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MitchellSince1893
02-28-2015, 03:10 AM
For individuals that have results from these 3 companies it may be informative to post your results. I haven't done all 3 (I've done 23andme and transfered to FTDNA) but my father has.

My father's 3 results:

Ancestry.com Ethnicity estimate
REGION: %
Europe: 98%
Great Britain: 71%
Ireland: 21%
Scandinavia: 3%
European Jewish: 2%
Finland/Northwest Russia: < 1%
Caucasus: 2%
Trace Regions: 2%

FTDNA MyOrigins
European: 93%
British Isles: 91%
Eastern Europe: 2%
Eastern Middle Eastern: 7%

23andme Ancestry Composition on Speculative Mode
European: 98.6%
British & Irish: 71.1%
French & German: 5.7%
Scandinavian: 1.2%
Broadly Northern European: 17.6%
Iberian: 0.9%
Broadly Southern European: 1.0%
Broadly European: 1.1%
South Asian: 1.3%
East Asian: 0.1%
Broadly East Asian: 0.1%

His known ancestry is:
British: 83.5%
Irish: 3.5%
Dutch and German: 10%
Swedish: 1%
India: 2%


Just to compare apples to apples, British and Irish totals:
Ancestry=92%
MyOrigins=91%
23andme=71 to 89%
Known=87%

The interesting thing to me is how all 3 companies interpret my father's Indian and possible British Romany ancestry (he shares segments with folks on FTDNA that are of Romanichal ancestry)
-MyOrigins calls it Eastern Middle Eastern.
-Ancestry calls it West Asia,
-23andme calls it South Asian.

Based on the Eastern Middle East and Caucasus results, I've speculated that his Indian ancestry may be of Iranian origin.

AnnieD
08-09-2015, 08:49 PM
I have Carolina and heavy British - Colonial American roots similar to MitchellSince1893 so it might be interesting to compare our results:

Ancestry.com Ethnicity estimate:
REGION: %
Europe: 100%
- Great Britain: 58%
- Europe West: 32%
- Ireland: 5%
- Trace Regions: 4% (Scandinavian 3%, E. Europe <1%, Iberian <1%)

FTDNA MyOrigins estimate:
European: 99%
- British Isles: 80%
- West & Central Europe: 14%
- Finland & Northern Siberia: 5%
- Middle Eastern - Asia Minor: 2%
(Yes, I'm a whopping 101%, apparently not uncommon algorithm effect.)

23andme Ancestry Composition on Speculative Mode:
European: 98.7%
N. European:
- British & Irish: 60.4%
- French & German: 14.3%
- Finnish: 0.3%
- Broadly Northern European: 20.2%

Southern European:
- Italian: 0.5%
- Broadly Southern European: 1.5%
- Ashkenazi: 0.1%

Broadly European: 1.5%

East Asian & Native American: 1.0%
- Native American: 1.0%
- Broadly East Asian & Native American: <0.1%

Sub-Saharan African:
- West African: 0.2%

Middle Eastern & North African: <0.1%

Unassigned: <0.1%
__________________________________________________ ________________
For comparison - My Father's FTDNA MyOrigins estimate:
European: 96%
- British Isles: 49%
- Scandinavian: 47%
- Middle Eastern - Asia Minor: 5%
(Yes, also adding to 101%)

My "known" ancestry is widely estimated based on: (a) only 2 solid lines of documentation, (b) Ethnicities documented in Colonial American regions where my kin settled (Virginia, Carolinas, Georgia, Pennsylvania - English, Scottish / Ulster Scots & German immigrants) and (c) surnames (all English, English or Belgian, Scottish, Irish or German):
- British: 75 - 85% (English & Scottish - possibly fairly equal %)
- Irish: 5 - 25% (only 1 known Irish surname - others may have Anglicized surnames)
- Dutch & German: 10 - 15%

My amateur assessment of these results:
- % European varies from 98.7% to 100% with slight differences in trace or minor components.

- British-to-West Continental ratio appears fairly consistent between 3 tools & compatible with my paper trail to-date.

