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BalkanKiwi
07-15-2015, 10:13 PM
I feel pretty screwed over with regards to my paternal haplogroup.

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GoldenHind
07-16-2015, 05:46 PM
Inexplicably Geno 2 does not test for R1b-P312, which is probably the largest haplogroup in western Europe. It does include most, but not all, of the P312 subclades. P312 subclades DF27 and DF99 are not tested in Geno 2. Thus you fall into one of the following categories:

R1b-P312>DF27, R1b-P312>DF99, R1b-P312*, R1b-DF100, R1b-P310*.

So while Geno 2 is not a complete waste of money, it does not resolve the haplogroup status for those who fall into the above classifications. Have you tested any markers with FTDNA? If so, I may be able to suggest which of the above is most likely.

Incidentally I also got a R-P310 result from Geno 2.

vettor
07-16-2015, 06:56 PM
Inexplicably Geno 2 does not test for R1b-P312, which is probably the largest haplogroup in western Europe. It does include most, but not all, of the P312 subclades. P312 subclades DF27 and DF99 are not tested in Geno 2. Thus you fall into one of the following categories:

R1b-P312>DF27, R1b-P312>DF99, R1b-P312*, R1b-DF100, R1b-P310*.

So while Geno 2 is not a complete waste of money, it does not resolve the haplogroup status for those who fall into the above classifications. Have you tested any markers with FTDNA? If so, I may be able to suggest which of the above is most likely.

Incidentally I also got a R-P310 result from Geno 2.

wait until October 2015 when the new Geno tests go from 150K Snp's ( now ) ..............to 750K Snp's

ArmandoR1b
07-16-2015, 09:03 PM
wait until October 2015 when the new Geno tests go from 150K Snp's ( now ) ..............to 750K Snp's

It would be cheaper and faster for him to test with Yseq.

BalkanKiwi
07-16-2015, 09:39 PM
Inexplicably Geno 2 does not test for R1b-P312, which is probably the largest haplogroup in western Europe. It does include most, but not all, of the P312 subclades. P312 subclades DF27 and DF99 are not tested in Geno 2. Thus you fall into one of the following categories:

R1b-P312>DF27, R1b-P312>DF99, R1b-P312*, R1b-DF100, R1b-P310*.

So while Geno 2 is not a complete waste of money, it does not resolve the haplogroup status for those who fall into the above classifications. Have you tested any markers with FTDNA? If so, I may be able to suggest which of the above is most likely.

Incidentally I also got a R-P310 result from Geno 2.

I've done some reading up on that and now know that's the case. I've previously tested negative for both U106 and L21 (FTDNA prediction which I tested). I've transferred my results over to FTDNA where I'm apparently also negative for DF19 and U152.

The only branches I have available for testing (besides P311) are P312>L238, P312>DF99 and P312>DF27.

I've only tested 37 markers so far (due to the terrible exchange rate I'll do the 67 marker test in the future).

http://i.imgur.com/qqQPF82.png


It would be cheaper and faster for him to test with Yseq.

That's my plan. A question regarding Yseq. If I'm purchasing SNP tests for the first time, do I need to purchase the DNA Extraction also or just a sample kit?

ArmandoR1b
07-16-2015, 09:47 PM
That's my plan. A question regarding Yseq. If I'm purchasing SNP tests for the first time, do I need to purchase the DNA Extraction also or just a sample kit?

Just the sample kit and the SNPs you want tested.

paulgill
07-16-2015, 10:19 PM
I've done some reading up on that and now know that's the case. I've previously tested negative for both U106 and L21 (FTDNA prediction which I tested). I've transferred my results over to FTDNA where I'm apparently also negative for DF19 and U152.

The only branches I have available for testing (besides P311) are P312>L238, P312>DF99 and P312>DF27.

I've only tested 37 markers so far (due to the terrible exchange rate I'll do the 67 marker test in the future).

http://i.imgur.com/qqQPF82.png

That's my plan. A question regarding Yseq. If I'm purchasing SNP tests for the first time, do I need to purchase the DNA Extraction also or just a sample kit?

