Med 0.83%
Volga-Ural 0.34%
Omotic 0.22%
Amerindian 0.15%


23andMe
North_Sea 23.26%
North_Atlantic 20.60%
Iberian 13.04%
Fennoscandian 11.39%
French 7.32%
East_Central_Euro 5.59%
Central_Euro 4.57%
North_Caucasian 3.77%
Eastern_Euro 3.32%
Italian 3.32%
Basque 2.22%
Volga-Ural 0.59%
West_Med 0.54%
Central_African 0.18%
Omotic 0.11%
Amerindian 0.10%
Pygmy 0.06%

E_M81_I3A
11-08-2015, 12:46 PM
My results:

Population
Iberian 19.56%
Italian 14.43%
North_African 10.93%
Northeast_African 6.81%
West_Med 6.79%
East_Med 6.10%
Central_Euro 5.40%
French 3.94%
North_Sea 3.63%
North_Atlantic 3.39%
Near_Eastern 3.35%
West_African 3.31%
Fennoscandian 3.30%
East_Balkan 2.97%
Arabian 2.26%
Basque 1.36%
Armenian 1.13%
East_Central_Euro 1.13%
East_African 0.23%

Mother's results (South East France):

Population
Italian 21.17%
Iberian 17.66%
North_Sea 10.64%
North_Atlantic 10.27%
French 7.53%
Central_Euro 7.33%
West_Med 6.65%
Basque 4.60%
East_Central_Euro 3.60%
Fennoscandian 3.07%
Eastern_Euro 2.37%
East_Balkan 2.34%
East_Med 1.50%
Armenian 1.26%

Uncle's results (North Portugal):

Population
Iberian 24.19%
Italian 16.29%
West_Med 7.83%
Basque 6.90%
North_Sea 6.75%
French 6.60%
North_African 6.51%
Central_Euro 5.49%
Northeast_African 4.61%
North_Atlantic 4.17%
East_Central_Euro 2.86%
Arabian 2.82%
Fennoscandian 2.21%
Armenian 2.11%
East_Med 0.19%
West_African 0.19%
East_Balkan 0.17%
Volga-Ural 0.12%

Other interesting results:

Moroccan:

North_African 30.48%
Northeast_African 13.26%
Iberian 12.73%
Near_Eastern 10.57%
West_Med 7.19%
Italian 6.95%
Arabian 6.86%
East_Med 6.11%
West_African 2.26%
East_Balkan 2.15%
East_African 1.44%

Tunisian:

Population
North_African 20.15%
Iberian 16.51%
Near_Eastern 10.69%
Northeast_African 9.57%
East_Med 9.30%
Italian 7.69%
West_Med 5.36%
Armenian 5.29%
Arabian 3.22%
Basque 2.77%
West_African 2.74%
East_African 2.15%
East_Balkan 2.11%
French 1.64%
Central_Euro 0.51%
North_Caucasian 0.30%

Egyptian:

Near_Eastern 27.39%
Arabian 24.35%
East_Med 21.45%
Northeast_African 11.28%
West_Med 6.82%
North_African 6.36%
Italian 1.57%
West_Caucasian 0.64%
Armenian 0.14%

Algerian Jew:

Population
Italian 18.57%
East_Med 17.71%
Near_Eastern 16.89%
Arabian 10.04%
Armenian 9.57%
Iberian 9.32%
North_African 5.49%
Northeast_African 3.92%
West_Med 3.04%
West_Caucasian 2.25%
East_Balkan 1.73%
South_Central_Asian 1.47%

Mellifluous
11-10-2015, 05:17 AM
Population

Amerindian 1.35%
Armenian 3.47%
Basque 0.47%
Central_Euro 2.15%
East_Balkan 1.12%
East_Central_Asian 0.07%
East_Med 0.53%
Fennoscandian 3.96%
Near_Eastern 3.20%
North_Atlantic 1.31%
North_Caucasian 18.58%
North_Sea 1.99%
Oceanian 1.05%
Siberian 0.84%
South_Asian 16.42%
South_Central_Asian 38.18%
Volga-Ural 2.08%
West_Caucasian 3.19%

This calculator seems to be similar to MDLP K23b

Asimakidis
11-11-2015, 09:11 PM
Me:FTDNA (ancestry 75%Pontic Greek, 25 Thracian Greek)
Population
Arabian 0.94%
Armenian 11.37%
Basque 1.52%
East_Balkan 3.25%
East_Med 19.05%
Italian 17.72%
Near_Eastern 14.02%
North_Caucasian 17.52%
West_Caucasian 13.58%
West_Med 1.03%

Me: 23andme
Population
Arabian 1.39%
Armenian 11.02%
Basque 1.39%
Central_Euro 0.21%
East_Balkan 3.38%
East_Central_Euro 0.11%
East_Med 19.17%
Italian 16.98%
Near_Eastern 13.11%
North_Caucasian 18.33%
West_Caucasian 13.49%
West_Med 1.43%

Father (50%Pontic Greek, 50% Thracian Greek)
Population
Arabian 1.74%
Armenian 9.37%
Basque 1.52%
Central_Euro 5.80%
East_Balkan 7.09%
East_Central_Euro 3.38%
East_Med 14.45%
Italian 19.08%
Near_Eastern 10.47%
North_Atlantic 1.29%
North_Caucasian 11.73%
North_Sea 0.30%
West_Caucasian 11.04%
West_Med 2.75%

Maternal Uncle (1005 Pontic Greek)
Population
Arabian 0.65%
Armenian 15.59%
Basque 1.06%
East_Balkan 1.15%
East_Med 21.23%
French 0.86%
Italian 13.04%
Near_Eastern 15.06%
North_Caucasian 13.61%
West_Caucasian 15.98%
West_Med 1.78%

Maternal grandmother (100%Pontic Greek)
Population
Arabian 2.24%
Armenian 15.52%
East_Balkan 0.87%
East_Med 23.05%
French 0.08%
Italian 7.85%
Near_Eastern 12.83%
North_Caucasian 18.41%
West_Caucasian 16.54%
West_Med 2.60%

Asimakidis
11-11-2015, 09:19 PM
Swedish/Greek person (unrelated to me) Southern Sweden 50% (Skåne)- Greece - Kavala/Edessa (with Asia minor 25 % ancestry)
Arabian 2.60%
Armenian 3.83%
Basque 1.22%
Central_Euro 7.63%
East_Balkan 4.17%
East_Central_Euro 4.46%
East_Med 6.17%
Eastern_Euro 7.23%
Fennoscandian 9.60%
French 3.99%
Iberian 10.62%
Italian 13.60%
Near_Eastern 1.71%
North_Atlantic 2.61%
North_Caucasian 3.89%
North_Sea 9.98%
South_Central_Asian 0.82%
Volga-Ural 0.99%
West_Caucasian 3.11%
West_Med 1.77%

Anabasis
11-11-2015, 09:36 PM
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 17.46%
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.49%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 22.77%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.47%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 11.38%
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 15.56%
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 21.62%
West_Med 1.24%Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 17.46%
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.49%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 22.77%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.47%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 11.38%
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 15.56%
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 21.62%
West_Med 1.24%

XooR
11-11-2015, 09:43 PM
Me, (Laz)

West_Caucasian 21.71%
North_Caucasian 19.91%
East_Med 18.91%
Armenian 16.53%
Near_Eastern 10.06%
Italian 4.73%
East_Balkan 3.19%
Arabian 2.79%
West_Med 2.17%

My wife, (Irish, German, Scottish)

North_Sea 18.36%
Iberian 17.33%
North_Atlantic 15.25%
French 11.08%
Fennoscandian 9.27%
Eastern_Euro 7.42%
East_Central_Euro 6.37%
Central_Euro 3.81%
Italian 3.03%
East_Balkan 3.02%
North_Caucasian 2.13%
Volga-Ural 1.27%
Basque 1.10%
South_Central_Asian 0.39%
West_Caucasian 0.18%

Caspian
11-11-2015, 10:13 PM
Population
Amerindian 0.17%
Arabian 2.51%
Armenian 8.15%
Basque 0.47%
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian 1.49%
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 14.77%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.03%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 14.96%
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 17.16%
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 3.74%
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 12.08%
South_Chinese 3.77%
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 9.37%
West_Med 1.28%

Sorted:
North_Caucasian 17.16%
Near_Eastern 14.96%
East_Med 14.77%
South_Central_Asian 12.08%
Italian 10.03%
West_Caucasian 9.37%
Armenian 8.15%
South_Chinese 3.77%
Siberian 3.74%
Arabian 2.51%
East_Central_Asian 1.49%
West_Med 1.28%
Basque 0.47%
Amerindian 0.17%

paulo412
11-11-2015, 10:45 PM
Population
Amerindian 14.70%
Arabian -
Armenian 0.11%
Basque 0.24%
Central_African 1.26%
Central_Euro 3.29%
East_African 0.93%
East_Asian 0.45%
East_Balkan 2.13%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 4.28%
Eastern_Euro 1.81%
Fennoscandian 1.64%
French 3.50%
Iberian 17.85%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 7.26%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 3.30%
North_Atlantic 3.57%
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 4.88%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.41%
Omotic 0.38%
Pygmy 2.16%
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.76%
West_African 22.95%
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 2.13%

SORTED (with European side)


Iberian 17.85%
Italian 7.26%
North_Sea 4.88%
East_Med 4.28%
North_Atlantic 3.57%
French 3.50%
Central_Euro 3.29%
East_Balkan 2.13%
West_Med 2.13%
Eastern_Euro 1.81%
Fennoscandian 1.64%
Volga-Ural 0.76%
Basque 0.24%
Armenian 0.11%

Caspian
11-11-2015, 11:15 PM
Azerbaijani from the Republic of Azerbaijan. (Azerbaijani14_1m from Yunusbayev et al. 2014)

North_Caucasian 26.69%
South_Central_Asian 14.71%
East_Med 14.62%
Armenian 9.11%
West_Caucasian 8.70%
Near_Eastern 6.67%
Arabian 4.74%
Italian 4.10%
East_Balkan 3.21%
North_Sea 2.72%
Fennoscandian 2.20%
Volga-Ural 1.53%
East_Central_Euro 0.71%
Basque 0.28%

Azerbaijani from the Republic of Azerbaijan, Aghjabadi Rayon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aghjabadi_District) (Azerbaijani13_1m from Yunusbayev et al. 2014)

North_Caucasian 23.15%
Near_Eastern 16.39%
South_Central_Asian 11.79%
East_Med 10.70%
Armenian 8.86%
West_Caucasian 6.38%
Italian 6.20%
East_Balkan 4.34%
East_Asian 4.06%
Arabian 3.68%
North_Atlantic 1.64%
Volga-Ural 1.15%
East_Central_Asian 0.47%
West_Med 0.41%
Amerindian 0.37%
North_Sea 0.17%
Indo-Chinese 0.13%
Malayan 0.10%


Azerbaijani from Iğdır

East_Med 18.55%
South_Central_Asian 15.30%
Near_Eastern 15.29%
North_Caucasian 14.63%
Armenian 10.57%
West_Caucasian 8.32%
Central_Euro 4.19%
Iberian 3.14%
East_Central_Asian 2.27%
West_Med 1.95%
South_Asian 1.83%
Italian 1.82%
Siberian 1.04%
Volga-Ural 0.66%
French 0.42%


Azerbaijani from Iğdır

Near_Eastern 21.49%
South_Central_Asian 12.69%
North_Caucasian 12.53%
East_Med 10.00%
Armenian 9.16%
West_Caucasian 9.00%
Italian 4.10%
Siberian 3.82%
Central_Euro 3.80%
South_Asian 2.26%
West_Med 1.91%
Eastern_Euro 1.87%
Arabian 1.50%
East_Balkan 1.45%
Volga-Ural 1.21%
East_Asian 1.02%
North_African 0.92%
East_Central_Euro 0.43%
Iberian 0.32%
North_Sea 0.31%
Oceanian 0.19%

Azerbaijani from the Republic of Azerbaijan

North_Caucasian 21.13%
East_Med 16.09%
South_Central_Asian 15.48%
Near_Eastern 13.54%
Armenian 10.36%
West_Caucasian 6.60%
Italian 6.59%
Arabian 5.60%
Volga-Ural 2.42%
Indo-Chinese 0.98%
North_Sea 0.94%
Siberian 0.17%
South_Asian 0.10%

Azerbaijani (Terekeme) from Turkey (his ancestors were from present-day the Republic of Azerbaijan, Dağlıq Şirvan region (https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da%C4%9Fl%C4%B1q_%C5%9Eirvan_iqtisadi_rayonu))

North_Caucasian 22.27%
East_Med 15.62%
South_Central_Asian 11.76%
Near_Eastern 11.56%
Armenian 10.48%
West_Caucasian 8.65%
Italian 6.33%
East_Asian 4.22%
East_Balkan 2.24%
Arabian 2.16%
Eastern_Euro 1.26%
West_Med 0.91%
South_Chinese 0.85%
North_Sea 0.77%
Volga-Ural 0.51%
East_Central_Asian 0.39%

icebreaker
11-11-2015, 11:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/2xZOG4p.jpg

AJL
11-12-2015, 12:44 AM
In the absence of the related oracle, there's not much value to discussing the results of any calculator. Any component can be given any name: what's important is where you show up on a map (or the populations). For me the results are pretty accurate, but no better or worse than pretty much any other calculator I've seen.

Kurd
11-12-2015, 04:25 AM
Kurd_Central



Population



Amerindian
-


Arabian
2.52%


Armenian
10.47%


Basque
0.71%


Central_African
-


Central_Euro
-


East_African
-


East_Asian
-


East_Balkan
1.49%


East_Central_Asian
-


East_Central_Euro
-


East_Med
14.73%


Eastern_Euro
-


Fennoscandian
-


French
-


Iberian
0.65%


Indo-Chinese
-


Italian
2.94%


Malayan
-


Near_Eastern
20.35%


North_African
-


North_Atlantic
-


North_Caucasian
17.15%


North_Sea
-


Northeast_African
-


Oceanian
-


Omotic
-


Pygmy
-


Siberian
-


South_Asian
-


South_Central_Asian
20.96%


South_Chinese
-


Volga-Ural
-


West_African
-


West_Caucasian
8.04%


West_Med
-

paulgill
11-12-2015, 04:55 AM
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian-------------------3.77%
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro---------2.16%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic-------------5.97%
North_Caucasian---------11.89%
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian--------------31.08%
South_Central_Asian----42.63%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural----------------1.13%
West_African -
West_Caucasian----------1.37%
West_Med -

cybele
11-12-2015, 06:27 AM
Basque 4.08%
Central_Euro 8.43%
East_Balkan 0.16%
East_Central_Euro 3.89%
Eastern_Euro 8.42%
Fennoscandian 9.65%
French 7.49%
Iberian 8.01%
Italian 7.78%
Near_Eastern 2.80%
North_Atlantic 17.54%
North_Caucasian 1.58%
North_Sea 17.60%
Northeast_African 0.35%
South_Central_Asian 1.07%
Volga-Ural 0.14%
West_Caucasian 1.00%

Varun R
11-12-2015, 06:38 AM
South_Asian 51.71%
South_Central_Asian 34.42%
North_Caucasian 4.14%
North_Atlantic 1.78%
Fennoscandian 1.30%
North_Sea 1.28%
Volga-Ural 1.23%
French 1.22%
West_Caucasian 0.85%
Pygmy 0.71%
Armenian 0.59%
Malayan 0.45%
Oceanian 0.28%

Dorkymon
11-12-2015, 07:42 AM
East_Central_Euro 13.74%
Central_Euro 10.60%
Eastern_Euro 8.76%
North_Sea 8.73%
East_Balkan 8.66%
Iberian 6.71%
Italian 6.71%
Armenian 6.46%
Fennoscandian 5.19%
French 3.94%
North_Atlantic 3.68%
East_Med 2.78%
Near_Eastern 2.41%
North_Caucasian 2.34%
Basque 2.09%
East_Asian 1.91%
West_Caucasian 1.86%
West_Med 1.84%
Volga-Ural 1.58%

SwampThing27
11-12-2015, 03:07 PM
I realized that I had never posted here. Here are mine. I found it interesting that this calculator assigns me the lowest S. Asian component of any calculator 5.28%). I usually get 10 - 15% S. Asian. It appears that this one has high thresholds on its components. S. Asian appears to reference deep S. India.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah42/dil88888/Eurogenis%20K36%20Admix-1_zpsldfbnjtg.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/dil88888/media/Eurogenis%20K36%20Admix-1_zpsldfbnjtg.jpg.html)

I only skimmed through, but I believe I'm the only European in this thread with a South Asian score.