- FTDNA My Origins results for my father seem very erratic @ only 49% British & 47% Scandinavian. His R1b-U106 haplogroup has been found in Scandinavian regions but would not account for such a high aDNA percentage. With no family lore of heritage in this area, only a handful of matches with Scandinavian-sounding surnames and Colonial era settlement in regions that did not have particularly high Scandinavian, I think this is a wide over-estimation. His MtDNA results have been pending for over 8 months, so something seems a little off with his results.

- Trace &/or "exotic" results - Finnish / N. Siberian in My FTDNA & Middle Eastern in both our FTDNA results:
Can I attribute my 3-generational paternal mixed-pigmentation phenotype (RS 16891982-CG vs. European norm-CC) to this trace ancestry: Hair lightish in youth & darkening considerably at adolescence; high tanning ability-more medium skin tone in winter than milky white a la Irish; & light eyes (father's & GF's eyes were lighter blue than mine). I would argue YDNA La Brana (LOL!) except my mother was all-around fair, and I still inherited the mixed pigmentation traits. Also quirky is that my eye tone / shade per another SNP pigmentation thread at 23andme was one of few to have the lightest conference. This seems to be a tricky climatic adaption, e.g. skin less sun sensitive whereas eyes more sun sensitive. I am curious which of the trace ancestries contributed to this predominating pattern on my father's line.

Jessie
08-10-2015, 06:54 AM
I only have 23andMe and FTDNA

FTDNA I'm 100% British Isles

23andMe
94% British & Irish
2.6% French & German
3.4% Broadly Northern European
&lt;0.1% Broadly European

Stephen1986
08-10-2015, 11:58 AM
The genealogical ancestry of my brother and myself can be broken down as 76.01% English (including possible Scottish and maybe more Welsh in my Gloucestershire and Cheshire lines), 10.96% Irish, 0.53% Welsh and 12.5% unknown.

Here's my results for all three companies

Ancestry Ethnicity Estimate

Europe 100%
Europe West 38% (range 11-64%)
Ireland 27% (range 10-45%)
Great Britain 26% (range 0-57%)
Scandinavia 7% (range 0-23%)

Iberian Peninsula <1% (range 0-4%)
Finland/Northwest Russia <1% (range 0-2%)

FTDNA MyOrigins (I have two of these, one for my 23andMe raw data and one for my Ancestry data)


Using my 23andMe data -

European 100%
British Isles 85%
Scandinavia 15%

Using my Ancestry data -

European 100%
British Isles 91%
Scandinavia 9%

23andMe Ancestry Composition (Speculative)


European 100%

Northern European 98.8%
British & Irish 70.5%
French & German 6.1%
Scandinavian 1.9%
Broadly Northern European 20.3%

Broadly European 1.2%

Unassigned <0.1%

My brother only has 23andMe and FTDNA results


FTDNA My Origins

European 98%
British Isles 65%
Western & Central Europe 24%
Scandinavia 9%

Middle Eastern 2%
Eastern Middle East 2%

23andMe Ancestry Composition (Speculative)

European 99.7%

Northern European 97.1%
British & Irish 70.8%
French & German 5.1%
Scandinavian 0.7%
Broadly Northern European 20.5%

Southern European 1.2%
Iberian 0.2%
Broadly Southern European 1.0%

Broadly European 1.4%

Middle Eastern & North African 0.1%
North African 0.1%

East Asian & Native American <0.1%
Broadly East Asian <0.1%
Broadly East Asian & Native American <0.1%

Unassigned 0.2%

AnnieD
08-11-2015, 06:07 AM
I only have 23andMe and FTDNA

FTDNA I'm 100% British Isles

23andMe
94% British & Irish
2.6% French & German
3.4% Broadly Northern European
&lt;0.1% Broadly European


@ Jessie,
Wow, you are one of the few 100% one ethnicity on FTDNA that I've come across! If I recall correctly that your Eurogenes results also showed a strong match with Irish, you definitely show some distinct signals for the Irish. I've been curious what basis AncestryDNA uses to break-out Irish as the other big US DNA companies categorize it with British. Since the Nature Welcomme Trust study did not include the Irish, we'll have to wait for the Irish DNA Atlas study to see how the latest, greatest genetics turn out.

