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Wulf Warrior
02-06-2015, 10:58 AM
It's about time too!


We have been experiencing some technical issues which may have limited your access to AncestryDNA. To apologise for any inconvenience caused we are offering you a 10% discount when you purchase an AncestryDNA kit. This offer is for a limited time only.

Enhance your Ancestry experience today by revealing your ethnic mix from the past 500–1,000 years, and discover distant relatives you never even knew existed.


I received an email about a 10% discount due to some previous errors occurring? But are sorted now, but I never even knew it was available before!
Anyhow, I've ordered the AncestryDNA, so I'll be posting the results here when they are in :).

ADW_1981
02-06-2015, 05:24 PM
It's about time too!



I received an email about a 10% discount due to some previous errors occurring? But are sorted now, but I never even knew it was available before!
Anyhow, I've ordered the AncestryDNA, so I'll be posting the results here when they are in :).

How were you able to order outside of USA?

Stephen1986
02-06-2015, 08:29 PM
The test is now available in the UK. I'm still considering whether to buy it or not, I probably will at some point.

Anglecynn
02-06-2015, 09:16 PM
Might get it at some point when i have the money, seems like it could be useful genealogically as well.

Wulf Warrior
02-06-2015, 09:47 PM
How were you able to order outside of USA?

It's now available form UK folk to order, I'm not sure how long that has been the case. I never received an email about it other than this discount promotion. It is about time though!

Wulf Warrior
02-10-2015, 09:30 PM
DNA test kit activated, sampled and sent!

Now we wait...

Scarlet Ibis
02-10-2015, 09:46 PM
The genealogical angle is really its strongest point, imo, so if you're into the whole paper-tracing genealogy thing, I'd highly recommend it. 23andme, and FTDNA both have family tree features, but they seem rather cumbersome. Ancestry.com's tree format is more user-friendly, and since Ancestry.com is a records depot of sorts, one major advantage of having a tree on there is that one can simply reference/attach the records on their tree from the same site. I love it. When I get in contact with relatives on other sites, we usually refer each other to our Ancestry.com trees, anyway.

I'm glad to see them offering the product across the Atlantic now. Will be nice to see the new people who will pop up in my relatives list, and to hopefully confirm some Old World tree connections. I really hope they also consider marketing outside of the UK and Ireland.

Wulf Warrior
02-25-2015, 11:59 AM
Quick update,

They'e recieved my sample and it's gone under Lab processing. 6 - 8 week waiting time! Although I've seen a few posts from people saying it's taken way longer, here's hoping it doesn't!

Jutlander
03-12-2015, 04:03 PM
I just got my Ancestry DNA uk results today, i would say the Ethnic breakdown is a lot better than that of 23andme and has more specific information connected with it. Unfortunately my list of cousins is quite small, but maybe that is because it was only recently available in the uk again and a lot of peoples results are not in yet. Also the ones i have are mainly in the US which is a real pain the rear when it comes to working of family trees.

Wulf Warrior
03-12-2015, 05:32 PM
I just got my Ancestry DNA uk results today, i would say the Ethnic breakdown is a lot better than that of 23andme and has more specific information connected with it. Unfortunately my list of cousins is quite small, but maybe that is because it was only recently available in the uk again and a lot of peoples results are not in yet. Also the ones i have are mainly in the US which is a real pain the rear when it comes to working of family trees.

Hey Jutlander,
Would you mind posting your results?

How long ago did you send you kit in?

Thanks for commenting!

Jutlander
03-13-2015, 10:07 AM
From being sent to getting to the processing stage and then the final results it was about 5 weeks. I used 23andme as well and i seem to have some sort of issue now with how the Ethnic breakdown has been judged. Also my raw data used from both on admixtures say different things. I would of thought that the raw data was the same, but i guess its how they present the information.

Ancestry Breakdown

4038

23andme Breakdown

4039

23andme seems to twin British and Irish together at 62.7 percent, and leaves 24 percent as a separate Northern European area, however Ancestry gives it in terms of 63 percent British, which i assume its leaves as Germanic British and Irish seperate 24 percent. Some is right but i don't know who.

Wulf Warrior
03-13-2015, 10:53 AM
That's very interesting!
Now I'm excited to see my results, and to compare them with my 23andMe results.

Are you using speculative mode for 23andMe?

