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BalkanKiwi
04-07-2015, 10:32 AM
I came across this interesting website that allows you to upload your 23andMe data which compares your genotypes to gene markers known to be used for motivation, power, endurance, recovery etc. Each gene has a confidence level out of 3 which rates how many studies have been done to prove its an accurate measure. You can also view an overall score out of 100 for each category.

For example, in Power performance the gene marker rs1815739 has a 3/3 confidence level. My genotype is CC which means I have the ACTN3 protein which is important for fast-twitch muscle fibers and explosive power performance.

You can check it out here, https://www.athletigen.com/

Here's an overview of my results.

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Salkin
04-07-2015, 10:48 AM
Yeah, I found that some time back when it was mentioned in the 23andMe community forums. Kind of interesting. I too seem to be rs1815739 CC, but I'm not sure I would really consider myself much of a sprinter.

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BalkanKiwi
04-07-2015, 11:07 AM
Yeah, I found that some time back when it was mentioned in the 23andMe community forums. Kind of interesting. I too seem to be rs1815739 CC, but I'm not sure I would really consider myself much of a sprinter.

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You have a pretty solid injury prevention score though. As I'm a health professional and someone who is physically active I'm finding this info quite fascinating. I think there is quite a bit of truth to some of these results, especially the heavily researched gene makers. Apparently I have a higher vulnerability to disc degeneration injury. The gene marker has 1/3 scientific confidence but probably something to keep in mind regardless.

Salkin
04-07-2015, 11:14 AM
Yeah, I found the injury protection score interesting - injuries I've had have tended to heal rather well, leave little scarring, etc. With the studies supporting the scores, I don't doubt there is something to them.

Scarlet Ibis
04-07-2015, 07:03 PM
Interesting. Does this work with V2?

I started the process, but disallowed access, as there are family members tied to my account who are way more concerned about privacy than I am. I'd have to ask their permission first.

BalkanKiwi
04-07-2015, 09:26 PM
Interesting. Does this work with V2?

I started the process, but disallowed access, as there are family members tied to my account who are way more concerned about privacy than I am. I'd have to ask their permission first.

I can't find anything on their website about versions so there probably isn't any harm in trying when/if you get permission :)

Raskolnikov
04-08-2015, 02:33 AM
Motivation
50
Power
92
Anaerobic Capacity
73
Endurance
52
Metabolic Efficiency
74
Recovery
85
Injury Protection
45

Alpine Hominin
04-08-2015, 02:46 AM
My results:

Motivation
72
Power
84
Anaerobic Capacity
60
Endurance
49
Metabolic Efficiency
78
Recovery
80
Injury Protection
84

Rukha
04-08-2015, 03:02 AM
My results:

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BalkanKiwi
04-08-2015, 08:27 AM
I find the lactate threshold quite interesting. I apparently have a high lactate threshold response to training which I do think is partly true from experience. I'm sure more research will be done in this area to increase athletic performance and manage lactic acid accumulation better in elite athletes.

Raskolnikov
04-10-2015, 01:48 AM
Whilst I find this terribly interesting and I was happy with my scores for Power and Recovery I doubt the total effect of all of these alleles is even as much as 10% towards one's genotypic "atheletic ability". Height is controlled by 100s of alleles, each one having a small effect, I'm sure athleticism, with all it's diverse components is also highly polygenic, probably more-so than height.

Does anyone know the heritability of athletic traits like power and endurance etc?

BalkanKiwi
04-11-2015, 09:05 AM
I've heard the term used when a teenager is good at a particular sport, and one or both of his/her parents were elite athletes. Therefore people assume if two elite athletes have a child then that child will also be genetically "well off" in sport. I haven't found any studies to prove that though. However if you looked at your markers on Athletigen for example, and compared your data to a parent and they shared similar genotypes at the same markers, I assume it may be hereditary.

Ignis90
04-11-2015, 07:34 PM
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It's fun and interesting but I hope this gets updated with more and more studies on the heritability of these traits.

BalkanKiwi
04-11-2015, 10:19 PM
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It's fun and interesting but I hope this gets updated with more and more studies on the heritability of these traits.

