View Full Version : Feedback on R1a and R1a1a Samples in My Surname Study

Bowe(s) ONS
02-24-2015, 07:48 PM

If someone would care to look at my green Irish subgroups in the Bowes DNA project, you see I have one same each of R1a and R1a1a according to FTDNA. I am waiting the 12-67 marker upgrade on the R1a. I notice these samples are extremely distant at 12 markers. Is this a case of a fudged haplogroup assignment by FTDNA, or is it within the realm of R1a?

Also, I would think it fairly unlikely to have two R1a samples from Ireland in such a small surname study, but it also seems unlikely that if both upgraded to 67 they'd be found in the same R1a subclade.


Thanks in advance, Martha Bowes

02-24-2015, 10:56 PM
#238294 has 10 at DYS388, which is characteristic of the L664 (Northwestern European) branch of R1a1a. I suggest you join him to the R1a Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1a/default.aspx).

#N57933 is really R-M269. Kit #79634 in my project has the same first 12 markers, but has upgraded to 25 markers; FTDNA correctly predicts him to be R-M269.

Bowe(s) ONS
02-25-2015, 12:47 AM
Okay, thanks. They had N57933 as M269 and one day it had just switched.