What does 'trace' regions mean?

Jutlander
03-13-2015, 11:10 AM
Yes, Speculative mode seems to be the only mode where it at least has the balls to try and breakdown regions further. Trace regions seems to be where you have traces of further back but are not big enough to be certain.

Ancestry seems quite limited on what information you get in your general autosomal DNA compared to 23. Ancestry will give the breakdown and the ancestors and the circles, which i have none anyway, but it wont mention any Y-DNA or MtDNA groups. Plus you get some matches who have their trees locked, which makes me wonder why they bother in the first place. They are making Ancestry research harder.

Wulf Warrior
03-13-2015, 11:20 AM
That's true about speculative mode, I get a little Southern Euro in there aswell.

Hopefully Ancestry reports my East Euro accurately. 23andMe limits it to 1.8% in speculative and or 10% nonspecific European in standard, FTDNA lumps into Western and central europe and Nat Geno doesn't detail their breakdowns that well at all.

Cheers Jutlander ;)

Jutlander
03-13-2015, 11:43 AM
Obviously its still at fault because, Great Britain is a union of the Islands groups not an actual Ethnic group. The Celtic Brethonic west is clearly definable from the Germanic center and East so i makes me wonder why they cant account for this. The two groups are easily told apart by genetics unless someone is completely mixed. Hopefully down the line some company will sort all this out and stand apart from the rest.

Wulf Warrior
03-20-2015, 09:53 PM
Results are in!

4102

REGIONAPPROXIMATE AMOUNT
Asia < 1%
Trace Regions < 1%

Europe 99%
Europe West 47%
Great Britain 29%
Scandinavia 12%
Ireland 9%

Trace Regions 2%
Europe East 2%

Here's the population descriptions.

Europe West

Primarily located in: Belgium, France, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein

Also found in: England, Denmark, Italy, Slovenia, Czech Republic

The Europe West region is a broad expanse stretching from Amsterdam's sea-level metropolis to the majestic peaks of the Alps. Geographically dominated by France in the west and Germany in the east, it includes several nations with distinct cultural identities. From the boisterous beer gardens of Munich to the sun-soaked vineyards of Bordeaux and the alpine dairy farms of Switzerland, it is a region of charming cultural diversity.

Great Britain

Primarily located in: England, Scotland, Wales

Also found in: Ireland, France, Germany, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria, Italy

The history of Great Britain is often told in terms of the invasions with different groups of invaders displacing the native population. The Romans, Anglo-Saxon, Vikings and Normans have all left their mark on Great Britain both politically and culturally. However, the story of Great Britain is far more complex than the traditional view of invaders displacing existing populations. In fact modern studies of British people tend to suggest the earliest populations continued to exist and adapt and absorb the new arrivals.

Scandinavia

Primarily located in: Sweden, Norway, Denmark

Also found in: Great Britain, France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, the Baltic States, Finland

Scandinavia is perched atop northern Europe, its natives referred to throughout history as “North Men.” Separated from the main European continent by the Baltic Sea, the Scandinavians have historically been renowned seafarers. Their adventures brought them into contact with much of the rest of Europe, sometimes as feared raiders and other times as well-traveled merchants and tradesmen.

Ireland

Primarily located in: Ireland, Wales, Scotland

Also found in: France, England

Ireland is located in the eastern part of the North Atlantic Ocean, directly west of Great Britain. A variety of internal and external influences have shaped Ireland as we know it today. Ireland’s modern cultural remains deeply rooted in the Celtic culture that spread across much of Central Europe and into the British Isles. Along with Wales, Scotland, and a handful of other isolated communities within the British Isles, Ireland remains one of the last holdouts of the ancient Celtic languages that were once spoken throughout much of Western Europe. And though closely tied to Great Britain, both geographically and historically, the Irish have fiercely maintained their unique character through the centuries.

Europe East

Primarily located in: Poland, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Austria, Russia, Hungary, Slovenia, Romania, Serbia, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Lithuania, Latvia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia

Also found in: Germany, Montenegro, Albania, Kosovo, Macedonia, Estonia, Bulgaria

The Europe East region stretches from the Baltic Sea in the north to the borders of Greece in the south. Throughout history, the region has stood at the crossroads—and often in the crosshairs—of Europe and Central Asia. Despite constant invasions and occupations over the centuries, the hardy inhabitants have, nevertheless, managed to persevere.