Your very high British and Irish (B&I) score at 23andMe seems interesting as I've read at least two 23andMe posts by European English customers who were surprised at the high B&I that Americans of reported B&I descent scored vs. actual British in Europe. It will be interesting to see over time, therefore, if the B&I interpretation gets fine-tuned.

AnnieD
08-11-2015, 06:34 AM
@ Stephen,
As an American who is more accustomed to seeing the results of possibly heavily admixed Americans, it is really interesting to see a fully English (and Jessi fully Irish) for comparison. It also seems really interesting that you score 100% Euro across all 3 tests whereas your brother has minor ME on both tests. His Native American, although very minor so possibly noise, seems curious in an Englishmen although I have read that even Irish can score oddly high on some tests. Do you two have a contest over what the 0.2% might become assigned to - LOL!

As an Englishman, do you have any clue why your W. Euro score on AncestryDNA is quite a bit higher than your Britain? Possibly you have more Anglo-Saxon heritage per the red area on the Welcomme Trust study of British genetics. While I have not specifically studied a lot of Great Britain range estimates at AncestryDNA, it also seems interesting that your British could have a lowest range estimate 0%. My Britain score was 58% with a range of 28% to a whopping 85%. With a fairly equal mix of English and Scottish surnames in my family tree, I could believe any result within my range - LOL!

Jessie
08-11-2015, 07:13 AM
@ Jessie,
Wow, you are one of the few 100% one ethnicity on FTDNA that I've come across! If I recall correctly that your Eurogenes results also showed a strong match with Irish, you definitely show some distinct signals for the Irish. I've been curious what basis AncestryDNA uses to break-out Irish as the other big US DNA companies categorize it with British. Since the Nature Welcomme Trust study did not include the Irish, we'll have to wait for the Irish DNA Atlas study to see how the latest, greatest genetics turn out.

Your very high British and Irish (B&I) score at 23andMe seems interesting as I've read at least two 23andMe posts by European English customers who were surprised at the high B&I that Americans of reported B&I descent scored vs. actual British in Europe. It will be interesting to see over time, therefore, if the B&I interpretation gets fine-tuned.

My Eurogenes results show a pull towards North Dutch and Norwegians as well. Here's my brother who has even higher British&Irish on 23andMe. He also is 100% British Isles on FTDNA.

Here are his 23&Me results

96.8% British & Irish
3.0% Broadly Northern European
0.1% Broadly European
0.1% Unassigned

English people get a much more varied result. The British&Irish on 23andMe is definitely skewed towards the Irish; I personally think the British&Irish still needs fine tuning. If you look at the PoBI results they show much more fine scale results e.g. even in Northern Ireland they pick up a lot more complex results.

http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu295/Alchemyst/PotBI%202015%20Britain%20Map%20My%20Version_zpswv5 8tnlo.jpg

Stephen1986
08-11-2015, 09:01 AM
@ Stephen,
As an American who is more accustomed to seeing the results of possibly heavily admixed Americans, it is really interesting to see a fully English (and Jessi fully Irish) for comparison. It also seems really interesting that you score 100% Euro across all 3 tests whereas your brother has minor ME on both tests. His Native American, although very minor so possibly noise, seems curious in an Englishmen although I have read that even Irish can score oddly high on some tests. Do you two have a contest over what the 0.2% might become assigned to - LOL!

I think the Southern European, North African, Middle Eastern and East Asian/Native American parts are signifying ancestry from somewhere on the European continent but which the tests are assigning to these groups as a best fit.


As an Englishman, do you have any clue why your W. Euro score on AncestryDNA is quite a bit higher than your Britain? Possibly you have more Anglo-Saxon heritage per the red area on the Welcomme Trust study of British genetics.


I think it could be that, yeah, but I don't know enough about the components to say for sure. I know on 23andMe that Irish people tend to score more British and Irish than British people do - I've read that British average c70% and Irish average c90%.


While I have not specifically studied a lot of Great Britain range estimates at AncestryDNA, it also seems interesting that your British could have a lowest range estimate 0%. My Britain score was 58% with a range of 28% to a whopping 85%. With a fairly equal mix of English and Scottish surnames in my family tree, I could believe any result within my range - LOL!

