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rock hunter
03-12-2015, 05:07 AM
Did dogs make ice-age man a ‘super predator’?

A new book, by anthropologist, Pat Shipman, “The Invaders“, argues that humans and their dogs drove Neanderthals to extinction. She presents evidence that homo sapiens, who arrived in northern Europe 40,000 years ago, formed a partnership with wolves, which they domesticated into “wolf dogs.” The skeletal remains of these animals differ from those of both wolves, and the dogs that would come along later in history.

She says the wolf-dog helped early humans to hunt, turning them into super predators that dominated their environment. Ms. Shipman says humans thus became an “invasive species,” and drove the dog-less Neanderthals to extinction.



http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/03/10/dogs-may-have-played-role-in-extinction-of-neanderthals/

Emir
06-03-2016, 03:05 PM
I wonder how we can make the determination that Neanderthals were dog-less. Perhaps, the dog lobby is producing this research.

Saetro
06-04-2016, 03:43 AM
I wonder how we can make the determination that Neanderthals were dog-less. Perhaps, the dog lobby is producing this research.

Generally, Neanderthals died out around 40,000 years ago.
Dogs separated from wolves about 27,000 years ago, with a suggested association date with humans of 15,000 years ago.
See news article http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32691843
and original science article by Skoglund et al 2015 http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2815%2900432-7

If this chronology is correct then there were no dogs in Neanderthal times.
There could be fossil evidence that has not yet been found, but my understanding is that what exists so far does not show domesticated wolves with Neanderthals.