Scarlet Ibis
03-22-2015, 08:02 AM
How is the Member Match feature working for you? Do you have a lot of matches?

Jutlander
03-22-2015, 03:23 PM
Are your results as much as you were expecting regarding your known ancestry evaluations? Can you tell me how yours compare to 23andme?

Cinnamon orange
03-22-2015, 05:02 PM
I tested at Ancestry recently.
I was surprised to only get 3% Europe West as my maternal side was of German descent on my grandfathers line, a mix of north and south German. My maternal grandmother was mostly northern English, with a smattering of Welsh and Scottish.
My British isles is given as 24%, Scandinavia 13%.

Wulf Warrior
03-24-2015, 08:05 PM
Are your results as much as you were expecting regarding your known ancestry evaluations? Can you tell me how yours compare to 23andme?

I expected the East European to be stronger, if we go by estimates and percentages. I should be roughly 12.5% (great Grandfather)

However, my ancestor had some German ancestry and I only get 10% East European via Davidksi and 23andMe at best.

Here are ALL of my Automosal DNA tests.

23andMe Speculative

99.8%
European

Northern European
41.0%
British & Irish
20.6%
French & German
8.7%
Scandinavian
26.1%
Broadly Northern European
1.8%
Eastern European
Southern European
0.4%
Broadly Southern European
1.3%
Broadly European
0.1%
Middle Eastern & North African
< 0.1%
North African
0.1%
Broadly Middle Eastern & North African
0.1%
Unassigned
100% Me

Geno 2.0 ( not very informative, I know..) doesn't add upto 100% either

45% North European
33% Mediterranea
18% South West Asian

FTDNA

100% European
64% Western and Central Europe
18% British Isles
9% Finland and Northern Siberia
9% Scandianvia

Ancestry DNA

Asia < 1%
Trace Regions < 1%
Asia South< 1%
Europe 99%
Europe West 47%
Great Britain 29%
Scandinavia 12%
Ireland 9%
Trace Regions 2%
Europe East 2%

Wulf Warrior
03-24-2015, 08:13 PM
It seems my East European tends to get lumped somewhere other than actually being East European, which is annoying, depending on how the populations are described.

FTDNA throws it under West and Central Europe,
AncestryDNA has probably done the same,
23andMe lumps it as non-specific, due to the coincidental 10% percentage on Standard ( not shown above )
Nat Geno 2.0 doesn't say anything to be honest.

It's difficult to summarize, I'm not exactly a specialist on the subject.

As far as the tests go in correlation to known ancestry. They are probably accurate.

All my English ancestry is from East England, Midlands to Yorkshire. The Polish ancestor despite being from Warsaw, seems to have more a central European shift as opposed to a more Eastern shift. His DNA pulls me eastwards from England, of course only so far as to North Dutch/Germany.

I'd like too hear opinions of people actually, what do you think?

Wulf Warrior
03-24-2015, 08:18 PM
How is the Member Match feature working for you? Do you have a lot of matches?

It seems to be working well, I have 26 pages of around 50 people per page as DNA matches, that's not too bad!

Jutlander
03-24-2015, 10:28 PM
I have about 12 4th-6th gen matches, but i cant make a single connection to any of them so far. The rest of the matches are leaving me even less chance although i recognise many of the names from Gedmatch.

leonardo
03-27-2015, 10:14 PM
I ordered Ancestry's dna test for me and my mother. The samples were processed starting on March 4th and I received the results yesterday. I have 33 4th cousins or better and 30 pages of matches. My mother has 64 4th cousins or better matches and 36 pages. I have tested with FTDNA and 23andMe, my mother with FTDNA. This test picked up the best my apparent Eastern European and Scandinavian ancestry that seems to capture my unknown paternal grandfather's ancestry (after a number of years of dna testing -autosomal and y dna, my closest matches for my paternal grandfather are coming from Poland - the Baltic portion, Kashubia in particular). Most of my closest matches have family trees, many of which are public. This is helpful. There is no triangulation tool. I would like to see if some of these matches are particular to me, and not my mother (thus to confirm that they are through my father) without looking through her 36 pages of matches. Is there are search option whereby a surname can be entered to determine if it is a match?

leonardo
03-28-2015, 11:49 AM
Silly me. I found a search option. You can search by surname and location. I noticed a number of testers use abbreviations to identify themselves, such as KL. I am not sure, yet, how well those kind of names will search in the surname section.