Impressive power and recovery scores.

Ignis90
04-12-2015, 06:33 PM
Impressive power and recovery scores.

Yeah, I have to test this out. B)

surbakhunWeesste
04-17-2015, 12:33 AM
it kinda made me sad :/
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Arbogan
04-17-2015, 02:43 AM
I have poor scores, yet in real life, I've participated in physically demanding athletics, have done a very physically stressful job, and I've been more fit than most people bother with during their lifetime, at one point in my life. So I call BS.

Motivation
26
Power
29
Anaerobic Capacity
47
Endurance
43
Metabolic Efficiency
83
Recovery
74
Injury Protection
26

MacUalraig
05-13-2015, 05:07 PM
Thanks for highlighting this, I must give this a go. Used to do a lot of middle/long distance track and have had lactate threshold and VO2max lab tests before. I tended to be a bit of a 'one-pace' runner ie lacked a sprint finish especially at the shorter distances.

There was a BBC programme a while ago about exercise 'responders' or those who had a good genetic response to aerobic training and I emailed 23andme at the time but I thought they said they weren't testing the markers they mentioned.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17177251

There seems to have been a recent programme which may be related to this test but not viewed it yet:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/32623320

MacUalraig
05-13-2015, 06:53 PM
Thanks for highlighting this, I must give this a go. Used to do a lot of middle/long distance track and have had lactate threshold and VO2max lab tests before. I tended to be a bit of a 'one-pace' runner ie lacked a sprint finish especially at the shorter distances.

There was a BBC programme a while ago about exercise 'responders' or those who had a good genetic response to aerobic training and I emailed 23andme at the time but I thought they said they weren't testing the markers they mentioned.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17177251

There seems to have been a recent programme which may be related to this test but not viewed it yet:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/32623320

The test featured in the above BBC link is DNAFit.

Reith
05-13-2015, 08:03 PM
This seems highly inaccurate for myself, but will post anyway. My results differed from my DNAFit results as well.


Motivation
38
Power
50
Anaerobic Capacity
57
Endurance
62
Metabolic Efficiency
76
Recovery
79
Injury Protection
68

Reith
05-13-2015, 08:06 PM
DNA FIT:

Make the most of your gene c tendency for endurance ac vity by placing a priority on endurance exercise in your
training program
Exploit your tendency towards a high VO2 max by including both performance and power ac vi es in your training program.
Your gene c varia on does not indicate slower free radical clearance.
You have varia ons in genes related to inflamma on & recovery.
Your gene c results indicate standard requirement for dietary an oxidants
and increased amounts of omega 3 fa y acids.
Your gene c results indicate that you have an overall higher than average risk of a sports related soft tissue injury.



Your DNAFit assessment has determined that your gene c profile falls more in the zone of endurance ac vi es, based on
varia ons in your genes.
Make the most of your gene c tendency for endurance ac vity by placing a priority on endurance exercise in your training
program


Your DNAFit assessment has determined that your gene c profile predicts a tendency towards a high VO2 max based on
varia ons in your genes. In order to make the most of your natural VO2 max capacity, you will need to cross‐train by
consistently including both endurance and power ac vi es in your training program.
Exploit your tendency towards a high VO2 max by including both performance and power ac vi es in your training
program.
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Reith
05-13-2015, 08:10 PM
I have benched 425 pounds, squatted over 600 and deadlifted over 500 at 19 yo. LOL, I am not a power athlete though.

I have won multiple championships and awards for American Football, Rugby, Track, Wrestling, Boxing, MMA and BJJ.

Guess it was not my genes, but my training, though I always one of the strongest people on my teams.

Reith
05-13-2015, 08:18 PM
Does anyone know why my beta scores would conflict with my dashboard notes? For example, in Power, I am only the 7th percentile, but in the dashboard shows me as a Power Athlete on 3 of the genes.