I'm wondering if there's less confidence in some of the percentages, and so they might show bigger ranges to compensate?

evon
08-11-2015, 09:26 AM
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp207/vulcanphoto/Unti.png

I think FTDNA is much cruder in some respects then 23andme, but I dont think any of them is 100% right..

AnnieD
08-12-2015, 04:19 AM
@Evon,
I am following your genetic odyssey in your Anthrogencia thread. Very interesting how even a far Norseman like you can have a little 'exotic' diversity in your admixture. Possibly your Romani link is indicated by the S. Asian 0.6% at 23andMe.

@Jessie,
Now I remember how your results on Dodecad 3 started out at single level as more British - Argyll and then moved more west continental in mixed mode:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Argyll +50% Argyll @ 1.570250

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% German +25% Mixed_Germanic +25% Orcadian @ 0.880220

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 German + German + Mixed_Germanic + Orcadian @ 0.880220

The POBI maps you referenced are super interesting for showing the shared ancestry throughout much of the Isles before the invader populations. It makes it a lot more understandable to see varying results on different admixture calculators. For example, even N. Ireland / W. Scotland show a portion of W. German which might make your above results make a little sense. Even Orkney had a sizable admixture of N. France.

I clicked on the project link and discovered the 3D facial genotyping project. I will definitely look out for those results as I want to know who I can blame for this face - LOL!

Mike Wilson
08-13-2015, 10:17 AM
Phasing your results with your father or mother can improve things wrt such predictions.

My 1/2 sibling appears to have a mystery French Ancestry and when on Gedmatch I phased her results with me as her father I got this with K15 v2.

Before phasing:

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.436373
2 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.480836
3 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 6.560354
4 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.566226
5 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.583735
6 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.605991
7 Irish + Irish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.615560
8 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 6.619350
9 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Valencia @ 6.687324
10 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Valencia @ 6.691839
11 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.704469
12 Irish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 6.704703
13 Danish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.711696
14 Irish + Irish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.719308
15 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 6.733397
16 Irish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 6.736416
17 Irish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 6.736949
18 Irish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.748251
19 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 6.751460
20 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 6.753994

after phasing with my raw data as a proxy father:

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 11.930692
2 French_Basque + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 11.985669
3 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 12.010740
4 French_Basque + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 12.146708
5 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 12.150517
6 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 12.151898
7 French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 12.155255
8 French_Basque + Irish + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 12.175357
9 French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 12.218969
10 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 12.301566
11 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + West_Norwegian @ 12.312214
12 French_Basque + Irish + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 12.325515
13 French_Basque + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 12.350965
14 French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 12.368440
15 French_Basque + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 12.374862
16 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 12.393398
17 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 12.421009
18 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 12.424001
19 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Orcadian @ 12.426252
20 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 12.429731

while @12.#### is remote form the ideal 1.### the benefits of phasing against a father are clear.

The other side of the family is probably from the Orkney or Shetland islands

AnnieD
08-14-2015, 04:35 AM
Hi Mike,
Your phasing results with your half-sibling are quite striking! Pre-phasing shows no French Basque at all, and then it consistently appears over all 20 matches. This seems to be one of the more intriguing ancestries in terms of determining ancient origins given their unique language. Orcadian, while it might be similar to W. Scottish, is hiding in pre-phasing and then makes a regular appearance in post-phasing. As you indicate that you have strong family ties in the Orkney / Shetland region, this certainly seems to demonstrate the efficacy of this tool. Thanks much for sharing your results!

Since most of us posters thus far have a lot of West and NW Euro heritage, will you be brave and join us in sharing your 3-company DNA tests - LOL!

AnnieD
08-16-2015, 06:03 PM
Sorry for back-to-back post, but I can't seem to edit my earlier AC entry now. It looks like everyone else is too fiscally prudent to spend their hard-earned bucks on 3 DNA tests - LOL! However, I thought it would be more fair and relevant to include 23andMe's conservative AC (also a Standard composition but I'll skip for brevity) for comparison with the default Speculative. At conservative mode, you can really get a sense of the apparently high degree of interpretation as my results become largely "Broadly" European. AncestryDNA has a similar feature in that confidence ranges are listed for all populations.