Jutlander
03-29-2015, 01:48 PM
Wulf Warrior,

i know maybe its not such a super accurate tool but on 23andme did you look at the global similarity map and where i positioned you in general as a representation of where your DNA fits?

Out of all my matches i seem to turn out the furthest East in the Western European area under German and French. Looking at this might work well with compositions on various sites.

Little bit
03-29-2015, 04:04 PM
I noticed a number of testers use abbreviations to identify themselves

Ancestry automatically assigns initials to individuals who's tests are managed by someone else. If you notice, those with initials generally have a parenthesis that says 'administered by XXXXXX.' Because of this, I have labeled my Ancestry Gedmatch kits with the initials they would show up by in DNA results.

Wulf Warrior
03-29-2015, 04:28 PM
Wulf Warrior,

i know maybe its not such a super accurate tool but on 23andme did you look at the global similarity map and where i positioned you in general as a representation of where your DNA fits?

Out of all my matches i seem to turn out the furthest East in the Western European area under German and French. Looking at this might work well with compositions on various sites.


I'm sat between everyone!

So going into the similarity map, World > European > North European, I sit literally next to the Irish, above the French, East to Germans/Norwegians and Orcadians.

Davidski's maps have me plotting with North Germans/Dutch, and McDonald's global map has me between English and Germans.

leonardo
03-29-2015, 06:28 PM
Ancestry automatically assigns initials to individuals who's tests are managed by someone else. If you notice, those with initials generally have a parenthesis that says 'administered by XXXXXX.' Because of this, I have labeled my Ancestry Gedmatch kits with the initials they would show up by in DNA results.

Thanks Lil' Bit. I am administering my mother's account. She is listed on my set of matches by her actual name, perhaps because I do administer her account? So, others will not see her actual name, only her initials (and then the information which says administered by...?). By the way, your mother-in-law is on my match list. You and I have communicated in the past, back in the day when Eurogenes was running the big IBD test.:)

leonardo
03-29-2015, 06:37 PM
My 23andMe is not very ambitious, as has been noted by others before. Even the "speculative mode" plays it safe:

100%
European
Northern European
20.2% British & Irish
14.4% French & German
5.3% Scandinavian
31.4% Broadly Northern European

Southern European
2.1% Italian
2.0% Balkan
7.3% Broadly Southern European

2.9% Eastern European

14.4% Broadly European

< 0.1% Unassigned

Conversely, here is Ancestry's attempt to classify my ethnicity:
Africa < 1%
Trace Regions < 1%
Africa North< 1%
Europe 94%
Europe West34%
Ireland13%
Europe East10%
Great Britain10%
Scandinavia9%
Iberian Peninsula8%
Trace Regions 10%
Finland/Northwest Russia5%
Italy/Greece5%
West Asia 5%
Trace Regions 5%
Caucasus5%

Little bit
03-30-2015, 08:35 PM
She is listed on my set of matches by her actual name, perhaps because I do administer her account? So, others will not see her actual name, only her initials (and then the information which says administered by...?).

Yes, exactly. You see the full name but her matches see her only as her initials, administered by you (your Ancestry profile name.)


By the way, your mother-in-law is on my match list. You and I have communicated in the past, back in the day when Eurogenes was running the big IBD test.

Excellent. She is tested at 23andme, AncestryDNA (you'll see her as A.S.), and FTDNA. So is her son, at AncestryDNA he'd show up as J.F. Let me know if you find any common names or viable prospects for common ancestors. :beerchug:

Baltimore1937
04-05-2015, 03:47 AM
Oh that explains it ^. I was getting annoyed at all the evasiveness with the matches I get.

Stephen1986
04-26-2015, 08:48 PM
I've decided to order AncestryDNA, and have ordered it tonight.

rms2
04-27-2015, 11:43 AM
I've decided to order AncestryDNA, and have ordered it tonight.

I will probably do that eventually, but I just blew the dna testing wad on a Big Y test at the end of March (results due at the end of May), and that was expensive. I have to let the wife's tolerance-for-my-hobby points build back up before I buy another test.