Kurd
11-12-2015, 08:22 PM
I only skimmed through, but I believe I'm the only European in this thread with a South Asian score.

An indication of real S Indian ancestry. As k increases, clusters become less overlapping and better defined. Any portions of SC Asian signals that incorporate into S Asian at lower K are flushed out into their own respective SC Asian signals at higher K, leaving behind a signal that is a better representation of actual S Indian ancestry

randwulf
11-12-2015, 10:55 PM
An indication of real S Indian ancestry. As k increases, clusters become less overlapping and better defined. Any portions of SC Asian signals that incorporate into S Asian at lower K are flushed out into their own respective SC Asian signals at higher K, leaving behind a signal that is a better representation of actual S Indian ancestry

Interesting. My mom usually is 1-2 percent South Asian at lower K but showed none on the total score at K36. She did show some on individual chromosome scores at K36. So, I found a segment that was well defined in the painting as South Asian at K13 and looked at that segment at K36. It was still painted recognizably, but had split into South Asian, South Central Asian, and Volga-Ural.

BalkanKiwi
11-13-2015, 05:32 AM
23andMe

Basque 1.63%
Central_Euro 9.42%
East_Balkan 6.20%
East_Central_Euro 4.94%
East_Med 1.65%
Eastern_Euro 6.55%
Fennoscandian 5.93%
French 3.49%
Iberian 15.34%
Italian 7.94%
North_Atlantic 12.61%
North_Caucasian 3.87%
North_Sea 18.20%
Oceanian 0.25%
Volga-Ural 0.38%
West_Med 1.58%

FTDNA

Basque 1.66%
Central_Euro 10.02%
East_Balkan 5.95%
East_Central_Euro 4.54%
East_Med 2.13%
Eastern_Euro 6.86%
Fennoscandian 4.98%
French 4.06%
Iberian 14.54%
Italian 8.79%
North_Atlantic 12.71%
North_Caucasian 3.56%
North_Sea 18.56%
Oceanian 0.15%
Volga-Ural 0.39%
West_Med 1.10%

Bramoan
12-03-2015, 08:21 PM
Just curious, what was the reference population for East Central Asia? Came up as 0% overall but showed signs on the chromosomes chart

Macura
12-03-2015, 09:02 PM
I only skimmed through, but I believe I'm the only European in this thread with a South Asian score.

Among 44 Serbians, only 1 have South Asian score - 0,94%.

randwulf
12-03-2015, 10:43 PM
Just curious, what was the reference population for East Central Asia? Came up as 0% overall but showed signs on the chromosomes chart

The reference population names are listed here:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/edit

It looks like East Central Asian file names begin with "Daur", "Hezhen", "Mongola", "Oroqen", and "Tu". Hopefully, the file names refer to the relevant populations.

Star93
12-04-2015, 09:11 AM
Armenian 5.88%
Basque 1.58%
Central_Euro 5.12%
East_Balkan 11.79%
East_Central_Euro 2.25%
East_Med 13.86%
Eastern_Euro 3.82%
French 1.51%
Iberian 12.99%
Italian 23.02%
Near_Eastern 4.50%
North_Atlantic 1.12%
North_Caucasian 0.14%
North_Sea 4.04%
Volga-Ural 0.18%
West_Caucasian 2.53%
West_Med 5.63%

MatAust21
12-04-2015, 06:24 PM
Population
Arabian 0.47%
Basque 1.16%
Central_Euro 11.59%
East_Balkan 5.96%
East_Central_Euro 7.98%
Eastern_Euro 3.01%
Fennoscandian 8.08%
French 2.79%
Iberian 13.11%
Italian 20.35%
Near_Eastern 1.68%
North_Atlantic 5.22%
North_Caucasian 2.81%
North_Sea 8.81%
West_Caucasian 3.52%
West_Med 3.43%

Bramoan
12-17-2015, 07:57 PM
The reference population names are listed here:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/edit

It looks like East Central Asian file names begin with "Daur", "Hezhen", "Mongola", "Oroqen", and "Tu". Hopefully, the file names refer to the relevant populations.

Thank you sir, there's that "Tu" group again, frequently popping up on my Oracle results. Must read up on them

kujira692
12-18-2015, 08:49 PM
Here are my father's, (who is an Irish&British/German/French/Unknown mix):

North_Sea 19.63%
North_Atlantic 14.13%
Iberian 13.94%
Italian 10.67%
Fennoscandian 10.46%
Central_Euro 6.51%
East_Balkan 5.94%
French 5.48%
Eastern_Euro 3.73%
East_Central_Euro 2.85%
West_Med 1.91%
West_Caucasian 1.69%
North_Caucasian 1.36%
South_Asian 0.99%
South_Central_Asian 0.67%

J.E.Thompson
12-25-2015, 11:48 AM
Population
North_Sea 19.12%
Italian 18.64%
North_Atlantic 16.21%
Central_Euro 6.72%
Iberian 6.51%
North_Caucasian 6.34%
Fennoscandian 6.23%
East_Central_Euro 6.06%
French 5.88%
Basque 3.48%
Volga-Ural 1.74%
Eastern_Euro 1.66%
East_Balkan 0.77%
West_Med 0.59%

Passa
12-25-2015, 11:59 AM
Arabian 2.13%
Armenian 3.75%
Central_Euro 3.81%
East_Balkan 3.25%
East_Central_Euro 2.96%
East_Med 13.79%
Fennoscandian 3.20%
French 3.44%
Iberian 15.64%
Italian 21.73%
Near_Eastern 10.31%
North_African 1.88%
North_Sea 2.45%
West_Caucasian 4.16%
West_Med 7.48%

psaglav
12-25-2015, 01:41 PM
Arabian 0.43%
Armenian 7.53%
Central_Euro 4.84%
East_Balkan 5.84%
East_Central_Euro 8.12%
East_Med 7.50%
Eastern_Euro 5.93%
Fennoscandian 1.95%
French 1.76%
Iberian 2.86%
Italian 11.39%
Near_Eastern 8.84%
North_Atlantic 3.39%
North_Caucasian 14.48%
North_Sea 2.40%
Siberian 1.91%
South_Central_Asian 2.39%
Volga-Ural 3.33%
West_Caucasian 2.89%
West_Med 2.22%

I have deleted the 0 values. Interesting that I don't get any East Asian here (or East Central Asian) whereas on ftdna's myOrigins I have about 3% of it (East Asia.) Also interesting that Armenian and North Caucasian samples are separate (which is correct, of course, as Armenia is South Caucasus) but usually Caucasus is dumped into one in most other calculators and I don't remember seeing a separate Armenian field. I have both North Caucasus (Ubykh from Sochi) and Armenian ancestry from my father's side (and it adds up to about 50% for him give or take). Italian is interesting in that pretty much everyone gets a higher score than they expect, no?

K_Searle
12-25-2015, 06:36 PM
What does all this mean? Does this mean I match the population of the DNA of these places? and also where can I find a list of Descriptions of say for instance where North Atlantic is? I mean I know Iberian penninsula is Spain /Portugal..but other places I am not familiar with..I am new to all this..


Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions


Basque 1.62%
Central_Euro 7.25%
East_Central_Euro 6.99%
Eastern_Euro 4.73%
Fennoscandian 7.62%
French 9.51%
Iberian 16.34%
Italian 9.34%
North_Atlantic 14.90%
North_Caucasian 2.39%
North_Sea 14.93%
Oceanian 0.33%
Volga-Ural 0.47%
West_Caucasian 1.21%
West_Med 2.38%

kingjohn
01-01-2016, 11:51 PM
hi everyone ,
neolithic farmer antolian k36 results
i think it very intresting
notice the high western med 30% {which is based on sardinian refrence}
another thing is the total middle eastern component is 29% high{ 3.42% arabian, 21% eastern med, 5% near eastern }
Kit Number: M897077 Elapsed Time: 48.75 seconds


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 3.42%
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 21.37%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 7.12%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 32.35%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.48%
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 30.28%





122996 SNPs used in this evaluatio

randwulf
01-02-2016, 01:48 AM
What does all this mean? Does this mean I match the population of the DNA of these places? and also where can I find a list of Descriptions of say for instance where North Atlantic is? I mean I know Iberian penninsula is Spain /Portugal..but other places I am not familiar with..I am new to all this..


Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions


Basque 1.62%
Central_Euro 7.25%
East_Central_Euro 6.99%
Eastern_Euro 4.73%
Fennoscandian 7.62%
French 9.51%
Iberian 16.34%
Italian 9.34%
North_Atlantic 14.90%
North_Caucasian 2.39%
North_Sea 14.93%
Oceanian 0.33%
Volga-Ural 0.47%
West_Caucasian 1.21%
West_Med 2.38%

I recommend reading the post at the following link to answer your questions. This calculator has a little different purpose/focus than most:

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://bga101.blogspot.com/2013/03/eurogenes-k36-at-gedmatch.html%3Fm%3D1&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjzl6GzgIrKAhULkx4KHUDBAtYQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNEBezMn1bxYn-RtK6OYss7UdgH43g

william0509
01-08-2016, 05:12 PM
My K36 results:

This utility uses the Eurogenes K36 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Eurogenes Genetic Ancestry Project blog.

Kit Number: F415350 Elapsed Time: 38.24 seconds

Population
Amerindian 0.11%
Arabian-
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian 33.42%
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian 6.14%
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese 14.68%
Italian -
Malayan 0.78%
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese 44.86%
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

anglesqueville
01-14-2016, 02:23 PM
I would suggest that everyone who is interested by eurogenes k36 give a try to the new oracle tool written by Huijbregts: "nMonte.r". Look on the threads:
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6220-4-Generation-Oracle
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6156-An-alternative-for-4Mix

psaglav
01-14-2016, 05:18 PM
I would suggest that everyone who is interested by eurogenes k36 give a try to the new oracle tool written by Huijbregts: "nMonte.r". Look on the threads:
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6220-4-Generation-Oracle
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6156-An-alternative-for-4Mix

You mean try the k36 populations with nMonte? That'd be interesting.

anglesqueville
01-14-2016, 10:06 PM
You mean try the k36 populations with nMonte? That'd be interesting.

I can provide a spreadsheet (don't recall where I found it). I don't know if it is very reliable. Results for my mother and me are not inspiring, but ... reasonable. K36 was not made for oracles, according to David himself, but that's a good little experiment. I'll put the spreadsheet in my dropox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zevf5vvbfg3o9ud/K36Monte.csv?dl=0

khanabadoshi
01-14-2016, 11:47 PM
I can provide a spreadsheet (don't recall where I found it). I don't know if it is very reliable. Results for my mother and me are not inspiring, but ... reasonable. K36 was not made for oracles, according to David himself, but that's a good little experiment. I'll put the spreadsheet in my dropox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zevf5vvbfg3o9ud/K36Monte.csv?dl=0

I will try this shortly.

Lirio100
01-15-2016, 12:56 AM
This is from FTDNA data


Central_Euro 13.75%
East_Balkan 3.01%
East_Central_Euro 5.90%
East_Med 1.16%
Eastern_Euro 5.10%
Fennoscandian 10.57%
French 6.58%
Iberian 9.87%
Italian 10.75%
Near_Eastern 0.60%
North_Atlantic 11.86%
North_Caucasian 1.94%
North_Sea 17.25%

lemon
01-15-2016, 01:16 AM
Italian 18.31%
East_Central_Euro 18.20%
Eastern_Euro 13.36%
North_Sea 9.15%
East_Balkan 8.05%
Iberian 6.33%
East_Med 5.16%
North_Caucasian 4.34%
North_Atlantic 3.58%
Fennoscandian 3.53%
Armenian 3.45%
Central_Euro 2.95%
West_Med 1.99%
Near_Eastern 1.42%
French 0.16%

it explains why I'm craving pizza right now

laulei
01-15-2016, 06:50 PM
Amerindian 0.45%
Basque 2.46%
Central_Euro 9.69%
East_Balkan 2.50%
East_Central_Euro 5.50%
East_Med 1.69%
Eastern_Euro 4.27%
Fennoscandian 8.43%
French 8.33%
Iberian 16.41%
Italian 7.72%
North_Atlantic 13.91%
North_Sea 17.82%
West_Caucasian 0.77%

Dinaek
01-17-2016, 04:27 PM
My Results
Basque 0.33%
Central_Euro 8.07%
East_Balkan 6.13%
East_Central_Euro 8.92%
East_Med 0.78%
Eastern_Euro 6.09%
Fennoscandian 8.35%
French 7.88%
Iberian 12.58%
Italian 7.39%
North_African 0.30%
North_Atlantic 11.89%
North_Caucasian 0.16%
North_Sea 19.45%
West_Caucasian 1.18%
West_Med 0.50%

My Mother's Results
Basque 1.56%
Central_Euro 7.33%
East_Balkan 3.04%
East_Central_Euro 10.70%
Eastern_Euro 0.51%
Fennoscandian 9.54%
French 8.60%
Iberian 12.80%
Italian 3.23%
North_Atlantic 17.40%
North_Caucasian 3.02%
North_Sea 20.87%
Omotic 0.29%
West_Caucasian 0.61%
West_Med 0.47%

Invisible Sun
02-03-2016, 12:22 PM
Population
Arabian 4.05
Armenian 2.63
Basque 0.91
Central_Euro 0.08
East_Balkan 3.62
East_Med 14.32
Fennoscandian 1.91
French 5.17
Iberian 10.47
Italian 19.16
Near_Eastern 7.18
North_African 3.56
North_Atlantic 2.39
North_Caucasian 0.18
North_Sea 7.31
West_African 0.27
West_Caucasian 7.39
West_Med 9.38

Torc Seanathair
02-03-2016, 06:33 PM
I think this one skipped by me, so I'll join the revival.