Conservative mode:
97.3% European

Northern European
14.5% British & Irish
0.1% Finnish
55.4% Broadly Northern European
< 0.1% Ashkenazi
27.3% Broadly European
1.0% Broadly East Asian & Native American
1.7% Unassigned

Stephen1986
08-16-2015, 07:55 PM
The genealogical ancestry of my brother and myself can be broken down as 76.01% English (including possible Scottish and maybe more Welsh in my Gloucestershire and Cheshire lines), 10.96% Irish, 0.53% Welsh and 12.5% unknown.

23andMe Ancestry Composition (Speculative)


European 100%

Northern European 98.8%
British & Irish 70.5%
French & German 6.1%
Scandinavian 1.9%
Broadly Northern European 20.3%

Broadly European 1.2%

Unassigned <0.1%

My brother only has 23andMe and FTDNA results


23andMe Ancestry Composition (Speculative)

European 99.7%

Northern European 97.1%
British & Irish 70.8%
French & German 5.1%
Scandinavian 0.7%
Broadly Northern European 20.5%

Southern European 1.2%
Iberian 0.2%
Broadly Southern European 1.0%

Broadly European 1.4%

Middle Eastern & North African 0.1%
North African 0.1%

East Asian & Native American <0.1%
Broadly East Asian <0.1%
Broadly East Asian & Native American <0.1%

Unassigned 0.2%

My conservative AC results -


European 98.9%

Northern European 62.6%
British & Irish 7.3%
Broadly Northern European 55.4%

Broadly European 36.3%

Unassigned 1.1%

My brother's conservative AC results -

European 98.6%

Northern European 63.5%
British & Irish 8.8%
Broadly Northern European 54.7%

Broadly European 35.2%

Unassigned 1.4%

AnnieD
08-17-2015, 05:23 AM
@Stephen,
You, your brother and I certainly look like cousins in the Conservative AC - Broadly N. Euro category :) We're pretty close in the Unassigned category as well. Hopefully, time will tell what other DNA mysteries may lurk within ...

Jessie
10-23-2015, 05:15 PM
I only have 23andMe and FTDNA

FTDNA I'm 100% British Isles

23andMe
94% British & Irish
2.6% French & German
3.4% Broadly Northern European
<0.1% Broadly European

Just received my Ancestry results

http://i57.tinypic.com/aoqc7k.png

MitchellSince1893
10-23-2015, 07:43 PM
I need to update my 1st post to show my dad's dna.land results.

BalkanKiwi
10-23-2015, 10:04 PM
I don't have AncestryDNA results, but I have Geno 2.0 results. I might as well share my DNA Land results as well.

FTDNA


http://i.imgur.com/Y8nYP9Y.png

23andMe


http://i.imgur.com/jNQYYNW.png

Geno 2.0

http://i.imgur.com/15orj6l.png

DNA Land

http://i.imgur.com/fEdovuO.png

MitchellSince1893
10-24-2015, 03:42 AM
Ok here an update with my father's dna.land results

DNA.LAND
North/central European (74.36%)
Southwestern European (11.51%)
North/east European (9.87%)
Other (4.26%)

Ancestry.com Ethnicity estimate
REGION: %
Europe: 98%
Great Britain: 71%
Ireland: 21%
Scandinavia: 3%
European Jewish: 2%
Finland/Northwest Russia: < 1%
Caucasus: 2%
Trace Regions: 2%

FTDNA MyOrigins
European: 93%
British Isles: 91%
Eastern Europe: 2%
Eastern Middle Eastern: 7%

23andme Ancestry Composition on Speculative Mode
European: 98.6%
British & Irish: 71.1%
French & German: 5.7%
Scandinavian: 1.2%
Broadly Northern European: 17.6%
Iberian: 0.9%
Broadly Southern European: 1.0%
Broadly European: 1.1%
South Asian: 1.3%
East Asian: 0.1%
Broadly East Asian: 0.1%

Jutlander
10-25-2015, 12:03 PM
My AC's from 23andme and Ancestry DNA

6434

6435

I think i have posted these before in a thread regarding the same content, however as before i said that Ancestry DNA seems to seperate British Isles and Irish DNA into 2 separate sections section where as 23andme molds British and Irish in 1 section.