MacUalraig
05-14-2015, 09:21 AM
Thanks for all the info Reith - but we need a control set to really answer the question, like a twin brother who never did any training... :-)

Reith
05-14-2015, 01:21 PM
Thanks for all the info Reith - but we need a control set to really answer the question, like a twin brother who never did any training... :-)

Yeah, guess so... lol

Celtarion
05-18-2015, 12:02 AM
I have tested both companies and and provide different results. As it's only the beginning of this type of information, it is important to remain cautious and should not be taken very seriously unless getting the approach from a professional coach and see how to get the benefits of the study in real condition.

However, it would be interesting to see how a member of a family such as father or mother would have positively or negatively impacted your own results.

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MonkeyDLuffy
05-19-2015, 11:24 AM
My results doesnt go with my life style at all. I am tall and athletic (12% body fat/muscular), been active in sports and activities, but according to the scores I should be a really unhealthy/disabled person.

http://i.imgur.com/7YDRIdT.png

Kaido
05-29-2015, 10:00 PM
Can't complain.


http://i.imgur.com/OTxhVhj.png

MonkeyDLuffy
05-31-2015, 04:30 AM
Damn After seeing your results I feel like an obese dude who has cheetos stuck in his neckbeard.

fil
06-04-2015, 04:02 AM
Motivation
50
Power
76
Anaerobic Capacity
58
Endurance
54
Metabolic Efficiency
78
Recovery
79
Injury Protection
79

ashwinb
06-09-2015, 09:13 AM
Motivation
73
Power
81
Anaerobic Capacity
55
Endurance
36
Metabolic Efficiency
90
Recovery
78
Injury Protection
39

Gray Fox
06-20-2015, 09:12 AM
Motivation
74
Power
84
Anaerobic Capacity
62
Endurance
51
Metabolic Efficiency
91
Recovery
84
Injury Protection
80

Sapporo
07-21-2015, 02:43 AM
Motivation: 48 (19th Percentile)
Power: 67 (35th Percentile)
Anaerobic: 59 (58th Percentile)
Endurance: 64 (92th Percentile)
Metabolism: 79 (43rd Percentile)
Recovery: 40 (6th Percentile)
Injury: 21 (1st Percentile)

You would think I'd be dead by now in my almost mid 20's with these scores. Also, being around 18% bodyfat (out of shape) and in pretty good shape most of my life, these scores are depressing. :biggrin1:

bored
07-23-2015, 02:05 AM
Seems BS but that might be because I have disastrous results.

Motivation
48
Power
54
Anaerobic Capacity
51
Endurance
45
Metabolic Efficiency
77
Recovery
73
Injury Protection
36

bored
07-23-2015, 02:10 AM
My results doesnt go with my life style at all. I am tall and athletic (12% body fat/muscular), been active in sports and activities, but according to the scores I should be a really unhealthy/disabled person.

http://i.imgur.com/7YDRIdT.png

Not that dissimilar to me. Maybe Indians just get bad scores?

tamilgangster
07-23-2015, 02:35 AM
I've heard the term used when a teenager is good at a particular sport, and one or both of his/her parents were elite athletes. Therefore people assume if two elite athletes have a child then that child will also be genetically "well off" in sport. I haven't found any studies to prove that though. However if you looked at your markers on Athletigen for example, and compared your data to a parent and they shared similar genotypes at the same markers, I assume it may be hereditary.

Its more likely due to being born in an athletic environment, being exposed to the best coaches, equipmeant, parental motivation, parents feed children diet well suited for sports. Way too many fctors influence athleticism to be solely based on genetics.

MonkeyDLuffy
07-23-2015, 07:35 AM
Not that dissimilar to me. Maybe Indians just get bad scores?

Too aryan for their calculators to handle.

DMXX
07-23-2015, 05:20 PM
My results. I used to compete in several sports. Largely accurate (including the poor injury protection score). I've always been a "good" all-rounder.

http://i.imgur.com/1ZzPGWe.png

The biggest disconnect between genotype and phenotype is the "motivation" score. For years, I've regularly woken up at 4-5am to train. I've also trained in prolonged fasts multiple times (currently eight days into my new intermittent fasting regime). There were points where I'd train three times per day for 4-5 consecutive days, or trained for up to 3.5 hours in a single go. I'm often times too motivated to train, not vice versa.