Colonial American< Scots-Irish + Irish



Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.60%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.53%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.64%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 6.78%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 0.79%
Fennoscandian 9.74%
French 8.40%
Iberian 10.30%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.29%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 14.56%
North_Caucasian 1.20%
North_Sea 19.39%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.79%
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 2.00%

Blitz
02-06-2016, 12:59 AM
MYSELF

Arabian - 1.8
Basque 9.69
Central_Euro 3.79
East_Central_Euro 4.04
Eastern_Euro 5.50
Fennoscandian 6.08
French 5.73
Iberian 15.52
Italian 6.54
Near_Eastern - 4.26
North_African - 1.08
North_Atlantic 13.10
North_Caucasian 2.25
North_Sea 14.31
Volga-Ural - 2.40
West_Caucasian – 2.67
West_Med 1.24



MY BROTHER

Population
Arabian - 1.22
Basque 8.63
Central_Euro 5.00
East_Central_Euro 4.59
East_Med 0.33
Eastern_Euro 3.91
Fennoscandian 5.09
French 5.54
Iberian 16.67
Italian 8.22
Near_Eastern - 2.02
North_African - 1.50
North_Atlantic 14.25
North_Caucasian 2.07
North_Sea 14.39
Volga-Ural 2.29
West_Caucasian 2.82
West_Med 1.46



Actually, knowing my apparently lineage, there's no real surprises in that. Some of the sample populations - I mean Fennoscandian, always thought that the Finns had some DNA similarities but also differences from the general Scandinavian area. Anyone know if they used Sami people, which would cover the actual Fennoscandian region, or just people whom were southern and thus self identified as "Finn". And does anyone know if some of the more remote populations are actually from that area or merely self identified - I mean, I could claim I am a Martian doesn't mean I am.

nee4speed111
02-29-2016, 10:34 AM
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 14.49%
Armenian 3.67%
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.10%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 24.21%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 8.48%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 28.69%
North_African 6.79%
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African 11.59%
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.97%

Afshar
02-29-2016, 11:19 AM
Punjabi
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.26
Central_African -
Central_Euro 0.90
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.31
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.54
French 0.17
Iberian 2.01
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 0.22
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 4.32
North_Sea 6.64
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy 1.15
Siberian -
South_Asian 48.12
South_Central_Asian 24.38
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.91
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.37
West_Med 2.69

Afshar
02-29-2016, 11:31 AM
Thought I already shared but did not so a few more passengers for the nMonte train.

Me
Population
Amerindian 0.74
Arabian 0.59
Armenian 5.89
Basque 0.48
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.93
East_Central_Asian 2.17
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 17.78
Eastern_Euro 0.06
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 3.91
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 4.16
Malayan 0.93
Near_Eastern 16.12
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 20.43
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 2.03
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 8.93
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.57
West_African -
West_Caucasian 10.06
West_Med 1.15

Dad
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.27
Armenian 10.31
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian 0.07
East_Balkan 3.33
East_Central_Asian 2.96
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 16.62
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 1.22
Iberian 4.69
Indo-Chinese 0.67
Italian 5.39
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 17.17
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 15.80
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 2.16
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 11.57
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 7.78
West_Med -

Population
Amerindian 0.11
Arabian 3.57
Armenian 9.19
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian 1.31
East_Central_Euro 0.42
East_Med 13.03
Eastern_Euro 1.08
Fennoscandian -
French 2.00
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.57
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 13.92
North_African -
North_Atlantic 0.59
North_Caucasian 12.54
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.60
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 5.66
South_Asian 1.27
South_Central_Asian 7.20
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 10.77
West_Med 1.12

Again with higher South Central Asian than "Turkish Average" it seems, didn't see a spreadsheet though so maybe its within avg.

Amerijoe
02-29-2016, 07:58 PM
My first appearance Paisley, Scotland

Population
Basque 3.48%
Central_Euro 5.66%
East_Balkan 4.70
East_Central_Euro 3.19%
Eastern_Euro 4.75%
Fennoscandian 7.92%
French 4.43%
Iberian 13.10%
Italian 8.70%
North_Atlantic 20.13%
North_Caucasian 0.44%
North_Sea 20.88%
South_Central_Asian 1.86%
Volga-Ural 0.77%

rod
03-01-2016, 12:50 AM
Looks reasonable.

Population
North_Sea 19.77
North_Atlantic 16.69
Iberian 12.33
Central_Euro 12.31
Italian 8.98
French 8.25
East_Central_Euro 5.66
Basque 4.54
Fennoscandian 4.35
Eastern_Euro 3.99
East_Balkan 3.06
West_Med 0.05

The_Lyonnist
03-24-2016, 09:25 PM
Iberian 23.15
Italian 19.29
North_Sea 11.15
North_Atlantic 6.12
Central_Euro 5.99
French 5.86
West_Med 4.97
North_Caucasian 4.90
Fennoscandian 5.02
East_Central_Euro 4.87
Eastern_Euro 4.59
Basque 2.02
Volga-Ural 0.97
East_Balkan 0.55
Armenian 0.29
East_Med 0.17
Amerindian 0.10

BalkanKiwi
03-24-2016, 11:44 PM
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3642-Post-and-discuss-your-Eurogenes-k36-results

DMXX
03-24-2016, 11:50 PM
^ The_Lyonnist's separate thread merged into this one (thanks for flagging it, BalkanKiwi!).

Steppeson
03-26-2016, 03:31 AM
Would this calculator be ancient admixtures or more recent?

dnoone
03-28-2016, 12:41 PM
Alleged to be Irish-Italian

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.40
Armenian 3.68
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.99
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.97
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.27
East_Med 13.20
Eastern_Euro 1.38
Fennoscandian -
French 4.27
Iberian 10.21
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.32
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 6.85
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.93
North_Caucasian 12.47
North_Sea 6.59
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.62
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 5.29
West_Med 2.56

A Norfolk L-M20
03-28-2016, 03:28 PM
I'm Eastern English, with a mainly Norfolk ancestry on paper.


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.86
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.49
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.00
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.91
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 0.13
Fennoscandian 7.29
French 9.87
Iberian 10.89
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.81
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 14.59
North_Caucasian 0.22
North_Sea 21.20
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.34
West_Med 2.39

Bramoan
04-03-2016, 01:43 AM
Oceania - 18.93%
Malayan - 41.33%
South Chinese - 17.58%
Indo Chinese - 12.36%
East Asian - 6.06%
East Central European - 0.89%
Central East Asian - 0.78%
Amerindian - 0.79%
Siberian - 0.28%

wombatofthenorth
04-06-2016, 06:26 AM
Me:
Central_Euro 9.50
East_Balkan 6.53
East_Central_Euro 30.10
Eastern_Euro 16.66
Fennoscandian 17.90
French 1.56
Iberian 1.53
North_Atlantic 5.67
North_Sea 9.80
Volga-Ural 0.75

Mom:
Central_Euro 8.44
East_Balkan 4.82
East_Central_Euro 29.75
Eastern_Euro 17.17
Fennoscandian 20.48
French 4.90
North_Atlantic 5.88
North_Sea 8.35
Volga-Ural 0.20

Dad:
Basque 2.42
Central_Euro 6.70
East_Balkan 7.11
East_Central_Euro 30.11
Eastern_Euro 15.39
Fennoscandian 21.81
French 1.64
North_Atlantic 3.97
North_Caucasian 0.44
North_Sea 10.41

wombatofthenorth
04-06-2016, 06:38 AM
EDIT: phased doesn't work how I thought on GEDMATCH so it's no good at all for this stuff in the way I thought.

I'm not sure whether using the phased data is better for this or not. I'd think better (although for Oracles I believe it's worse).

It seem the Central_Euro, East_Balkan, East_Central_Euro, Eastern_Euro, Fennoscandian, North_Sea, French, Volga_Ural are pretty similar comparing my mom and dad so maybe those form the Baltic (and parts of the German/Polish) components on this test?

Then the differences are my dad gets Basque and Iberian and much less North_Atlantic and a trace of West_Med while my mom gets Italian and the more North_Atlantic.
Not quite sure what to make of that. Maybe the North_Atlantic is part of her German component along with some shared German bits that I had called the Baltic components above. Maybe the Italian is why she gets the mysterious 0.6% Southern European on 23? Not sure what the Basque and Iberian means for my dad. The only odd thing he gets on 23 is some Balkan and a trace of mysterious Britsh&Irish.

Tolan
04-10-2016, 03:48 AM
I created a page allowing to locate you on a map from your K36 results, but only for Europeans.

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm

Eurogenes K36 looks the best calculator to do this.
It is based on modern populations and has the advantage of having many components.
Most of old non-European components (like Caucasian, West-Asian, Gedrosian ect..), whose distribution in the European population is multi-factorial, are replaced by European components, geographically located.

Amerijoe
04-10-2016, 01:40 PM
Tolan, your K36 location calculator placed me 467km/290mi. southwest of where I was born. Honestly, I did on a whim, thinking I'll end up in the North Channel. Hat off to you sir.

gruder
04-10-2016, 04:24 PM
I created a page allowing to locate you on a map from your K36 results, but only for Europeans.

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm

Eurogenes K36 looks the best calculator to do this.
It is based on modern populations and has the advantage of having many components.
Most of old non-European components (like Caucasian, West-Asian, Gedrosian ect..), whose distribution in the European population is multi-factorial, are replaced by European components, geographically located.

Does this also work for Americans with mixed European ancestry?

Tolan
04-10-2016, 06:16 PM
Does this also work for Americans with mixed European ancestry?

This should give you an average place of yours europeans ancestors.
It still has a margin of error. It must be taken as approximate

psaglav
04-10-2016, 07:26 PM
This should give you an average place of yours europeans ancestors.
It still has a margin of error. It must be taken as approximate

It works pretty good for me, it gives me a mid-point between my mainly Balkan+Caucasus ancestry -right in the middle of the Black Sea (I don't mean it sarcastically.)

Dante
04-10-2016, 08:13 PM
Self
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.09
East_African -
East_Asian 3.79
East_Balkan 3.67
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.04
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.50
Fennoscandian 10.08
French 14.33
Iberian 11.52
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 7.94
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 12.10
North_Caucasian 3.25
North_Sea 13.57
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 3.48
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.40
West_Med 2.24

Cousin

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.51
East_African -
East_Asian 32.59
East_Balkan 3.67
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.04
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.30
Fennoscandian 5.28
French 13.27
Iberian 7.01
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 4.31
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.40
North_Caucasian 2.25
North_Sea 6.57
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 4.32
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.25
West_Med 3.23


Does anyone know the exact populations used for Fennoscandian. I've read Finnish but don't Finns have different DNA than other Scandinavians? Or so that is what research claims. And Fennoscandia covers the entire northern region as well as the Kola and Karelia populations.


Ps. Tolan's map is pretty good. Put me right in the middle of the regions that my grandparents were from seeing as parents are North American.

gruder
04-10-2016, 09:00 PM
It landed me in the Adriatic Sea, and I'm mostly NW European. It may be due to the South Central Asian (1.34%) or the Amerindian (1.05%), might be skewing it off :P .

Tolan
04-11-2016, 11:11 AM
It landed me in the Adriatic Sea, and I'm mostly NW European. It may be due to the South Central Asian (1.34%) or the Amerindian (1.05%), might be skewing it off :P .

What are yours K36 results?

Shaikorth
04-11-2016, 11:21 AM
Self
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.09
East_African -
East_Asian 3.79
East_Balkan 3.67
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.04
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.50
Fennoscandian 10.08
French 14.33
Iberian 11.52
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 7.94
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 12.10
North_Caucasian 3.25
North_Sea 13.57
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 3.48
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.40
West_Med 2.24

Cousin

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.51
East_African -
East_Asian 32.59
East_Balkan 3.67
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.04
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.30
Fennoscandian 5.28
French 13.27
Iberian 7.01
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 4.31
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.40
North_Caucasian 2.25
North_Sea 6.57
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 4.32
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.25
West_Med 3.23


Does anyone know the exact populations used for Fennoscandian. I've read Finnish but don't Finns have different DNA than other Scandinavians? Or so that is what research claims. And Fennoscandia covers the entire northern region as well as the Kola and Karelia populations.


Ps. Tolan's map is pretty good. Put me right in the middle of the regions that my grandparents were from seeing as parents are North American.

All populations used for K36 components are here:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/edit?pref=2&pli=1

gruder
04-11-2016, 05:24 PM
Here is mine.

Population
Amerindian 1.05%
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.81%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.52%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.64%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 0.08%
Fennoscandian 13.29%
French 5.04%
Iberian 13.78%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.92%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 17.64%
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 16.75%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.34%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.81%
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.28%
West_Med -

@Tolan

gruder
04-11-2016, 06:00 PM
I just did them again and I must have entered the wrong numbers. Landed me near London England and that seems about right. Sorry! lol

Tolan
04-11-2016, 06:28 PM
I just did them again and I must have entered the wrong numbers. Landed me near London England and that seems about right. Sorry! lol

Thanks, I found strange this difference!

ffoucart
04-11-2016, 10:40 PM
Me

Basque: 1.90
Central-Euro: 2.03
East-Balkan: 1.74
East-Central-Euro: 6.09
East-Med: 1.92
Eastern-Euro: 2.62
Fennoscandian: 7.96
French: 7.78
Iberian: 23.78
Italian: 13.23
Near-Eastern: 0.44
North-Atlantic: 10.61
North-Caucasian: 3.64
North-Sea: 14.97
West-Med: 1.28

Near Evreux. Funny.

Father

Basque 3.82
Central_Euro 4.26
East_Central_Euro 9.99
Eastern_Euro 3.72
Fennoscandian 4.67
French 6.29
Iberian 15.79
Italian 14.76
North_Atlantic 13.10
North_Caucasian 8.08
North_Sea 15.46

Splash! Just between Southend on Sea (England) and Middelburg (Netherlands), and North of Dunkerque. Not bad!

dnoone
04-11-2016, 11:25 PM
Amerindian -
Arabian 5.11
Armenian 4.96
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.85
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.26
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 10.36
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 2.28
Iberian 11.45
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.24
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 16.22
North_African 3.17
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 7.05
West_Med 7.01

This is from a Sicilian.

Latitude:
29.708288778

Longitude:
25.85316476400001

The result. In Egypt .

Tolan
04-12-2016, 04:05 AM
Amerindian -
Arabian 5.11
Armenian 4.96
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.85
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.26
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 10.36
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 2.28
Iberian 11.45
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.24
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 16.22
North_African 3.17
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 7.05
West_Med 7.01

This is from a Sicilian.

Latitude:
29.708288778

Longitude:
25.85316476400001

The result. In Egypt .

