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Earl Davis
05-27-2015, 07:42 PM
Late last year I remember some excitement about PF6714 after it was included on the tree at the ht35 project. This SNP was at the time listed as a brother of P311 and enabled P311 to be separated out from the L11, L52, L151, P310, YSC82, YSC191 block by being the youngest of that block.

Looking at the ht35 project more recently PF6714 no longer seems to be listed on the tree and P311 has been 'relegated' back to being just 1 of the 7 unordered snips in the L11 block.

Was there an issue with PF6714 that necessitated it's removal or is it's position now less certain?

See the current tree at ht35 for more info...

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ht-3-5new/about/goals

Earl.

Joe B
05-30-2015, 10:51 PM
Late last year I remember some excitement about PF6714 after it was included on the tree at the ht35 project. This SNP was at the time listed as a brother of P311 and enabled P311 to be separated out from the L11, L52, L151, P310, YSC82, YSC191 block by being the youngest of that block.

Looking at the ht35 project more recently PF6714 no longer seems to be listed on the tree and P311 has been 'relegated' back to being just 1 of the 7 unordered snips in the L11 block.

Was there an issue with PF6714 that necessitated it's removal or is it's position now less certain?

See the current tree at ht35 for more info...

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ht-3-5new/about/goals

Earl.It doesn't look like we have have examples of R1b-PF6714* as of yet. Same goes for L11 and the rest of those SNPs.
The project descendancy cladogram (https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ht-3-5new/about/goals) is limited to SNPs that are available from FTDNA and is used for phylogenetic bracketing SNP by SNP. The project phylogenetic tree (https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ht-3-5new/about/results) is much more comprehensive. Download the PDF for a better view.