If the genotype scores actually are true for this, I anticipate environment (nurture) has completely negated my apparent predisposition towards being a lazy guy. My father was a sportsman and compelled us to compete as children. One of my martial arts instructors was also tough on us. Suppose I've embodied the lessons for those, for life.


Too aryan for their calculators to handle.

The algorithm depreciates Indo-Aryan scores by a factor of ten, so you guys are 540-670% Power for example.

Good thing these guys haven't tried charting the genetic component of "Honour", otherwise we'd be hitting over 9000. ;)

Sangarius
07-23-2015, 05:32 PM
Motivation: 74 (85th percentile)
Power: 84 (85th percentile)
Anaerobic: 62 (74th percentile)
Endurance: 54 (64th percentile)
Metabolism: 87 (73rd percentile)
Recovery: 80 (56th percentile)
Injury: 76 (72nd percentile)

MfA
07-23-2015, 06:02 PM
Not sure how I managed to survive until now :\

Motivation: 57 (49th percentile)
Power: 45 (5th percentile) :wacko:
Anaerobic: 49 (14th percentile)
Endurance: 38 (10th percentile)
Metabolism: 71 (11th percentile)
Recovery: 34 (1st percentile) :wacko:
Injury: 80 (83rd percentile)

cool charts
http://abload.de/img/athlethigen_mfa_24ypqq.png

http://abload.de/img/athlethigen_mfa_1hiqte.png

DMXX
07-23-2015, 06:16 PM
Not sure how I managed to survive until now :\


I wouldn't worry much, if you happen to be unnerved by the results. Sports performance is a complex trait controlled by both nature (genetics) and nurture (a myriad of influences) plus co-relating factors (e.g. epigenetics).

If it's within your interest or means, there's nothing stopping you from becoming a great regional power (Olympic lifting, powerlifting) or endurance (swimming, triathalon) athlete with proper planning, nutrition, sleep, sacrifice and determination. Your genes definitely aren't working completely against you here.

Muscle fibre distribution alters as an adaptive response to "correct" training stimuli, for starters. I imagine some of the more distinguished competitive cyclists or triathalon athletes for example will be surprised to find they were genetically "power" oriented, but thrive otherwise.

We're able to explain the heritability of sports performance better than height at present (over 50% (http://web.stanford.edu/class/gene210/files/projects/Gene210-AthleticsPresentation-Roos.pdf), which is much better than other complex traits), but it's still far from perfect.

These sorts of tests will only really useful for people vying to become elite athletes anyway.

Agamemnon
07-23-2015, 07:17 PM
Motivation
49
Power
81
Anaerobic Capacity
54
Endurance
45
Metabolic Efficiency
67
Recovery
76
Injury Protection
61

Humanist
07-23-2015, 07:34 PM
Motivation
51
Power
92
Anaerobic Capacity
70
Endurance
40
Metabolic Efficiency
79
Recovery
88
Injury Protection
44

ZephyrousMandaru
07-23-2015, 08:05 PM
69% Motivation

40% Power

55% Anaerobic Capacity

57% Endurance

65% Metabolic Efficiency

70% Recovery

58% Injury Protection

jesus
07-23-2015, 08:44 PM
Motivation Performance 52 (47th)

Power Performance 69 (37th)

Anaerobic Capacity Performance 78 (97th)

Endurance Performance 65 (93rd)

Metabolic Efficiency Performance 93 (92nd)

Recovery Performance 89 (97th)

Injury Protection Performance 80 (84th)


Injury protection, energy recovering and metabolic efficiency are pretty accurate in my case. We used to play soccer, sometimes barefooted in a dirt field with a basketball(:biggrin1: !) and I would rarely get injured, despite the usual violent tackles. Also, I've never broken a bone in my life.