I don't know whether in the end using more companies helps or just makes things more difficult.

leonardo
10-25-2015, 01:04 PM
23andMe:
100% European

Northwestern European
20.2% British & Irish
14.4% French & German
5.3% Scandinavian
31.4% Broadly Northwestern European

Southern European
2.1% Italian
2.0% Balkan
7.3% Broadly Southern European
2.9% Eastern European
14.4% Broadly European
< 0.1% Unassigned

FTDNA:
European 97%
Western and Central European 53%
British Isles 27%
Eastern European 11%
Finland and Northern Siberia 6%

Middle Eastern 4%
Asia Minor 4%

Ancestry DNA:
Africa < 1%
Trace Regions < 1%
Africa North < 1%

Europe 94%
Europe West 34%
Ireland 13%
Europe East 10%
Great Britain 10%
Scandinavia 9%
Iberian Peninsula 8%
Trace Regions 10%
Finland/Northwest Russia 5%
Italy/Greece 5%

West Asia 5%
Trace Regions 5%
Caucasus 5%


A few observations: I had Davidski analyze my autosomal data, in comparison to my mother's, a few years back - in an attempt to learn more about my unknown paternal grandfather. David informed me that I had more Scandinavian and Central European than my mother, who is approximately 50% German (paper trail seems to indicate ancestry from sw Germany, even into Switzerland) and 50% British Isles (including a fair amount of Irish from the paper trail I have been able to find). With my Big Y results, as well as the autosomal results from 3 companies, it appears my grandfather was from Poland: quite possibly Kashubian, in part or whole (although many of my matches surnames appear to be germanized). So, for me, Ancestry appears to be the most accurate. It has me at about 25% Eastern Europe/Scandinavian and Finland-NW Russia. My mother's total at Ancestry DNA is about 3% for these three. FTDNA captures some of these too. 23andMe, not so much. By the way, did 23andMe change their category from "Broadly Northern European" to "Broadly Northwestern European?"

Erik
10-25-2015, 02:01 PM
Information on mine lies in this thread: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?5697-THE-GRAND-COMPARISON-every-test-I-ever-took

Bleuteufel
10-26-2015, 06:26 AM
My 3 results, I am 1/2 African American and about 1/4 North German, 1/4 Lett Latvian. 23andme has the best estimate of my known ancestry. MyOrigins tends to see my European as Scandinavian which I do get on various gedmatch calculators on 2 populations usually. Ancestry inflates the Eastern European but the range starts at 25% which is interesting.

23andme (spec)

52.7% European
12.7% French / German
6.2% Scandinavian
0.7% British Isles
7.5% Broadly North European
20.7% Eastern European
1.6% Ashkhenazi
less 0.1% Iberian
0.7% Broadly South European
2.6% Broadly European

African 46.2%
46.1% West African
less 0.1% Central & South African
0.1% Broadly SSA

other
0.5% Southeast Asian
0.5% Native American
less 0.1 Broadly Asian / Native American

My Origins

European 53%
Scandinavian 35%
Eastern European 13%
British Isles 5%

African 48%
West African 46%
South-Central African 2%

AncestryDNA

European 53%
Europe East 35%
Scandinavia 7%
Great Britain 5%
Ireland 5%
Finland / NW Russia 1%
Europe West less 1%

African 46%
Cameroon/Congo 14%
Benin/Togo 13%
Mali 8%
Ivory Coast / Ghana 3%
Senegal 3%
Nigeria 2%
Africa Southeastern Bantu 2%
Africa S-C Hunter-Gatherers less 1%

Other
Polynesia less 1%

Varun R
10-30-2015, 08:57 PM
Don't have information from Ancestry :(

FTDNA:
S Asia 52%
Central Asia 37%
SE Asia 6%
Scandinavia 5%

23andMe
S Asia 99.7%
NW European 0.2%
Native American 0.1%

Genes for Good
Central and S Asia 98%
Oceania 2%
(Awaiting the raw data for this)

XooR
11-04-2015, 04:59 PM
Below are FTDNA, DNALand and Ancestry results.
I have Laz origin, most of matches are Laz from Georgia.
Can anyone explain why FTDNA doesnt show any european composition meanwhile the others have some.
Thank you.