The Italians are a real problem for this kind of exercise.
They are always very south of their true position.
I had previously no reference Sicilian, I'll see if I can change something.

jortita
04-13-2016, 11:12 PM
My results:

45.44% South_Asian
21.82% South_Central_Asian
7.72% Malayan
5.42% North_Caucasian
3.72% East_Asian
3.61% East_Central_Asian
2.72% Siberian
2.20% Central_Euro
1.99% Indo-Chinese
1.16% Volga-Ural
0.70% French
0.69% Fennoscandian
0.60% Eastern_Euro
0.41% South_Chinese
0.26% North_African
0.16% North_Atlantic
0.09% Armenian
0.05% Iberian
0.01% West_Caucasian

Sapporo
04-14-2016, 02:14 AM
South_Central_Asian 44.43%
South_Asian 30.26%
North_Caucasian 12.74%
Eastern_Euro 4.11%
North_Sea 2.51%
East_Central_Euro 1.97%
Fennoscandian 1.07%
Armenian 0.97%
Volga-Ural 0.92%
East_Balkan 0.50%
Amerindian 0.38%
West_Caucasian 0.13%

nee4speed111
04-14-2016, 03:19 AM
My results

28.69% Near_Eastern
24.21% East_Med
14.49% Arabian
11.59% Northeast_African
8.48% Italian
6.79% North_African
3.67% Armenian
1.97% West_Med

jortita
05-01-2016, 09:14 AM
I was wondering if anybody had a population average file that includes South and East Asian populations, thank you

AntonK
05-01-2016, 04:59 PM
My K36 results:

North_Sea: 15.90
Iberian: 14.08
North_Atlantic: 13.22
French: 12.82
Italian: 12.17
Central_Euro: 8.34
Fennoscandian: 6.09
East_Central_Euro: 5.06
Eastern_Euro: 3.37
Basque: 2.96
West_Med: 2.48
Armenian: 2.31
Volga_Ural: 0.79
South_Central_Asian: 0.42

:)

Sikeliot
05-01-2016, 05:18 PM
Amerindian -
Arabian 5.11
Armenian 4.96
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.85
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.26
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 10.36
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 2.28
Iberian 11.45
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.24
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 16.22
North_African 3.17
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 7.05
West_Med 7.01

This is from a Sicilian.

Latitude:
29.708288778

Longitude:
25.85316476400001

The result. In Egypt .


Where in Sicily is this person from?

dnoone
05-01-2016, 06:09 PM
All four grandparents from Messina.

Sikeliot
05-01-2016, 06:35 PM
All four grandparents from Messina.

Here are two more from Messina, and the third is from Trapani.

Population
Arabian 4.75
Armenian 4.67
Basque 0.52
Central_Euro 0.29
East_Balkan 6.92
East_Central_Euro 1.71
East_Med 18.33
French 1.11
Iberian 7.80
Italian 20.28
Near_Eastern 18.50
North_African 2.56
North_Atlantic 0.29
North_Caucasian 0.48
North_Sea 1.01
West_Caucasian 4.75
West_Med 6.04


Population
Armenian 6.38
Basque 1.98
Central_Euro 1.06
East_Balkan 4.37
East_Med 16.76
Iberian 13.17
Italian 15.85
Near_Eastern 21.06
North_African 3.91
North_Atlantic 2.47
North_Caucasian 1.25
Northeast_African 0.29
West_Caucasian 6.43
West_Med 5.00


Population
Arabian 5.85
Armenian 5.36
Basque 2.54
East_Balkan 3.66
East_Central_Euro 3.86
East_Med 17.91
French 3.14
Iberian 17.94
Italian 22.35
Near_Eastern 7.65
North_African 3.68
North_Atlantic 2.32
West_Caucasian 1.52
West_Med 2.21

Shaikorth
05-02-2016, 01:18 PM
By the way, the North African of K36 is Moroccans/Mozabites, I'm not sure if that's as relevant for Sicily as Arabic-speaking Algerians/Tunisians/Libyans would be.

Sikeliot
05-02-2016, 02:23 PM
By the way, the North African of K36 is Moroccans/Mozabites, I'm not sure if that's as relevant for Sicily as Arabic-speaking Algerians/Tunisians/Libyans would be.

Most likely not. Notice the Sicilian results can have quite high "Near Eastern" and much of it may be going into that cluster instead.

kikkk
08-05-2016, 03:27 PM
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 3.32
Armenian -
Basque 3.04
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.12
East_African 1.23
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.85
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.04
East_Med 6.78
Eastern_Euro 1.23
Fennoscandian 5.62
French 2.12
Iberian 11.85
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.25
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.94
North_African 9.64
North_Atlantic 8.52
North_Caucasian 0.36
North_Sea 12.37
Northeast_African 6.52
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 1.17
West_Caucasian 1.52
West_Med 1.50

galon07
08-05-2016, 05:20 PM
Amerindian 10.92
Arabian 0.39
Basque 2.70
Central_Euro 1.56
East_Balkan 4.03
East_Central_Euro 1.46
East_Med 2.39
Fennoscandian 5.59
French 5.46
Iberian 16.86
Italian 12.26
Malayan 0.87
Near_Eastern 4.13
North_African 5.25
North_Atlantic 2.27
North_Caucasian 1.17
North_Sea 6.94
Omotic 1.33
Pygmy 0.95
Siberian 0.59
West_African 8.02
West_Med 4.10

Aldric
08-05-2016, 05:52 PM
North_Atlantic 20.12
North_Sea 15.09
Iberian 14.22
Central_Euro 11.02
French 9.64
Italian 8.60
Fennoscandian 7.31
East_Central_Euro 5.07
Basque 4.49
North_Caucasian 1.81
East_Balkan 1.61
West_Med 0.73
Amerindian 0.20
South_Central_Asian 0.10

Zoran
08-05-2016, 05:59 PM
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 4.83
Armenian 10.32
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.30
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.29
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 15.36
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 0.19
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 3.35
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 17.08
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 15.21
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 20.10
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 10.04
West_Med 1.93

Bes
08-16-2016, 01:29 AM
Fennoscandian 22.93
Eastern_Euro 20.09
East_Central_Euro 16.23
North_Sea 9.26
Volga-Ural 5.44
East_Balkan 4.35
Siberian 4.09
Central_Euro 3.49
French 2.98
West_Caucasian 2.71
Basque 2.23
North_Atlantic 1.49
North_Caucasian 1.36
Iberian 1.13
South_Central_Asian 1.10
Indo-Chinese 0.18

Gaku
08-16-2016, 02:19 AM
Everyone's results are interesting.

cvolt
08-16-2016, 01:41 PM
Mine

Basque 1.77
Central_Euro 8.05
East_Central_Euro 5.00
Eastern_Euro 5.79
Fennoscandian 11.96
French 6.91
Iberian 19.22
Italian 2.68
North_African 0.41
North_Atlantic 17.38
North_Sea 19.30
South_Central_Asian 0.52
West_Med 1.01

Gaku
08-21-2016, 12:06 PM
Errr...

Dad
Basque 4.82
Iberian 83.38
North Sea 11.80

Sister
Amerindian 4.16
Basque 21.73
East_Central_Asian 8.87
Indo-Chinese 21.70
Italian 9.97
North_Atlantic 31.15
Siberian 2.43

Mom
East_Central_Euro 0.41
Eastern_Euro 0.65
East_Asian 27.10
East_Central_Asian 2.34
North_Atlantic 0.93
North_Sea 59.54
Siberian 3.47
Volga-Ural 5.55

Self
Basque 14.37
East_Asian 6.4
Eastern_Euro 3.41
Fennoscandian 5.59
French 10.54
Iberian 6.67
Italian 16.33
North_Atlantic 15.25
North_Sea 19.99
West_Med 1.45

Mofrad
08-21-2016, 12:14 PM
Arabian 1.54
Armenian 1.89
Basque 3.15
Central_Euro 1.92
East_Balkan 2.18
East_Central_Euro 4.87
East_Med 13.81
Eastern_Euro 4.22
Fennoscandian 2.31
French 5.97
Iberian 5.96
Italian 13.63
Near_Eastern 8.60
North_African 1.73
North_Atlantic 3.04
North_Caucasian 10.55
North_Sea 5.55
South_Central_Asian 0.53
Volga-Ural 1.21
West_Caucasian 3.05
West_Med 4.30

My Father: (who is half Iran/Caucasus and half Europe in ancestry)

Armenian 5.29
Central_Euro 3.35
East_Central_Euro 4.86
East_Med 16.65
Eastern_Euro 5.81
Fennoscandian 0.34
French 3.51
Iberian 2.15
Italian 14.66
Near_Eastern 10.95
North_Atlantic 3.16
North_Caucasian 12.81
North_Sea 0.63-
Siberian 0.88
South_Central_Asian 9.21
Volga-Ural 0.28
West_Caucasian 5.40

Amerijoe
08-21-2016, 01:39 PM
Me

Population
Basque 3.88
Central_Euro 5.43
East_Balkan 4.63
East_Central_Euro 1.74
Eastern_Euro 4.66
Fennoscandian 7.75
French 4.96
Iberian 12.85
Italian 7.97
North_Atlantic 20.33
North_Caucasian 1.04
North_Sea 21.48
South_Central_Asian 2.19
Volga-Ural 1.08

My mAunt

Population
Amerindian 0.51
Basque 2.14
Central_Euro 8.54
East_Balkan 1.55
East_Central_Euro 5.59
Eastern_Euro 3.63
Fennoscandian 5.57
French 4.21
Iberian 11.97
Italian 4.64
North_Atlantic 26.50
North_Caucasian 4.60
North_Sea 19.30
Volga-Ural 1.27

Both of us born Scotland, GB

AnnieD
08-21-2016, 07:24 PM
I created a page allowing to locate you on a map from your K36 results, but only for Europeans.

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm

For kicks, I tried Tolan's Locator tool per post #117 based on my K36 results. While I understand from the Eurogenes blog that the individual components should not be taken too literally due to calculator design as a chromosome painting tool rather than admixture analysis, my highest component score of Iberian instead of assumed N. Atlantic (mostly British heritage) could prove geographically interesting. ;) So where did I land? Apparently in southern England around Cardiff if I didn't get lost or hit a roadblock - LOL! Not too far from Eurogenes K13 top single mode result of (1) SE English.

Latitude: 51.941073840 / Longitude: 1.965534453999986



Population

%



Amerindian

0.95


Basque

0.66


Central_Euro

5.97


East_Balkan

0.78


East_Central_Euro

8.54


Eastern_Euro

3.01


Fennoscandian

10.83


French

6.54


Iberian

18.53


Italian

8.46


North_Atlantic

16.23


North_Caucasian

1.67


North_Sea

15.5


South_Central_Asian

0.16


Volga-Ural

0.91


West_Med

1.25

Gaku
08-21-2016, 11:30 PM
For kicks, I tried Tolan's Locator tool per post #117 based on my K36 results. While I understand from the Eurogenes blog that the individual components should not be taken too literally due to calculator design as a chromosome painting tool rather than admixture analysis, my highest component score of Iberian instead of assumed N. Atlantic (mostly British heritage) could prove geographically interesting. ;) So where did I land? Apparently in southern England around Cardiff if I didn't get lost or hit a roadblock - LOL! Not too far from Eurogenes K13 top single mode result of (1) SE English.

Latitude: 51.941073840 / Longitude: 1.965534453999986



Interesting.

Self
La Turballe, France apparently. Not bad even if a bit far north.

Dad
His family is apparently ocean dwellers. I liked the movie Waterworld... maybe it was trying to tell me something. Had to use google earth to get the location --- draw a line west from Casablanca [Morocco] and south from London [UK]. X "marks" the spot.

Mom
Tittmoning, Germany. Move it a bit more westerly and it is pretty accurate for her German side actually.

Sister
Hammamet, Nabeul, Tunisia



For those wanting an idea this site...

http://stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php

... doesn't do bad Latitude/Longitude conversions to actual addresses.



Beyond that google earth is useful for such ocean dwellers.

AnnieD
08-22-2016, 06:11 AM
For those wanting an idea this site...

http://stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php

... doesn't do bad Latitude/Longitude conversions to actual addresses.

I tried the Steve Morse latitude tool - nifty! It didn't take me on too much of a detour as I identify as mostly UK heritage. :)

Virtual Earth
Tewkesbury, Glos, United Kingdom (SW England)

@ Gaku,
As you self-identify first as Basque and appear to have significant UK heritage but with other European regional & even Asian influences, I would say that the N. France location is a pretty good "blend". :)

David Mc
08-22-2016, 07:23 AM
For kicks, I tried Tolan's Locator tool per post #117 based on my K36 results...

Well, that was a bit of fun. I did the same and, using Gaku's link, was plotted in Short Drove, Somersham, Huntingdonshire, Cambridgeshire.

The K36 gave me the following:

Basque 1.21
Central_Euro 7.61
East_Central_Euro 6.43
Eastern_Euro 8.73
Fennoscandian 5.93
French 12.02
Iberian 11.29
Italian 7.54
North_Atlantic 15.81
North_Caucasian 0.37
North_Sea 21.16
West_Med 1.90

Re: the Cambridgeshire placement, my father is from Northern Ireland, but is of Scots, English, and patrilineally, Manx descent. My mother is mostly English, but her maternal grandfather was Irish. Interestingly, her father's line was East Anglian.

SwampThing27
08-22-2016, 03:10 PM
Well, that was a bit of fun. I did the same and, using Gaku's link, was plotted in Short Drove, Somersham, Huntingdonshire, Cambridgeshire.

The K36 gave me the following:

Basque 1.21
Central_Euro 7.61
East_Central_Euro 6.43
Eastern_Euro 8.73
Fennoscandian 5.93
French 12.02
Iberian 11.29
Italian 7.54
North_Atlantic 15.81
North_Caucasian 0.37
North_Sea 21.16
West_Med 1.90

Re: the Cambridgeshire placement, my father is from Northern Ireland, but is of Scots, English, and patrilineally, Manx descent. My mother is mostly English, but her maternal grandfather was Irish. Interestingly, her father's line was East Anglian.

I tried it out as well and got placed in Picardy, France.

kujira692
08-22-2016, 03:32 PM
I tried this out as well, the Latitude and Longitude tool:

My mother received Nottinghamshire, England (she's largely East Anglian, Kent, some Irish and Scottish...maybe a little Dutch)
My father received Kortrijk, West Flanders, Belgium (he's largely German, Irish & French)

Shuffle
08-22-2016, 07:25 PM
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.09
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.03
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 6.92
East_Med 3.85
Eastern_Euro 3.04
Fennoscandian 11.11
French 4.90
Iberian 16.89
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.74
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 10.83
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 13.59
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.10
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.89
West_Med 3.01


It placed me nearly exactly 600 Km to the west from where I come from (Charmes, Lorraine) but one half of my family has their roots in the Alsace-Lorraine-Baden-Palatinate-region, so it's probably this, it may also be that South-Germans come out more western than their region of living would suggest, who knows.

Mike_G
08-22-2016, 10:37 PM
59.9N 14.5E. Smack dab between Oslo and Stockholm. No known Scandinavian ancestry...unless Eurogenes or MDLP K-23 is running my data.

randwulf
08-23-2016, 12:23 AM
My father gets Saint-Martin-de-Commune, France - a bit west of his German ancestry area, but about perfect North/South.

Gaku
08-23-2016, 01:26 AM
@ Gaku,
As you self-identify first as Basque and appear to have significant UK heritage but with other European regional & even Asian influences, I would say that the N. France location is a pretty good "blend". :)

I'd hope to have Asian influence seeing as my grandmother was 1/2 Japanese as just one example.


As for significant UK it is actually rather small and littered with displaced French [Huguenots] & others. The signature is just too short to give everything accurately. An example - dad's father's grandmother wasn't British she was of Huguenot / Swiss descendant but I don't include that in the modern timeframe as there's no room.