MfA
07-23-2015, 09:36 PM
Update

http://abload.de/img/athletigen_mfa_2v2r08.png

http://abload.de/img/athletigen_mfa_187oyh.png

Ashina
07-24-2015, 03:04 AM
My results
77% Recovery (35)
60% Motivation (53)
75% Metabolic Efficiency (18)
40% Endurance (14)
80% Power (63)
54% Anaerobic Capacity (28)
42% Injury Protection (21)

Grandpa
75% Recovery (25)
92% Motivation (94)
73% Metabolic Efficiency (12)
47% Endurance (36)
65% Power (30)
57% Anaerobic Capacity (44)
27% Injury Protection (3)

Grandma
85% Recovery (89)
51% Motivation (37)
81% Metabolic Efficiency (58)
52% Endurance (59)
71% Power (41)
72% Anaerobic Capacity (91)
79% Injury Protection (81)

Ashina
07-24-2015, 04:56 AM
Damn After seeing your results I feel like an obese dude who has cheetos stuck in his neckbeard.

lol well if it makes you feel better, my grandma got the best scores of all of us (relatives) yet she is by far the least fit family member. My grandpa got lower scores, is in his 80's but still as strong as a rock. He can easily walk up a mountain and he still uses his bike to get everywhere, whereas grandma can hardly walk up the stairs.

Agamemnon
07-24-2015, 11:31 AM
^^ Too bad my paternal grandpa isn't alive anymore (I keep a picture of him on me at all times), he was pretty tough too - survived WW2, including german POW camps, had a pretty tiring job afterwards - so I'm kinda curious as to the kind of results he'd get.

MonkeyDLuffy
07-24-2015, 01:40 PM
lol well if it makes you feel better, my grandma got the best scores of all of us (relatives) yet she is by far the least fit family member. My grandpa got lower scores, is in his 80's but still as strong as a rock. He can easily walk up a mountain and he still uses his bike to get everywhere, whereas grandma can hardly walk up the stairs.

Too late, I've already signed up for robot armor, aint leaving my house without full protection. Cause nothing makes you feel better than a 2 ton of pure freedom.

DMXX
07-24-2015, 03:32 PM
Too late, I've already signed up for robot armor ...

Talk about taking "Full Metal Jacket" literally. :P

bol_nat
07-29-2015, 04:15 AM
Motivation: 62 (57th percentile)
Power: 93 (96th percentile)
Anaerobic: 59 (55th percentile)
Endurance: 49 (44th percentile)
Metabolism: 78 (36rd percentile)
Recovery: 78 (40th percentile)
Injury: 71 (54nd percentile)

shazou
07-29-2015, 07:54 AM
http://i.imgur.com/yhV1oE9.jpg

Ardell
10-19-2015, 02:10 AM
Motivation - 73
Power - 59
Anaerobic - 60
Endurance - 55
Metabolism - 91
Recovery - 81
Injury Protection - 39

evon
10-19-2015, 10:18 PM
Motivation - 72 4/5 72% I am as stubborn as they come, I also jog/hike every other day.
Power - 66 3/5 32% Not too strong, but I am pencil pusher so..
Anaerobic - 58 3/5 50% Average I guess.
Endurance - 48 1/5 41% I would say this is wrong, I can literary walk for days without having much problems etc..
Metabolism - 82 4/5 67% I am normal I would say..
Recovery - 77 3/5 34% Well, guess this is good :p
Injury - 61 2/5 36% Have been hit by a car, fallen from trees onto rocks etc, but the only "bone" I have ever broken is my skull.

AJL
10-19-2015, 11:49 PM
Motivation - 50%
Power - 56%
Anaerobic - 59%
Endurance - 60%
Metabolism - 80%
Recovery - 81%
Injury - 56%

As you may guess from the profile: Happiest when scarfing down lots of food and then burning it off by performing insanely long exercise bike workouts and watching half a season of something on Netflix to distract from the passing hours, supplemented with a little free weights.

Best yet is a nice cross-country bike or kayak/canoe ride, but the season near me is way too short for these, so cross-country skiing or snowshoeing in the winter.

MacUalraig
12-04-2015, 01:49 PM
The site now claims it can handle AncestryDNA files but it doesn't seem to like mine in either zip or unzipped format (it doesn't specify which or whether it can handler either). Anyone tried this?

BalkanKiwi
12-07-2015, 10:11 PM
I should mention they've gone and updated how the information is displayed. It's a lot more user friendly.