One SNP $17.50, Kit included in the price. Kit alone $3.00 and test can be ordered later, price includes S+H.

lgmayka
07-16-2015, 10:29 PM
One SNP $17.50, Kit included in the price. Kit alone $3.00 and test can be ordered later, price includes S+H.
I think that the first order from Yseq has a $5 shipping charge, unless the order is for more than $100 (in which case the shipping charge is waived).

BalkanKiwi
07-16-2015, 10:52 PM
So just to clarify, If I order two SNPs for example, that price also includes a kit which is sent out? Correct, there is a $5 shipping charge.

GoldenHind
07-16-2015, 11:54 PM
I've done some reading up on that and now know that's the case. I've previously tested negative for both U106 and L21 (FTDNA prediction which I tested). I've transferred my results over to FTDNA where I'm apparently also negative for DF19 and U152.

The only branches I have available for testing (besides P311) are P312>L238, P312>DF99 and P312>DF27.

I've only tested 37 markers so far (due to the terrible exchange rate I'll do the 67 marker test in the future).

http://i.imgur.com/qqQPF82.png



That's my plan. A question regarding Yseq. If I'm purchasing SNP tests for the first time, do I need to purchase the DNA Extraction also or just a sample kit?

In most cases it is extremely difficult to predict P312 subclades from STR markers, especially from only 37 markers. However your markers indicate you are almost certainly L238- and unlikely, though it's not impossible, to be DF99+. I think it is highly probable that you are DF27+. If I were you, I would order an a la carte test for DF27 from FTDNA. I believe the cost is $49. If you get a negative result for that, YSEQ is probably the way to go.

lgmayka
07-16-2015, 11:59 PM
So just to clarify, If I order two SNPs for example, that price also includes a kit which is sent out? Correct, there is a $5 shipping charge.
Or one can simply say that the $5 shipping charge includes the kit. If you later order another SNP, the price will be a simple $17.50 because you will not need another kit or shipment.

BalkanKiwi
07-17-2015, 12:10 AM
In most cases it is extremely difficult to predict P312 subclades from STR markers, especially from only 37 markers. However your markers indicate you are almost certainly L238- and unlikely, though it's not impossible, to be DF99+. I think it is highly probable that you are DF27+. If I were you, I would order an a la carte test for DF27 from FTDNA. I believe the cost is $49. If you get a negative result for that, YSEQ is probably the way to go.

Because the exchange rate is bad at the moment for AUD to USD, its actually cheaper for me to buy SNP tests for both DF99 and DF27 from YSEQ than it is just for DF27 from FTDNA, which is what I've gone and done. What is the shipping time like from YSEQ? Along with their sample processing time.

paulgill
07-17-2015, 12:16 AM
I think that the first order from Yseq has a $5 shipping charge, unless the order is for more than $100 (in which case the shipping charge is waived).

Yes, you are right.

BalkanKiwi
07-17-2015, 01:16 AM
My kit has already been shipped. Quite efficient.

ArmandoR1b
07-17-2015, 02:18 AM
In most cases it is extremely difficult to predict P312 subclades from STR markers, especially from only 37 markers. However your markers indicate you are almost certainly L238- and unlikely, though it's not impossible, to be DF99+. I think it is highly probable that you are DF27+. If I were you, I would order an a la carte test for DF27 from FTDNA. I believe the cost is $49. If you get a negative result for that, YSEQ is probably the way to go.

Or he can get the DF27 at Yseq and then, if positive for DF27, the Yseq DF27panel and then once he gets his DF27panel results order the most downstream SNP at FTDNA so that it shows on his FTDNA page.

GoldenHind
07-17-2015, 05:15 PM
Because the exchange rate is bad at the moment for AUD to USD, its actually cheaper for me to buy SNP tests for both DF99 and DF27 from YSEQ than it is just for DF27 from FTDNA, which is what I've gone and done. What is the shipping time like from YSEQ? Along with their sample processing time.

In the unlikely event you test DF99+, please let me know.

BalkanKiwi
08-18-2015, 07:59 PM
In the unlikely event you test DF99+, please let me know.

I got my DF99 panel back. I'm not great at interpreting these but I look negative. Waiting on DF27.


2498 DF99 ChrY 8829491 8829491 C-
2498 S11987 ChrY 8829491 8829491 C-
2498 S11988 ChrY 8829501 8829501 A-
2498 Z6001 ChrY 8829491 8829491 C-