The Basque flag, and I may have missed it, but I don't believe there's a flag on the forums that really represents southern France.

ffoucart
08-23-2016, 08:09 AM
I'd hope to have Asian influence seeing as my grandmother was 1/2 Japanese as just one example.


As for significant UK it is actually rather small and littered with displaced French [Huguenots] & others. The signature is just too short to give everything accurately. An example - dad's father's grandmother wasn't British she was of Huguenot / Swiss descendant but I don't include that in the modern timeframe as there's no room.


The Basque flag, and I may have missed it, but I don't believe there's a flag on the forums that really represents southern France.

you can request a Occitanie flag in the proper forum.

add-on: already done: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?28-Flag-Request-Thread/page18

kingjohn
10-17-2016, 01:30 PM
eurogenes k36 of german jews
i match notice the lack of east central euro and eastern euro
expected since there ancestors never left germany to eastern europe so the chance to east european admixture was low .
12199
12200

regards
adam

L1983
10-17-2016, 02:57 PM
Tried that cool tool from Tolan.

With Ancestry I ended up in Belgium and 23andme NW Holland.

Father ended up in the North Sea off the coast of Scarborough!

Bonacci
10-17-2016, 03:09 PM
Sunni Lebanese from Beirut:https://s21.postimg.org/45o9pjvxx/Sunni_Leb.png

Orthodox Palestinian from Bir Zeithttps://s22.postimg.org/55df37xyn/Pal.png

Moroccan Jewhttps://s17.postimg.org/9bsh4pwzh/Morocco_Jew.png

Portugese from Pico Island, Azoreshttps://s22.postimg.org/klx06iftd/Portu.png

Italian from Calabriahttps://s21.postimg.org/x4mihdyw7/Calab.png

Hungarian from Szeklerlandhttps://s18.postimg.org/r24jmrwyx/Hun.png

kingjohn
10-17-2016, 03:58 PM
wow north atlantic and north sea in morocan jew
that took me by surprise :D
thanks man

regards
adam

the morocan jew also score 3.5% basque very cool
i wish to see his dna land result some day :)

kevinduffy
10-17-2016, 06:08 PM
Ethnicity: Irish


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 1.98
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.63
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.82
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.95
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 6.81
Fennoscandian 5.74
French 9.62
Iberian 17.53
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 4.94
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 17.11
North_Caucasian 4.41
North_Sea 17.45
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

Maximilian
10-21-2016, 12:31 PM
Population
Amerindian 0.43
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.54
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.41
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.64
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 17.93
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.00
Fennoscandian 11.03
French 4.25
Iberian 3.21
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.78
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 10.80
North_Caucasian 3.52
North_Sea 11.45
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.07
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.27
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.65

Massam
10-21-2016, 02:11 PM
South Western French (Toulouse):

Iberian 25.24
Basque 13.58
North_Atlantic 11.39
Italian 11.25
North_Sea 7.92
West_Med 6.06
East_Balkan 4.98
Eastern_Euro 4.57
Central_Euro 3.92
French 3.81
East_Med 3.47
East_Central_Euro 1.92
Near_Eastern 0.99
North_African 0.89

North Eastern French:

Iberian 24.98
Italian 16.33
North_Sea 13.24
North_Atlantic 9.90
Eastern_Euro 7.20
French 6.65
Fennoscandian 4.25
Central_Euro 4.20
Basque 3.42
East_Balkan 3.42
North_Caucasian 2.46
East_Central_Euro 1.24
West_Med 1.15
Armenian 1.13
Pygmy 0.26
Near_Eastern 0.16

kevinduffy
10-21-2016, 02:20 PM
South Western French (Toulouse)

Iberian 25.24
Basque 13.58
North_Atlantic 11.39
Italian 11.25
North_Sea 7.92
West_Med 6.06
East_Balkan 4.98
Eastern_Euro 4.57
Central_Euro 3.92
French 3.81
East_Med 3.47
East_Central_Euro 1.92
Near_Eastern 0.99
North_African 0.89

It is strange that your French score is 3.81 while my French score is 9.62 and I am Irish. I guess there is something wrong with this particular calculator.

Massam
10-21-2016, 02:30 PM
It is strange that your French score is 3.81 while my French score is 9.62 and I am Irish. I guess there is something wrong with this particular calculator.

I would not say there is something wrong with Eurogenes k36 but it is harder to interpret for sure. With a 9,62 you will score higher in french category than most french people. I hope you like us a little bit ;)

Dewsloth
10-21-2016, 04:15 PM
eurogenes k36 of german jews
i match notice the lack of east central euro and eastern euro
expected since there ancestors never left germany to eastern europe so the chance to east european admixture was low .
12199
12200

regards
adam

Here's dad's for this calculator:

Basque 2.96
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.40
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.73
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.11
East_Med 3.40
Eastern_Euro 0.59
Fennoscandian 7.95
French 8.00
Iberian 12.86
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.33
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.41
North_Atlantic 11.76
North_Caucasian 3.05
North_Sea 14.59
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.47
West_Med 2.38

Edit: Here's mine

Arabian 4.95
Armenian 4.71
Basque 2.52
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.85
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.88
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.21
East_Med 16.99
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 5.80
Iberian 8.08
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.04
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 9.88
North_African -
North_Atlantic 6.55
North_Caucasian 7.53
North_Sea 7.54
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.29
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.91
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.37
West_Med 0.89

anglesqueville
10-21-2016, 04:37 PM
It is strange that your French score is 3.81 while my French score is 9.62 and I am Irish. I guess there is something wrong with this particular calculator.

Possiby that component peaks in northwestern european. Examples: 3 islanders, average 7 / 10 norwegians, average 6.7 . Very low for finnish (1.8 on 53 individuals). Don't know for southerners.

Dewsloth
10-21-2016, 05:20 PM
Possiby that component peaks in northwestern european. Examples: 3 islanders, average 7 / 10 norwegians, average 6.7 . Very low for finnish (1.8 on 53 individuals). Don't know for southerners.

Yeah, look above at my dad's French score. He usually scores mostly Scandinavian, (he's German/English as far back as we have records). I think the French data in the calculator may have a bunch of Normans...


Edit:

The locator program from post 117 gives dad a location of Givry-en-Argonne, France; which is about 150km due west of where at least 5 generations of the German side of my family lived. Not bad. It seems they didn't move much in the last 2000 years!

kevinduffy
10-21-2016, 05:35 PM
Yeah, look above at my dad's French score. He usually scores mostly Scandinavian, (he's German/English as far back as we have records). I think the French data in the calculator may have a bunch of Normans...

Or perhaps Bretons? :)

kevinduffy
10-21-2016, 05:43 PM
I would not say there is something wrong with Eurogenes k36 but it is harder to interpret for sure. With a 9,62 you will score higher in french category than most french people. I hope you like us a little bit ;)

I have never had a problem with French people. :) I wonder if the Eurogenes K36 "French" component may have something to do with the Bretons or maybe the descendants of the ancient Gauls?

kevinduffy
10-21-2016, 05:49 PM
South Western French (Toulouse):

Iberian 25.24
Basque 13.58
North_Atlantic 11.39
Italian 11.25
North_Sea 7.92
West_Med 6.06
East_Balkan 4.98
Eastern_Euro 4.57
Central_Euro 3.92
French 3.81
East_Med 3.47
East_Central_Euro 1.92
Near_Eastern 0.99
North_African 0.89

North Eastern French:

Iberian 24.98
Italian 16.33
North_Sea 13.24
North_Atlantic 9.90
Eastern_Euro 7.20
French 6.65
Fennoscandian 4.25
Central_Euro 4.20
Basque 3.42
East_Balkan 3.42
North_Caucasian 2.46
East_Central_Euro 1.24
West_Med 1.15
Armenian 1.13
Pygmy 0.26
Near_Eastern 0.16

I think the "French" component should be renamed since it seems to fluctuate considerably amongst French people.

anglesqueville
10-21-2016, 06:09 PM
I think the "French" component should be renamed since it seems to fluctuate considerably amongst French people.

K36 is an old and rather special calculator ( 36 is a so high value for K...) . I think that likely every component name is disputable. Btw I'm mostly norman (3/4 + 1/4 frisian), and my "french" is 9.56.

Massam
10-21-2016, 06:22 PM
I have never had a problem with French people. :) I wonder if the Eurogenes K36 "French" component may have something to do with the Bretons or maybe the descendants of the ancient Gauls?

If it was closely related to Bretons Tolan who published his results in page 1 should get the highest score but that's not the case (7,58). Still, the Anglesqueville's "north western french" hypothesis is probably right the french category being somewhere between North_atlantic,North_sea and Iberian. I'm sorry that I can't explain this, I never really understood how did David to elaborate this calculator. It's definitely a special one :D
Have a look on his explanations about it http://bga101.blogspot.fr/2013/03/eurogenes-k36-at-gedmatch.html
I quote him: "An important point to keep in mind is not to take the ancestry proportions too literally. If you're, say, English, and you get an Iberian score of 12% this doesn't actually mean you have recent ancestry from Spain or Portugal. What it means is that 12% of your alleles look typical of the reference samples classified as Iberian, and this figure might only indicate recent Iberian admixture if it's clearly higher than those of other English users."
I agree the french label is a bit confusing here.

Underworld
10-21-2016, 07:04 PM
It is strange that your French score is 3.81 while my French score is 9.62 and I am Irish. I guess there is something wrong with this particular calculator.

From what I understand, this calculator just uses samples of different modern day European populations. If a certain part of your genome is more common in another population than in your native one, it will show up in that population component (obviously this is in theory, because if the samples aren't of the best quality, or if the calculator has a low amount of samples for some components, the results you get can be erroneous). You can see the populations used in each component here:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/edit

The problem with the French component is that the samples used in it are from the HGDP project, and I highly suspect that they are not representative of the general French population, but of other more isolate populations within France. When this project was carried out, they seem to have prioritized getting samples from unique populations such as the Basques and the Sardinians, as these populations will probably lose their "uniqueness" with globalization, so the sooner they get them, the better. Same thing for the French samples: they don't say where they got them, but I suspect it's some isolate group that certainly isn't very representative of the general French population. As said by other users, it indeed seems to peak in Northwestern Europeans. The Scottish and the Irish seem to have the some of the highest from what I've seen, together with some Northern French.

On another note, I think the Iberian that you and other users are scoring is mainly the ancestry you have from the Early Neolithic Farmers, as that type of ancestry peaks in Iberians, and the type of ENF that most Western Europeans have is somewhat similar to the type of ENF in Spain (you can see it in this paper on page 371: http://www.pnas.org/content/113/2/368.full.pdf). The map on page 371 also explains why I score 17.5% Italian, which in this calculator, is made of Northern Italian and Tuscan samples.

This calculator is certainly not fully optimized, but it can help decipher a lot of details about one's population, although It's obviously hard to interpret the results.

Maximilian
10-21-2016, 08:31 PM
Amerindian 0.43


Does this really mean that I have ancestors from the indigenous peoples of America?!

randwulf
10-21-2016, 09:11 PM
I think the "French" component should be renamed since it seems to fluctuate considerably amongst French people.

The following are the names of the samples for the "French" component in Euro K36. They seem to all be French and from the HGDP collection, so would be French enough, though I wouldn't know from what part of the country:

French French_HGDP00511 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00512 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00513 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00514 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00515 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00516 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00517 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00518 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00519 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00520 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00521 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00522 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00523 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00524 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00525 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00526 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00527 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00528 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00529 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00530 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00531 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00533 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00534 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00535 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00536 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00537 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00538 0 0 0 -9
French French_HGDP00539 0 0 0 -9

I think the explanation has more to do with calculating someone's admixture with reference to 36 different populations. It is more creating a set of shadings to the results rather than trying to figure out if your are French, Irish, etc. According to the calculator documentation, it isn't designed primarily to look at the overall results, but rather to analyze small segments of the chromosomes. My dad (ancestors from Saarland, Southern Hesse, Northern Baden-Wurttemburg, Northwest Bavaria):

Italian 15.16%
North_Atlantic 14.03%
North_Sea 13.15%
Iberian 10.46%
Central_Euro 9.48%
French 9.46%
Eastern_Euro 5.78%
Fennoscandian 5.30%
East_Central_Euro 4.54%
Basque 2.73%
Armenian 2.38%
West_Med 2.37%
South_Central_Asian 1.30%
East_Balkan 1.27%
East_Med 1.16%
Siberian 0.65%
Oceanian 0.43%
Amerindian 0.20%
Arabian 0.14%

So, I think of the Italian, North_Atlantic, North_Sea, Iberian, Central_Euro, French, Eastern_Euro, Fennoscandian, East_Central_Euro, Armenian, Basque, West_Med as the major shades/components of him being a South and West German rather than being too concerned how much French he has (the closest population to his ancestry) just because of the way this calculator is breaking things up into little pieces and adding them up at the end.

So, Massam's SW French person has a lot of Iberian, Basque, and North Atlantic (not that odd is it?) and when broken into little pieces, more of them associate with those populations than the actual French one. Same with the NE French person who still looks a lot Iberian, but has Italian and North Sea to a greater extent and more of the French (maybe the list of French persons in the test I listed match this NE French person better?). For whatever reason, my father gets 9.46% French, which is higher than either of them.

I have also noticed while doing the detailed, small segment evaluations that even shifting the start and stop point of the segment by 50 SNPs can change the majority population of the segment to shift from one population to something close by because it just changes the perspective enough to make it change. I think it is the nature of the K36 admixture evaluation.

anglesqueville
10-21-2016, 09:23 PM
The problem with the French component is that the samples used in it are from the HGDP project, and I highly suspect that they are not representative of the general French population, but of other more isolate populations within France.
Don't agree. On the site of the CEPH/HGDP (http://www.cephb.fr/hgdp/main.php) you'll find all useful informations about the HGDP sampling. For the french sample, you can read: 12296. The coordinates (46,2) give this point :12297. Furthermore, I have drawn many PCAs with the european HGDP individuals, and on each one the french cluster strenches from the southerner clusters ( Basque and North Italy) to the orcadian one. For example, for Eurogenes EUTest: 12298. That said, I'm not sure that the HGDP sample is representative of the "general french population", just because I'm quite sure that this "general french population" does'nt exist. ;) Furthermore, it's always unwise to get into "numbers fetishism" with the admixture calculators. With K36, that would be quite reckless.

randwulf
10-22-2016, 03:04 PM
Does this really mean that I have ancestors from the indigenous peoples of America?!

From your location on your profile, I would guess it is more likely the ANE like stuff that Amerindians and Western Europeans share.

L1983
10-22-2016, 04:15 PM
Mine, mother's and father's using AncestyDNA

Mine
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.11
Basque 3.94
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.85
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.60
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 6.52
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 1.42
Fennoscandian 10.16
French 6.03
Iberian 11.96
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.28
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 16.50
North_Caucasian 3.63
North_Sea 15.45
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 2.00
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.21
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.34

Mother's
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.31
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.06
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.73
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.13
Fennoscandian 9.99
French 6.50
Iberian 11.28
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.26
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 15.67
North_Caucasian 3.60
North_Sea 17.27
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.21
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

Father's
Population
Amerindian 0.42
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.97
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.16
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.34
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.63
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 11.18
French 7.12
Iberian 18.48
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 3.83
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 17.69
North_Caucasian 6.37
North_Sea 14.93
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.58
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.29

Pigmon
10-22-2016, 07:48 PM
Just got my family finder results and I am exploring all the tests available. After exploiting y-DNA as far as I could I finally am putting my toe gently in the pond of autosomal!! I am a total family finder newby so any help anyone could give me would help!!

