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Kurd
01-20-2015, 12:25 AM
This plot is for visualizing S. Asian and W. Asian components in various Asian populations, and where some members fit in. I chose Eurogenes K13 mainly because of the availability of the populations spreadsheet, and because it appeared to accurately depict admixture. David defines S. Asian as S. Indian on his Eurogenes blog. I was not able to see where he had defined W. Asian, however, from scanning the spreadsheet, Abkhanasians, Georgians, and Baloch were modeled with the highest percentage ~54%. I am not sure whether IR-1 and MA-1 are ancestral or zombies.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah42/dil88888/K13_population_averagesampPLOT_zpsaa68955e.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/dil88888/media/K13_population_averagesampPLOT_zpsaa68955e.jpg.htm l)

EDIT: ZARAFSHAAN is Iranian Baloch.

Sapporo
01-20-2015, 12:46 AM
Pretty cool plot. The only problem with the South Asian component here is that it is so heavily West Eurasian admixed. Even more so than HarappaWorld. Is it possible to do a West Eurasia K8 plot with Near Eastern, ANE & South Eurasian?

Also, you should add Pakistani Pashtuns (Pathans).

Kurd
01-20-2015, 01:02 AM
Pretty cool plot. The only problem with the South Asian component here is that it is so heavily West Eurasian admixed. Even more so than HarappaWorld. Is it possible to do a West Eurasia K8 plot with Near Eastern, ANE & South Eurasian?

Also, you should add Pakistani Pashtuns (Pathans).

I will try to add them on my next run within the next couple of days. I have 2 K8 plots posted, one is S. Eurasian vs WHG, the other is NE vs ANE.

Sapporo
01-20-2015, 01:19 AM
I will try to add them on my next run within the next couple of days. I have 2 K8 plots posted, one is S. Eurasian vs WHG, the other is NE vs ANE.

I see. Not possible to do a 3 dimensional plot with NE , ANE & S. Eurasian? I think that would be very useful for South and Central Asians and lesser extent Iranians.

Kurd
01-20-2015, 01:30 AM
I see. Not possible to do a 3 dimensional plot with NE , ANE & S. Eurasian? I think that would be very useful for South and Central Asians and lesser extent Iranians.

I agree that a 3D plot would be quite informative. However, it is one thing for me to do one on my computer, where I can rotate it and view it from various angles, and it is a different matter to upload it, and share it. I would not know if that is even possible. Also, I do not have access to 3D drawing software any more.

parasar
01-20-2015, 01:35 AM
This plot is for visualizing S. Asian and W. Asian components in various Asian populations, and where some members fit in. I chose Eurogenes K13 mainly because of the availability of the populations spreadsheet, and because it appeared to accurately depict admixture. David defines S. Asian as S. Indian on his Eurogenes blog. I was not able to see where he had defined W. Asian, however, from scanning the spreadsheet, Abkhanasians, Georgians, and Baloch were modeled with the highest percentage ~54%. I am not sure whether IR-1 and MA-1 are ancestral or zombies.



I think his West Asian has to have some kind of a South Asian too, perhaps it is Caucasus-Gedrosia like based on the peak in Baloch/Caucasus. This looks likely as MA1 has 10% of it.

Kurd
01-20-2015, 01:54 AM
Excellent point! I was kind of baffled about that. I understood the high percentage in Georgians, but was not able to comprehend why only Baloch had that much from S. Asians.

Kurd
01-21-2015, 01:53 AM
Here is the revised plot with additional members included. I have also added a few Baloch and S. Central coastal Iran individuals. Recognizing that the legend may be hard to read to the limitations on uploads, I have provided a link to a higher resolution plot, for members wishing to print it, or to zoom in to the graphic. http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/dil88888/media/K13_population_averagesPLOT_zps9e5451ed.jpg.html

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah42/dil88888/K13_population_averagesPLOTsmall_zps2913ec88.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/dil88888/media/K13_population_averagesPLOTsmall_zps2913ec88.jpg.h tml)

ZARAFSHAAN, BALOCH1, BALOCH2 - Baloch from Iran
LENGHI - Individual from Bandar Lenghi, Iran (SC Coastal)
BUSHEHRI- Individual from Bushehr, Iran (SC Coastal)
QESHMI - Individual from Qeshm, Iran (SC Coastal)

EDIT: I believe MA-1 is ancestral "Malta boy" 24 ky remains from SC Siberia (E Eurasian), and
IR-1 is ancestral, 2.7ky remains from Hungary, Y DNA-N

Kurd
01-21-2015, 03:30 AM
The following is a table of East Eurasian admixture of the various population and members, which were included in the plot. I am defining E. Eurasian as the sum of E. Asian, Siberian, Amerindian, and Oceanian. I included Oceanian, based on Dr. McNinja's post at http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3663-Post-your-West-Eurasia-K8-results/page36, outlining his discussion of Oceanian with David W. of Eurogenes. Not being able to tell which member would be classified as S. Indian, I included the Oceanian component in all populations and members.



POPULATION

EAST EURASIAN











1

MA-1



[FONT=Calibri]28.6


2

Afghan_Tadjik



20.0


3

Burusho



13.8


4

Kumyk



7.1


5

Afghan_Pashtun



7.1


6

KENJI ARYAN



7.0


7

Turkish



6.9


8

SEIN



6.8


9

Azeri



6.3


10

RUKHA



5.7


11

KANDHARI DURRANI



4.9


12

Brahmin_UP



4.1


13

Kalash



3.4


14

KURD



3.1


15

SAPPORO



3.1


16

MONKEYDLUFFY



3.1


17

Gujarati



2.8


18

Sindhi



2.6


19

KURD DAUGHTER



2.5


20

NK19191



2.4


21

VARUN



2.4


22

Kurdish



2.1


23

Punjabi_Jat



2.1


24

JESUS



2.1


25

Iranian



1.9


26

IR1



1.7


27

Jordanian



1.7


28

Georgian



1.6


29

Bedouin



1.4


30

Greek_Thessaly



1.3


31

LENGHI



1.3


32

Assyrian



1.2


33

ZEPHYROUS



1.1


34

Italian_Abruzzo



1.1


35

Armenian



1.0


36

Lebanese_Muslim



0.9


37

Makrani



0.9


38

Balochi



0.8


39

ZARAFSHAAN



0.0


40

IRAQ MANDEAN1



0.0


41

IRAQ MANDEAN2



0.0


42

IRAQ MANDEAN3



0.0


43

BALOCH 1



0.0


44

BALOCH 2



0.0


45

BUSHEHRI



0.0


46

QESHMI



0.0

MonkeyDLuffy
01-21-2015, 04:12 AM
Hey kurd, where do i stand on the graph? Thanks

Kurd
01-21-2015, 04:26 AM
Hey kurd, where do i stand on the graph? Thanks

Under Kenji's icon. That is why I was not able to include you.

EDIT: Ill try to shift him a little tomorrow to make room for you

MonkeyDLuffy
01-21-2015, 04:45 AM
I see, but kenji has more east eurasian than me on the list you posted, and our results are little different, so why we are on same position? Sorry I am new to this stuff. Thanks

Kurd
01-21-2015, 05:16 AM
I see, but kenji has more east eurasian than me on the list you posted, and our results are little different, so why we are on same position? Sorry I am new to this stuff. Thanks

Your S Asian and W Asian are very similar. That is what is plotted. Ill move him a little when I do another run in a couple of days, and add you in.

MonkeyDLuffy
01-21-2015, 05:17 AM
Oh alright, now I understand. Thank you