Asimakidis
11-05-2015, 01:41 PM
I have only 23andme and FTDNA, and Genographic Project done on me.
6536
6537
6538

Erik
11-05-2015, 09:12 PM
I have only 23andme and FTDNA, and Genographic Project done on me.
6536
6537
6538

What are your reference populations on Geno?

gruder
11-07-2015, 03:16 AM
Everything's accurate except that annoying Amerindian 23andMe and ftDNA picks up....
I assume it's common for Western Europeans to have at least 3% Eastern Euro.
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Mike Wilson
11-22-2015, 10:56 AM
AnnieD

She is on AC at 23andme:

99.9% European

Northwestern European
55.9% British & Irish
19.3% French & German
0.8% Scandinavian

22.8% Broadly Northwestern European
1.0% Broadly European
0.1% Middle Eastern & North African
0.1% North African

Chromosome X fits in Broadly Northwestern European category, i.e. not the
British & Irish, or
French & German

We are not arranging any more tests for her as enough $ have been spent on this.

AJL
11-22-2015, 04:03 PM
Everything's accurate except that annoying Amerindian 23andMe and ftDNA picks up

You have two tests giving you about 1% Amerindian and the third giving you <1% Asian, a common misread for Amerindian. Seems more likely to me that you actually have distant Amerindian ancestry than that three different tests are all wrong by about the same amount.

Asimakidis
11-22-2015, 09:50 PM
What are your reference populations on Geno?

1. Iranian
2. Sardinian

gruder
11-23-2015, 12:53 AM
You have two tests giving you about 1% Amerindian and the third giving you <1% Asian, a common misread for Amerindian. Seems more likely to me that you actually have distant Amerindian ancestry than that three different tests are all wrong by about the same amount.

Yep, a week ago I had my analysis by McDonald and he confirmed my Amerindian ancestry. I never thought I had any since both sides of my family didn't have any stories about it. Not only that, but the other day I discovered that an ancestor on my maternal side is found on the Guion Miller Rolls as a Cherokee. :biggrin1:

Darko
11-23-2015, 12:54 AM
I have 3 results ftdna (myorigins), Britainsdna ( chromo2 complete) and dna land:

my origins:
African: 60%
Middle Eastern: 36%
European: 04%

all my ancestry (CHROMO2 COMPLETE):

native american: 3%
Pacific : 1%
East asian: 0%
north asian:0%
south asian: 2%
european :8%
southwest asian: 2%
west eurasian: 30%
East african: 10%
pan african:42%
ancien afrian:2%

DNA LAND:
East African (28%)
West African (27.23%)
Near Eastern (19.37%)
North African (18.73%)
Other (6.67%)

wombatofthenorth
12-13-2015, 09:08 PM
My mom:
Geno 2.0
51% Northern European
29% Mediterranean
17% Southwest Asian
2% Oceanian
Closest two reference population results are Danish and British (they don't have a Baltic reference).

23
Eastern European 90.3%
Northwestern European 8.3%
Scandinavian 3.6%
Southern European 0.6%
No clue what the Southern European is about.

Eurogenes K13 components that show in pie chart
North_Atlantic 32.06%
Baltic 54.63%
West_Med 5.57%
West_Asian 1.60%
East_Med 3.18%
Oceanian 0.95%
phased kit above components or new
North_Atlantic 33.32%
Baltic 54.27%
West_Med 4.68%
West_Asian 0.98%
East_Med 2.12%
Red_Sea 1.24%
Oceanian 0.88%
Northeast_African 1.93%

wombatofthenorth
12-13-2015, 09:12 PM
Me:
23
Eastern European 92.6%
Northwestern European 5.7%
Scandinavian 1.3%
Finnish 0.3%

Eurogenes K13 components that show in pie chart
North_Atlantic 29.95%
Baltic 52.29%
West_Med 7.27%
West_Asian 3.48%
East_Med 1.32%
Red_Sea 1.58%
South_Asian 0.95%
Oceanian 0.96%
Northeast_African 1.41%

wombatofthenorth
12-13-2015, 09:19 PM
My dad:
Geno 2.0
49% Northern European
30% Mediterranean
19% Southwest Asian