Population
Amerindian 2.74
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.94
Central_African 0.07
Central_Euro 7.93
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.40
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.73
Fennoscandian 4.84
French 4.11
Iberian 16.21
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 8.10
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.18
North_Atlantic 17.64
North_Caucasian 5.14
North_Sea 19.43
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 1.04
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.81
West_African 0.76
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.92

FredBats
10-23-2016, 03:07 PM
Disappointed didn't see one member post here, was looking for a comparable even given their claimed ancestry it might be a bit skewed.

Cousin
Population
Arabian 1.00
Armenian 6.35
Basque 3.37
East_Balkan 5.94
East_Med 20.77
French 6.94
Iberian 8.82
Italian 12.51
Near_Eastern 16.97
North_African 2.84
North_Atlantic 3.62
North_Sea 0.57
West_Caucasian 4.90
West_Med 5.40


Dad
Basque 4.91
Central_Euro 8.77
East_Balkan 3.56
East_Central_Euro 6.65
East_Med 0.13
Eastern_Euro 4.23
Fennoscandian 6.54
French 7.19
Iberian 8.67
Italian 11.70
North_Atlantic 12.97
North_Caucasian 1.41
North_Sea 20.10
Omotic 0.56
South_Central_Asian 0.11
West_African 0.25
West_Med 2.27

Mum
Basque 3.52
Central_Euro 8.50
East_Balkan 1.83
East_Central_Euro 1.47
East_Med 0.86
Eastern_Euro 3.43
Fennoscandian 9.97
French 2.61
Iberian 14.98
Italian 13.34
North_African 2.19
North_Atlantic 16.65
North_Caucasian 1.47
North_Sea 17.64
Pygmy 0.35
Volga-Ural 1.08
West_Caucasian 0.09

AnnieD
10-23-2016, 05:26 PM
Disappointed didn't see one member post here, was looking for a comparable even given their claimed ancestry it might be a bit skewed.

Randwulf has a helpful post at #182 below concerning how the K36 calculator works well as a chromosome painting tool rather than an ethnicity indicator. However, it probably doesn't hurt to compare your general ratios to others in your supposed ancestral group for ideas. If you get intrigued enough with this tool, he also has a thread on this forum in which he "paints" the Native American & other trace admixture in his family tree.

FredBats
10-23-2016, 05:44 PM
Randwulf has a helpful post at #182 below concerning how the K36 calculator works well as a chromosome painting tool rather than an ethnicity indicator. However, it probably doesn't hurt to compare your general ratios to others in your supposed ancestral group for ideas. If you get intrigued enough with this tool, he also has a thread on this forum in which he "paints" the Native American & other trace admixture in his family tree.

Well it was the cousin that I wanted to compare. But I don't think, unless mistaken, that anyone on these forums is an authentic full blooded Ashkenazi jew. Even half Ashkenazi might be stretching it unless, again, I am missing someone or another.

AnnieD
10-23-2016, 07:19 PM
Well it was the cousin that I wanted to compare. But I don't think, unless mistaken, that anyone on these forums is an authentic full blooded Ashkenazi jew. Even half Ashkenazi might be stretching it unless, again, I am missing someone or another.

There are quite a few threads, at least 1 currently, that discuss Ashkenazi results, where you could get an idea of admixture results. The K36 tool would work well for comparing segments that match this admixture between family members. You can load both of your kits & see if any segments are "painted" with this category.
___________________________
Tangent for Ashkenazi comment:
I would add that I have no paper trail of Ashkenazi / Jewish but was told that I probably had an Ashkenazi GGP on Scotland's DNA Chromo 2 test when I requested help in interpreting their charts. At 23andMe, I show less than 0.1 in spec mode, and the chromosome tool on that site locates it solely on chromosome 6. From what I've read, chromo 6 is a notoriously unreliable or "sticky" zone (I forget the exact term that I heard) that members commonly show exotic results for known ancestry. Which is right? :noidea:

The_Lyonnist
10-23-2016, 07:35 PM
Does this really mean that I have ancestors from the indigenous peoples of America?!

Only cousins.

Maximilian
10-24-2016, 10:44 AM
Only cousins.

Then we all do, I guess.

shazou
10-26-2016, 02:04 PM
East_Asian 7.76
East_Med 0.98
Indo-Chinese 19.70
Malayan 45.83
South_Chinese 25.32
Volga-Ural 0.22
West_Med 0.17

Dewsloth
10-26-2016, 03:57 PM
East_Asian 7.76
East_Med 0.98
Indo-Chinese 19.70
Malayan 45.83
South_Chinese 25.32
Volga-Ural 0.22
West_Med 0.17

Cool. My wife's parents are both from the Philippines, I need to get one of my brothers-in-law to test. I'm curious to see what's there.
One parent is from Metro-Manila area and his matrilinial side has a surname that I've read traces back to Valencia/Catalan region of Spain.

wandering_amorite
10-26-2016, 05:49 PM
Well it was the cousin that I wanted to compare. But I don't think, unless mistaken, that anyone on these forums is an authentic full blooded Ashkenazi jew. Even half Ashkenazi might be stretching it unless, again, I am missing someone or another.

There are a few of us.

FredBats
10-29-2016, 02:59 PM
Friend [from Helsinki]

East_Central_Euro 15.44
Eastern_Euro 12.75
Fennoscandian 54.52
North_Atlantic 16.83
North_Sea 0.46

Bonacci
10-29-2016, 03:05 PM
Cool. My wife's parents are both from the Philippines, I need to get one of my brothers-in-law to test. I'm curious to see what's there.
One parent is from Metro-Manila area and his matrilinial side has a surname that I've read traces back to Valencia/Catalan region of Spain.

Majority of Philippine citizens have Spanish surnames, it alone doesn't indicate Spanish ancestry.

FredBats
10-29-2016, 03:44 PM
Cool. My wife's parents are both from the Philippines, I need to get one of my brothers-in-law to test. I'm curious to see what's there.
One parent is from Metro-Manila area and his matrilinial side has a surname that I've read traces back to Valencia/Catalan region of Spain.



Majority of Philippine citizens have Spanish surnames, it alone doesn't indicate Spanish ancestry.

Of course there's Spanish surnames in the Philippines - like saying there's Anglo-Saxon names in England. The Spanish were, after all, in the Philippines.


But as Bonacci said that doesn't mean there is actual Spanish ancestry. Servants, etc. maybe favoured with earning the right to take on their "masters" surname to show that they aren't among the average rambler. What do you think happened occasionally in the States with rather Anglo names appearing in rather African families? Not all of those Anglo names were introduced via mistresses and, not to be crude, "bastards".

Then there's the fostering of names merely on location & occupation. A large number of surnames do after all have origins in one's location and/or one's profession. So if one is born near town X and their surname is X something does that mean they are Spanish?

Or does the name Ferrer for example mean the ancestor was actually Spanish or that the founding "father" of that family happened to ironically be just a blacksmith.


Regardless it still amused me when I was using forebears.io on the non-modernized Old English version of my surname to find it as rather common in the Philippines. Change a vowel and it's the same thing. Possibly due to ancestors who were in the merchant business way back when but still it raised an eyebrow.


Also a number of Asians I find with non-Asian names which make one think. My colleague is Thai, from Bangkok, and when I first saw their name before ever meeting them I was thinking Iranian even Persian due to the name name [as it is Persian].

Bonacci
10-29-2016, 07:48 PM
Of course there's Spanish surnames in the Philippines - like saying there's Anglo-Saxon names in England. The Spanish were, after all, in the Philippines.


But as Bonacci said that doesn't mean there is actual Spanish ancestry. Servants, etc. maybe favoured with earning the right to take on their "masters" surname to show that they aren't among the average rambler. What do you think happened occasionally in the States with rather Anglo names appearing in rather African families? Not all of those Anglo names were introduced via mistresses and, not to be crude, "bastards".

Then there's the fostering of names merely on location & occupation. A large number of surnames do after all have origins in one's location and/or one's profession. So if one is born near town X and their surname is X something does that mean they are Spanish?

Or does the name Ferrer for example mean the ancestor was actually Spanish or that the founding "father" of that family happened to ironically be just a blacksmith.


Regardless it still amused me when I was using forebears.io on the non-modernized Old English version of my surname to find it as rather common in the Philippines. Change a vowel and it's the same thing. Possibly due to ancestors who were in the merchant business way back when but still it raised an eyebrow.


Also a number of Asians I find with non-Asian names which make one think. My colleague is Thai, from Bangkok, and when I first saw their name before ever meeting them I was thinking Iranian even Persian due to the name name [as it is Persian].

Thai is a complicated society as they're generally a mixed population of South Chinese, Cambodians (Khmer) and South Asians. Some have South Asian names, which might indicate ancestry from there. There's also a small percent of Muslims living in the South next to Malaysia who are of Malay ancestry.
Most countries today are made by political borders, not by ethnic make up, like Chinese assimilated many tribes over time and forced them to call themselves as "Han" and people in order to save their lives applied and changed identity, the same happens nowadays when some people in India speaks English better than their tribal language and it often comes with name exchanges as you'll see more and more people with English originated names all over the world, it's purely based on cultural&economical domination.

I've had luck to met with some Taiwanese students and if i didn't know their origin only names i'd have been think they're British or Anglo Americans with some Chinese students.

A lot people in Pakistan consider themselves "Arab" even if they have no genetic link to Arabian peninsula, the Muslim world made people as an ethnic unity even if they have no connection other than religion.

FredBats
10-29-2016, 09:03 PM
Thai is a complicated society as they're generally a mixed population of South Chinese, Cambodians (Khmer) and South Asians. Some have South Asian names, which might indicate ancestry from there. There's also a small percent of Muslims living in the South next to Malaysia who are of Malay ancestry.
Most countries today are made by political borders, not by ethnic make up, like Chinese assimilated many tribes over time and forced them to call themselves as "Han" and people in order to save their lives applied and changed identity, the same happens nowadays when some people in India speaks English better than their tribal language and it often comes with name exchanges as you'll see more and more people with English originated names all over the world, it's purely based on cultural&economical domination.

I've had luck to met with some Taiwanese students and if i didn't know their origin only names i'd have been think they're British or Anglo Americans with some Chinese students.

A lot people in Pakistan consider themselves "Arab" even if they have no genetic link to Arabian peninsula, the Muslim world made people as an ethnic unity even if they have no connection other than religion.



Agreed. Particularly about borders. As a Russian friend's grandfather said when asked his thoughts on Stalin not been Russia-born his exact words "borders are meaningless constructs designed by governments and nothing more".

Though I should have clarified with my Thai colleague. Most of my colleagues are mid-eastern, Egyptian or north African. Employers generally do not deviate from their hiring practices, try working with four James all at the same time and figuring out which one they mean, so when I saw the name I made the natural assumption Iranian or Persian. Foolish yes for names / surnames don't necessiate ethnicity or origins.



Most countries today are made by political borders, not by ethnic make up, like Chinese assimilated many tribes over time and forced them to call themselves as "Han" and people in order to save their lives applied and changed identity,

Survival is also easier if one doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. Integration as some call it. There has been, after all, anglicizing of Irish, Scottish or European names in predominantly English countries / colonies for a rather long time. I am quite sure there are "English" colonist families, after all, who have stumbled across more than a few Swiss, Dutch, German, or other not-so-English names/surnames in their research on their roots.


But the original theme was a Filipino with Spanish roots. It is possible. I've encountered, and once worked with a poor chap that was doing security work here after having fled due to political issues after been both military and a nuclear engineering degree, Filipinos who look remarkably hispanic compared to what google images will show you as the sterotypical image. But still it is hard to prove such on mere surname.

Bonacci
10-30-2016, 09:10 PM
Agreed. Particularly about borders. As a Russian friend's grandfather said when asked his thoughts on Stalin not been Russia-born his exact words "borders are meaningless constructs designed by governments and nothing more".

Though I should have clarified with my Thai colleague. Most of my colleagues are mid-eastern, Egyptian or north African. Employers generally do not deviate from their hiring practices, try working with four James all at the same time and figuring out which one they mean, so when I saw the name I made the natural assumption Iranian or Persian. Foolish yes for names / surnames don't necessiate ethnicity or origins.



Most countries today are made by political borders, not by ethnic make up, like Chinese assimilated many tribes over time and forced them to call themselves as "Han" and people in order to save their lives applied and changed identity,

Survival is also easier if one doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. Integration as some call it. There has been, after all, anglicizing of Irish, Scottish or European names in predominantly English countries / colonies for a rather long time. I am quite sure there are "English" colonist families, after all, who have stumbled across more than a few Swiss, Dutch, German, or other not-so-English names/surnames in their research on their roots.


But the original theme was a Filipino with Spanish roots. It is possible. I've encountered, and once worked with a poor chap that was doing security work here after having fled due to political issues after been both military and a nuclear engineering degree, Filipinos who look remarkably hispanic compared to what google images will show you as the sterotypical image. But still it is hard to prove such on mere surname.

Mexican, "Chicano" style is favored by low-middle class Asian Americans who often join Mexican gangs or favor them over Black gangs like Crips, it's not necessary to be part of the gang but most sympathize with Latin American groups especially Filippino, Cambodian and other usually dark skinned Asians it might give them a pseudo latino look as they dress the same.
Personally i don't think there's any Spanish genetic influence in Philippinos except the ruling class.

kingjohn
11-05-2016, 05:21 PM
north degestan
eurogenes k36
the same guy who score 27% british in ftdna my origin
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?7844-FTDNA-My-Origins-results/page9

12440

he score north atlantic and north sea thats a good explanation for british or scandinavia who appear :)

regards
Adam


p.s tag heuer who is chechenian very close to degestan also score british
the lost celts in north caucasus .:D

hakonn
11-06-2016, 03:44 PM
here is my results.. it differs than conventional Turkish results.


Population
East_Med 19.78
North_Caucasian 16.77
Near_Eastern 13.43
South_Central_Asian 9.65
Italian 9.02
West_Caucasian 7.68
Armenian 5.17
North_Sea 3.89
East_Central_Euro 2.82
French 2.79
Iberian 1.44
Central_Euro 1.38
East_Balkan 1.19
Fennoscandian 1.04
West_Med 1.04
East_Asian 1

Silesian
11-07-2016, 01:40 AM
for fun to get a general idea relative to others and far from perfect; using Eurogenes K36 coupled with exclusive Euro place map calculator
http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm

Poland hits are myself and father R1b-BY-593+
North Sea hits-Estonian Corded Ware/2-Unetice/Sintasta-R1a-93/4
Sweden hit-Villabruna 14k+/- R1b-L754+/Finland hit Khvalynsk R1b L754 6k+/- R1b-3 Baltic hits are R1b-Z2103-Yamnaya
Romania and Black Sea hits are Armenian R1b
Iran hit is F38 R1b
African hit is composite Natufian

http://oi66.tinypic.com/2ekj40y.

firemonkey
11-07-2016, 04:17 AM
Mine: Latitude 56.644847122 Longitude -2.1260894079

In the North sea according to google maps

Father: Latitude 57.217240114 Longitude -1.5738125379

In the North sea according to google maps

Mother: phased kit so just for fun Latitude 52.231552363999995 Longitude 4.58990076400

Sophialaan 61, 2157 NE Abbenes, Netherlands


Father: phased kit Latitude 56.98161888999999 Longitude -7.059942405999969

Inner seas off the West coast of Scotland

Kiln
11-07-2016, 05:05 AM
http://i.imgur.com/NtepVc3.png

I'm always mapped to France is these sorts of calculators.

Smilelover
11-07-2016, 04:05 PM
I am Yemeni from Hadhramout

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions
Population
Arabian 17.16
Armenian 5.48
East_African 2.64
East_Med 11.06
Near_Eastern 24.10
North_Caucasian 1.43
Northeast_African 20.78
Pygmy 0.41
Siberian 1.05
South_Asian 2.61
South_Central_Asian 3.20
West_African 10.08

hakonn
11-07-2016, 06:37 PM
I have written a comment on Eurogenes website and complained about the ambiguity of the locations mentioned on K 36 project and asked them to publish a map showing 36 of the regions mentioned by colours or lines. If some of us make the same complaint on their website and if they can publish such a map than we can more clearly discuss about our results here.

Here is their address: http://eurogenes.blogspot.com

randwulf
11-07-2016, 06:58 PM
I have written a comment on Eurogenes website and complained about the ambiguity of the locations mentioned on K 36 project and asked them to publish a map showing 36 of the regions mentioned by colours or lines. If some of us make the same complaint on their website and if they can publish such a map than we can more clearly discuss about our results here.

Here is their address: http://eurogenes.blogspot.com

The author of that calculator provided a spreadsheet naming the individual files that make up each population already. It is fairly easy to dispel the ambiguity by opening it and reading the names of the files. There is a link to it somewhere in this thread and also somewhere on the blog you posted, as well as other places.

hakonn
11-07-2016, 08:13 PM
I also remember such a spreadsheet on some website related to K36 but it did not seem legitimate to me because it was showing sample peoples country of origin and it was obvious that they have only collected 10 finnish people to make up fennoscannian, for example. If so we should not rely on this calculator. If not, it would not be hard to colour a world map and to publish it on the blog.

Oleg (Rus)
11-15-2016, 02:01 PM
Amerindian 1.28
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.72
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.25
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.33
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.88
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 19.82
Fennoscandian 21.97
French 4.06
Iberian 1.29
Indo-Chinese 0.57
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 5.43
North_Caucasian 4.04
North_Sea 6.48
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.17
Pygmy -
Siberian 1.40
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 2.49
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.04
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.73
West_Med -

Missouri1455
11-15-2016, 03:17 PM
Me:

Arabian 25.12
Armenian 0.13
Basque 0.38
East_African 4.35
Near_Eastern 19.61
North_African 1.02
Northeast_African 22.51
Oceanian 0.24
Pygmy 0.46
Siberian 0.72
South_Asian 1.09
South_Central_Asian 0.15
West_African 8.53

hakonn
12-05-2016, 02:28 AM
where is your mother and father from Turkey?
ur results somewhat close to mine also.

Tomris
12-05-2016, 08:02 AM
East_Med 10.31
East_Central_Euro 9.92
Italian 8.93
North_Atlantic 7.24
East_Balkan 6.66
North_Sea 6.65
North_Caucasian 6.11
Armenian 5.57
Near_Eastern 5.09
Eastern_Euro 4.59
Fennoscandian 4.51
Central_Euro 4.48
West_Med 3.72
West_Caucasian 3.92
Iberian 2.34
French 2.51
Siberian 1.97
Arabian 1.67
East_Central_Asian 1.01
South_Chinese 1.00
South_Central_Asian 0.62
Basque 0.61
Volga-Ural 0.40
Amerindian 0.16

Wiborg
12-05-2016, 10:27 AM
My result:

East_Central_Euro 17.85
Central_Euro 11.86
Eastern_Euro 10.98
North_Sea 10.13
Fennoscandian 8.22
Italian 8.17
French 7.99
North_Atlantic 7.17
Iberian 6.97
East_Balkan 4.29
Basque 3.25
North_Caucasian 1.53
Volga-Ural 1.52
Armenian 0.06

Latitude:50.368303573999995
Longitude: 14.100393228000003

Interesting result: Czech, near Prag. Most of my ancestors from the paternal line are from East Germany near Czech border and some from Rosendorf, Austro-Ungarn which is in Czech now. That result fits!


My wife´s result:

Italian 19.16
North_Sea 16.20
Iberian 13.35
French 9.27
Eastern_Euro 9.05
East_Central_Euro 6.98
Fennoscandian 6.83
North_Atlantic 6.58
Central_Euro 4.11
East_Balkan 1.94
Near_Eastern 1.78
West_Med 1.63
West_Caucasian 1.31
South_Central_Asian 1.26
East_Med 0.57

Latitude:46.38683853200001
Longitude: 8.657700894000001

Also interesting result: Hits the Alps in Switzerland. The ancestors from my wife are from South-Germany but it pointed out to an ancestry at Switzerland/Austria. Still work at the paper trail. Also this result fits!


My son´s result:

East_Central_Euro 14.93
Eastern_Euro 13.02
Italian 12.87
North_Sea 12.53
Iberian 10.55
French 9.25
Central_Euro 8.23
Fennoscandian 6.18
North_Atlantic 5.18
East_Balkan 2.39
East_Med 2.23
Basque 1.84
West_Med 0.69
North_Caucasian 0.11

Latitude: 47.90943108799998
Longitude:12.296468063999992

Fitting result again: Hits near Munich which is the almost middle between the locations of me and my wife.

Mixed
12-05-2016, 11:39 AM
I know for certain I have Italian, Slavic, German, Finnish, French, Greek, and U.K.

Population
Amerindian 0.23
Arabian 2.41
Armenian 0.94
Basque 0.82
Central_Euro 3.78
East_Balkan 3.80
East_Central_Euro 10.58
East_Med 4.79
Eastern_Euro 2.74
Fennoscandian 7.02
French 1.57
Iberian 11.03
Italian 15.31
North_African 0.52
North_Atlantic 9.09
North_Caucasian 3.33
North_Sea 17.62
South_Asian 0.52
Volga-Ural 1.67
West_Caucasian 0.32
West_Med 1.91

hakonn
12-05-2016, 12:06 PM
East_Med 10.31
East_Central_Euro 9.92
Italian 8.93
North_Atlantic 7.24
East_Balkan 6.66
North_Sea 6.65
North_Caucasian 6.11
Armenian 5.57
Near_Eastern 5.09
Eastern_Euro 4.59
Fennoscandian 4.51
Central_Euro 4.48
West_Med 3.72
West_Caucasian 3.92
Iberian 2.34
French 2.51
Siberian 1.97
Arabian 1.67
East_Central_Asian 1.01
South_Chinese 1.00
South_Central_Asian 0.62
Basque 0.61
Volga-Ural 0.40
Amerindian 0.16


Are you from Bulgaria? 5 percent Fennoscandian is a lot actually. MY granddad is from there and my scores are,

East_Med 19.78
North_Caucasian 16.77
Near_Eastern 13.43
South_Central_Asian 9.65
Italian 9.02
West_Caucasian 7.68
Armenian 5.17
North_Sea 3.89
East_Central_Euro 2.82
French 2.79
Iberian 1.44
Central_Euro 1.38
East_Balkan 1.19
Fennoscandian 1.04

Tomris
12-05-2016, 01:00 PM
Are you from Bulgaria? 5 percent Fennoscandian is a lot actually. MY granddad is from there and my scores are,

East_Med 19.78
North_Caucasian 16.77
Near_Eastern 13.43
South_Central_Asian 9.65
Italian 9.02
West_Caucasian 7.68
Armenian 5.17
North_Sea 3.89
East_Central_Euro 2.82
French 2.79
Iberian 1.44
Central_Euro 1.38
East_Balkan 1.19
Fennoscandian 1.04

My grandmother's parents were Bulgaria Turks.My grandfather was a Pomak. :)

hakonn
12-05-2016, 07:14 PM
But your all family is from Bulgaria that is why your Fennoscandain is so high. My only one grandparent is Bulgarian Turk. That is why i am 1 percent. Probably my grandad has 4-5 percent like you and i got 1 of it. My other ancestors are Anatolian Turk. Genetics is quite clear and obvious.

kingjohn
12-17-2016, 05:28 PM
i hope i did this ok :\
east of crete and the island of karpathos :)
13102
regards
adam

wombatofthenorth
12-17-2016, 11:45 PM
I created a page allowing to locate you on a map from your K36 results, but only for Europeans.

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm

Eurogenes K36 looks the best calculator to do this.
It is based on modern populations and has the advantage of having many components.
Most of old non-European components (like Caucasian, West-Asian, Gedrosian ect..), whose distribution in the European population is multi-factorial, are replaced by European components, geographically located.


not too bad, looks like it tends to go 75 miles too far east (it seems almost everything always goes too far east though)
maybe about 50+ miles too south

considering the size of Eurasia that's kinda pretty disappointing, I should think precision to within a mile or two if not meters, should have been possible ;)

kingjohn
12-18-2016, 01:15 PM
if that is the case than
i am landing in samaras land{crete} :)
how do you know that ?
best regards
adam

Tomenable
04-17-2017, 09:34 PM
I created a page allowing to locate you on a map from your K36 results, but only for Europeans.

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm

Eurogenes K36 looks the best calculator to do this.
It is based on modern populations and has the advantage of having many components.
Most of old non-European components (like Caucasian, West-Asian, Gedrosian ect..), whose distribution in the European population is multi-factorial, are replaced by European components, geographically located.

How Greeks plot using your tool: http://i.imgur.com/s5JUtDy.png

http://i.imgur.com/s5JUtDy.png

fished
04-18-2017, 10:17 PM
My plot. Looks like I'm swimming towards Rome:

15336

Ashkenazi:

15337

Portuguese from Madeira:

15338

I ran a Sicilian's results and a Calabrian's results as well, but they both seemed very "off". Both were plotting off the Mediterranean coast of Egypt. I think that this tool is probably most accurate for Northwest Europeans, not so much for Southeast Europeans.

Jessie
04-19-2017, 02:55 AM
I get Skipsea in Yorkshire on Tolan's tool.

Southfield Ln, Driffield YO25 8TX, UK

15342

Aha
05-20-2017, 09:20 AM
I am native to Kyiv area, northern Ukraine



East_Central_Euro
28.01


Fennoscandian
13.5


Eastern_Euro
12.81


North_Atlantic
9.9


North_Sea
6.72


Central_Euro
5.69


East_Balkan
4.39


North_Caucasian
3.74


French
3.7


Iberian
3.46


South_Central_Asian
2.6


Volga-Ural
2.31


Italian
2.29


Northeast_African
0.7


East_African
0.16


West_Med
-


West_Caucasian
-


West_African
-


South_Chinese
-


South_Asian
-


Siberian
-


Pygmy
-


Omotic
-


Oceanian
-


North_African
-


Near_Eastern
-


Malayan
-


Indo-Chinese
-


East_Med
-


East_Central_Asian
-


East_Asian
-


Central_African
-


Basque
-


Armenian
-


Arabian
-


Amerindian
-




http://i.imgur.com/SEib7Sz.jpg

Dibran
05-20-2017, 03:49 PM
How Greeks plot using your tool: http://i.imgur.com/s5JUtDy.png

http://i.imgur.com/s5JUtDy.png

And Albanians. I was off the coast of Spain right in the water.

Dibran
05-20-2017, 08:43 PM
And Albanians. I was off the coast of Spain right in the water.

Not Spain. Typo. In the water far south of Greece and north of Africa. I will post me and my father shortly. But it's obviously not accurate to European. Not southeastern Europeans anyways.

Dibran
05-20-2017, 08:53 PM
How Greeks plot using your tool: http://i.imgur.com/s5JUtDy.png

http://i.imgur.com/s5JUtDy.png

How Albanians plot(me and my father)

Me:

16194


My Father:

16195

kingjohn
06-24-2017, 04:25 AM
my brother k36

he score some Finnish here 2.8 % while i score 0% Finnish so i believe the Finnish signatures noticed by dna tribes are real :)
he also score 5.5% french
while i only score 0.5% that's inline with the 8 %west central euro he got on my origins 2.0
so he got some Gauls genes that i don't . :)


Population
Amerindian 0.20
Arabian 4.30
Armenian 4.65
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.29
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.83
East_Med 15.60
Eastern_Euro 1.82
Fennoscandian 2.81
French 5.55 Gaul land
Iberian 13.12
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.82
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 12.53
North_African 1.91
North_Atlantic 0.29
North_Caucasian 8.48
North_Sea -
Northeast_African 0.37
Oceanian 0.23
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.47
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.98
West_Med 3.76

Saba123
06-24-2017, 05:33 AM
http://i.imgur.com/5qcTiE5.png
I am honestly amazed by how accurate that tool was. I really was not expected that.

lukaszM
06-24-2017, 07:59 AM
How Albanians plot(me and my father)

Me:

16194


My Father:

16195

Dibranites from the lost land:)

NewAlbion
06-24-2017, 10:34 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/naudiz/mymap_zps8txbtke0.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/naudiz/media/mymap_zps8txbtke0.png.html)


I dunno, I doubt my ethnic mix is closest to south England while I do have substantial English ancestry my paper trail says more Irish which would suggest maybe Scotland or Ulster Ireland but I am not sure.

Dibran
06-24-2017, 03:53 PM
Dibranites from the lost land:)

Hahahaha. The people of Bikini Bottom. Im sure they will refine these algorithms over time.

Dibran
06-24-2017, 03:57 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/naudiz/mymap_zps8txbtke0.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/naudiz/media/mymap_zps8txbtke0.png.html)


I dunno, I doubt my ethnic mix is closest to south England while I do have substantial English ancestry my paper trail says more Irish which would suggest maybe Scotland or Ulster Ireland but I am not sure.

I doubt that it is an exact science. I mean, me and my father are plotted in the water. Him towards Crete, and me a bit further south west.

The Illyrian Warrior
06-28-2017, 12:51 PM
http://i68.tinypic.com/i3dgjs.jpg

Flavio
06-28-2017, 01:28 PM
In my case don't have sense, I come from Swiss Italian 65% and Caserta (South Italy) 35%, this is my results, but mi position has not sense for my.

17259 17260

But I do not understand where I might have been wrong, these are my values ​​with Eurogenes K36:

17261

Someone could help me understand please.

Flavio
06-28-2017, 02:06 PM
This is a sample of High Lombardy, from all calculators he is closer to the Bergamaschi samples, I to the Toscans samples, I personally do not seem so precise.

17262 17263

Some example for my oracle of some gedmatch calculators, genetically I'm sure mostly closed with Tuscans.

17264

The Illyrian Warrior
06-28-2017, 04:06 PM
I doubt that it is an exact science. I mean, me and my father are plotted in the water. Him towards Crete, and me a bit further south west.

You are aware that you don't take all genes from father but you inherit genes randomly from many generations hence why you differ in position and component values.