23
Eastern European 79.1%
Northwestern European 13.7%
Scandinavian 2.0%
Finnish 1.9%
British & Irish 0.7%
Southern European 1.6%
Balkan 1.0%

Eurogenes K13 components that show in pie chart
North_Atlantic 28.45%
Baltic 51.72%
West_Med 9.20%
West_Asian 6.67%
South_Asian 1.36%
phased kit above components or new
North_Atlantic 26.52%
Baltic 50.54%
West_Med 9.92%
West_Asian 5.87%
Red_Sea 1.88%
South_Asian 1.89%
Oceanian 1.00%

dnaland
North/east European 92.73%
Other 7.27%

kujira692
12-14-2015, 03:09 AM
My father's (who, based upon incomplete family information, is German/French/British Isles/Unknown):

ANCESTRY

ASIA <1%
Asia South <1% (~0-2%)

EUROPE 99%
Europe West 44% (~13-76%)
Ireland 33% (~17-49%)
Great Britain 8% (~0-30%)
Scandinavia 6% (~0-19%)
Italy/Greece 4% (~0-9%)
Iberian Peninsula 2% (~0-6%)
Finland/Northwest Russia 2% (~0-5%)

FTDNA

EUROPEAN 100%
British Isles 43%
Western and Central Europe 37%
Eastern Europe 9%
Scandinavia 8%
Southern Europe 3%

DNA.LAND

North/Central European 81.75%
Southwestern European 10.8%
North/East European 5.98%
Other 1.47%

AnnieD
12-15-2015, 05:32 AM
Welcome, Kujira692. Your Western Euro component looks fairly compatible between Ancestry and FTDNA to me. However, the difference in British seems interesting. If your father tests at 23andMe, it would be interesting to compare the British / Irish vs. French / German AC there to your other big two DNA company results.

@Wombatofthenorth,
I am not very familiar with Geno 2.0 results, but I find your family's Mediterranean % quite high for Baltics. However, if I take this test, you'll have to call me a DNA "addict" as my current count takes more than one hand already. You are usually the king of the most Baltic, Hunter Gatherer, or NE Euro-type components on the Gedmatch calculator posts. I wonder if the average British Isles folk would get up to 50% Med on this test based on your results. However, I suppose that this test is getting at more ancient components - WHG, EHG, EEF, ANE, etc. Anyhow, it is great to have a full family of almost purely one ancestry for comparison.

wombatofthenorth
12-16-2015, 07:24 AM
Welcome, Kujira692. Your Western Euro component looks fairly compatible between Ancestry and FTDNA to me. However, the difference in British seems interesting. If your father tests at 23andMe, it would be interesting to compare the British / Irish vs. French / German AC there to your other big two DNA company results.

@Wombatofthenorth,
I am not very familiar with Geno 2.0 results, but I find your family's Mediterranean % quite high for Baltics. However, if I take this test, you'll have to call me a DNA "addict" as my current count takes more than one hand already. You are usually the king of the most Baltic, Hunter Gatherer, or NE Euro-type components on the Gedmatch calculator posts. I wonder if the average British Isles folk would get up to 50% Med on this test based on your results. However, I suppose that this test is getting at more ancient components - WHG, EHG, EEF, ANE, etc. Anyhow, it is great to have a full family of almost purely one ancestry for comparison.

Actually my mom was sadly dethroned as king of the WHG. As Geno 2.0 predicted, it was someone apparently very deeply northern Finnish who stole our crown by someone here (I forget which thread).

For some reference the Danish reference on Geno 2.0 gets 30% Mediterranean basic ancient signal of the farmers from the western Fertile Crescent, 16% Southwest Asian basic ancient signal of the farmers from the eastern Fertile Crescent and 53% Northern European basic ancient signal of the hunter gatherers. The British reference gets 33%,17%,50%. The Finnish Reference gets 17%,17%,57%,7% (the latter being Northeast Asian basic ancient signal of the rice farmers). The Russian reference gets 25%,18%,51%,4%. Oh and the German gets 36%,17%,46%.

My mom may actually have a good 12% German and other mixed in, maybe even 20%.

They don't have a Baltic reference population. She ends up basically like their Scandinavian reference population (her mix of maybe 80-88% Baltic + German/others).