This is sort of like pca map but with real map in it, makes not much sense if you look on it too literally.

Dibran
06-28-2017, 06:16 PM
You are aware that you don't take all genes from father but you inherit genes randomly from many generations hence why you differ in position and component values.

This is sort of like pca map but with real map in it, makes not much sense if you look on it too literally.


I know this. People treat it like it's a literal gps. I was making the point.

Rach_27
06-29-2017, 12:03 AM
My heritage on paper is half British half Christian Palestinian. My K36 results are:

Arabian 8.21
Armenian 4.56
Basque 0.47
Central_Euro 4.63
East_Med 8.93
Fennoscandian 6.06
French 1.03
Iberian 13.67
Italian 13.74
Near_Eastern 13.37
North_Atlantic 8.13
North_Caucasian 6.30
North_Sea 8.99
South_Central_Asian 0.48
West_Med 1.44

punk_knitter
06-30-2017, 04:45 PM
I am supposedly German/English and Swedish/English, but there is very little family knowledge and even fewer relatives to ask. 23andme says that I am almost 6% Ashkenazi Jewish. I seem to have some unaccounted for Eastern European and Eastern Balkan that is definitely unaccounted for.

Population
Armenian 0.77
Basque 1.40
Central_Euro 7.37
East_Balkan 3.52
East_Central_Euro 7.82
Eastern_Euro 5.52
Fennoscandian 6.80
French 8.50
Iberian 17.31
Italian 10.79
North_Atlantic 15.88
North_Caucasian 0.83
North_Sea 11.63
Volga-Ural 0.56
West_Caucasian 0.93
West_Med 0.33

ianz91
07-15-2017, 03:42 AM
Basque 2.06
Central_Euro 7.83
East_Balkan 5.06
East_Central_Euro 7.92
East_Med 1.06
Eastern_Euro 6.35
Fennoscandian 8.93
French 7.00
Iberian 18.59
Italian 9.06
North_Atlantic 13.54
North_Sea 10.86
West_Med 1.73


What's interesting is that this shows a strong Iberian heritage, what I'm wondering if this is legit recent Spanish ancestry or something left over from ancient times.

sweuro
07-15-2017, 11:35 AM
Basque 2.06
Central_Euro 7.83
East_Balkan 5.06
East_Central_Euro 7.92
East_Med 1.06
Eastern_Euro 6.35
Fennoscandian 8.93
French 7.00
Iberian 18.59
Italian 9.06
North_Atlantic 13.54
North_Sea 10.86
West_Med 1.73


What's interesting is that this shows a strong Iberian heritage, what I'm wondering if this is legit recent Spanish ancestry or something left over from ancient times.
Are you of french ancestry ? In that case, french also score high iberian

ianz91
07-16-2017, 01:55 AM
Are you of french ancestry ? In that case, french also score high iberian


I honestly have no idea, I wish I knew. Here are my results from multiple dna test companies. I have some definitive southern euro heritage, but not sure what ethnic group it is.

MyHeritageDNA

17573

AncestryDNA

17574

23andme

17575

Elizabeth
07-20-2017, 02:25 AM
I'm an American of British Isles, NW European and Eastern European ancestry

Here are my K36 based on my 23andMe v2 test:


24.16% North_Sea

11.00% Iberian

10.55% Fennoscandian

7.45% East_Central_Euro

6.76% French

6.16% Italian

6.11% Eastern_Euro

5.95% North_Caucasian

5.25% North_Atlantic

5.14% East_Balkan

3.60% West_Med

3.60% Central_Euro

3.21% Basque

0.68% Omotic

0.29% Oceanian

0.07% Armenian

JGG
07-20-2017, 01:08 PM
I am a Cuban of Spanish, mostly Canary I. ancestry. Here's my Eurogenes K36:

Amerindian 1.59
Arabian 1.72
Armenian 0.79
Basque 2.51
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.82
East_African 1.43
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.02
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.43
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 1.04
Fennoscandian 5.08
French 4.69
Iberian 31.07
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.52
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.67
North_African 6.84
North_Atlantic 6.24
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 3.87
Northeast_African 1.10
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.29-
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 3.28

I don't know why so much Italian and Balkan?

alexfritz
07-22-2017, 02:04 AM
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 2.05
Basque 2.99
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.22
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.80
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 7.21
Eastern_Euro 5.61
Fennoscandian 5.81
French 3.47
Iberian 13.00
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 25.25
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 8.13
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 9.72
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.24
West_Med 7.50

good calculator, but find the V2 K15 to be more informative;

misanthropy
07-22-2017, 06:17 AM
I am Indian (South on one side with a Yemeni ancestor and primarily North on the other side).

Amerindian 0.42
Arabian 3.18
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian 1.15
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan 0.68
Near_Eastern 0.64
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 3.71
North_Sea -
Northeast_African 2.67
Oceanian 0.59
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 0.77
South_Asian 61.73
South_Central_Asian 22.58
South_Chinese 0.22
Volga-Ural 1.50
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.06
West_Med -

lukaszM
07-22-2017, 11:00 AM
I am a Cuban of Spanish, mostly Canary I. ancestry. Here's my Eurogenes K36:

Amerindian 1.59
Arabian 1.72
Armenian 0.79
Basque 2.51
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.82
East_African 1.43
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.02
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.43
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 1.04
Fennoscandian 5.08
French 4.69
Iberian 31.07
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.52
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.67
North_African 6.84
North_Atlantic 6.24
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 3.87
Northeast_African 1.10
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.29-
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 3.28

I don't know why so much Italian and Balkan?

Interesting case. I checked you in "unofficial" K36 oracle http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10347-(Unofficial)-oracle-for-Eurogenes-K36-256-reference-populations

Indeed some Canarian ancestry detected. Puerto_Rico here is proxy for Cuba obviously.



Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Portugal @ 5,973836
2 Spain_Canarians @ 6,456789
3 Spain_average @ 6,922997
4 Spain_Catalan @ 7,22954
5 Spain_Valencia @ 7,448701
6 White_Mexicans @ 7,53818
7 Puerto_Rico @ 7,729855
8 Asturia @ 7,745289
9 Spain_Galicia @ 7,874004
10 Argentina @ 8,160608
11 Spain_Andalusia @ 8,188205
12 Chile_Castizo @ 8,230871
13 Colombia @ 8,605987
14 Dominicana @ 8,786406
15 Castizo_Mexicans @ 9,03947
16 CostaRica @ 10,54712
17 IT_Friuli @ 10,586023
18 Spain_Centabria @ 10,634702
19 Honduras-Nicaragua @ 10,726287
20 Spain_La-Rioja @ 10,806336
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Portugal+Spain_Cantabria @ 5,893559
2 Portugal+Portugal @ 5,973836
3 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Cantabria @ 6,002362
4 Portugal+Spain_Catalan @ 6,098017
5 Portugal+Spain_average @ 6,115515
6 Portugal+Spain_Valencia @ 6,133241
7 Portugal+Spain_Canarians @ 6,182697
8 Portugal+Asturia @ 6,19655
9 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Catalan @ 6,241345
10 Portugal+France_South @ 6,249483
11 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Valencia @ 6,255422
12 Spain_Canarians+Spain_average @ 6,280669
13 Spain_Canarians+Asturia @ 6,338283
14 Spain_Canarians+France_South @ 6,412615
15 Asturia+Puerto_Rico @ 6,438495
16 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Canarians @ 6,456789
17 Spain_Cantabria+Puerto_Rico @ 6,46671
18 Portugal+Spain_Andalusia @ 6,491662
19 Asturia+White_Mexicans @ 6,528531
20 Spain_Cantabria+White_Mexicans @ 6,543677
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Asturia +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,818955
2 50% Asturia +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Venezuelan @ 5,829224
3 50% Asturia +25% Asturia +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,848503
4 50% Portugal +25% Portugal +25% Spain_Centabria @ 5,85509
5 50% Asturia +25% Portugal +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,859756
6 50% Asturia +25% France_South +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,8768
7 50% Asturia +25% France_Central +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,878091
8 50% Portugal +25% Spain_Centabria +25% Spain_Centabria @ 5,893559
9 50% Spain_Centabria +25% Portugal +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,898379
10 50% Asturia +25% Spain_Centabria +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,903001
11 50% Portugal +25% Spain_Centabria +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,905682
12 50% Spain_Centabria +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,905895
13 50% Asturia +25% Spain_average +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,906084
14 50% Spain_Centabria +25% Portugal +25% Spain_Canarians @ 5,9217
15 50% Portugal +25% Spain_Centabria +25% White_Mexicans @ 5,922393
16 50% Portugal +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Spain_Centabria @ 5,924573
17 50% Portugal +25% Asturia +25% Puerto_Rico @ 5,92491
18 50% Asturia +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Dominicana @ 5,929446
19 50% Portugal +25% Asturia +25% White_Mexicans @ 5,941409







Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spain_average @ 9,570892
2 Asturia @ 9,732267
3 Spain_Galicia @ 10,275278
4 Portugal @ 10,430743
5 Spain_Andalusia @ 10,497344
6 Spain_Valencia @ 11,311235
7 Spain_Catalan @ 12,347223
8 Spain_Canarians @ 12,415585
9 Spain_Cantabria @ 12,63597
10 Spain_Aragon @ 13,877942
11 France_South @ 14,711944
12 France @ 17,248963
13 Spain_La-Rioja @ 17,949105
14 White_Mexicans @ 18,019672
15 France_Central @ 18,166939
16 IT_Piedmont @ 18,257939
17 IT_Aosta @ 19,227837
18 Puerto_Rico @ 19,369104
19 Swiss_Italian @ 20,338914
20 IT_North @ 20,673404
337 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Portugal+Asturia @ 9,339495
2 Spain_average+Asturia @ 9,411241
3 Portugal+Spain_average @ 9,451831
4 Spain_Galicia+Asturia @ 9,55299
5 Spain_Canarians+Asturia @ 9,555593
6 Spain_average+Spain_average @ 9,570892
7 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Centabria @ 9,61609
8 Portugal+Spain_Centabria @ 9,667476
9 Asturia+Asturia @ 9,732267
10 Spain_average+Spain_Galicia @ 9,740258
11 Spain_Andalusia+Asturia @ 9,838674
12 Portugal+Spain_Galicia @ 9,87225
13 Spain_Canarians+Spain_average @ 9,918537
14 Portugal+Spain_Andalusia @ 9,92201
15 Spain_average+Spain_Andalusia @ 9,94808
16 Spain_Galicia+Spain_Andalusia @ 10,196415
17 Portugal+Spain_Valencia @ 10,229672
18 Spain_Galicia+Spain_Galicia @ 10,275278
19 Spain_average+Spain_Valencia @ 10,283889
20 Spain_Valencia+Asturia @ 10,340811
56953 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Asturia +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Spain_average @ 9,155117
2 50% Spain_Centabria +25% Tunisia +25% Asturia @ 9,185629
3 50% Asturia +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Asturia @ 9,205029
4 50% Asturia +25% Portugal +25% Spain_average @ 9,229453
5 50% Spain_average +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Asturia @ 9,230048
6 50% Spain_average +25% Portugal +25% Asturia @ 9,236945
7 50% Asturia +25% Portugal +25% Spain_Canarians @ 9,262982
8 50% Asturia +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Spain_Galicia @ 9,276335
9 50% Asturia +25% Tunisia +25% Spain_Centabria @ 9,285967
10 50% Spain_Centabria +25% Tunisia +25% Spain_Valencia @ 9,28687
11 50% Asturia +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Spain_Centabria @ 9,300773
12 50% Asturia +25% Portugal +25% Spain_Galicia @ 9,317216
13 50% Spain_Centabria +25% Tunisia +25% Spain_average @ 9,328659
14 50% Portugal +25% Spain_Centabria +25% Asturia @ 9,3287
15 50% Portugal +25% Spain_average +25% Asturia @ 9,334593
16 50% Portugal +25% Asturia +25% Asturia @ 9,339495
17 50% Asturia +25% Spain_average +25% White_Mexicans @ 9,343477
18 50% Asturia +25% Portugal +25% Asturia @ 9,345505
19 50% Spain_Centabria +25% Tunisia +25% Spain_Galicia @ 9,351213
20 50% Spain_average +25% Portugal +25% Spain_average @ 9,367685
13693829 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Spain_Canarians+Spain_average+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,155117
2 Portugal+Spain_Canarians+Spain_Centabria+Asturia @ 9,183288
3 Tunisia+Spain_Centabria+Spain_Centabria+Asturia @ 9,185629
4 Spain_Canarians+Asturia+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,205029
5 Portugal+Spain_average+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,229453
6 Spain_Canarians+Spain_average+Spain_average+Asturi a @ 9,230048
7 Portugal+Spain_average+Spain_average+Asturia @ 9,236945
8 Portugal+Spain_Canarians+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,262982
9 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Galicia+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,276335
10 Tunisia+Spain_Centabria+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,285967
11 Tunisia+Spain_Centabria+Spain_Centabria+Spain_Vale ncia @ 9,28687
12 Portugal+Spain_Canarians+Spain_Centabria+Spain_ave rage @ 9,300696
13 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Centabria+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,300773
14 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Centabria+Spain_average+Astu ria @ 9,306471
15 Portugal+Spain_Galicia+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,317216
16 Portugal+Spain_Canarians+Spain_average+Asturia @ 9,324729
17 Tunisia+Spain_Centabria+Spain_Centabria+Spain_aver age @ 9,328659
18 Portugal+Portugal+Spain_Centabria+Asturia @ 9,3287
19 Portugal+Spain_average+Spain_Galicia+Asturia @ 9,332443
20 Portugal+Portugal+Spain_average+Asturia @ 9,334593
21 Portugal+Portugal+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,339495
22 Spain_average+Asturia+Asturia+White_Mexicans @ 9,343477
23 Portugal+Asturia+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,345505
24 Tunisia+Spain_Centabria+Spain_Centabria+Spain_Gali cia @ 9,351213
25 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Centabria+Spain_Galicia+Astu ria @ 9,356939
26 Spain_Canarians+Spain_average+Spain_Galicia+Asturi a @ 9,358079
27 Portugal+Spain_average+Spain_average+Spain_average @ 9,367685
28 Tunisia+Spain_Centabria+Spain_average+Asturia @ 9,373091
29 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Andalusia+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,373211
30 Asturia+Asturia+Asturia+White_Mexicans @ 9,37504
31 Tunisia+Spain_Centabria+Spain_Valencia+Asturia @ 9,375089
32 Portugal+Spain_Centabria+Asturia+White_Mexicans @ 9,376615
33 Portugal+Portugal+Spain_Centabria+Spain_average @ 9,378461
34 Spain_Centabria+Asturia+Asturia+White_Mexicans @ 9,389367
35 Spain_Canarians+Spain_Canarians+Spain_Centabria+As turia @ 9,411205
36 Spain_average+Spain_average+Asturia+Asturia @ 9,411241
37 Spain_Centabria+Spain_average+Asturia+White_Mexica ns @ 9,412323
38 Portugal+Spain_Canarians+Spain_Centabria+Spain_Gal icia @ 9,42358
39 Spain_Canarians+Spain_average+Spain_average+Spain_ average @ 9,426846
40 Spain_average+Spain_average+Spain_average+Asturia @ 9,430785
310431765 iterations.